**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 31 03:00:01 2016 Oct 31 03:25:45 killer, lets see the rest of your layout. Oct 31 03:27:39 It's just the basic app_bar_main.xml , if you click on create new navigationbar layout on new project , http://pastebin.com/LKWYmsTj Oct 31 03:43:36 hello, could anyone recommend a library with a compact date picker? eveything I see so far is quite hefty in size. including 3rd party libs Oct 31 03:43:52 ideally something that looks material design-y Oct 31 03:44:34 and it's free and easy to use Oct 31 03:44:51 and has a small memory footprint Oct 31 03:45:02 and it's fast and well documented Oct 31 03:45:17 and well-tested Oct 31 03:45:34 and works with the Maya calendar too Oct 31 03:46:18 Melatonina, @ me? I think I missed a line with the actual suggestion. Could you resend? Oct 31 03:46:36 I wish I knew Oct 31 03:46:43 ah nevermind. Oct 31 03:46:54 sorry I wasnt sure if you were talking to me or not Oct 31 03:47:17 did you have a look at the Arsenal? Oct 31 03:48:05 https://android-arsenal.com/details/1/3779 Oct 31 03:48:45 https://android-arsenal.com/details/1/3436 Oct 31 03:48:55 oionby: did you check those ones? Oct 31 03:49:40 Melatonina, Ah I forgot about arsenal. I'll take a look Thanks! Oct 31 04:02:25 is it okay to ask for help with bugs in here? Oct 31 04:02:29 or is that another channel? Oct 31 04:03:20 bioemerl try #insects Oct 31 04:03:34 I'm going to assume that's a "yes" Oct 31 04:03:52 and those sorts of bugs are easy to deal with Oct 31 04:04:41 I've got a situation where if I start my app through "share" it will stop creating new activities. No errors, and the timeline shows that a creation was requested, but it doesn't actually do anything. I thought it was RAM, but looking at the monitor shows that it's not using that much. Oct 31 04:05:51 the one thing I can think of that might be causing issues is that, to prevent the app starting as part of the thing that opened it, I immidiately start a new activity using the one that "sharing" passes the image to, and finalizing the activity that opened the new activity Oct 31 04:06:26 is there something obvious I'm missing somewhere? Oct 31 04:14:48 bioemerl pretty sure when share intent is received, a new task is created ... google it Oct 31 04:15:36 I don't need google because I had a file explorer, I shared the image with my app, and it started my app "within" the file explorer Oct 31 04:15:54 to prevent that I had it start a new activity as a new task, and that fixed the problem, but I think that's the source of my current issues Oct 31 04:16:16 using the flag "new task" or something like that Oct 31 04:17:29 well, I can create a new activity once, but after that I can't create a new activity again. So it's kind of Explorer -> my app - > activity of my app - > stops making new activities with no bugs and a request to make a new activity Oct 31 04:18:03 and it works fine when it isn't shared, unless it's a bug I've only run into when using shared images for some reason Oct 31 04:21:05 I don't know, it's a really really weird thing that only happens sometimes Oct 31 04:48:40 well, I may have fixed it by setting the manifest adroid:lauchMode for my "main activity" that the app always starts from as single task. I don't know why that fixed it, or even if it did, but it's a start? Oct 31 04:49:29 I don't know, I figure this way is less hacky-feeling so maybe whatever is acting weird won't anymore. Oct 31 04:49:34 cya all later Oct 31 04:52:59 knock knock Oct 31 04:53:04 anyone up Oct 31 05:02:45 no, ssshhh Oct 31 05:16:07 k, I want to use a viewflipper. The view flipper will be inside a cardview, this cardview is common through my application so I have it created in XML. I don't need to change anything about it other than through xml. How do I make the cardview I created only in xml the rootview for other views? Oct 31 05:17:15 I want