**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 02 02:59:58 2016
Oct 02 03:00:37 <Melatonina> SuperWangCC2: first, change channel. Go to #android-root
Oct 02 03:01:44 <SuperWangCC2> thanks
Oct 02 03:13:01 <thornekey> for a list are there design guidelines? like should the list background be the same as the background for my list items?
Oct 02 03:13:12 <thornekey> currently the background is white but the list items are like grey..
Oct 02 03:15:29 <_genuser_> error: device offline. err, not it's not!
Oct 02 03:51:32 <g00s> wow, rust gets wasm target
Oct 02 05:21:43 <grekkos> has anyone here used MoPub before? I got my ads all set up and working but if I destroy them in onDestroy as per the documentation, they never get re-created and it seems that trying to create it onResume just fails completely
Oct 02 05:22:10 <grekkos> I know it's kind of a mopub specific question but I thought I'd check here first to see if anyone might have some insight as to why
Oct 02 08:10:37 <lexton> all quiet on the ...
Oct 02 08:31:28 <thornekey> should list items have the same background colour as the list itself ?
Oct 02 08:33:35 <android-dev150> Hey guys I got a litlle problem while compiling cm 13 could someone help me http://pastebin.com/ppSSaWJj https://github.com/Packmaan7144/kernel_nvidia_s8515 https://github.com/Packmaan7144/device_nvidia_s8515
Oct 02 08:38:52 <justJanne> Fun find: Google’s Screenwise Meter app uses Jackson, not Gson, uses JodaTime, not the JSR versions, and includes the full OCR model
Oct 02 08:38:52 <Ashiren> thats job for.. #android-dev !
Oct 02 08:39:10 <Ashiren> erm.. #android-root
Oct 02 08:39:18 <Ashiren> ROM/kernel stuff goes into #android-root
Oct 02 08:39:30 <android-dev150> ah sry my bad
Oct 02 09:00:15 <thornekey> how do i check why an activity has finished
Oct 02 09:11:30 <SimonVT> Activity#isFinishing/isChangingConfiguration
Oct 02 09:16:12 <justJanne> thornekey: why?
Oct 02 09:16:16 <justJanne> if you started the activity,
Oct 02 09:16:24 <justJanne> with startActivityForResult,
Oct 02 09:16:27 <justJanne> you get a resultcode
Oct 02 09:16:37 <justJanne> which the activity can set when finishing with setResult()
Oct 02 09:16:42 <thornekey> ohk
Oct 02 09:16:46 <justJanne> default is RESULT_CANCEL
Oct 02 09:17:27 <raoul11> praise the lord for onActivityResult
Oct 02 10:07:57 <thornekey> ... using <style name="AppTheme" parent="@android:style/Theme.Holo.Light"> crashes my app
Oct 02 10:25:15 <thornekey> You need to use a Theme.AppCompat theme (or descendant) with this activity
Oct 02 10:26:05 <Baash05> Hey
Oct 02 10:26:43 <Baash05> I've just installed android studios
Oct 02 10:27:19 <Baash05> I picked a sample and tried to build.
Oct 02 10:27:21 <Baash05> Error:Execution failed for task ':app:compileDebugAidl'.
Oct 02 10:27:23 <Baash05> > java.lang.RuntimeException: org.gradle.process.internal.ExecException: A problem occurred starting process 'command '/home/nomad/Android/Sdk/build-tools/23.0.1/aidl''
Oct 02 10:30:47 <baash05_> Anyone here?
Oct 02 10:33:25 * raoul11 flicks thepoosh's yamaka
Oct 02 10:33:40 <thepoosh> on this?! the eve of the first day of the year?!
Oct 02 10:33:46 <thepoosh> HOW DARE YOU!!!
Oct 02 10:33:49 <thepoosh> INFIDEL!!!
Oct 02 10:33:54 <thepoosh> sup dude?
Oct 02 10:33:56 <raoul11> shanatova f|_|@&\
Oct 02 10:34:07 <raoul11> not bad
Oct 02 10:34:30 <raoul11> whats new on your side of the mountain
Oct 02 10:34:49 <thepoosh> meh
Oct 02 10:34:52 <thepoosh> stressful day
Oct 02 10:35:01 <thepoosh> sorking half day and cooking for too many meals
Oct 02 10:35:20 <raoul11> hamin and koogel?
Oct 02 10:35:34 <thepoosh>  nah
Oct 02 10:35:39 <thepoosh> rice and shit
Oct 02 10:35:53 <thepoosh> as a jew I feel connected to asian food
Oct 02 10:35:53 <raoul11> where u doing the meal?
Oct 02 10:35:58 <raoul11> lol
Oct 02 10:36:01 <thepoosh> family and friends
Oct 02 10:36:06 <thepoosh> depending on the meal
Oct 02 10:36:18 <Baash05> Hey guys.. I'm trying to figure out a bug in a new install
Oct 02 10:36:37 <Baash05> New AS install and sample app.
