**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 30 02:59:58 2016 Sep 30 03:37:29 wow... still no capeall Sep 30 03:37:33 *capella Sep 30 03:56:36 anyone try creating, reading, and write sqlite3 files to SAF Sep 30 03:59:28 SAF? Sep 30 04:02:34 Some Android Format Sep 30 04:03:21 Never heard of it Sep 30 04:06:37 Storage Access Framework in Kitkat Sep 30 04:06:50 lol i guess nobody uses it :P Sep 30 04:07:46 i want the documents to be sqlite3 files, which can then be opened with R or some other software. Sep 30 04:08:33 my app would create them, and possibly append more data to any sqlite3 file on SAF if necessary Sep 30 04:09:01 i guess its just a matter of getting the file descriptor, reading all the the data, saving it to a local file and then opening that Sep 30 04:43:09 http://search.maven.org/#search%7Cga%7C1%7Cg%3A%22com.android.tools.build%22 Sep 30 04:43:11 oh come on Sep 30 04:43:17 2.2.0 for everything, except gradle... Sep 30 04:43:37 who the hell is running this operation... Sep 30 04:44:33 the same ones who aren't documenting it ... Sep 30 04:44:55 or forgetting the release notes Sep 30 04:45:25 it's really lame that they decided to go with jcenter... Sep 30 05:01:08 mornin' Sep 30 05:01:47 hey alex_PP Sep 30 05:02:03 what's going on in here today? Sep 30 05:02:23 G-Suite Sep 30 05:02:32 sounds so dirty Sep 30 05:03:20 sounds like 50 cent's sofa Sep 30 05:07:46 anyone used sqldelite? Sep 30 05:07:52 just about to try it out Sep 30 05:07:54 looks interesting Sep 30 05:10:46 i just do straight sql Sep 30 05:11:19 been playing around with cqrs, read and write models are different Sep 30 05:12:31 I do too, but getting bored of it Sep 30 05:13:07 yeah Sep 30 05:14:36 looks quite a bit different then when i last looked at it ... Sep 30 05:15:16 I like the idea of writing CREATEs and SELECTs and just haveing a magic java interface to it all Sep 30 05:15:36 witchcraft! Sep 30 05:19:24 I've given up trying to find a object relational mapper that doesn't blow Sep 30 05:19:43 write your own Sep 30 05:20:41 ha Sep 30 05:20:59 pretty much everyone has tried, and failed Sep 30 05:21:09 (I have previously) Sep 30 05:21:38 it's not the implementation that's the problem, its the concept Sep 30 05:31:18 If I didn't use Realm for my apps I would definitely be using sqlbrite Sep 30 05:31:42 We use it in one of our production apps for my company (one that I didn't write) Sep 30 05:31:55 cool Sep 30 05:32:19 I'll be trying it once AS has updated over the world's slowest internet connection Sep 30 05:32:35 I don't know how different sqldelight is from sqlbrite Sep 30 05:32:45 But you should look at sqlbrite if you have a chance Sep 30 05:33:27 oh, whoops Sep 30 05:33:39 Oh apparently you can use them together Sep 30 05:34:02 sqldelite is SQL to java models, bright is sql & rx stuff Sep 30 05:35:28 Are you writing an app from scratch or just updating existing database code? If you are writing from scratch, Realm is pretty amazing and v2.0 just came out a few days ago Sep 30 05:35:42 better than any ORM (but I'm biased) Sep 30 05:35:44 I'm not a fan of realm Sep 30 05:36:02 (but I forget why, looked at so many storage solutions) Sep 30 05:36:29 oh i got sqldelight and sqlbright confused, thought they were the same thing Sep 30 05:36:30 existing app, but the DB needs a major overhaul Sep 30 05:39:15 the app grew from a simple standalone widget to a fairly complex syncing one Sep 30 05:39:27 there's issues with the data model as a result Sep 30 05:39:53 migrating data is the worst ... Sep 30 05:41:23 data's all synced, so local copy's going in the bin:D Sep 30 05:41:26 TIL "google" is a TLD: https://blog.google/ Sep 30 05:47:51 wow Sep 30 05:50:33 wow, there's loads https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Brand_top-level_domains Sep 30 05:54:42 Wow, this is awful UX: https://commonsware.com/blog/2016/09/28/split-screen-not-all-homes-are-created-equal.html Sep 30 05:54:47 they really should make google.google redirect to google Sep 30 05:54:51 instead of being nothing Sep 30 05:55:01 Even as an Android programmer, I didn't notice the status-bar thing at first. Sep 30 05:56:35 " Sep 30 