to use 1 cardview as the root for each of hmm... Oct 31 05:17:39 I just realized something else I can do, just make a cardview wrap the viewflipper. Oct 31 05:18:17 But, I do want to use the same cardview over and over... How could I go about doing that? I could make a class file for it, but as of now I don't need any runtime adjustments. Oct 31 05:26:28 Hi Oct 31 05:28:23 I am using retrofit. At 404 response, I send a string from server but on 200 response, I send an object (json nested object). The apiservices class needs a fixed object.e.g Call or Call> So what to do? Oct 31 05:34:18 404 is an error Oct 31 05:34:49 Just return the object that can parse the json Oct 31 05:56:10 Anyone know how to stop android studio doing this: public void dispose() { Oct 31 05:56:10 button.dispose(); Oct 31 05:56:10 } Oct 31 05:56:27 That didn't work... It randomly sticks everything on the same line. Oct 31 05:56:36 I want it to keep ^ over 3 lines Oct 31 05:57:05 folding? Oct 31 05:57:59 Not sure what it is. Sometimes I'll restant Studio and something like x { \n stuff \n } turns into x { stuff } Oct 31 05:58:40 find 'code folding' in the settings and disable it Oct 31 05:58:56 Awesome thanks Oct 31 06:20:17 PixelPerfect: I need to pass a text message to user. How can I do that in 404? Oct 31 07:33:37 Is it better practice to create the fragments for tabs when they are selected or when creating the hosting Activity? Oct 31 07:39:08 how many of them are there? Oct 31 07:39:41 generally 3 fragments are created and in memory - 1 visible and 2 adjacents Oct 31 07:44:42 4 tabs Oct 31 07:44:50 But more fragments, since some of the tabs have subfragments Oct 31 07:46:04 so 4 fragments, i wouldnt count the subfragments, they are part of the bigger fragment Oct 31 07:46:56 creating all fragments at once will result in more loading time. depends how heave are all the fragments Oct 31 07:47:05 if you can afford that, then go ahead Oct 31 07:47:09 at the moment I create all of them at the start, but the start is really slow Oct 31 07:47:49 well if you start, then only visible fragment and the right one is created Oct 31 07:50:09 so load only those 2 and see if theres significant improvement Oct 31 07:50:25 I do createTab for all 3 tabs Oct 31 07:52:18 all 4* Oct 31 07:52:36 but you use viewpager and its adapter? Oct 31 07:52:57 and its setOffscreenPageLimit() :? Oct 31 08:07:23 Ashiren: No, I don't use either Oct 31 08:07:58 huh Oct 31 08:10:34 I use ActionBar#addTab Oct 31 08:16:11 thats kinda deprecated isnt it Oct 31 08:19:04 Not on Android 17 Oct 31 08:26:02 Hi, I looked for a while and couldn't find a way - is there a way to flash flashable zips with the android emulator? the official one, not genymotion or other alternatives Oct 31 08:31:16 Can the NDK's ndk-build build a compiled binary with the linux headers I have on an Ubuntu machine? The code I'm trying to compile seems to have an include different from what the NDK's platform sources hold. Oct 31 08:51:48 fragile: Should be possible. Oct 31 08:52:05 Which include are you having trouble with? Oct 31 08:52:34 Oct 31 08:52:53 I've noticed some definitions are in linux/capability.h, but not all of them. Oct 31 09:05:28 barq: I bit the bullet and just did a bunch of messy renaming and copy/pasting to get it to compile alright. But a cleaner solution akin to just pointing it in the right direction would be very much appreciated still Oct 31 09:07:51 I haven't had problems with that specific header, but have with others Oct 31 09:35:29 I have a horizontal LinearLayout with a TextEdit inside with the width set to wrap_content. All works ok till I enter too much text, then it becomes wider and wider till it goes outside the right margin of the screen and continues growing past the right screen margin. I can't even scroll there, since view width is too large. Is there a way to limit a widget not to go outside