Oct 02 10:36:43 <Baash05> I get java.lang.RuntimeException: org.gradle.process.internal.ExecException: A problem occurred starting process 'command '/home/nomad/Android/Sdk/build-tools/23.0.1/aidl''
Oct 02 10:37:00 <thepoosh> sux
Oct 02 10:37:18 <raoul11> will u b online or is it fuckall internetz kinda holiday?
Oct 02 10:37:23 <thepoosh> Baash05: have you tried turning it off and back on again?
Oct 02 10:37:32 <thepoosh> nah, no internetz
Oct 02 10:37:32 <Baash05> Ha ha..
Oct 02 10:37:41 <thepoosh> will be online on tuesday night
Oct 02 10:38:24 <thepoosh> https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/s960x960/14524590_1152134061531316_1247432304862056689_o.jpg
Oct 02 10:38:25 <raoul11> enjoy and shanatova
Oct 02 10:38:32 <thepoosh> yipyip
Oct 02 10:38:35 <raoul11> gonna lunch myself b4 tonights big meal
Oct 02 10:44:12 <justJanne> funny: Google Translate’s "Open Source Licenses" menu contains the GPL info page several times
Oct 02 10:44:21 <justJanne> including information on how to integrate the GPL into your own apps
Oct 02 10:45:15 <justJanne> quoting from the file: http://hastebin.com/cimepehacu.sql
Oct 02 10:45:43 <justJanne> you can see it by clicking on any of the libraries that use the GPL, because Google packaged the wrong file to inform about the GPL’d libraries they used
Oct 02 10:47:37 <thepoosh> raoul11: launch launch?
Oct 02 10:47:52 <raoul11> yes
Oct 02 10:48:08 <thepoosh> omgomgomg
Oct 02 10:48:13 <thepoosh> without code review?
Oct 02 10:48:15 <thepoosh> simpleton
Oct 02 10:48:53 <raoul11> wtf
Oct 02 10:49:08 <raoul11> one of my activity got filled with appindexing activity
Oct 02 10:49:20 <raoul11> outofnowhere
Oct 02 11:06:24 <thornekey> trying to use onCreateOptionsMenu in my activity but it says that it doesnt override from its superclass
Oct 02 11:49:44 <Silicium> hi there
Oct 02 11:50:19 <Silicium> can anyone tell me where "FmRadio" uses the Internet permission?
Oct 02 11:51:23 <Silicium> i'am just wondering why it connects to google periodically without being started. and i can't find it in the source
Oct 02 11:52:12 <Ashiren> is it internet radio?
Oct 02 11:52:20 <Ashiren> could be analytics
Oct 02 11:52:23 <Silicium> nope, FMRadio
Oct 02 11:53:07 <Silicium> yes analytics is what i'am expecting but i can't find anything about in the source, and i'am wondering if it is a library which provides such tracking functions for sort of android stock apps
Oct 02 11:54:58 <Silicium> the only reason beside GA would be the station names, but they also got transferred trough radio
Oct 02 11:58:00 <Ashiren> the fm radio is stock app, made by device's company since there is no fm radio api in android
Oct 02 11:58:11 <Ashiren> could be also some analytics/spying by that company
Oct 02 11:58:51 <adq> it's platform stuff, out of the scope of this channel
Oct 02 11:59:15 <Ashiren> oh really :?
Oct 02 11:59:32 <adq> https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/FMRadio/+/master
Oct 02 12:00:16 <Silicium> its aosp my dear
Oct 02 12:01:09 <Silicium> i'am not paranoid but there is also the possibility to send FM, at least by the app.
Oct 02 12:01:10 <Idiosyncratic> Silicium: why do you care about this? Afraid that Google/your phone company will find out that you like to dress in women's clothing?
Oct 02 12:01:39 <Ashiren> send FM?
Oct 02 12:01:57 <adq> they do bad things in their code, like allocating in ondraw https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/FMRadio/+/master/src/com/android/fmradio/views/FmVisualizerView.java#161
Oct 02 12:02:22 <nevex57> anyone got an idea of why a simple "service call wifi" via init.d script might not work ? run-parts always tells me "service: Service wifi does not exist ", even if i set a sleep and i know its available
Oct 02 12:02:40 <adq> wrong channel, again
Oct 02 12:02:41 <Idiosyncratic> nevex57: sounds like a job for #android-root
Oct 02 12:02:47 <Silicium> exploiting that whoild be also funny, even if you are in flight mode, its possible to receive stuff by FM
Oct 02 12:02:54 <adq> it's not
Oct 02 12:03:01 <adq> flight mode == no network connectivity
Oct 02 12:03:41 <nevex57> oh ok, wasnt sure he
Oct 02 12:03:50 <Silicium> including FM?
