**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 07 02:59:58 2016 Oct 07 03:05:58 does anyone here use ThreeTenABP? Oct 07 03:06:35 the documentation is awful Oct 07 03:47:13 can anyone help with http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39908964/threetenabp-not-parsing-date ? Oct 07 04:20:46 ThreeTen/ThreeTenABP has the worst documentation Oct 07 04:21:11 would it have killed them to write an example Oct 07 04:39:31 ok easier question Oct 07 04:39:39 let's say I have a LocalDateTime object Oct 07 04:39:46 How do i output it in this format "MMMM dd, yyyy \'at\' HH:mm a" ? Oct 07 05:12:04 wow its quiet today Oct 07 05:12:10 is it a public holiday in the US Oct 07 05:22:23 i would like to have an internal version of an android library and an external version of the same library, which is built on top of the internal library. can i 1) conditionally compile or not compile parts of the java codebase? 2) conditionally mark some classes/namespaces as internal? Oct 07 07:43:05 hey goise Oct 07 07:44:20 I'm using RetroFit for some requests Oct 07 07:45:31 I've provided the model of course, and this way is how I've done it since I've begun and if the model is correct it always works. Although if the model doesn't work the request reaches onFailure of course Oct 07 07:45:48 but I have no idea what went wrong, I just know that it's something to do with the model, how can I have it be more verbose? Oct 07 07:48:59 it seems that this is a start http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21886313/how-to-log-request-and-response-body-with-retrofit-android Oct 07 07:49:31 retrofit 1? Oct 07 07:49:44 2 Oct 07 07:49:54 ah well theres also retrofit 2 solution for logging Oct 07 07:50:01 yea down further Oct 07 07:50:05 you tried this before? Oct 07 07:50:20 because the last time I tried it I didnt figure it out, I don't setup the client like he does Oct 07 07:52:00 well, i do Oct 07 07:52:24 see now in the RestClient class I only have Retrofit object = ... Oct 07 07:52:28 no mention of OkHttp Oct 07 07:52:30 i add loggingInterceptor Oct 07 07:52:36 oh Oct 07 07:53:04 I'm adding them now Oct 07 07:53:25 ok, time for the universe to explode Oct 07 07:53:27 * Odaym runs Oct 07 07:54:05 and there's that crash Oct 07 07:54:20 aww Oct 07 07:54:33 same one from last time Oct 07 07:54:49 if the code pasting website would load, what do you use lately to paste code? Oct 07 07:54:51 pastie is dead Oct 07 07:55:03 http://paste.ofcode.org/gbqqUjXvYw49C7sWmdzDHD Oct 07 07:55:15 pastebin Oct 07 07:55:29 or gist github Oct 07 07:55:49 oO? Oct 07 07:55:53 do you use multidex Oct 07 07:56:13 no Oct 07 07:56:21 I don't even understand what it's saying Oct 07 07:56:28 it's not a complete sentence Oct 07 07:56:28 ok i googled it https://github.com/square/okhttp/issues/2839 Oct 07 07:57:03 sometimes when i reached 65k limit and didnt use multidex, the NoSuchMethod would appear Oct 07 07:57:25 need to use the same version for all of the OK dependencies? Oct 07 07:57:31 so is RetroFit considered an OK dependency? Oct 07 07:57:33 it seems so Oct 07 07:57:38 cause it's back at 2.x Oct 07 07:58:13 "Do not downgrade Retrofit. Upgrade OkHttp." Oct 07 07:58:15 ok Oct 07 07:58:33 i have this http://pastebin.com/raw/J0gyvs0A Oct 07 07:59:22 yea it's at 3.4.1 Oct 07 07:59:29 how do you get notified of new versions of things? Oct 07 08:00:30 i dont Oct 07 08:00:48 if i habe task "upgrade libraries and sdks" then i search manually Oct 07 08:00:55 i wonder if there is some tool for that Oct 07 08:01:20 it works Oct 07 08:01:28 definitely a versions issue Oct 07 08:01:29 thanks Oct 07 08:04:02 Somebody here experience with jenkins android builds. I've got an issue about accepting licenses... Oct 07 08:04:37 I have Jenkins running on my mac, but here I can copy the licences to the right directory but I'm wondering if there isn't another solution? Oct 07 08:06:26 not sure what you mean by licenses Oct 07 08:06:50 and for those reasons, I'm