**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 07 03:00:00 2016 Nov 07 03:10:09 R gets built at compile? Nov 07 03:10:56 but some statements are undefined Nov 07 03:11:04 or/and dont point to an address Nov 07 03:12:19 But you dont manually edit R, im pretty sure Nov 07 03:14:10 Then how can I add the values from one R file to the other? Nov 07 03:14:18 because it doesn't add the unknown values itself Nov 07 03:14:33 and I'm pretty sure I can only import one .R file Nov 07 03:14:38 or am I wrong? Nov 07 03:16:28 It is built from your resource files Nov 07 03:16:48 Your strings.xml layout ids etc Nov 07 03:17:47 ok Nov 07 03:17:50 let me try something Nov 07 03:32:52 http://ideone.com/4M0dpP Nov 07 03:34:18 I keep on getting that error Nov 07 03:57:25 nvm, figured it otu Nov 07 03:57:28 out* Nov 07 04:33:41 guys i need help, my webapp got overlaped by soft keyboard. I already add windowSoftInputMode adjustResize to my manifest and add viewport meta to my html. But doesn't working. Nov 07 04:33:48 any sugestion ? Nov 07 04:34:25 by the way, i am on android lolipop Nov 07 04:37:39 anyone familiar with MediaController and MediaSession in here? Nov 07 05:57:55 can you write android apps with absolutely no java? Nov 07 05:58:22 sorta... Nov 07 05:58:53 basic4android Nov 07 05:59:12 also phonegap Nov 07 05:59:18 unity Nov 07 05:59:25 pure c arm Nov 07 05:59:45 you forgot xamarin Nov 07 06:00:10 ^ Nov 07 06:00:20 does the NDK allow you to do everything you can do from java? Nov 07 06:00:24 owned by microsoft so not an option for me persay Nov 07 06:01:35 never really used it, i am under the impression its more wrapperish Nov 07 06:01:52 when it first came to be i thought it looked like a nightmare but im sure some ppl find it useful Nov 07 06:03:58 if you need the functionality i assume it can be pretty powerful Nov 07 07:07:51 guys Nov 07 07:09:17 what's the difference between a bootloader on an android phone and a bootloader on a desktop computer? Nov 07 07:09:41 black91: do yourself a favor and start writing "per se" instead of "persay". "Persay" is not a word. "Per se" is Latin and means "in itself". Americans both misspell and misuse this expression. Nov 07 07:10:30 "Persay" only means "I'm dumb" Nov 07 07:12:35 If you replace "persay" with "in itself" in your sentence, you'll see that you misused it too. Nov 07 07:13:58 because Melatonina is a word Nov 07 07:15:10 but thanks for correction i will remember that Nov 07 07:17:04 mozzarella: thats more for #android or #android-root Nov 07 07:17:14 but the question feels useless Nov 07 07:17:37 why useless? Nov 07 07:18:58 they seem vey different. the similarity is they are (mostly) the first code executed after power on Nov 07 07:20:55 phone's bootloader i.e. checks for unathorized data manipulation. if bootloader is locked it wont allow unauthorized updates to occur Nov 07 07:21:17 of course it all depends on phone manufacturer and model Nov 07 07:24:00 wtf google " If you're located outside Japan, you may need to pay a Japan Consumption Tax (JCT) on the products or services that you supply to customers in Japan. Contact your Japan tax adviser for more information." Nov 07 07:24:05 my japan tax adviser Nov 07 07:24:18 are they fukkin serious? Nov 07 07:34:10 /exit Nov 07 07:39:22 japan tax advisel* Nov 07 07:41:18 racist Nov 07 08:19:05 I trying to make a clock with minutes so I need a string with minutes in circular view. This is what I have done http://pastebin.com/3i0W2KHu but this is how it looks https://cdn.img42.com/f47425be19babd70f0c0c8aa77258d28.jpeg can someone help me? Nov 07 08:29:12 Almis90: are you sure you want people to read text upside down? Nov 07 08:31:29 Almis90: open you clock app and try to set an alarm and look at how the same kind of control is made Nov 07 08:32:06 Almis90: then check out Android Arsenal to see if there is library that does what you want Nov 07 10:22:47 I want to send push notification from one user to another can i bypass server development , like sending notification directly from one user to another via app ? I want to use GCM Nov 07 10:53:59 I'm using constraint layout for a project where I need to have buttons on the bottom of the