Oct 02 12:04:39 <adq> not sure, cause FM itself is not really considered as network, you can only receive too
Oct 02 12:04:50 <Idiosyncratic> adq: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130723/12395923907/even-powering-down-cell-phone-cant-keep-nsa-tracking-its-location.shtml
Oct 02 12:04:51 <adq> iirc it's often tight with the bluetooth chip
Oct 02 12:05:14 <Silicium> adq: ah ok
Oct 02 12:05:33 <Idiosyncratic> Since we're in conspiracy-mode, not even powering down the phone would shut off sending signals
Oct 02 12:05:35 <Silicium> Idiosyncratic: yes thats because of the properitary baseband.
Oct 02 12:05:38 <adq> we?
Oct 02 12:05:42 <adq> Idiosyncratic, please
Oct 02 12:05:49 <Idiosyncratic> adq: I meant generally :P
Oct 02 12:08:56 <Idiosyncratic> It's eugenics and reptilians! Black helicopters and martial law!
Oct 02 12:15:43 <Idiosyncratic> adq: more relevant http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/police-hackers-phone-tracking/
Oct 02 12:16:12 <Idiosyncratic> One that connects to cellular networks, and one that interfaces with the consumer. Airplane mode may only disable features in the consumer facing operating system, such as Android or iOS, but not in the OS used between the phone and the carrier network. A phone may be giving out a ‘ping’ and you’d never know it.
Oct 02 12:16:37 <adq> ...
Oct 02 12:16:44 <adq> please ignore me, or I will ignore you
Oct 02 12:16:57 <Idiosyncratic> adq: ?
Oct 02 12:17:27 <Idiosyncratic> adq: at least give me a reason for why you're divorcing me
Oct 02 12:20:05 <Silicium> i mean removing simcard of course will not work, you are even able to do an emergencycall without a sim
Oct 02 12:23:54 <Idiosyncratic> Silicium: why do you care about not being tracked, though? Trying to smuggle uranium to Iran or something?
Oct 02 12:24:40 <Silicium> if i would do that i would do it without any electronic device.
Oct 02 12:24:43 <Idiosyncratic> Silicium: and who knows how different things are in Germany in comparison to the US
Oct 02 12:25:02 <Melatonina> Hello guys! How is your Sunday going?
Oct 02 12:25:10 <Silicium> Idiosyncratic: they aren't
Oct 02 12:25:36 <Silicium> Idiosyncratic: the almost the same as in US
Oct 02 12:26:37 <Idiosyncratic> Melatonina: hey
Oct 02 12:27:07 <Melatonina> Idiosyncratic: I'm making a trivia app!
Oct 02 12:27:15 <Idiosyncratic> Melatonina: aha :P
Oct 02 12:27:30 <Melatonina> Idiosyncratic: why do you laugh?
Oct 02 12:27:41 <Silicium> interesting, now fmradio tries to connect to 10.56.116.3
Oct 02 12:27:51 <Silicium> which is a private network
Oct 02 12:28:04 <Idiosyncratic> Silicium: the plot thickens. Now I really am curious.
Oct 02 12:28:50 <Idiosyncratic> US IP, of course
Oct 02 12:29:00 <Silicium> its a private ip.
Oct 02 12:29:32 <Melatonina> Silicium: is it your device that is trying to connect to my computer?
Oct 02 12:29:33 <Silicium> like local debugging host of $dev which someone forgot the remove from the release build
Oct 02 12:30:24 <Idiosyncratic> Silicium: https://db-ip.com/10.56.116.3
Oct 02 12:30:38 <Idiosyncratic> Ooooh
Oct 02 12:30:43 <Idiosyncratic> I get it
Oct 02 12:31:35 <Silicium> jesus, 10.0.0.0/8 is a privavte network, its not assigned to anyone
Oct 02 12:32:03 <Idiosyncratic> Silicium: I get it, I get it
Oct 02 12:51:12 <yoavst> android.content.res.Resources$NotFoundException: File res/drawable/holiday_background.xml from drawable resource ID #0x7f02005d
Oct 02 12:51:20 <yoavst> Why? File exists.
Oct 02 12:51:45 <yoavst> http://pastebin.com/t5fPtzCp
Oct 02 12:55:10 <Idiosyncratic> Anyone know if I can disassociate my Google account with my app's Play Games service?
Oct 02 12:55:17 <Idiosyncratic> *from my
Oct 02 12:56:13 <Melatonina> Why would you do that?
Oct 02 12:56:33 <Ashiren> paranoia mode
Oct 02 12:56:43 <Idiosyncratic> Debugging reasons
Oct 02 12:59:45 <Melatonina> Can't you change the email?
Oct 02 13:00:12 <Idiosyncratic> Melatonina: way too time consuming
Oct 02 13:01:44 <Melatonina> Idiosyncratic: how many quiz does your app have?