out Oct 07 08:09:07 accepting the android sdk licence when installing the android sdk Oct 07 08:16:52 What hosting service allow me to install and run the realm object server? What kind of service should I google for? Oct 07 08:47:25 Just looking for opinions to see how easy it is (not actually looking to do it yet) but is it relatively easy to overlay a screen over an existing activity? Oct 07 08:49:14 sdousley: maybe this can help you: http://www.piwai.info/chatheads-basics/ Oct 07 09:36:32 hello, using ACTION_VIEW Intent to open an Url outside an App, would FLAG_ACTIVITY_NEW_TASK restricts it opening inside App instead? Oct 07 09:38:33 Does Android Studio have a white plus icon that I can use in my fab button? Oct 07 09:39:40 use the material design icons if you don't have your own. Oct 07 09:40:27 Is that included or do I download it? Oct 07 09:41:52 download. https://design.google.com/icons/ Oct 07 09:42:29 Ah, thanks! Oct 07 09:42:52 no problem :) Oct 07 09:47:05 I put ic_add_white_24px in my drawable folder. And changed the src property of the fab button to R.drawable.ic_add_white_24px But it doesn't seem to be able to find it :| Oct 07 09:48:11 NDK update, 650MB, why Oct 07 09:48:57 Oh, maybe it only takes png's Oct 07 09:49:00 Kake_Fisk, there is a plugin for AS "material design icon", it's too useful Oct 07 09:49:21 I could try. Thanks for the tip :) Oct 07 09:49:53 https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/7647?pr= < Oct 07 09:51:07 Kake_Fisk, if you put your icon in drawable folder out of AS scope (but from your OS filebrowser for example), sometimes you have to refresh the drawable folder (right-click synchroni...) Oct 07 09:51:32 yeah. It did show up in the project view Oct 07 09:51:42 What hosting service allows me to install and run the Realm Object Server? What kind of service should I google for? Oct 07 09:51:56 sorry I was busy. I'm glad you figured it out. Oct 07 09:54:45 Odd that Android does not support svg. Oct 07 09:55:11 Kake_Fisk: you have to import SVG to a VectorDrawable Oct 07 09:55:22 Ah, okay :) Oct 07 09:55:35 yes, it's odd given the wide variety of screens resolutions and formats Oct 07 09:56:36 Android seems to be adding new features at a very fast pace. So it might be better support eventually Oct 07 09:57:03 When I take a year's brake from android dev, it's always so different when I come back :p Oct 07 09:58:14 And their lovely names for things. Toast and Snackbar Oct 07 09:59:42 Always food Oct 07 09:59:43 or when they introduce thing and next version it gets deprecated Oct 07 10:01:13 Ah, haven't experienced that yet Oct 07 10:01:22 good for you Oct 07 10:01:27 I guess ^^ Oct 07 10:02:27 Isn't this preference activity useless? Oct 07 10:03:15 Its adding one more tap for reaching out the settings. Old one was better i think. Can't i just create a one page settings activity with prefrenceActivity Oct 07 10:09:45 If I want to send a PM to a random user, what would be a nice way to ask for the username when the new pm button is clicked? A bar appearing at the top bottom or maybe a input dialog box? Oct 07 10:11:54 uploading a web API to a hosting service is painfully slow on an ADSL connection Oct 07 10:12:21 Kake_Fisk: what's a PM? Oct 07 10:12:28 private message Oct 07 10:12:45 are you making a messaging application? Oct 07 10:12:45 like /msg in IRC Oct 07 10:12:55 Ok, it was a bit out of the blue Oct 07 10:12:58 contextless Oct 07 10:13:12 a dialog box, I guess Oct 07 10:13:17 Yeah, okay :) Oct 07 10:14:10 are you the one working on the messaging app based on Firebase? Oct 07 10:15:06 yeah Oct 07 10:26:48 hello Oct 07 10:26:49 Hello Oct 07 10:27:03 i have a strange bug... a blue bar appears on top Oct 07 10:27:24 hehe Oct 07 10:27:27 Everything functions perfectly in android for a few days on my samsung phone until sundunly, after a few days, a blue bar appears on top when launching the app (instead of a black bar normaly, As a consequence, the camera does