the bounds of a LinearLayout? Oct 31 09:41:24 Hey hi , what's poppin guys i have a service and sometimes it restarts on its own even if its STICKY so i temporarely wanna store some data if service restarts what should i use to store data Preferences or Sqlite ? Oct 31 10:01:01 Hi all I have a question about padding vs margin android:paddingLeft="16dp" android:paddingRight="16dp VS android:paddingEnd="16dp" android:paddingStart="16dp" how these two are different? i been playing around with my layouts and I don't see any difference between these two Oct 31 10:02:59 droidace: end and start are for RTL Oct 31 10:04:12 thanks thepoosh. but why use RTL? Oct 31 10:04:51 because arabic, hebrew and some more languages are RTL Oct 31 10:05:02 RTL is the devil Oct 31 10:05:06 and hi thepoosh Oct 31 10:05:40 raoul11: RTL is your mother fucking tongue language Oct 31 10:06:10 ya, but as an ex webdev and a pretty shitty androiddev, i effin h8 it Oct 31 10:06:32 looooool Oct 31 10:06:39 thanks thepoosh Oct 31 10:07:08 raoul11: I get you :( Oct 31 10:07:15 also hate RTL Oct 31 10:07:23 yet we support both hebrew and arabic :( Oct 31 10:07:42 i can feel your pain brother Oct 31 10:07:44 arabic is for terrorists and good hummus Oct 31 10:08:00 razist Oct 31 10:08:19 Leeds: you're forgetting of course tehina and coffee Oct 31 10:08:47 don't forget prepending 'democratic' before 'terrorists' Oct 31 10:09:01 democratic republic Oct 31 10:09:07 thepoosh: I prefer tea, but you're right about the tehina Oct 31 10:09:11 democratic child beheaders Oct 31 10:09:18 like that Oct 31 10:14:55 who would prefer tea over coffee?! Oct 31 10:15:00 what's wrong with you?! Oct 31 10:16:06 thepoosh: when your event starts Oct 31 10:16:11 was it Tuesday? Oct 31 10:16:29 Monday Oct 31 10:16:32 7th Oct 31 10:16:37 thepoosh: I *am* English, you know... Oct 31 10:16:43 hmmm... Oct 31 10:16:45 no I mean that firebase speech Oct 31 10:16:48 no cure for that Oct 31 10:16:55 Nov 7th Oct 31 10:16:58 next monday Oct 31 10:17:13 you prepared Oct 31 10:17:18 sort of Oct 31 10:17:21 ok Oct 31 10:17:24 missing some images Oct 31 10:17:34 don't let me down Oct 31 10:17:41 are you gonna watch? Oct 31 10:18:07 if I don't forget and time matches Oct 31 10:18:31 12:00-12:30 Oct 31 10:18:39 in where? Oct 31 10:18:43 might be night here :) Oct 31 10:18:50 germany Oct 31 10:18:55 so GMT+1 Oct 31 10:19:11 then its cool Oct 31 10:19:25 yay! Oct 31 10:19:41 is it possible to watch? Oct 31 10:19:51 live stream on youtube Oct 31 10:20:11 thepoosh: make sure to reask about AB testing... Oct 31 10:20:23 sure thing Oct 31 10:20:24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-03R4Fj79_E Oct 31 10:20:29 raoul11: the answer is gonna be Oct 31 10:20:34 bigquery? Oct 31 10:20:35 "do you have an account manager?" Oct 31 10:20:43 \: Oct 31 10:20:58 if you happen to see fontain there, tell her i miss her Oct 31 10:21:04 that answer was so priceless Oct 31 10:21:07 thepoosh: hire model girl to present slides Oct 31 10:21:19 he is the model girl squ Oct 31 10:21:20 we have a google person with us on stage Oct 31 10:21:29 plus, I'm sexy and I know it Oct 31 10:21:48 thepoosh: if u gonna mention bigquery at least 3x on stage, am gonna buy you a shawarma Oct 31 10:21:57 hmmmm Oct 31 10:22:14 she's on stage with us: https://twitter.com/zimmeter Oct 31 10:22:29 How does A/B testing prove a feature is worth deploying to every user? Oct 31 10:22:32 damnnn Oct 31 10:22:54 mflow: you initially decide what is considered success or failure Oct 31 10:23:01 I'm not saying she is lesbian but her topmost tweet is this: Oct 31 10:23:03 To the LGBT community: please know that you have millions of allies across our country. I am one of them.” Oct 31 10:23:13 lol squ Oct 31 10:23:17 was about to type that Oct 31 10:23:42 hillary is kinda gay Oct 31 10:23:49 not that there's anything wrong with it Oct 31 10:23:50 but the sample