05:56:35 For the video players, games, and other apps that use android:keepScreenOn or setKeepScreenOn() to hold a full wakelock while they are visible… well, that wakelock stays in force, and the device continues draining the battery. Sep 30 05:56:35 This is bad." Sep 30 05:56:44 can't wait for all of the nougat battery complaint threads Sep 30 05:59:09 As far as I can tell, in order to make onStop happen, you have to bring the activity back on screen somehow (e.g., tapping the launcher icon again), tap inside the app somewhere, and then press Back. Sep 30 06:01:13 I don't understand this retarded new feature. It'll only make our jobs harder and the user won't really get much enjoyment out of it. Sep 30 06:01:17 Good luck to the general public out there. They're gonna need it. Sep 30 06:01:28 Even as a computer nerd I'm struggling to figure it out. Sep 30 06:02:01 Idiosyncratic: Yeah, it's about as bad as it gets, UX-wise. Sep 30 06:05:20 i'm trying to cross-compile a kernel for samsung galaxy on5, and am following some guides, it's been about 10 years since I cross-compiled something and written a makefile etc, but the error is not coming up on google, mintsqueaks@mintsqueaks-desktop ~/on5/kernel $ make ARCH=arm Sep 30 06:05:54 test Sep 30 06:06:02 it is more suitable for #android-root Sep 30 06:06:09 thank you Sep 30 06:07:26 Unless you're a video player it doesn't sound like it'll make your job any harder Sep 30 06:12:50 Idiosyncratic: hi. Morning. Sep 30 06:12:59 Melatonina: hey Sep 30 06:14:35 SimonVT: it seems to me that we'll have to code more for the new behavior that this feature brings Sep 30 06:15:00 Like? Sep 30 06:16:07 It's just a screen size change Sep 30 06:16:59 And depending on screen size, maybe an orientation change as well Sep 30 06:17:11 Nothing you're not already handling today Sep 30 06:18:31 SimonVT: yeah, but you're not coding for half of the size the screen that multiwindow gives right now Sep 30 06:20:41 It's just the difference between your list displaying 5 or 10 items Sep 30 06:21:01 Most wont have to do anything Sep 30 06:21:36 Same as if you switch to landscape. Less vertical space there as well Sep 30 06:22:37 SimonVT: As far as I can see, it makes the user's life quite difficult. Sep 30 06:22:53 Getting onStop to happen in this scenario isn't very simple. Sep 30 06:23:22 Not only do you have to get the app back on screen, but you also have to focus it by tapping *and* click Back. Sep 30 06:23:32 Sure Sep 30 06:23:58 But as I said, most don't need to worry about that Sep 30 06:28:04 I agree that most developers don't have to worry about this. I hope they fix the UX here, though, because a lot of users will have problems with this. Sep 30 06:28:45 They'll be calling relatives saying "I can't get this damn video to stop playing!" Sep 30 06:29:09 Or maybe they'll just switch off the device. Sep 30 06:29:40 SimonVT: I manually handle orientation and size changes in my app because of reasons. What do you think will happen when I don't actually hand the size? Sep 30 06:29:46 SimonVT: and I'm not the first one to do this Sep 30 06:29:49 *the only one Sep 30 06:31:21 Uh.. same thing that happened before multi window I guess? Sep 30 06:31:55 Oh yeah... wait Sep 30 06:32:01 I do handle the size :D Sep 30 06:32:09 Sep 30 06:34:05 Don't think I'll be using multi window tho.. at least not on my phone Sep 30 06:34:36 I'll use it to keep YouTube videos playing while switching to WhatsApp or something. Sep 30 06:34:52 Not much other than that, probably. Sep 30 06:35:11 Only time I've needed it was when using YouTube for music Sep 30 06:35:19 Instead I bought Spotify Sep 30 06:35:37 Idiosyncratic: My app disables activity recreation for all activities (so far). I just do nothing when the screen rotates or whatever. Sep 30 06:35:54 Though I have this luxury because I use the same resources for any size/orientation. Sep 30 06:36:38 (Of course, I still need to worry about saving state for background-process kills and other configuration changes. I just do this because I think the UX is better.) Sep 30 06:42:05 By "other configuration changes" I mean "configuration changes other than 