not function anymore for instance. Oct 07 10:27:56 This does not happen for other beta tester using other phone brands as Wiko for instance. It only happens with samsung phone (two cases so far). Oct 07 10:28:02 Reseting the phone to the factory original settings doesn't change anything. Oct 07 10:28:30 franck__: hello. Are you sure that's a question for #android-dev and not for #android? Oct 07 10:29:01 yeah.. because i'm developping a software on Android Oct 07 10:29:15 this is the blue bar : http://i.stack.imgur.com/QP8pd.png Oct 07 10:29:37 nice girl Oct 07 10:29:53 yeah. Oct 07 10:29:55 Now everone is going to have a look. Oct 07 10:30:11 guys, she's completely naked! Oct 07 10:30:17 kikiki Oct 07 10:30:22 So the important part is that if I change the android "package id" of the app, then everything functions well again... until the bar comes back again a few days later... (without changing the code, i.e. with the same exact build...) Oct 07 10:31:12 franck__: sorry, I have no idea. Strange bug indeed Oct 07 10:31:18 I'm getting mad Oct 07 10:31:49 How are you doing Melatonina ? Oct 07 10:32:00 franck__: don't smash your device Oct 07 10:32:52 NeoFrontier: I'm trying to learn how use an ASP.NET hosting service to host the backend of my Android app Oct 07 10:33:20 Oh, i've never done something like that. Oct 07 10:34:49 NeoFrontier: I wanted to try Realm but I can't understand what kind of hosting service will allow my to install and run the Realm Object Server. I'm going to try SQL Server + SqlTableDependency + SignalR Oct 07 10:35:47 I think my kind of application requires a server anyway Oct 07 10:36:00 I mean an application server layer Oct 07 10:36:12 If you tell me more about the application i'd perhaps know. Oct 07 10:36:13 :) Oct 07 10:36:37 maybe https://realm.io/products/realm-mobile-platform/ Oct 07 10:50:46 Ashiren: that's where I leaned about the Real object server (Realm Mobile Platform = Realm Database + Realm Object Server). They don't provide hosting and anyway you could need to integrate Realm Object Server with other software. Re-reading the page, I saw they say that Realm Object Server "can be deployed on-premises or in the public cloud (like AWS, Azure, and other popular options)". So I have to learn about AWS and Azure. Azure would be Oct 07 10:50:46 ok since I planned to use ASP.NET too and SQL Server too. Oct 07 11:03:51 hi Oct 07 11:04:15 I only see one column - https://github.com/codepath/android_guides/wiki/Using-an-ArrayAdapter-with-ListView#using-a-custom-arrayadapter - Should I switch to a GridView or something? Oct 07 11:06:35 hithere Oct 07 11:07:17 I'm using the anjlab inapp billing lib and I have an issue where onBillingInitialized isn't called, and one person meantioned "Yes, but I've added the Google play services rules and the rules mentioned Oct 07 11:07:18 in the other issues on here." anyone got a clue on what those "rules" are? And how do I add them to my pro-guard? Oct 07 11:08:28 I have app in closed alpha channel - I know that some of group testers have app installed ( at least me) - but in dev console are no stats relating ie number of installed apps Oct 07 11:08:53 trying to search whether is this available for alpha version or not, but no success so far Oct 07 11:10:31 there are no such stats in the dev console afaik Oct 07 11:15:10 adq, interesting - btw r u using a/b chanels to test apps? Oct 07 11:15:31 nope Oct 07 11:15:46 I am wondering how dev can find outh that something is wrong in that test group... Oct 07 11:18:01 Do I need to import compile 'com.google.android.gms:play-services:9.6.1' in order to have IAP working? Oct 07 11:19:01 IAP? Oct 07 11:19:08 IAB he meant, and yes Oct 07 11:19:51 what's IAB? Oct 07 11:20:47 in app billing Oct 07 11:21:01 oh thought it was called IAP. Well okey and thanks!:) Oct 07 11:21:51 thanks Oct 07 11:21:54 in-app payment :v Oct 07 11:21:56 wait, my bad, you don't need to com.google.android.gms:play-services:9.6.1 Oct 07 