Oct 02 13:01:57 <Idiosyncratic> Melatonina: 102 right now
Oct 02 13:02:15 <Melatonina> Idiosyncratic: I'll put 103 in mine
Oct 02 13:02:28 <Idiosyncratic> Melatonina: meh :P
Oct 02 13:02:34 <Melatonina> :D
Oct 02 13:06:03 <Melatonina> Idiosyncratic: "How many people in average weekend attendance does a Protestant church must have in order to be considered a "megachurch"?"
Oct 02 13:06:10 <Melatonina> Idiosyncratic: that's a cool question
Oct 02 13:10:16 <Idiosyncratic> I can't for the life of me understand why my Play Games connection takes so much time to be established on my app
Oct 02 13:15:03 <DelphiWorld> hey all
Oct 02 13:15:07 <DelphiWorld> happy droid weekend
Oct 02 13:15:17 <thepoosh> hi hi
Oct 02 13:15:25 <DelphiWorld> hey thepoosh
Oct 02 13:15:29 <thepoosh> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-take-on-an-ancient-method-improves-way-to-find-prime-numbers/
Oct 02 13:15:51 <thepoosh> you think brute forcing PGP is gonna happen now?
Oct 02 13:16:15 <DelphiWorld> general question: if i plan to develope a android chat app, is there any guidance on what library to use for end to end encrypted messaging?
Oct 02 13:17:28 <Ashiren> wel
Oct 02 13:17:29 <Ashiren> p
Oct 02 13:19:22 <DelphiWorld> back
Oct 02 13:20:14 <Melatonina> DelphiWorld: hello!!!!
Oct 02 13:20:29 <thepoosh> DelphiWorld: what's wrong with SSL connections?
Oct 02 13:20:55 <DelphiWorld> thepoosh: nothing wrong, but end to end encryption still more safe
Oct 02 13:21:11 <thepoosh> well, SSL is end to end encryption
Oct 02 13:21:12 <DelphiWorld> who sayd that one day mossad breick into my server and take all logs? LOL
Oct 02 13:21:26 <Ashiren> if SSL/TLS is implemented properly you dont need additional encryption layer
Oct 02 13:21:45 <DelphiWorld> thepoosh: i want to encrypt using local key and deliver, then decrypt it in the remote machine
Oct 02 13:21:52 <thepoosh> you can have some sort of SQL cypher but it only adds latency
Oct 02 13:22:02 <thepoosh> DelphiWorld: then try PGP
Oct 02 13:22:24 <thepoosh> which is the fastest way to encrypt information
Oct 02 13:22:32 <DelphiWorld> thepoosh & Ashiren, i'm totaly out of the encryption world, just trying to steal from you guys your nice knoledges :P
Oct 02 13:22:42 <thepoosh> DelphiWorld: so just use SSH
Oct 02 13:22:46 <thepoosh> which should be enough
Oct 02 13:22:50 <DelphiWorld> hahaha
Oct 02 13:22:54 <Ashiren> well i havent implemented encryption stuff
Oct 02 13:22:59 <DelphiWorld> ssh should complicate things i think
Oct 02 13:23:00 <Ashiren> i just know home-made crypto is a no-no
Oct 02 13:23:04 <thepoosh> and don't keep any records on server
Oct 02 13:23:06 <DelphiWorld> i think will just stay with tls 1.2
Oct 02 13:23:29 <thepoosh> if you must keep records on server, you can do it with cyphers
Oct 02 13:23:33 <thepoosh> or secure connections
Oct 02 13:23:37 <DelphiWorld> i see
Oct 02 13:23:43 <thepoosh> but every layer of encryption has a cost
Oct 02 13:23:51 <DelphiWorld> yeah
Oct 02 13:23:54 <thepoosh> with time it takes to encrypt and decrypt every message
Oct 02 13:23:55 <DelphiWorld> latency and so on
Oct 02 13:24:19 <thepoosh> also, don't keep passwords stored in plain text
Oct 02 13:24:23 <DelphiWorld> i'm looking for an open source xmpp client for android with voice, but no luck yet
Oct 02 13:24:34 <thepoosh> telegram is GPL
Oct 02 13:24:37 <DelphiWorld> thepoosh: password must be encrypted offcource
Oct 02 13:24:58 <thepoosh> you're saying that but I know too many services that kinds forgot about that
Oct 02 13:25:00 <DelphiWorld> thepoosh: telegram isn't standalone, its not standard. telegram use telegram api, i am looking for XMPP
Oct 02 13:25:45 <DelphiWorld> most xmpp clients i found dont implement any kind of calling either WebRTC or jingle
Oct 02 13:27:07 <thepoosh> DelphiWorld: http://xmpp.org/software/clients.html
Oct 02 13:27:32 <DelphiWorld> i know this page
Oct 02 13:34:56 <Ashiren> https://github.com/redsolution/xabber-android
Oct 02 13:35:17 <DelphiWorld> cloning...