screen, similar to an action bar, with a specific background color. Is there a way to achieve this without putting the buttons in a nested layout? This is what it looks like currently with the buttons in a LinearLayout http://i.imgur.com/DAz4koU.png Nov 07 10:56:44 Nested layout sounds exactly the thing that would make it easier (and more consistent) to implement. Nov 07 10:58:21 yet the documentation for the ConstraintLayout says that nested view groups shouldn't be required Nov 07 11:31:01 hi still problems with Error:(22, 0) Could not find method android() for arguments [build_4886nivgvm264ojqpcex9913z$_run_closure3@25506] on root project 'MyApplication' of type org.gradle.api.Project. Nov 07 11:31:02 Open File Nov 07 11:39:16 Hello, will admob ads feed on devices which has no Google Play services ? Nov 07 11:42:15 Looks like a yes. Nov 07 11:42:23 With a minor drawback. Nov 07 11:42:26 Thanks for listening. Nov 07 11:42:28 :D Nov 07 11:43:56 youre welcome Nov 07 11:51:40 hithere Nov 07 11:53:20 hihi Nov 07 11:53:31 https://events.withgoogle.com/firebase-dev-summit/ Nov 07 12:13:11 Hey all Nov 07 12:13:35 Hi Nov 07 12:20:09 #latex Nov 07 13:07:44 today gradle's slow :( Nov 07 13:11:43 Total time: 2 mins 9.146 secs with the latest mbp 15 Nov 07 13:12:09 Is the Android-M "Adoptable Storage" feature available to all M-devices, or has it to be enabled specifically by the rom? Nov 07 13:13:51 I have a service that plays music, I need it to start along with a certain activity and be able to manage it from that activity (change volume, stop) and I need the service to survive application exit and continue playing unless it's stopped from activity. Nov 07 13:13:51 I'm using now bound service in an activity and start new one or bind to an existing service there. Can I achieve the same functionality but decouple activity from service? I want to be able to start said activity in a "dummy" mode, without a service. Nov 07 13:44:48 what can i do to click elsewhere on screen, like everywhere beside of my buttons and textEdits ? Nov 07 13:45:15 I want a method to start when the user click elsewhere on the activity Nov 07 13:49:35 like this: https://developer.android.com/training/gestures/detector.html ? Nov 07 13:58:47 raoul11: ? Nov 07 13:59:17 thepoosh Nov 07 13:59:21 berlinmuch? Nov 07 13:59:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqmAXlrpmGs Nov 07 14:00:09 look at that cute yemenite Nov 07 14:02:37 are we fat stupid Americans voting today? Nov 07 14:03:00 Of course you're not. Nov 07 14:03:29 One more time? We're out of our minds or out of contril? Nov 07 14:04:16 One more time and here's how it goes to the poll tomorrow! Nov 07 14:07:16 capella-5x: did you vote? Nov 07 14:07:40 And your vote tomorrow costs nothing honey but the opportunity cost associated with Nov 07 14:07:50 not yet going Nov 07 14:08:23 to the polls tomorrow Nov 07 14:08:56 which will only count, bkah bohag blah if... Nov 07 14:09:23 we're not invaded by Nov 07 14:09:34 Mongolian hordes Nov 07 14:09:39 thepoosh, you didnt say bigquery even once Nov 07 14:09:45 no shawarma for you. Nov 07 14:10:00 the guy before us said bigquery multiple times Nov 07 14:10:13 also, the israeli girl that was with fontain is here Nov 07 14:10:17 chatted her up a bit Nov 07 14:11:02 good, tell her to invite me to more events /: Nov 07 14:30:55 Hey guys what is the alternative for this library now https://github.com/bauerca/drag-sort-listview? Nov 07 14:32:25 probably the one that deals with RecyclerView instead Nov 07 14:36:45 Almis90: https://medium.com/@ipaulpro/drag-and-swipe-with-recyclerview-b9456d2b1aaf#.lvy0ub8xw Nov 07 14:37:42 cool thank yoi Nov 07 14:37:47 you* Nov 07 14:40:22 HAHA audioJack Nov 07 14:40:41 hope yall are watching firebase live stream Nov 07 14:41:27 so I have a CoordinatorLayout and want to set an onClick to watch for clicks on the layout. Nov 07 14:41:55 this seems to not work with this layout , seems to work with all the rest I've tried. any suggestions ? Nov 07 14:51:40 dar10s: what time did it start? Nov 07 14:53:42 like 4hours ago, I missed the Keynote and first few Nov 07 14:53:45 How do I break internet in the emulator? Nov 07 14:54:33 Melatonina: Signal