11:22:52 adq, oh bugger. I thought it might've been what was missing. :& Oct 07 11:23:27 adq, do you know of any pro-guard rules I have to include? I'm missing something vital since it won't even initialize Oct 07 11:23:59 try first to make it work with proguard disabled, so you can know where the issue doesn't come from Oct 07 11:24:52 adq, okey. Simply delete the pro-guard file to disable? Oct 07 11:25:01 no, disable minify in your build.gradle Oct 07 11:25:28 it is already set to false actually Oct 07 11:27:02 maybe contact the developer of the lib you're using Oct 07 11:27:09 or understand what you are doing Oct 07 11:27:30 My ListView only shows one row. Hmm actually is my nested overdone? - If yes, how should I solve this? - `CoordinatorLayout -> {AppBarLayout, ProgressBar, include, FloatingActionButton} -> include -> NestedScrollView -> ViewSwitcher -> {RelativeLayout -> TextView, RelativeLayout -> ListView}` Oct 07 11:30:32 *nesting Oct 07 11:32:22 i am making a game that uses Google Play Games Services. The player is signed in via Play Games. Is it possible to authenticate the user to Firebase using this already existing PlayGames-user ? Oct 07 11:45:28 hi Oct 07 11:46:04 do you know how to use the libogg and libvorbis libraries with an Android NDK application (I am porting an SDL game) using CMake Oct 07 11:47:35 kroot , hi Oct 07 11:48:21 pfn: are you awake? Oct 07 11:48:33 no one is awake here Oct 07 11:48:39 no one will ever reply Oct 07 11:48:48 sweet! Oct 07 11:48:53 good you asked about ndk Oct 07 11:49:37 https://github.com/vincentjames501/libvorbis-libogg-android Oct 07 11:49:39 btw Oct 07 11:50:37 thepoosh , does that support c++ ? And how to include it in the Android.mk Oct 07 11:50:46 did you read any of it? Oct 07 11:50:55 because it seems to have instructions Oct 07 11:51:01 yes Oct 07 11:51:11 seems to be a jni wrapper Oct 07 11:51:33 maybe i'll just copy the native code and include it my CMake file Oct 07 12:04:16 Is that iab library from google containing IabException, IabHelper, Purchase classes etc still valid and up to date to use? Or is it recommended to use the later Version 3 implementation? Oct 07 12:08:44 Bernzel, use V3 Oct 07 12:09:49 Bernzel, https://github.com/googlesamples/android-play-billing/ this is the official example by the way (not saying it's perfect) Oct 07 12:17:08 adq, and the actual example you refer to is this doc: https://github.com/googlesamples/android-play-billing/blob/master/TrivialDrive/app/src/main/java/com/example/android/trivialdrivesample/MainActivity.java ? Oct 07 12:18:11 I refer to the whole project, this is just the activity, most of the logic is inside IabHelper.java Oct 07 12:18:11 Cause that example demostrates the using of those physical classes , will V3 is compiled from gradle and has a completely different "syntax" when implementing Oct 07 12:18:16 ah okey Oct 07 12:18:19 thanks Oct 07 12:18:34 they are all tight to the aidl Oct 07 12:18:57 https://github.com/googlesamples/android-play-billing/blob/master/TrivialDrive/app/src/main/aidl/com/android/vending/billing/IInAppBillingService.aidl Oct 07 12:19:17 Bernzel, https://developer.android.com/google/play/billing/index.html you really need to read everything, multiple times Oct 07 12:19:53 yes I can see that now. Oh yes man, I always assume Google leaves out 30% of the required information. Oct 07 12:22:25 basically I should be able to snatch a lot of methods from IabHelper, with minor modifications as I see it Oct 07 12:23:10 it's not that trivial (no pun) Oct 07 12:23:27 there are many issues not fixed since years too (like multi-account proper support) Oct 07 12:27:20 adq, yes I can imagine. Oct 07 12:33:37 hello, i have an app which has one activity and a service. the service itself get started with the boot completed receiver. Now i would like to update the package using pm install (rooted device) which works well, but the default activity is not started after. Any idea how to use the pm