is small, maybe you picked the wrong user subset and they didn't like the feature tested, meanwhile some other subset likes it Oct 31 10:24:24 mflow: you must have more than I think 1k users for the buckets to meani anything Oct 31 10:25:51 thepoosh: Zimmerman is german surname, you can try to pick her up with german words like: Ordnung and Schwebebahn Oct 31 10:26:08 already married Oct 31 10:26:21 and my name is much more jewish than hers Oct 31 10:28:26 * thepoosh going to lunch Oct 31 10:37:09 thepoosh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yGOmamSuMA&index=20&list=PL61F6466900E47A07 Oct 31 10:37:24 thepoosh: put that background theme during presentation Oct 31 11:18:54 squ: I owould love to Oct 31 11:19:01 sounds cool Oct 31 11:26:04 Not sure why but Android Studio (seemingly) randomly highlights stuff and it stays highlighted. Anyone know what it is and how to disable it? Oct 31 11:31:06 Sanic: you'll have to give some more information Oct 31 11:31:51 I have no idea. :( I'll just be typing stuff in (dark theme) and stuff will stick highlighted in yellow. It's weird. Oct 31 11:32:06 do you have an active search? Oct 31 11:32:12 Ah wait it's telling me stuff can be simplified. Oct 31 11:32:27 My bad... :p Oct 31 11:33:11 it hilights you warnings Oct 31 11:33:21 as typical programmer you should ignore them Oct 31 11:33:50 lol Oct 31 11:43:22 Guys I'm on Gradle 3.1, IntelliJ Ultimate 2016.2.5 and build plugin 2.2.2, and every time only since this update, my IDE is saying that the gradle plugin used is incompatible Oct 31 11:43:51 I even tried cleaning the build, re-building it, disabling instant run, etc., Oct 31 11:43:54 None helped Oct 31 11:44:01 What can I do to make it work? Oct 31 11:44:13 I can still compile the APK manually Oct 31 11:44:27 using Gradle build, and then the APK works fine Oct 31 12:06:39 Hi, I noticed a lot of examples uses URIs in the following format tel:555, shouldn't the format be tel://555? Oct 31 12:10:09 Still no luck with getting the annotation processor to run in build tools 25 with jack. Build uses lombok (okay, auto-value good, but it is what it is) Oct 31 12:10:40 Basically it's as if compiling without any annotation processing Oct 31 12:20:51 Do you media libraries for video decoding/encoding that are better than the standard media library? Oct 31 12:29:19 Hi :-) Oct 31 12:29:28 Hi!!!!! Oct 31 12:29:43 What's your problem? Oct 31 12:29:53 Where'd I find the usage documentation to, eg http://androidxref.com/5.1.0_r1/xref/system/netd/server/CommandListener.cpp ? Oct 31 12:30:59 As in: Sure, I can read the code to figure it's 'ndc resolver setdns wlan0 local 8.8.8.8' to get DNS in a reverse wifi tether, but aren't there any proper, actual documentations of that? Oct 31 12:31:37 What's the Android pendant to man- and info-pages? Oct 31 12:32:21 It's not exactly a regular GNU or Unix userland, after all… Oct 31 12:47:16 goldkatze: sorry, I can't help you Oct 31 12:48:44 goldkatze: android documentation is bad and the platform is bad Oct 31 12:51:11 squ: Am well aware. Oct 31 12:51:48 maybe channel where they discuss rooted device, may help Oct 31 12:52:35 squ: Actually noticed the answer will be useless, as most apps wont accept that connection. Oct 31 12:53:06 what kind of connection it opens Oct 31 12:53:25 As in, eg Termux is online, all fine, ip/gate/dns all set up, but Android API will communicate that neither is wifi connected in client mode, nor is UMTS active. Oct 31 12:54:22 (reverse tether via wifi-ap on android or via ip over usb; works, except for most actual apps, which check net status flags of API…) Oct 31 12:55:14 you want to setup acess point out of android? Oct 31 12:55:56 and connect Termux to it? Oct 31 12:58:48 squ: Android's wifi runs in AP mode, a client connects to it. Client does NAT / masquerading, Android is set up to uplink through its own wifi client. Oct 31 13:00:14 