'orientation', 'screenSize' etc.". Stuff like plugging a hardware keyboard in. Not sure whether to care about that. Sep 30 06:42:36 Hello..:) Sep 30 06:43:33 Can I record all gestures using overlay and pass it to the application Sep 30 06:43:36 ..? Sep 30 06:44:36 Till now I have been able to create overlay .. but it consumes the touch event and thus app does not gets the event Sep 30 06:45:32 How can I achieve the goal...? Sep 30 06:51:40 i know you can in javascript... not to sure about java... Sep 30 06:53:05 in javascript you just have to either do it through a libray or an api call. eg like adding a digtal joystick for controls of something, you actually giving the touch event to the app then the app is telling what your doing with it and where and then reacts Sep 30 06:53:33 abhishekcs10_: ^ i dont know if that helps Sep 30 06:57:42 I need to implement it in android Sep 30 06:58:53 jamie_1: any suggestions referencing to Android overlay Sep 30 06:59:13 abhishekcs10_: you mean an overlay you can interact with while in system? Sep 30 06:59:24 Yes Sep 30 07:00:10 But that overlay spans over complete screen and is made invisible to capture any gesture occuring on screen Sep 30 07:00:55 When I do this any other thing on screen does not respond to touch events Sep 30 07:01:04 abhishekcs10_: the best way to do it i would say is use a window, the only issue you will have though with not just having an object is the fact that its going to take the gesture, so you have to find a way to give it back to the device Sep 30 07:01:29 which will require root access because then you are accessing system level Sep 30 07:02:14 Any other workaround..?? Sep 30 07:02:28 no Sep 30 07:02:47 when you have an app accessing system directly you have to have root access Sep 30 07:02:54 abhishekcs10_, why do you want to do that? Sep 30 07:02:57 it's a huge security issue Sep 30 07:03:14 adq: thats what im saying... well kinda... when things are locked there is a reason Sep 30 07:03:25 inside your own app, you can do it though Sep 30 07:03:37 i mean you can do it easily* Sep 30 07:03:50 Yes in app I can do Sep 30 07:07:37 adq: the issue is he wants to hand the gesture back to the device Sep 30 07:07:52 thx despite i understood his problem Sep 30 07:08:09 i still don't know why Sep 30 07:11:54 adq: ok..I am working on a mood detection project and what it requires is to get only the gestures that user makes while typing through keyboard...as Google has restricted to access gestures on its soft keyboard due to privacy concerns , I tried to record gesture coordinates through overlay. I need them as a feature for my project Sep 30 07:12:37 it's a huge security issue Sep 30 07:12:49 why not making yourself a keyboard which track your touch? Sep 30 07:13:04 that sounds more (technically) possible to achieve Sep 30 07:13:30 abhishekcs10_: If you can see their keyboard input, you can see their passwords and so on. Sep 30 07:13:35 Like they're saying, it's a non-starter. Sep 30 07:14:56 Yes I am making an ime but was looking for other workaround Sep 30 07:18:18 curious as how you detect mood only based on gesture detection (assuming you don't detect letters input, words, etc) Sep 30 07:18:54 Through pressure and speed with which user swipes Sep 30 07:19:06 I can imagine the obvious use of tracking some sensors on the contrary to increase the probability of mood though Sep 30 07:19:34 interesting abhishekcs10_ Sep 30 07:19:56 How do you determine pressure? Aren't they using capacitive screens? Sep 30 07:21:07 recent devices can give you some info about the pressure iirc, idk the granularity or how many states there are Sep 30 07:22:15 you can detect partialy based on speed and area of pressure Sep 30 07:44:04 FYI I'm Newbie , Which is the best to use plugin for MVVM ? Robo Binding or the android default binding ? Sep 30 07:50:51 didnt touch either of them Sep 30 08:07:52 hello ? Sep 30 08:08:46 imZEH: didnt touch either of them Sep 30 08:09:00 there's presentation about it on youtube Sep 30 08:09:21 gordon_: so mostly here use the old traditional thing ? Sep 30 08:10:42 I'm referring to this findViewById(R.id.my_button); Sep 30 08:12:15 