install command and start the package after installing? and yes, there is am start .. but is it possible during the update process? Oct 07 12:34:25 misterli , you need to start your activity using the "am" command Oct 07 12:34:44 okay, that means that its not possible using the pm install command without waiting and using am start after. Oct 07 12:38:04 eeyup Oct 07 12:38:28 The whole updateflow is craped in this case since i have to create another apk which download, install, start, the primary app need to validate if the second installer app is installed and remove it. Oct 07 13:45:02 One thing I still can never get right is importing/ opening the demos on dev.android.com Oct 07 13:45:33 i am looking at https://developer.android.com/training/implementing-navigation/index.html right now and android 2.2 does not seem to import it right Oct 07 13:45:57 open it up correct , nada. what should I do ? Assuming I am not doing it correctly Oct 07 13:46:37 what I do is open the zip , drop it into a dev folder and then import and build and errors everywhere Oct 07 13:47:15 last time I just made a new project and just copied the files I needed and adjusted the manifest. but thats the long way Oct 07 13:55:16 Yeah, the zips are basically outdated.. Copy it to an existing project Oct 07 14:24:16 hi Oct 07 14:24:27 how can I use the OpenAL library on Android Oct 07 14:26:59 Suici: hi!!!! Oct 07 14:27:05 hi Oct 07 14:27:07 Suici: http://pielot.org/2010/12/openal-on-android/ Oct 07 14:28:03 instead of NDK build i am using CMake Oct 07 14:43:30 hey guys, what is the recommend approach when I want to have a view beneath a scrolling recyclerview. In this case its a button Oct 07 14:43:48 i am thinking I can leverage viewtype here so the last cell is the button. wanted to see if there was a better wayy Oct 07 14:46:55 what do you mean? Oct 07 14:47:15 beneath as in z-order? Oct 07 14:47:39 or beneath along the y axis? Oct 07 14:48:51 Y Oct 07 14:49:08 what's the problem? Oct 07 14:49:10 basically, i just want to have a button the user sees when the scroll to the end of the recyclerview Oct 07 14:49:17 i tried using a nestedscrollview around the recyclerview Oct 07 14:49:22 and the scrolling was not smooth Oct 07 14:49:34 what's inside the recycler view? Oct 07 14:49:45 Standard Cells Oct 07 14:49:51 with text and a circle profile image Oct 07 14:50:29 so you want to have lots of items and then a button in the end? Oct 07 14:50:39 yes. Dont ask, our Designer is a bit weird Oct 07 14:50:41 doesn't the v3 iab need my developer key when creating the instance? I can't find anything in the docs about it Oct 07 14:51:23 there is a way that is less ugly than anything else but it's a bit costly Oct 07 14:51:32 do you want me to describe it? Oct 07 14:51:36 well i think the best way, and I have told him is Oct 07 14:51:41 add a third tab for the archived items Oct 07 14:51:56 instead of this silly button approach, he didnt agree Oct 07 14:52:10 but by all means describe what you are thinking Oct 07 14:52:38 tell him there is a lot of people now on IRC that thinks he's not very smart Oct 07 14:52:46 he wont care :) Oct 07 14:53:01 ok suppose your data item is of class MyItem Oct 07 14:53:23 then you make another class MyButtonItem Oct 07 14:53:34 and make both of them derive from MyAbstractItem Oct 07 14:53:57 now the items in your recycler view are of type MyAbstractItem Oct 07 14:54:03 (you will use other names) Oct 07 14:54:11 at present you are describing my current solution Oct 07 14:54:12 :) Oct 07 14:55:15 then you make layout of the item so that it contains the layout of the normal item and a button Oct 07 14:55:56 when you bind the view to the item, depending on the actual class of the item, you hide the button and show the rest or hide the rest and show the button Oct 07 14:56:20 respectively in case of MyItem or MyButtonItem Oct 07 14:56:28 yeah, that is what i was thinking of doing, more or less Oct 07 14:56:43 it sucks, consumes more