squ: As in, there's no access point available, there's no mobile data available, but there's a wifi _client_ with a USB slot that's online, and should reverse tether for Android. This, however, does not work with most apps, because they'll assume the device is offline if neither mobile data is connected, nor wifi is in client mode. Oct 31 13:03:00 oh I see Oct 31 13:03:31 sounds like a bug in common apps for determining current network state Oct 31 13:16:15 Hmm guys, anyone? Oct 31 13:18:57 Hmm, no one, unfortunately Oct 31 13:49:59 Melatonina: Are you kidding? Oct 31 13:50:09 SHC: yes and no Oct 31 13:50:48 Hmm, not to offend you, but this is the most typical reply I've got in years on the internet Oct 31 13:51:46 "most typical" of what? Oct 31 13:52:08 "most typical" without context doesn't mean much Oct 31 13:55:13 anyway, "Hmm, no one, unfortunately" was just a vaguely humorous reply that I gave just to not let your "anyone?" cry fall into silence. So relax. Oct 31 13:56:05 There was not much meaning behind it. It was just to make you feel there was someone on the other end of the Internet to listen to you Oct 31 15:04:15 The seek() method in MediaExtractor is declared with this annotation: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9ed8cf1e4380932e2af90a0704ade7a4 In my code I defined a java enum with 3 values each associated with one of those 3 int constants. The enum has a method getXyzValue() to retrieve the int value. I'm unable to compile some code calling seek() with the value returned by getXyzValue() because of that annotation. What can I do? Oct 31 15:08:28 what is the best way to convert html links to a custom uri pattern if the url starts with my website Oct 31 15:08:29 ? Oct 31 15:17:50 people in ##java are really stupid Oct 31 15:18:01 yes. Oct 31 15:18:03 :) Oct 31 15:18:15 Melatonina, well, you could just use those constants directly Oct 31 15:18:19 or just supress the linter error Oct 31 15:19:52 I know. I'll suppress the warning Oct 31 15:21:22 idoko, how do you mean? Oct 31 15:21:31 lol Melatonina Oct 31 15:22:09 did you get botted to death with links to read? Oct 31 15:22:24 teracotta, i'm getting a json response that includes html links (anchor tags), i want to open a new activity using details from that link Oct 31 15:22:52 no, I had to waste time discussing if that was a "Java problem" or an "Android problem" Oct 31 15:23:24 it was a problem about annotations so it was a Java problem Oct 31 15:24:10 Melatonina java makes people cranky Oct 31 15:24:32 :) Oct 31 15:24:38 so does android :P Oct 31 15:24:41 yeah, but you mentioned android Oct 31 15:24:48 they really h8 android. Oct 31 15:25:11 Yes. It's childish Oct 31 15:25:16 well they see it as some buggy half assed bastard stepchild Oct 31 15:25:39 Anyway, the code is working. I'll read about Java annotation later Oct 31 15:27:35 If I could annotate the return type of my method with the same annotation, the warning would go away. I just can't find a way to annotate it. It's not important Oct 31 15:38:22 I am using a gif file for my widget but for some reason animation does not work, what might be wrong? Oct 31 15:38:41 hi Oct 31 15:41:01 pihpah: google says Android supports animated gif only as Movie. http://stackoverflow.com/a/7772170 Oct 31 15:41:10 pihpah: did you know otherwise? Oct 31 15:48:57 pfn https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12836812 Oct 31 15:49:31 Indeed, yeah, everything about it looks like a winner Oct 31 15:57:04 Ran into an issue last night with Retrofit..The json that is being returned has top level elements that are dates, so naturally they will change. Screenie: http://prntscr.com/d1ardp Oct 31 15:57:43 Now i've ran into a similar issue before, and what I did was use a Map in my models Oct 31 15:58:05 And the date in this scenario would be automatically parsed as a key in that map Oct 31 15:58:24 For some