there's also butterknife Sep 30 08:12:28 or TypedResourse for scala Sep 30 08:12:36 or android kotlin extensions for kotlin Sep 30 08:18:43 ok thanks gordon_ Sep 30 08:21:50 can somebody give an explanation of this? http://pastebin.com/7sYkXTvX Sep 30 08:23:12 the list is empty Sep 30 08:23:22 try adding an element then clear again Sep 30 08:23:36 it's a NullPointerException Sep 30 08:24:18 move your this.spinnerItems.clear(); inside a method Sep 30 08:24:21 no wonder Sep 30 08:24:31 you cannot call it if not static Sep 30 08:24:40 of course it's in a method.. just basic copy Sep 30 08:24:45 the object has not yet been instantiated, but your IDE should warn you at least Sep 30 08:24:53 then you are hidding things to us Sep 30 08:24:56 good luck Sep 30 08:25:03 post more code Sep 30 08:25:23 http://pastebin.com/ADQSqhzy Sep 30 08:26:22 i don't even see the same thing now Sep 30 08:27:00 but anyway, in any case, if you have the issue above that means you spinnerItems has not been instantiated or if it has been someone nullified it Sep 30 08:27:14 well its final so its unlikely Sep 30 08:27:35 adq: it's final initialized so it can't be null.. Sep 30 08:28:03 then maybe it's not the same object Sep 30 08:29:08 the property is private, I access it with this.spinnerItems how can it be not the same object? Sep 30 08:29:27 FrancescoV: show full code Sep 30 08:29:33 ah you did Sep 30 08:30:17 he did not, the two pastebin does not even share same stuff Sep 30 08:30:19 FrancescoV: where is that NP ? Sep 30 08:30:41 there is no possible mystery with these kinds of issue anyway Sep 30 08:31:17 gordon_: npe on this.spinnerItems.clear(); Sep 30 08:32:19 http://pastebin.com/pMs5ZZXP Sep 30 08:32:28 sorry, 2nd post is a subclass copy Sep 30 08:33:14 adq: full code on 3rd pastbin Sep 30 08:33:27 are you sure the npe is in this exact line Sep 30 08:35:06 Ashiren, yes Sep 30 08:35:07 https://postimg.org/image/ry05hl45x/ Sep 30 08:36:58 any advice? Sep 30 08:37:11 looking at it now, and indeed this should not happen Sep 30 08:37:30 Instantiate the List in your constructor before you call methods on it Sep 30 08:37:40 so come to my mind 2 things, did you try to clean your project (in rare cases it's needed), and did you try to disabled instant-run if enable Sep 30 08:38:25 yeah it's better to instantiate in constructor, but shouldn't it not crash even if instantiated in members/attributes of the class? Sep 30 08:38:36 adq, already clean project + invalidate caches / restart of AS Sep 30 08:39:04 SimonVT: I'll try it out, but this NPE should never happen (i hope so..) Sep 30 08:39:07 i mean there is no way to call the method if the object has not been instantiated Sep 30 08:39:16 Final fields are initialized after the constructor for some reason Sep 30 08:39:29 wow ok, did not even know that Sep 30 08:39:42 No one does, it's not very intuitive Sep 30 08:39:54 still after object is constructed they should be instantianed if he uses methods Sep 30 08:40:21 Looks like he's using it in the constructor, not after Sep 30 08:40:30 race condition almost Sep 30 08:41:28 SimonVT: I'm not using it in the constructor.. no clue how I could do that anyway if you don't do it in the class itself.. Sep 30 08:42:22 sorry, take my words back, it could be accessed in constructor in a subclass Sep 30 08:42:50 The init methods looks like something you would call in a constructor Sep 30 08:43:27 That's what I do anyway Sep 30 08:43:34 ahh right Sep 30 08:43:38 so super calls init() Sep 30 08:43:52 but the subclass init() isnt fully initialized Sep 30 08:44:27 i remember i had some troubles with that too Sep 30 08:44:47 In the super's super, rather. So the super classes constructor isn't even done yet Sep 30 08:45:47 Which could lead to other issues down the road, you probably want each class to define their own init methods if you think you'll ever depend on the super class being done setting up Sep 30 08:46:58 the init method is protected, so you can call super.init() first before doing other things in subclasess. Isn't that a good way? Sep 30 08:48:08 Personally I'm not a fan. You probably don't guard against implementers not calling super