memory but it's decent Oct 07 14:56:58 right, i am talking with right now, again :) Oct 07 15:02:18 So, a few days are over, what's the opinion on round icons now? Oct 07 15:02:28 Anyone already chosen a side? Oct 07 15:03:43 Melatonina: potential victory Oct 07 15:03:54 he is considering moving to the action bar Oct 07 15:13:32 lol justJanne :') Oct 07 15:13:48 another proof of nothing is set in stone Oct 07 15:14:19 to not say a serious lack of vision (because vision is not about having round or square or rounded square icon or transpa or ...) Oct 07 15:18:22 anyone know where I should initialize my Developer Key in the V3 of iab? I see the IabHelper takes that key in it's constructor, but since I'm using V3 I only use the ServiceConnection and IInAppBillingService Oct 07 15:18:40 I'm not creating an IabHelper manually Oct 07 15:22:58 adq sounds like i missed an interesting conversation :( Oct 07 15:23:16 Bernzel, not sure what you meant, but the key is basically used to generate a local public key which will be used to verify signed data later on Oct 07 15:24:00 Hi, I create a new project, and choose API 24, however, I'm getting lots of style errors in Gradle Build. The Project consists of one main Activity generated by the template chooser in new Android project. Oct 07 15:24:16 g00s, no you did not Oct 07 15:24:21 adq, in the previous version you signed it like this: mHelper = new IabHelper(this, base64EncodedPublicKey); , but I find no place for initialization with the base64 key Oct 07 15:24:37 Bernzel, why not following the code then? Oct 07 15:24:41 you would end-up here: https://github.com/googlesamples/android-play-billing/blob/master/TrivialDrive/app/src/main/java/com/example/android/trivialdrivesample/util/Security.java#L55 Oct 07 15:24:50 (which is used to verify purchase) Oct 07 15:25:32 "Google confirms that Verizon will handle system updates for Pixels" llloolll Oct 07 15:25:44 oh saw this one earlier g00s, i lol'ed too Oct 07 15:28:05 g00s: yeah when I heard the Pixel was on Verizon i had an inkling i might stay Oct 07 15:28:08 that killed it Oct 07 15:28:32 Ive literally told Verizon, your service is amazing and i love the customer care but, 2yrs to get an Android update is not acceptable Oct 07 15:28:34 Im going to Fi Oct 07 15:29:19 What to do for API 24 to get it working :) ? Oct 07 15:30:13 what ? Oct 07 15:30:23 gnu_d, no idea, usually ppl provide more info to increase their chances to get help, like errors, stacktraces, whatever Oct 07 15:32:22 Using Android studio 2.1.2 on Ubuntu 14.04; Global java is 1.7, but in project structure 1.8 is chosen. I got API 24 downloaded and set on a new project wizard. Tried to remove the layout, theme and stuff like that, didn't helped. Oct 07 15:33:45 well if you have 1.7 installed why would you set it to 1.8 lol Oct 07 15:33:46 gnu_d, maybe start with a very simple example from "new project" in AS, it should guide you, take one of the minimalist samples Oct 07 15:34:30 adq: I did, it fails on clean project Oct 07 15:34:42 Mavrik around ? Oct 07 15:34:43 then complain to google Oct 07 15:34:44 :p Oct 07 15:34:59 they're not even able to provide working samples now it seems Oct 07 15:36:08 man android development is about to get much more expensive Oct 07 15:36:18 no more stock devices, shit costing way too much Oct 07 15:36:28 actually want AOSP without all the extra google shit Oct 07 15:36:48 anyone know if nvidia is coming out with a new shield ? Oct 07 15:37:38 and from what i understand, you won't even be able to to test on 7.1 unless you have a proper Pixel device Oct 07 15:37:49 google pulled this shit with Android 4.0, fucking idiots Oct 07 15:38:04 and what do people think about android 4. 