reason its just not working this time around, the map size is 0. Any clues? Oct 31 16:16:18 > You'll love using your phone for navigation, until you go to Canada, where you don't have data. (Or affordable data.) Oct 31 16:16:41 heh, verizon offers a roaming to canada for $2/day all-inclusive (i.e. it just deducts from your normal allowance) Oct 31 16:17:02 dunno if one considers that affordable... Oct 31 16:22:16 I think tmobile has free roaming Oct 31 16:27:03 Hi, getExternalFilesDir returns /storage/emulated/0/Android/data... but my sdcard is mounted somewhere else /mnt/media_rw/17E4-111F, any idea what's going on? Oct 31 16:34:12 Use getExternalFilesDirs, there are multiple external storages Oct 31 16:36:57 SimonVT: thank you, but I'm not sure to understand, in my device there is only one external sdcard, and no other devices connected to my virtual device Oct 31 16:37:21 soulisson: it could be hard-linked Oct 31 16:37:36 soulisson: it's just a speculation Oct 31 16:37:52 External storage doesn't mean removable storage Oct 31 16:38:55 There's usually "internal" external storage, and then some devices has a sd card as well Oct 31 16:39:26 == 2 external storages, which usually defaults to the "internal" (or non-removable) one Oct 31 16:40:51 https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html#filesExternal has a bit on it Oct 31 16:41:26 soulisson: http://stackoverflow.com/a/29427958 Oct 31 16:41:51 SimonVT: thank you Oct 31 16:42:05 soulisson: http://stackoverflow.com/a/17085841 Oct 31 16:42:52 Hey hi , what's poppin guys i have a service and sometimes it restarts on its own even if its STICKY so i temporarely wanna store some data if service restarts what should i use to store data Preferences or Sqlite ? Oct 31 16:43:31 whatever makes sense for the type of data you want to store Oct 31 16:44:12 depends on how much data, the structure of the data, and how long you want it to last Oct 31 16:45:57 s73v3r: pfn: i can call it a simple array JSON objects Oct 31 16:45:59 SimonVT: So the "internal" external storage might be simply a folder on the internal storage file system? Oct 31 16:46:07 array of JSON object Oct 31 16:47:17 how to set text paddings for Button? Oct 31 16:47:36 well, storing json wouldn't work well in sqlite, unless you destructure it into row data Oct 31 16:48:17 soulisson: They do some magic with partitions, but other than that it's the same memory chip Oct 31 16:48:24 Just available externally Oct 31 16:49:54 pfn: so prefrences ? Oct 31 16:50:06 sure, preferences work fine for string data Oct 31 16:50:13 as long as it's reasonably small Oct 31 16:51:06 pfn: like can you tell me to be a good coder how much can my preferences afford (size) ? Oct 31 16:51:22 a few KB Oct 31 16:51:32 pfn: few KB it is :) Oct 31 16:51:57 SimonVT: ok, there must be some voodoo because I typed the mount -l command and /storage/emulated is not listed as a mount point :) Oct 31 16:51:58 pfn: actually i doubt if it'll ever make a KB Oct 31 16:54:44 hi people Oct 31 16:56:56 why would you assume it's a mount point which would be listed by `mount -l' Oct 31 16:57:48 pfn: Thanks man Oct 31 16:58:55 How do you type shell commands on Android? Oct 31 16:59:18 'ok google, rm -fr /' Oct 31 16:59:56 adq: actually it's I misread, it's a fuse file system Oct 31 17:00:17 adq: /dev/fuse on /storage/emulated Oct 31 17:00:45 However I'm unable to identify which process handle it Oct 31 17:01:00 soulisson this doesn't sound like app dev Oct 31 17:01:14 i think we're going beyond this channel topic, what is troubling you or blocking your app from being developed Oct 31 17:01:26 or maybe i should backlog Oct 31 17:02:01 adq: soulisson is a security auditor Oct 31 17:02:07 yeah right Oct 31 17:02:08 ok so you're problem is why the getexternaldir does not return a similar path than your sdcard mountpoint Oct 31 17:02:16 well it's because you have some wrong