either Sep 30 08:48:15 Subtle bugs :) Sep 30 08:49:02 how would you do it? make init() private and call another method inside init() which is protected? Sep 30 08:50:43 Now that I think about it, initializing the List in CCVSpinnerFormFieldView's constructor wont work, since the init method is called before that's complete Sep 30 08:51:03 I would just let each class decide if they want to do their setup in the constructor, or call through to a private init method Sep 30 08:52:32 (actually, not sure if final fields are initialized immediately after super or at the end of the constructor.. But either way, make sure things happen in the right order) Sep 30 08:52:37 but if you have code which must be done like Butterknife setup, that's something I don't want to do in each subclass Sep 30 08:54:00 SimonVT, thanks for the info. I didn't know final properties which are initialized directly could be null Sep 30 08:57:27 Re. ButterKnife, you can use lifecycle methods depending on how you use the View. E.g. onFinishInflate if it's only used in XML Sep 30 08:59:03 Null check in onAttachedToWindow Sep 30 08:59:09 Stuff like that Sep 30 09:11:10 how to check if the Android App running in Chromebook or Android Device? Sep 30 09:16:58 hi all does anyone know why Im getting Caused by: java.lang.NumberFormatException: Invalid long: "pets". here is full stacktrace http://pastebin.com/ejJt9bCC Sep 30 09:17:39 Becayse "pets" is not a long Sep 30 09:19:32 ah hi SimonVT are you the creator of Schematic? https://github.com/SimonVT/schematic Sep 30 09:19:36 thanks for the reply btw Sep 30 09:19:58 Yep :) Sep 30 09:22:03 wow awesome thatnks for that I use your library all the time. i have one question though in the Android Manifest how comes I always get an unresolved error on this line: but the code works fine Sep 30 09:22:31 it seems like AS cannot fine that path Sep 30 09:24:06 Authorities is just a string, shouldn't complain about that line Sep 30 09:24:21 Maybe name points to a class that doesn't exist? Sep 30 09:24:44 ah sorry Sep 30 09:24:45 wrong line Sep 30 09:24:50 it complains on this line: android:name="net.simonvt.schematic.sample.provider.NotesProvider" Sep 30 09:25:27 Yes, that's your contentprovider Sep 30 09:25:40 I assume you changed both class name and package Sep 30 09:26:36 yes i did. let me give you the source code Sep 30 09:27:43 here @ SimonVT Sep 30 09:27:43 https://github.com/udacity/StockHawk/blob/master/app/src/main/AndroidManifest.xml#L41 Sep 30 09:29:45 here is the screenshot of the error @SimonVT: https://postimg.org/image/epl5dq46r/ Sep 30 09:30:10 I tried everything including typing the fulll package name Sep 30 09:32:20 Hello Androiders, I want to add files to my Android Studio project. Files are not in my workspace. I dont want to copy files into my workspace because this is shared files, I cant change their location. Is there any way to do that, or should i stop looking for it ? Sep 30 09:34:24 Is the contentprovider actually being generated? You can check in the build folder, it should be there somewhere Sep 30 09:40:32 SimonVT I'm not able to check right now as Im using my phone. I can check later if you like Sep 30 09:40:44 maybe i'll just contact you through Github Sep 30 09:40:50 palKu: try with a filesystem link? Sep 30 09:41:07 but yes I did about 3 projects using the Schematic library Sep 30 09:41:18 and they all get that same error althought the code runs fine Sep 30 09:41:56 is there any chance that you can download that repo and run it so you can see the issue? Sep 30 09:43:22 I doubt there's anything I can do if AS doesn't pick up that it exists Sep 30 09:44:04 Make sure you're using the latest versions of android-apt, etc Sep 30 09:47:02 Melatonina: Thank you my savior Sep 30 10:03:08 How are you supposed to use the Realm examples in Android Studio? Sep 30 10:03:25 You can load them but you can't run them Sep 30 10:03:47 and the "Android" project view doesn't look like a normal project Sep 30 10:04:26 OK thanks at SimonVt so basically I should not get that error at all? Sep 30 10:04:38 I was under the impression that it was normal this whole time Sep 30 10:09:31 I'm getting