0 ? Oct 07 15:38:09 we all hoped to forget about it Oct 07 15:39:54 i wonder if there will be a 7.1 emulator image Oct 07 15:41:13 and what happens to Android One ? Oct 07 15:41:25 lol Oct 07 15:41:46 as a developer i should be able to buy those things Oct 07 15:43:02 i think it makes sense to buy for testing what most ppl are using, aka shitty phones Oct 07 15:43:14 and samsung for heisenbugs debugging Oct 07 15:45:20 g00s: you mean 3.0 Oct 07 15:45:26 4.0 was open, Oct 07 15:45:33 Honeycomb was that shit Oct 07 15:46:50 oh ya Oct 07 15:49:24 g00s: I just ordered a 5x Oct 07 15:49:42 Because it becomes impossible to test Android apps on my device Oct 07 15:49:56 Will arrive tomorrow morning, thanks to free amazon shipping Oct 07 15:50:42 slap cm on it Oct 07 15:50:54 No Oct 07 15:51:10 justJanne, don't you use genymotion? Oct 07 15:51:43 capella-5x, i would slap copperhead OS on it Oct 07 15:51:47 why not CM? Maintain pure state for testing? Oct 07 15:51:56 adq, So I wont need my developer key to initialize Google Play Store? Only to verify purchases? Oct 07 15:51:58 oh, ninja'd 😜 Oct 07 15:52:00 some ppl dislike CM Oct 07 15:52:19 oic it's been good to me Oct 07 15:52:26 Bernzel, what do you mean by "initialize google play store"?????? Oct 07 15:52:38 and already answered you about where this base64 pub key is needed Oct 07 15:55:35 hey does anyone know a good example of appBar with icons and menus ? Oct 07 15:55:52 looking at https://developer.android.com/training/appbar/setting-up.html is sending me down strange paths Oct 07 15:56:28 something like this maybe: https://lab.getbase.com/introduction-to-coordinator-layout-on-android/ Oct 07 15:57:05 nevermind, that doesnt talk about the toolbar Oct 07 15:57:21 but that does look cool to me ... I should learn that too Oct 07 16:00:00 dar10s, https://guides.codepath.com/android/Using-the-App-ToolBar Oct 07 16:00:05 dar10s: are you talking just a straight toolbar? Oct 07 16:00:08 this should help you, favor Toolbar instead of Actionbar too Oct 07 16:05:20 whoa ... I was thinking they were the same. a Toolbar is not an Action bar? I thought a tool bar was the action bar when it was being scrolled or something Oct 07 16:05:34 replacement Oct 07 16:05:51 toolbar replaces the actionbar, allows the AB to not necessarily be anchored to the top Oct 07 16:05:56 moving forward it is the control to be sed Oct 07 16:05:58 *used Oct 07 16:08:03 FloatingToolbar... nice... use it for context menus or textSelection Oct 07 16:08:28 replaces is probably the wrong word Oct 07 16:08:57 see that is the hardest thing being new to Droid dev, I should have started in '08. It would have been an easy transition was an LinuxAdmin around then Oct 07 16:09:26 i only know this because i just built my first Droid app ini 2yrs and had to go through the same learning pains Oct 07 16:09:49 if I don't always say it "ya'll here are the best on this irc room, big thanks!" Oct 07 16:10:12 Hey guys any ideas on this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39911787/stacked-notifications-not-working-on-closed-app I am using firebase for push notifications if the app is open then my notifications stack otherwise they do not Oct 07 16:10:58 dar10s its the same with any big framework Oct 07 16:11:27 takes time to learn nd be familiarized with its toolset Oct 07 16:20:40 Anyone use firebase for push notifications? Oct 07 16:21:21 because stacking is handled by your app, while notification messages are handled by firebase while your app is closed Oct 07 16:22:45 So does firebase not stack them or do I have to somehow tell firebase as well to stack them? Oct 07 16:23:13 * pfn shrugs Oct 07 16:23:19 I assume firebase doesn't stack and doesn't know how Oct 07 16:24:01 So how do people stack notifications on android there has to be a way? Oct 07 16:24:10 use a data message and stack it yourself Oct 07 16:24:44 I do use a data message and I have code that stacks it but only if the app isnt completely closed Oct 07 16:24:55 Otherwise it does not seem to be effected at all Oct 07 16:25:08 data messages aren't handled by firebase Oct 07 16:25:21 sounds like a bug in your app then Oct 07 16:26:23 @pfn my code is