Oct 02 13:36:00 <Ashiren> meh xabber used to support facebook chat
Oct 02 13:36:11 <Ashiren> but no money in running xmpp and alternative clients eh
Oct 02 13:36:23 <DelphiWorld> xmpp is easy to run just a simple vps
Oct 02 13:36:26 <DelphiWorld> i hate facebook
Oct 02 13:39:25 <DelphiWorld> Ashiren, but nothing anounced about voice & video calling
Oct 02 13:40:08 * Ashiren shrugs
Oct 02 14:21:40 <NeoFrontier> Hello girls and guys :). How do I spellcheck xml string contents ? like in strings.xml ?
Oct 02 14:21:56 <NeoFrontier> Or is that not going to happen with Android Studio ?
Oct 02 14:22:29 <Melatonina> NeoFrontier: there are no girls here
Oct 02 14:22:40 <NeoFrontier> *sigh*
Oct 02 14:23:12 <NeoFrontier> Girls can also program you know.
Oct 02 14:23:18 <Melatonina> NeoFrontier: Android Studio spellchecks everything: strings, comments, class names, variable names, methods names, resource names
Oct 02 14:23:22 <NeoFrontier> Especially the Phsycopaths
Oct 02 14:23:30 <Melatonina> NeoFrontier: yeah, on TV
Oct 02 14:24:28 <NeoFrontier> Yeah Melatonina I now notice just the gray was to light. Will need to change that colour.
Oct 02 14:24:37 <NeoFrontier> Ty for da input.
Oct 02 14:24:44 <Melatonina> Android Studio spellchecks your passwords, your MD5 sums, your ass too
Oct 02 14:24:56 <Melatonina> You are welcome but there are not girls here
Oct 02 14:25:15 <NeoFrontier> lol
Oct 02 14:32:39 <homa_> hi
Oct 02 14:34:07 <Swyper> hi
Oct 02 14:35:01 <NeoFrontier> hi
Oct 02 14:38:52 <NeoFrontier> Am I just blind again ? Now I cant find a setting for that light gray underline for a spelling error.
Oct 02 14:39:14 <NeoFrontier> I go file>settings>
Oct 02 14:39:43 <NeoFrontier> editor>colors&fonts
Oct 02 14:39:58 <Melatonina> NeoFrontier: did you try typing "spell" in the search box?
Oct 02 14:40:10 <NeoFrontier> yeah
Oct 02 14:41:01 <NeoFrontier> I think I found it...
Oct 02 14:42:47 <Melatonina> Cool
Oct 02 14:43:45 <NeoFrontier> aaah much better :D
Oct 02 14:45:05 <NeoFrontier> You know, you have a girly name if you don't take it as Melatonin-a.
Oct 02 14:45:16 <NeoFrontier> But as MeletonINA
Oct 02 14:51:50 <Melatonina> It's "MelatonINA" in fact
Oct 02 14:52:48 <NeoFrontier> scary
Oct 02 14:53:34 <Melatonina> I'm a pre-op trans
Oct 02 14:55:01 <NeoFrontier> Thats not sexy man.
Oct 02 14:55:54 <Melatonina> You're being insulting. Watch what you say
Oct 02 14:56:27 <NeoFrontier> I think you are simply a girl.
Oct 02 14:58:35 <Idiosyncratic> NeoFrontier: I think he's an Italian and in Italian a lot of nouns have an "a" at the end
Oct 02 14:59:05 <Melatonina> Idiosyncratic: yeah, basically most feminine nouns
Oct 02 14:59:32 <Melatonina> and I'm not Italian
Oct 02 15:00:08 <Melatonina> When I start a new action as consequence of the user tapping on a navigation menu item, should I kill all other activities but the "home" one?
Oct 02 15:00:30 <Melatonina> The Google Play app seems to do something like that
Oct 02 15:00:40 <Melatonina> Is it correct?
Oct 02 15:01:48 <NeoFrontier> Ok text people. i'm out of here \0
Oct 02 15:02:00 <Melatonina> Bye
Oct 02 15:34:39 <Odaym> hey guys
Oct 02 15:35:25 <Odaym> can I explicitly access a UI element from within a test?
Oct 02 15:36:26 <Odaym> like i'm trying to mock a sensorevent so that I can issue an event when it happens, in that event (on the activity side) a textview changes but of course im getting the issue that only the thread that created the view can touch its views
Oct 02 15:43:13 <g00s> this was great https://speakerdeck.com/lisawray/radical-recyclerview-droidcon-nyc-2016
Oct 02 15:50:18 <adq> g00s, hmmm, you sure?
Oct 02 15:50:28 <g00s> adq didn't like it ?
Oct 02 15:50:36 <adq> most seems old, few slides after start I spot a typo: should be notifyDataSetChanged()
Oct 02 15:50:37 <adq> etc..