this error: "Error:SDK location not found. Define location with sdk.dir in the local.properties file or with an ANDROID_HOME environment variable." Sep 30 10:09:48 but both sdk.dir and ANDROID_HOME are set correctly Sep 30 10:09:54 What can I do? Sep 30 10:10:06 I would like to run the Realm example projects Sep 30 10:10:25 Idiosyncratic: Hi. Can you help me? Sep 30 10:10:36 Melatonina: err, I'll try Sep 30 10:11:04 I'll paste in private because I just asked my question here Sep 30 10:23:04 hi SimonVT how do I troubleshoot my issue about pets not being long? should i put a break point at line 55 and debug from there? Sep 30 10:26:17 Yep, you can do that Sep 30 10:29:48 Hi, SimonVT. Could you help me to run the Realm examples? Sep 30 10:32:46 Nope Sep 30 10:32:56 Ok, thanks anyway. Sep 30 10:34:06 Trying to instal the Google API Client throguh Gradle, but for some reason, IntelliJ doesn't recognise the GoogleApiClient class as being available to import. Anyone any ideas? Sep 30 10:34:25 I added compile 'com.google.api-client:google-api-client:1.22.0' to my dependencies Sep 30 10:43:20 not sure your dependency is correct at all Sep 30 10:43:35 iirc it's part of com.google.android.gms:play-services[...] Sep 30 10:43:47 hi, adq. Do you use Realm? Sep 30 10:43:52 nope Sep 30 10:43:59 ok. thanks Sep 30 10:44:02 ask the channel if you have an issue, not someone Sep 30 10:44:15 adq: Well, that library does install (If I rename it to cient from client it fails to install) Sep 30 10:44:16 if anybody knows and is willing, you will get your answer Sep 30 10:44:24 and as per the google documentation (https://developers.google.com/api-client-library/java/) that's how you do it. Sep 30 10:45:06 OK, that did instlal, but not the GoogleApiClient class. maybe the docs I found on using that class are wrong. Sep 30 10:45:09 3Android 1.5 or higher–but if a Google Play Services library is available for the Google service you need, use that library instead of this one. The Google Play library will give you the best possible performance and experience.3 Sep 30 10:45:27 i used in several projects the google api client and never used your dependency but the playservices one Sep 30 10:45:41 however this does not prove you are right or wrong Sep 30 10:45:49 oh, the guide that uses GoogleApiClient is on the android pages. Sep 30 10:46:04 Just trying to get current location Sep 30 10:46:57 https://developers.google.com/android/guides/setup here there is a bigger list and how they cut lib into sublibs Sep 30 10:48:24 thus, maybe you just need com.google.android.gms:play-services-location:9.6.1 Sep 30 10:48:52 yeah, just about to add tat in Sep 30 10:48:53 that* Sep 30 10:49:28 not so sure that'll help with this guide tho https://developer.android.com/training/location/retrieve-current.html#play-services Sep 30 10:50:11 it should, and this page redirects to the latest i pasted regarding setup of playservice Sep 30 10:57:29 Hello, can i use an intent to supply an activity with an image? Sep 30 10:59:20 best would be you supply the path or a reference to the image, not the image (content) itself Sep 30 11:02:53 ok Sep 30 11:02:57 yea i realized it now Sep 30 11:13:24 can anyone explain to me how this is a Binatry Tree: http://pastebin.com/Y0ZXJSV8 I think the questions says its a Binary Search Tree but actually it is a Binary Tree Sep 30 11:41:43 hey all Sep 30 11:42:12 this might be a stupid question, but... could someone tel me how to change my app background? Sep 30 11:42:35 could be in theme Sep 30 11:42:51 Ashiren: in res/values? Sep 30 11:43:30 values/styles, in your AppTheme add @android:color/black Sep 30 11:43:54 Ashiren: thank you Sep 30 11:43:58 you can set per activity in xml giving the root layout background, or programmatically Sep 30 11:44:13 DelphiWorld, https://developer.android.com/training/material/theme.html < windowBackground Sep 30 11:44:30 good good Sep 30 11:44:42 avoid painting background over background over background when you can just tell globally Sep 30 11:44:56 this is a serious performance issue called "overdraw" Sep 30 11:45:00 avoid it at all cost Sep 30 11:45:05 adq, i have a " this is a play