here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39911787/stacked-notifications-not-working-on-closed-app Oct 07 16:26:51 What bug could there be, because it is hard to tell since it does work when the app is opened, when it is closed I cannot log it Oct 07 16:27:03 wow i know that feeling all too well Oct 07 16:27:11 never did get push notifications to work properly when the app is closed Oct 07 16:27:18 the way you post the notification doesn't run Oct 07 16:27:33 * pfn shrugs Oct 07 16:28:07 Not sure I understand that @pfn ... : / @xximjasonxx what di you end up doing? Oct 07 16:28:16 its on hold Oct 07 16:28:40 we have the notifications working when the app is open but, we didnt have as much luck when it was closed Oct 07 16:28:54 even when you switched to data notifications? Oct 07 16:28:58 so, timeline being a thing, we left it as it is, and moved on to other areas that needed more attention Oct 07 16:29:31 pfn: In my case, I did not have the option to switch to data notifications as my understanding is they are a part of Firebase Oct 07 16:29:38 wut Oct 07 16:29:38 and we are unable to use Firebase at this time Oct 07 16:29:47 firebase and gcm are the same thing Oct 07 16:30:05 data notifications also exist in gcm, or should Oct 07 16:30:09 https://developers.google.com/cloud-messaging/concept-options Oct 07 16:30:12 from my reading, they use the same infrastructure, but they do send different the data in different formats Oct 07 16:30:14 has nothing to do with firebase Oct 07 16:30:16 false Oct 07 16:30:18 anyway, focus on Lonesoldier728 for now Oct 07 16:30:29 my problems are not relevant in this dicussion Oct 07 16:30:30 I am using data notifications this is an example pay load http://pastebin.com/XRaDkDib Oct 07 16:30:54 then the part of your app that bundles notifications doesn't run when your app is closed Oct 07 16:30:56 make it so that it does Oct 07 16:31:00 e.g. acquire a wakelock, etc. Oct 07 16:31:18 and that's a notification message Oct 07 16:31:21 Hm ok, how do I go about applying that any examples floating around anywhere? Oct 07 16:33:52 https://developers.google.com/cloud-messaging/concept-options Oct 07 16:43:33 ok thanks, one other thing, is when keyboard pops up in my chat view - I cannot get adjustresize any suggestions, I wrapped my whole view in a scroll view and adjustresize just disappears the view it pushes the bottom to far up Oct 07 16:58:52 hmm, what do I need to include to be able to use getSystemService()? Oct 07 16:59:00 or how can I find that out? Oct 07 16:59:47 i'm starting to thing that storage access framework (SAF) is becoming antithetical towards google's goals of increased lock-in. i'm betting they would rather you use GMS Google Drive APIs Oct 07 16:59:51 *think Oct 07 17:00:35 i can’t possibly imagine why :p Oct 07 17:01:12 i can imagine in android 4, engineer says "we should have API that lets anyone save stuff to any cloud service" Oct 07 17:01:29 well technically that part seems to still work Oct 07 17:01:51 but if GDrive doesn't implement the whole API, and dropbox doesn't implement any of it, what good is it ? Oct 07 17:02:16 same thing with sharing stuff to social media Oct 07 17:02:28 Facebook doesn’t do it, so most have to do something special for that Oct 07 17:02:39 i'm assuming the box.net thing actually works, i haven't even tried that one yet Oct 07 17:06:31 oh i guess i should try microsoft Oct 07 17:07:14 oh man i think i need to install 'office for android' Oct 07 17:07:48 MS has done a good job with android of late; largely it's developed out-house by acquired companies, but they actually did adopt material, etc. They did a good job. Oct 07 17:08:22 I am creating an app in Qt Creator, it creates an apk thats for armeabi-v7a, now if I publish such an apk on google play, will only such devices be able to search it? Oct 07 17:09:17 Anyone know why if I wrap everything in a scrollview and call adjustResize for my chat view everything moves way too up Oct 07 17:13:40 rxjava 2 rc4 Oct 07 17:14:35