Strength in Extendend controls, or something like Charles Proxy Nov 07 14:57:45 dar10s: Anything good shown? Nov 07 14:57:55 I'm watching atm, just curious if I missed out on anything Nov 07 15:01:14 hi guys, what is the best easy to use sdk front end for ubuntu or window system? Nov 07 15:01:36 when i said best is, easy tool for design front end and stuff Nov 07 15:02:04 yiati: no, "Signal Strength" does not affect Internet access Nov 07 15:02:05 i've known ther are few like eclipse and one with google android sdk Nov 07 15:02:27 so , do you guys know any plug-in for visual studio? Nov 07 15:02:32 Android Studio Nov 07 15:02:45 VS isn't going to be able to keep up Nov 07 15:02:50 oh, i see Nov 07 15:03:06 so basically none for VS, only Android Studio ? Nov 07 15:03:13 Hulio: you can open Visual Studio and the open Android Studio and pretend Android Studio is a Visual Studio plugin Nov 07 15:03:15 and Eclipse ? Nov 07 15:03:38 Melatonina: Huh, good to know would be nice if it was in the extended controls, but I know you can control it from Charles Proxy, works great for me Nov 07 15:03:53 Charles Proxy? Nov 07 15:04:10 Anyone else has problems with v7 dialogs? To be exact it crashes only with SDK 24 and 25 (not for me but some users reported it). Log: http://pastebin.com/iBWMYEHi Nov 07 15:04:26 Melatonina: https://www.charlesproxy.com/ Nov 07 15:04:28 I assume Android Studio is support for ubuntu right? Nov 07 15:04:34 cross platform? Nov 07 15:04:54 let me install it in vmware ubuntu Nov 07 15:05:00 Hulio: No, it doesn't "support" Ubuntu. It's written in Java so it just runs everywhere Nov 07 15:05:16 yiati: how do you use a proxy with Android Emulator? Nov 07 15:05:27 alright let me install Nov 07 15:05:41 anyone know a site instruction on installation under linux? Nov 07 15:05:43 Melatonina: https://developer.android.com/studio/run/emulator-commandline.html#proxy Nov 07 15:06:07 i might be so nooob, but i'm willing to learn Nov 07 15:06:27 I have experience in only c# ..but the thing is ...i'm willing to learn Nov 07 15:06:28 Melatonina, it has a "WiredSSID" wifi you set proxy on. Nov 07 15:06:38 or use commandline if you want Nov 07 15:06:48 Command line? That is so Linux... I'm a Windows user. (I'm joking) Nov 07 15:07:04 Hulio: Then you should have little problem with Java, particularly with IntelliJ smacking your fingers when you do something silly Nov 07 15:07:30 Dagmar, Like i said, i'm willing to learn :) Nov 07 15:07:49 Until i failed, then i know android is not for me Nov 07 15:08:17 Dagmar, so will you tell me where to get instruction on how to install android studio under linux? Nov 07 15:08:25 Hulio, https://developer.android.com/studio/install.html Nov 07 15:08:30 good thanks adq Nov 07 15:08:32 and change the checkbox to linux Nov 07 15:08:49 Heck it directs you to the right version on it's own Nov 07 15:08:50 and take the habit of reading official doc/websites Nov 07 15:10:54 1 last thing, android studio should work fine in ubuntu in vmware right? Nov 07 15:11:07 grarak: Post the java that's coming out of Nov 07 15:11:08 else i have to do it in host, (windows) Nov 07 15:11:37 anyone confirm? Nov 07 15:12:03 yiati: sorry for the dumb question. I usually start emulators via Android Studio (it asks me when I want to run my app, for example). Do I have to start emulators manually to set the proxy? Is there a place where I can set this option once and for all? Nov 07 15:12:31 I'm not complaining. I'm just asking Nov 07 15:12:55 Melatonina, go to wifi settings like your'd go on your phone. Nov 07 15:12:57 And set it there. Nov 07 15:12:57 Melatonina: Probably? That might be what Mavrik was mentioning above. I usually use Charles with an actual device where the setup is a bit different so I haven't researched enough to find the answer to that Nov 07 15:13:10 Mavrik: I thought that only worked for a real device Nov 07 15:13:14 not for emulator Nov 07 15:13:14 Nope. Nov 07 15:13:20 Works for emulator as well :) Nov 07 15:13:24 Emulator doesn't use "wifi" though Nov 07 15:13:38 It uses "data" which doesn't have the same option Nov 07 15:13:42 Mavrik Melatonina, it has a "WiredSSID" wifi you set proxy on. Nov 07 15:13:47 Mavrik: what is this "WiredSSID" setting? Nov 07 15:14:01 I'll google Nov 07 15:14:23 Dagmar: http://pastebin.com/X8QVZWBU crashes right at show(); Nov 07 15:14:42 I guess it's a Genymotion thing Nov 07 15:14:50 Ah, yeah Nov 07 15:14:58 Not an Android Emulator thing Nov 07 15:16:05 Same for a physical device as that Genymotion WiredSSID. Pretty easy which is why I usually use a physical device. The terminal is the only option I know for the Android Emulator Melatonia. But there might be boot options for it in AS Nov 07 15:16:42 grarak: For one, invoking the v7 version explicitly is, I'm pretty sure, NOT a thing you're supposed to do. The point of those libraries is to make it so _old_ versions of Android which don't have those methods can still operate. New versions of Android do not need them, and there's no sense in making them run compatibility code they don't need to run. Nov 07 15:17:54 grarak: Just say "new AlertDialog.Builder". Secondly, if you separated all those things a bit you might see that the error is coming from a more specific place. Nov 07 15:18:10 Just because you *can* stick a bunch of things together with dots doesn't necessarily mean you _should_ Nov 07 15:18:18 Dagmar: Of course I don't have this in code. v7 is imported and replaces older code Nov 07 15:18:35 OKay so this is not the code that was running then Nov 07 15:19:27 Dagmar: It crashes right at show, sdk 23 just works fine. I shouldn't get better logs with splitting it up Nov 07 15:19:30 yiati, ahhhh, yes. it's a genymotion thing Nov 07 15:19:33 Mixed it up -_- Nov 07 15:21:32 would be nice if the AVD manager at least has a line for extra boot options until they actually add UI for the rest of the features that exist Nov 07 15:21:59 It's not available in the "For personal use" version. Nov 07 15:22:25 The network settings icon is disabled Nov 07 15:24:43 There is no limits to the amount of s**t I have to learn to develop this application Nov 07 15:25:17 Dagmar, i end up following this site: http://askubuntu.com/questions/634082/how-to-install-android-studio-on-ubuntu Nov 07 15:25:46 I am just trying to learn Android dev. Trying with listview but i can't do it. Anyone can tell me where is the problem in this code: http://pastebin.com/vhVPEd7j Nov 07 15:26:04 Yeah, god forbid you'd have to learn anything. Nov 07 15:26:30 discovered, and what is the exact problem you're seeing_ Nov 07 15:26:31 ? Nov 07 15:26:44 Mavrik, It just crash Nov 07 15:27:02 And what is the error message? Nov 07 15:27:12 guys, 1 question, in android app. the only way to connect to SQL / Oracle database is by webmethods right? Nov 07 15:27:18 Hulio, uhh... Nov 07 15:27:19 like GET/POST things right? Nov 07 15:27:29 It's the best way, yes. Nov 07 15:27:49 Mavrik, with debug android.widget.RelativeLayout cannot be cast to android.widget.TextView Nov 07 15:27:54 and use JAVA to parse it right? Nov 07 15:27:57 Mavrik: the path of the "emulator" binary is not a notion I'm particularly interested to know Nov 07 15:28:13 I'm sure there are easier jobs out there. Nov 07 15:28:35 discovered, well, don't assign a RelativeLayout to a textview? :P Nov 07 15:28:51 Hulio, well, if you want to save youself a bunch of trouble, using libraries like Retrofit is very nice Nov 07 15:28:58 There are also more difficult jobs where you don't have to learn this kind of things Nov 07 15:29:12 Mavrik, I am not using textview. It is just listView. Nov 07 15:29:35 Melatonina, tell your employer to contact someone here when you switch :) Nov 07 15:29:37 Mavrik, is it free? Nov 07 15:29:44 Hulio, yes. Nov 07 15:29:47 I don't have an employer Nov 07 15:30:06 discovered, you're certanly assigning a RelativeLayout type view to a TextView variable somewhere. Nov 07 15:30:19 discovered, the stack trace you were looking at will even show you the exact line . Nov 07 15:30:27 Being able to read those will really really help you. Nov 07 15:30:39 http://imgur.com/a/ikl1k any idea on how to crop the image within the circle? Nov 07 15:31:06 Mavrik, Let me try again :) Nov 07 15:31:35 ubuntu in vmware is slow Nov 07 15:31:42 i think i should install it in Host Nov 07 15:31:45 host is windows Nov 07 15:32:03 gdrc, hmm, not sure if you