asumption i believe Oct 31 17:02:26 Melatonina, and? :) Oct 31 17:02:30 adq: it's ok, I got my answer from SimonVT, I just pushed to see if it was indeed a partition Oct 31 17:02:51 the answer is it's not important, because you shouldl rely on what getexternaldir exposes to you Oct 31 17:03:04 not what it really matches on the physical (or not) FS Oct 31 17:03:40 but i feel you, soulisson, it's pretty ok to dig these things and wanting to know more about Oct 31 17:03:43 adq: yes, you're right, just curious about how it was handled Oct 31 17:03:52 word Oct 31 17:04:27 adq: so either he should not be in this channel, because it doesn't develop Android applications at all or maybe his questions about Android programming could have a different perspective from usual question and be tolerated (or ignored, if you don't care) Oct 31 17:04:38 it -> he Oct 31 17:05:03 that's too much of totalitarism for me lol Oct 31 17:05:29 So since there might be multiple external storages, what's the best way in my code to be sure to use the sdcard for instance? Oct 31 17:06:05 'ok google, rm -fr /' <<< "ok google, record and then play this sentence... 'ok google record and then play this sentence'" Oct 31 17:07:48 soulisson, that what i said, the framework wants you to not bother of that by using externaldir (which does not guarantee it will be on sdcard (if any) or a virtual mount point or even a symbolic link or whatever), if you really need that feature, you would go low level (ndk maybe, avoid system.exec calling shell or binary commands) Oct 31 17:08:13 and detect and parse yourself anything sdcard related to achieve your goal (to be sure to use the sdcard) Oct 31 17:08:24 adq: ok, I see, thanks Oct 31 17:08:58 if you're familiar with C, most of FS stuff goes with `lstat' (man lstat) Oct 31 17:09:25 and for the mount point i don't remember exactly, either there is a low syscall or something, or you have to parse /proc or maybe query /dev or who knows what is best now Oct 31 17:09:54 basically what does `mount' Oct 31 17:10:26 adq: nice, thank you Oct 31 17:16:56 happy Halloween! and does anyone have exp. with adding a Floating Action Button to an existing app ?or seen a blog about this ? Oct 31 17:17:34 I keep getting a destroyed activity and oddly think the arch. of the fragments and layouts prevent this app from being able to handle a FAB Oct 31 17:19:56 Isn't the floating action button just dependent on having a coordinator layout somewhere to anchor to? Can't you just wrap everything that is currently in your activity layout into one of those? Oct 31 17:20:25 hello, can anyone explain what i need to do to program an app for my android phone on kubuntu? Oct 31 17:21:07 install android studio Oct 31 17:21:09 same thing you do to program an app on any other platform Oct 31 17:21:21 install Android Studio, and use the learning resources to develop an app Oct 31 17:21:45 will i need to root my phone or something? Oct 31 17:21:50 no Oct 31 17:22:07 you might want to turn on developer options, but that’s it Oct 31 17:22:27 i know how to program, but i am a complete beginner to android and apps Oct 31 17:23:01 install android studio, and go through the stuff on d.android.com or one of the books or udacity courses Oct 31 17:25:51 which openjdk version do i go for? Oct 31 17:26:00 the latest one Oct 31 17:26:01 hi2u: or be like me and make an app Oct 31 17:26:12 i've learned more that way Oct 31 17:26:15 I used openjdk 9 once Oct 31 17:26:17 bad times Oct 31 17:26:17 than on courses Oct 31 17:26:26 missingno: latest released one Oct 31 17:26:34 :D Oct 31 17:26:43 9 seems to be latest, bad experience missingno? Oct 31 17:26:45 so how do you record the screen on the emulator Oct 31 17:26:56 hi2u: 9 is not final yet I don't think Oct 31 17:27:13 although I don’t think I’ve used openJDK before; i’ve just used Sun’s Java Oct 31 17:27:18 err, Oracles Oct 31 17:27:26 