Oct 02 15:51:09 <g00s> oh. well it had to be after the last 2 RV presentations from yigit, probably typos
Oct 02 15:51:17 <adq> but sure there are always some stuff to read
Oct 02 15:51:25 <g00s> learned about epoxy and groupie
Oct 02 15:51:45 <g00s> adq damn, AS almost burned my machine up again
Oct 02 15:52:36 <g00s> so ... back with AS 2.1 i had this problem. If i ran an app on my device with instant run, and let the desktop go to sleep - instead weird thing happened, screen would go off and cpu would be pegged at 100%
Oct 02 15:52:48 <g00s> this was with USB connection. once i used adb over wifi, it went away
Oct 02 15:53:11 <adq> sorry to hear :|
Oct 02 15:53:11 <g00s> now with AS 2.2, whenever my machine goes to "sleep" (or tries) and instant run is going, my machine pegs cpus at 100%
Oct 02 15:53:25 <g00s> there must be some persistent connection with IR
Oct 02 15:53:55 <adq> I'm not anymore sharing the bugs I hit, too many
Oct 02 15:54:10 <adq> even regressions, like things which were working does not anymore
Oct 02 15:54:23 <adq> (up to color resolution in the quick popup......)
Oct 02 15:55:50 <g00s> yeah ... i just don't want the house to burn down
Oct 02 15:56:03 <g00s> i forgot to stop AS before going to sleep, wake up, machine is overheating
Oct 02 15:56:14 <g00s> some bugs are worse than others :P
Oct 02 15:56:32 <adq> and some bugs are on this OS but not on that other OS
Oct 02 15:56:53 <adq> there are just too many of them, that's the main issue
Oct 02 15:57:06 <Idiosyncratic> g00s: maybe you could burn down your house on purpose using this bug and then sue google. You'll be able to buy yourself 10 houses if you wish once you win the case. :O
Oct 02 15:57:07 <adq> seriously, never had an IDE with so many issues across so long time
Oct 02 15:57:23 <adq> of course, nobody is forcing me to use it, almost..
Oct 02 15:58:29 <g00s> if i was convinced android was going to be around in its current form much longer, i'd be interested in creating some integration with VS Code using Redhats Java support
Oct 02 15:59:17 <g00s> I really like that Editor, its very smooth. from what i hear, it might be the basis of future Visual Studio itself
Oct 02 15:59:22 <weatheredengr> you really think android is going to change taht drastically / be misplaced?
Oct 02 16:00:11 <g00s> weatheredengr well, we'll hear on Oct 4. I've been saying this for years, people think i'm full of shit. Native Java apps are not in Google's DNA. I expect, with Andromeda, over time, as things move more to the cloud, we will be using some other more web based stack
Oct 02 16:01:27 <g00s> you guys saw this right ? https://twitter.com/hallstephenj/status/781909207792562176
Oct 02 16:01:36 <adq> ...
Oct 02 16:01:45 <Idiosyncratic> I find it retarded that browsers are becoming OSs in OSs. No-one's making fast desktop applications anymore and instead opt for web applications :(
Oct 02 16:01:58 <adq> i don't share the same vision for the future at all lol but there is no point to speculate
Oct 02 16:02:08 <g00s> notice #4
Oct 02 16:02:09 <adq> and this tweet is seriously annoying me
Oct 02 16:02:15 <g00s> adq lol :D
Oct 02 16:02:19 <adq> i could not care less about being teased like that
Oct 02 16:02:53 <g00s> adq only have to wait a few more days !
Oct 02 16:02:57 <adq> lol
Oct 02 16:03:24 <g00s> oh i'm sure google is not coming out on oct 4 saying "ok, all your apps need to be rewritten"
Oct 02 16:03:51 <g00s> whatever they do, there would be compatibility shims, tooling support - i'd expect our java stuff to be like win32
Oct 02 16:04:02 <g00s> but there to be another 'new way' thats 1st class
Oct 02 16:04:11 <g00s> as an alternative to what we are doing
Oct 02 16:06:01 <weatheredengr> g00s definitely an interesting theory on the future of android. IDK, Im just here trying to put android 7 on a nexus one. what do i know
Oct 02 16:06:56 <g00s> i wouldn't be too surprised if it was stuff like flutter / dart
Oct 02 16:07:19 <g00s> but yeah, only a few days now. the dev kit will be exciting if thats true
Oct 02 16:07:36 <Idiosyncratic> If they're switching languages, would they use Go?
Oct 02 16:07:53 <g00s> i see Go as a replacement for C ... doubt it
Oct 02 16:08:06 <g00s> same thing, the web is google's platform
Oct 02 16:08:26 <g00s> i expect future directions to be more web based
Oct 02 16:08:35 <Idiosyncratic> g00s: HTML/JS nightmare?