can clip them in XML, but there's several implementations out there that give you a clipped imageview Nov 07 15:32:14 It's not an imageview Nov 07 15:32:18 it's a gifview Nov 07 15:34:22 gdrc: ClipDrawable? Never used it tho Nov 07 15:34:34 Dagmar, 1 more thing, can android studio run under windows 2008 server? Nov 07 15:34:39 this is what i will be using Nov 07 15:34:48 gdrc: otherwise you can clip/mask it programmatically with a custom view Nov 07 15:35:00 I tried but it's a gif Nov 07 15:36:29 https://developer.android.com/reference/android/graphics/drawable/ClipDrawable.html Nov 07 15:36:54 what's the problem with a gif' Nov 07 15:36:55 ? Nov 07 15:37:57 Mavrik: I'm not lazy. It's just that I don't like programming software Nov 07 15:40:02 Don't dispise me Nov 07 15:42:55 i have a map where you can zoom in and out and scroll x/y -/+. occasionally, on the zoom out -the speed you can scroll at slows down but will be fixed on restarting the app. i get this is because each frame process more data (on zoom out) before listening for input on UI thread again Nov 07 15:43:10 but why the phone processes it fast or not? it is the RAM ? Nov 07 15:45:22 but it is strange because there is not much more to process, maybe a couple of tiny bitmaps more to draw but sometimes not Nov 07 15:45:53 njcomsec: profile your code Nov 07 15:47:23 kk Nov 07 15:52:15 How can I combine two R.class files? Nov 07 15:53:15 I'm trying to use androidmk files on mac osx and I'm getting the following: arm-linux-androideabi-g++: error: unrecognized command line option '-Wall -Wextra' Nov 07 15:53:24 anyone know why? Nov 07 15:58:17 yiati: I managed to make the emulator connect via Charles Proxy. I guess Nov 07 15:58:25 yiati: thanks Nov 07 15:59:25 do you know how the property_process talk with the usb kernel driver ? Nov 07 15:59:46 menu option in Charles Proxy disappear when you move the mouse on them Nov 07 16:14:10 mGoogleApiClient = new GoogleApiClient.Builder(this) .enableAutoManage(this, this) .addApi(Auth.GOOGLE_SIGN_IN_API) .addApi(AppInvite.API) .build(); Nov 07 16:14:22 .enableAutoManage(this, this) Nov 07 16:14:28 its giving me an error on this Nov 07 16:22:02 yiati: I installed version 3 of Charles Proxy. The site say that's free. The software says I have to pay a license... How does it work? Nov 07 16:34:37 Melatonina: 30 day free trial, then one time $50 fee for 1-4 user license after that Nov 07 16:36:48 yiati: ah, ok. I was confused by the wording in the website. Thanks Nov 07 16:42:18 https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidQuestions/comments/5bjm6b/eval09_huawei_p9_root_twrp_xposed_framework_and_a/ Nov 07 16:42:30 Hey, does anyone know anything about ZipCahe? Nov 07 16:42:48 I'm having some issues on my EVA-L09 .. (see link) Nov 07 16:42:56 No, but I'll wager the problem is you screwed up when you installed Xposed. Nov 07 16:43:04 Remove exposed and it'll probably all work just fine again Nov 07 16:44:00 Not sure how I go about doing that. afaik there is no stock rom i can recover with. Nov 07 16:44:15 As Google Wallet has changed it's UI now how do you check per day transaction history, or even total balance remaining in Wallet? Any one. Nov 07 16:44:31 or is it maybe possible to get more verbose logging added? so i can see what exactly its trying to do Nov 07 16:45:13 dcxk: Offhand I'd put a bug report in front of the people who make that firmware image then so they'll know they broke a commonly used facility Nov 07 16:45:51 ...or just uninstall Xposed. Nov 07 16:46:26 ...since it apparently doesn't come as a part of EMUI. Hint hint. Nov 07 16:47:09 Look on the bright side... if this were the first time you'd ever installed SELinux on something, it would just be bootlooped right now. ;) Nov 07 16:47:19 Well. heres to hoping the installer just moved the original framework. Nov 07 16:47:26 and didnt overwrite them Nov 07 16:47:40 There's no "original framework" to speak of for that Nov 07 16:47:54 Worst-case you can probably just reflash EMUI and not put Xposed in Nov 07 16:48:17 Melatonina: Did that person from the other day get their context menu problem sorted? Nov 07 16:48:32 If you're so concerned about your firmware that you