button Sep 30 11:45:39 but blind people wont have "play" caption, it's just a button with play background image on it Sep 30 11:45:44 I did not understand sorry, or maybe you did not paste the correct stuff between double quotes Sep 30 11:45:58 adq: hold on let me post my layout Sep 30 11:46:17 there is an attribute to provide text description for blind ppl, iirc Sep 30 11:46:21 on any views Sep 30 11:46:32 android:contentDescription Sep 30 11:46:38 wait... Sep 30 11:47:52 crapy pastebin.com detecting xml as a spam Sep 30 11:49:02 adq: https://dpaste.de/pYRf Sep 30 11:49:07 see the "play" image view Sep 30 11:49:37 yes Sep 30 11:49:50 the button should have the "PLAY" caption Sep 30 11:50:11 oh I see your problem, you need to use another component than ImageView Sep 30 11:50:24 because ImageView does not allow you to display text, only image Sep 30 11:50:37 what should i change it to? Sep 30 11:51:43 TextView with drawableTop maybe Sep 30 11:51:46 you could use a TextView with a drawable set to display the image Sep 30 11:51:59 hmmm, will check Sep 30 11:52:07 so i just change the ImageView to TextView? Sep 30 11:53:17 well if on the same component, you want to display text and an image you have to, and it's better than wrapping in a layout both a seperate TextView and a separate Imageview Sep 30 11:53:40 where to put the "play" caption in a text view? Sep 30 11:53:50 SimonVT told you drawableTop Sep 30 11:54:01 but it could be on left, bottom or right, that's up to you Sep 30 11:54:19 but in what context i should put the "play" text? Sep 30 11:54:22 what param? Sep 30 11:55:05 :text Sep 30 11:55:05 It's a TextView Sep 30 11:55:13 hold on Sep 30 11:55:50 hey guys remember i'm not a true developer but just a blind user trying to make itself lost in the Ocean ;) Sep 30 11:55:55 so i'm not good in any gui writing Sep 30 11:56:04 no worry Sep 30 11:56:10 thanks adq Sep 30 11:56:24 to summarize, you wanted to add text on an image and we explained it's not possible. Instead you have to put an image as a compound drawable in a regular textview Sep 30 11:56:39 you should get a medal for doing this stuff blind Sep 30 11:56:58 hey raoul11... no need for any gold crap... this is my hoby ;) Sep 30 11:57:12 seriously, i cant even imagine the efforts it takes Sep 30 11:57:24 thanks to text to speech stufs Sep 30 11:57:40 i hated android studio, but gradle made it pretty easy Sep 30 11:57:58 lol Sep 30 11:58:22 Can't even imagine reading logcat with text to speech Sep 30 11:58:34 yes you can :D :D :D Sep 30 11:59:06 SimonVT: no, it's not pocible Sep 30 11:59:20 logcat wont stop logging at all, except if i use it with grep it'll be pretty usefull Sep 30 11:59:38 I figured Sep 30 12:02:01 strange, malformed xml... Sep 30 12:02:48 if you followed on SimonVT, its text: not :text Sep 30 12:03:08 raoul11: check? https://dpaste.de/jHei Sep 30 12:03:30 actually im wrong Sep 30 12:03:42 other language kicked in Sep 30 12:03:44 Missing closing tag on line 85 Sep 30 12:04:02 you forgot to close your textview with /> Sep 30 12:04:02 SimonVT: android:padding="8dp" Sep 30 12:04:20 yer fast SimonVT Sep 30 12:04:22 Yep Sep 30 12:04:24 also do not use the background for your image, use android:drawableTop or android:drawableLeft etc Sep 30 12:04:41 SimonVT was fast ;) Sep 30 12:04:45 To be fair, dpaste highlights the next tag. That indicated something was wrong Sep 30 12:05:03 SimonVT: not only dpaste. but also aapt make me think Sep 30 12:05:34 adq: so drawableTop will also include the image? Sep 30 12:05:55 yes, it will put your image on top of the text Sep 30 12:06:05 hey, good Sep 30 12:06:07 background is not meant for that, and it will scale badly your image too Sep 30 12:06:12 what's the diference with background? Sep 30 12:06:22 adq: perfect Sep 30 12:06:25 background does not care of the image size ratio Sep 30 12:08:31 so Drawable* will auto resize it Sep 30 12:09:54 it's more that it will keep the ratio and not stretch it Sep 30 12:10:24 my app crash... Sep 30 12:10:49 boom Sep 30 12:11:30 lol Sep 30 12:12:29 ah, adq Sep 30 12:12:30 see img_ply=(ImageView)findViewById(R.id.img_play); Sep 30 12:12:36 huh Sep 30 12:12:40