Oct 02 16:09:00 <g00s> dart transpiles into JS, i don't think we' d do that directly
Oct 02 16:09:09 <g00s> even rust has a wasm target now
Oct 02 16:09:34 <g00s> i don't think it would be like the current SPAs using Angular 2, React - but who knows
Oct 02 16:09:48 <Idiosyncratic> Jesus Christ, software's turning to shit with all of these "transpiles"
Oct 02 16:10:01 <g00s> well thats what wasm tries to solve
Oct 02 16:10:26 <adq> <g00s> i expect future directions to be more web based << it's already the case, but look at the WebView component on android ;)))))[+ infinite])))
Oct 02 16:10:41 <adq> no comment
Oct 02 16:11:28 <g00s> adq i don't know much about it, but expect some pain around webview to be integrating with java apis
Oct 02 16:11:39 <g00s> as for bugs in standards, dunno about that either
Oct 02 16:12:04 <g00s> one thing i dislike about android is native code is not really a first class citizen
Oct 02 16:12:16 <adq> looks like you never played with webview at all
Oct 02 16:12:24 <g00s> so much easier working with c/c++ on iOS
Oct 02 16:12:47 <g00s> adq i haven't, i know it sucks, and totally avoided it. don't like hybrid apps either
Oct 02 16:13:04 <adq> it sucks high
Oct 02 16:13:05 <g00s> amazon Kindle app is hybrid, its a total piece of shit.
Oct 02 16:15:17 <g00s> well, book reading is OK but, the webview parts that show the store are terrible and janky
Oct 02 16:26:29 <tx> Hey guys, I have a viewpager with a bunch of preferencefragments in it
Oct 02 16:26:57 <tx> they all work fine, but when I go back to an already been-to page of the viewpager
Oct 02 16:27:06 <tx> the preferencefragment's items are listed again
Oct 02 16:27:11 <tx> so, twice instead of one time
Oct 02 16:27:18 <tx> this increases with subsequent visits.
Oct 02 16:46:16 <g00s> adq think its also interesting that there is no android developer summit this year. of course, could just be we don't need any more Material discussions ;)
Oct 02 16:47:06 <g00s> tx you mean the pager's items are duplicated? like item 1 item 2 item 1 item 2 or something ?
Oct 02 16:47:22 <tx> g00s: the content of the fragments, actually
Oct 02 16:47:35 <tx> so i'd have a preferencefragment whose loaded XML would contain "Item 1"
Oct 02 16:47:45 <tx> when I come back to it , it would have "Item 1" , "Item 1"
Oct 02 16:55:23 <g00s> tx obviously your timing for addPreferencesFromResource() is wrong
Oct 02 17:16:14 <Melatonina> Is Java obsolete_
Oct 02 17:16:32 <Melatonina> ?
Oct 02 17:26:16 <NSMustache> Hi, need help adding the arm64-v8a target to my gradle experimental build, hope it's the right channel
Oct 02 17:26:42 <Ashiren> eeyup
Oct 02 17:27:45 <Ashiren> ndk.abiFilters.add("arm64-v8a")?
Oct 02 17:29:39 <NSMustache> Thanks. In productFlavors { create("all")… or another location?
Oct 02 17:31:23 <Ashiren> yes
Oct 02 17:31:38 <Ashiren> if you leave abiFilters empty it should work for all arch
Oct 02 17:41:30 <Odaym> have you guys ever been able to run any test that had the UiThreadTest annotation?
Oct 02 17:41:59 <NSMustache> Could it be possible I don't have the cross-compiler for this ABI installed? I can't see a gradle model for compileMyLibArm64-v8a, yet there are a bunch of Armeabi-v7a, Armeabi, Mips, x86...
Oct 02 17:42:26 <Odaym> all tests that have that annotation just hang there
Oct 02 17:46:38 <TacticalJoke> Melatonina: "Is Java obsolete?"  How do you mean?
Oct 02 17:47:42 <Melatonina> TacticalJoke: you people are talking about new stuff from Google that should make obsolete everything I learned in the past month and a half... I was just asking how realistic are these discourses
Oct 02 17:48:01 <TacticalJoke> Google is sticking with Java for the foreseeable future.
Oct 02 17:48:09 <TacticalJoke> For Android, I mean.
Oct 02 17:48:18 <TacticalJoke> And Java will stay around for a long, long time in general.
Oct 02 17:48:30 <Melatonina> Ok. Thanks
Oct 02 17:48:49 <TacticalJoke> Have you done much programming stuff in the past?
Oct 02 17:48:52 <Ashiren> learn more java 8
Oct 02 17:49:25 <Melatonina> On and off. I didn't program actively for several years before starting with Android.
Oct 02 17:49:48 <TacticalJoke> Java is a great "Get back into programming" language.