maybe I should just open genymotion, I think that supports screenrecord Oct 31 17:27:37 too bad I can't run both at once Oct 31 17:27:56 there are packages that record your desktop. can’t you use one of those and just crop the video? Oct 31 17:28:13 o Oct 31 17:28:21 version 8 and 9 are available without ppa Oct 31 17:28:25 * missingno opens Quicktime Oct 31 17:28:37 what os do you run s73v3r Oct 31 17:28:41 OS X Oct 31 17:29:01 I'm about to ditch osx due to the sad state of mbps Oct 31 17:29:10 i’m not Oct 31 17:29:17 :thumbsup: Oct 31 17:30:45 missingno :D Oct 31 17:31:04 me looking too, hp spectre, dells xps Oct 31 17:31:16 some other dell with a weird # i can't remember Oct 31 17:31:42 the problem though is windows lol Oct 31 17:32:15 I try to ignore the existence of that OS Oct 31 17:32:17 i'm in the same predicament as tim bray https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2016/10/29/Post-Mac Oct 31 17:32:32 back in Ubuntu after a 5 year break Oct 31 17:32:33 i really can’t take most of those articles seriously Oct 31 17:32:35 i think MS has been doing more innovative stuff lately Oct 31 17:32:52 i also think we are now at the end of the Steve Jobs pipeline Oct 31 17:33:14 he said they had a few years of stuff in the pipeline around the time of his death Oct 31 17:34:05 So there is no one smart enough in the world after Steve Jobs? Oct 31 17:34:13 missingno yeah, but w ubuntu i can't run affinity designer or lightroom Oct 31 17:34:27 Melatonina not working at apple apparently Oct 31 17:35:01 They should hire Mark Zuckerberg Oct 31 17:35:30 that would be antithetical; apple sells you a product, zuckerberg sells you AS the product Oct 31 17:35:48 He knows Chinese and I read he is programming an AI butler Oct 31 17:36:26 I’d imagine Tim Cook knows quite a bit of Chinese too, considering he was head of supply chain before his promotion Oct 31 17:36:28 like the Iron Man's assistant Oct 31 17:36:35 friends, i have a quiestion, i want to add some gamification value to my little educational game app, the story is going from my house to the museum, in the way, the user (little kids) will play in the games i've make, thus, obtaining the "tickets" to enter the musem (if they don't play the games, they can't enter the musem), now, that view, of the gamification tickets i was thinking about something like Oct 31 17:36:37 a view that had the tickets on it, but they're darkened, and when the kid plays, he/she will earn a ticket... i'm thinking that i need to handle that view and a global variable of games finished? what do you think? the view would change depending on the state of global_variable Oct 31 17:37:20 srry for my awful english Oct 31 17:37:23 why would it be a global variable? Oct 31 17:37:25 hexagonSun_ thats a 'how do i program' question Oct 31 17:37:51 hexagonSun_: where are you from, if I may ask? Oct 31 17:38:17 g00s damn i don't mean it to, maybe a need a little guidance, s73v3r to pass the state of that variable through Activities, i guess Oct 31 17:38:38 wouldn’t you just have a user object that you retrieve? Oct 31 17:39:12 s73v3ri haven't implemented the users yet, you think i should start from there? Oct 31 17:39:52 yes Oct 31 17:40:00 at least a basic implementation Oct 31 17:40:58 s73v3r: thanks, i will start doing that then, im guessing then i'd just change the state of the gamification view based on the intents of activities from the user? Oct 31 17:42:49 http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2016/10/keeping-the-play-store-trusted-fighting-fraud-and-spam-installs.html Oct 31 17:44:13 hexagonSun_: ok, I have a friend at NSA. I'll ask him Oct 31 17:44:27 in the activity, you’ll have to retrieve the current user object Oct 31 17:45:31 Melatonina i'm from Canada :) Oct 31 17:45:42 ok, thanks s73v3r ! Oct 31 17:45:53 omg the moment I start recording this bug won't reproduce itself Oct 31 17:46:03