Oct 02 17:50:03 <TacticalJoke> Even if Java died tomorrow, your efforts would not have been wasted.  :D
Oct 02 17:50:41 <Odaym> you worried about java being obsolete?
Oct 02 17:51:32 <Eplebit> programming is programming
Oct 02 17:51:44 <Eplebit> won't be wasted anyways
Oct 02 17:52:15 <Odaym> you'll probably quit programming before Java dies
Oct 02 17:52:19 <Odaym> :)
Oct 02 17:52:21 <Melatonina> I hope
Oct 02 17:52:22 <Melatonina> :D
Oct 02 17:53:17 <TacticalJoke> I think we'll all die before Java does.
Oct 02 17:54:10 <TacticalJoke> I don't mean that in a threatening way.
Oct 02 17:54:25 <Ashiren> well fortran is still used these days..
Oct 02 19:42:33 <sirgay> hi, how can I get an Intent when UsageStatsManager->UsageEvents have changed? i.e. a new UsageEvent happened
Oct 02 19:49:48 <MikeWallaceDev_> I need a suggestion here... My app creates a png and I'm currently testing transparency. This is not going well as most apps that I'm using to try to view the png are not good at showing the transparency. For example if the app has a black background then I'm not sure if I'm correctly creating a transparent png, or if I'm creating a black png!
Oct 02 19:49:48 <MikeWallaceDev_> I tried connecting a file browser to my phone and using Gimp, but for some inexplicable reason the browser can't see my new files. It does see older files that I created.
Oct 02 19:49:48 <MikeWallaceDev_> Any suggestions will be appreciated :-)
Oct 02 20:08:27 <Melatonina> The navigation items of a drawer layout should start a new activity or replace the content of the current activity with a specific fragment?
Oct 02 20:37:50 <skin1980> Hi Guys, i start an xml animation with a handler.postdelayed(myrunnable, 700) but the animation start twice... any thought?
Oct 02 21:08:24 <AL0R> hi all :)
Oct 02 21:08:28 <AL0R> is there anyone selling
Oct 02 21:08:33 <AL0R> android traffic? P)
Oct 02 21:39:06 <orbyt_> are there any popular bluetooth/ble third party libraries for working with bluetooth?
Oct 02 21:40:17 <g00s> orbyt_ lol
Oct 02 21:40:25 <orbyt_> ?
Oct 02 21:40:45 <g00s> everybody has been asking about those lately
Oct 02 21:40:51 <g00s> there is SweetBlue i think
Oct 02 21:41:02 <g00s> and one RxJava based one
Oct 02 21:42:02 <orbyt_> Yea i've seen a few smaller ones, was hoping there was a sort of defacto ble lib that everyone used
Oct 02 21:42:29 <bitkiller_> rxandroidble
Oct 02 21:42:52 <bitkiller_> not very popular
Oct 02 21:43:49 <bitkiller_> hmmm much more stars than the last time i checked it
Oct 02 21:48:12 <Melatonina> bitkiller_: do you use Firebase?
Oct 02 21:55:26 <bitkiller_> no
Oct 02 21:56:03 <Melatonina> nobody uses it
Oct 02 21:56:17 <bitkiller_> but i should use melatonina
Oct 02 21:56:43 <Melatonina> Can I ask you for what kind of application?
Oct 02 22:20:38 <bitkiller_> replace zolpidem
Oct 02 22:48:29 * capella-5x has gotten better @that
Oct 02 23:31:02 <orbyt_> Any tips on writing a module to wrap a bunch of bluetooth functionality?
Oct 02 23:31:26 <orbyt_> The biggest issue im running into is with Bluetooth everything is received through like a single callback
Oct 02 23:42:55 <dunkel2> hello guys
Oct 02 23:44:04 <dunkel2> im exporting an apk wich supposedly contains an android wear app, but when i install the release apk on my device, i dont get the wear app on my watch
Oct 02 23:44:24 <dunkel2> can you tell me if there is some special code i need to add?
Oct 03 00:33:44 <g00s> http://www.xda-developers.com/exploring-andromeda-a-look-at-the-challenges-awaiting-googles-next-voyage/
Oct 03 01:19:25 <orbyt_> anyone used electron by chance?
Oct 03 01:31:53 <homa_> hi my friends i'm back
Oct 03 01:32:29 <homa_> are there every body here?
Oct 03 01:54:58 <eghdk> I'm getting an SSL issue with okhttp/retrofit on android 4.x devices. Is there any way to set all cipher suites as enabled on an OkHttp client? I just want to see if my issue goes away.
Oct 03 02:57:46 <githubius> hi
Oct 03 02:58:05 <githubius> ActivityManager manager = ((ActivityManager) getApplicationContext().getSystemService(Context.ACTIVITY_SERVICE));
Oct 03 02:58:06 <githubius> manager.clearApplicationUserData();
Oct 03 02:58:14 <githubius> How do I emulate that for versions below KitKat?
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