think you need Xposed to protect you, you probably need to get a firmware from SOMEONE ELSE. Nov 07 16:49:35 Honestly I only wanted the fancy stuff Xposed provides. Nov 07 16:50:32 t2mkn, you did not search, did you? in sub & services > manage > view transactions Nov 07 17:01:59 adq thanks. Yes I had not looked inside sub & services. This thing should not be in there. Nov 07 17:07:49 Has anyone here ever written code to interact with a UVC webcamera from an Android device? Nov 07 17:08:11 I'm curious as to how you went about it. I see two github projects related to this, but they both seem very different in their approaches Nov 07 17:08:22 I'm also wondering why no one actually just made a HAL implementation for UVC Nov 07 17:08:59 Because UVC cams are a blight and should be burned Nov 07 17:09:38 There's more variants of the damn thing than possibly a four digit hex sequence can accommodate, so they just don't even bother Nov 07 17:10:33 100 people would install it and 50 of them would send in bug reports saying it doesn't work because there's no image, or the image is all green, or the image is oversaturated... Nov 07 17:11:21 Pretty much every single $10 webcam on Amazon will identify as a UVC camera, and most will have their own driver software for a _reason_ Nov 07 17:16:35 Hi! Nov 07 17:16:51 Dagmar: that's no different than any other standard out there. I bet HID storage devices fall prey to the same problems. But I bet mainstream webcams like the most popular logitechs get it right. They work well with most PCs... Nov 07 17:17:12 patarr: Actually, _no_ Nov 07 17:17:57 patarr: Aside from some really out there keyboards with incredibly unusual buttons on them, HID-compliant devices are generally quite well behaved. Keyboards "just work". Mice "just work". Nov 07 17:18:11 You don't have to provide your own keymap to the bloody driver or anything Nov 07 17:18:14 Dagmar: so you're saying I have to create my own CameraHardware.cpp file for this? Nov 07 17:18:32 You damn well might Nov 07 17:18:56 Just plug the thing into some Linux machine running Ubuntu first and see if the default camera app can read it Nov 07 17:19:05 It'll be using the same driver under Linux as Android would have Nov 07 17:19:06 I've recently installed omnirom 5.1.1 wingray for my xoom, but I've some issue beginning from not possible to access camera. I'm new to android, so I'd like to ask u from where I should begin to work on this to solve all the Rom issue (and through this begin to learn how to work on android) Nov 07 17:19:29 I'd like to leverage the Android native Camera APIs. Seems like the two GH projects (saki4510t/UVCCamera & openxc/android-webcam) provide their own camera classes. Nov 07 17:19:52 those are for the internal cameras Nov 07 17:20:04 sbef: try #android-root. This is for app development Nov 07 17:20:31 s73v3r: oh sorry on twrp I've been sent here 😃 Nov 07 17:20:32 Dagmar: But does that mean Android will actually be able to use the camera? Linux has good UVC support, so yeah. If I make sure the uvc kernel module is in place on Android, I'll get a /dev/video0 device. But does that mean I can use it from within my app? Nov 07 17:20:42 s73v3r: this is app development... Nov 07 17:20:53 sbef: please go back to twrp and tell them that this is not the place to be sent Nov 07 17:21:04 patarr: I wasn’t talking to you when I said that Nov 07 17:21:11 s73v3r: :) Nov 07 17:22:13 I've wasted enough of my time with cheapo UVC cameras. I'm not wasting any more of it. Nov 07 17:24:33 Dagmar: I get it, you've been burned. I was hoping you could shed any light from your experiences for me, instead of trash talking UVC. I feel like it's the only shot I've got. Writing my own driver for a logitech device is not feasible for me IMHO. Nov 07 17:24:53 You dont' have to Nov 07 17:25:20 Go download hte giant pile of stuff necessary to build a CM image and just edit the kernel config so that the drivers you want stay in Nov 07 17:25:28 Dagmar: why? Can you elaborate? Nov 07 17:27:58 yiati: is it ok to use Fiddler instead of Charles Proxy? The former is free Nov 07 17:28:44 yeah, they’re both fine Nov 07 17:28:45 Melatonina: Sure, I've heard of it, but never used it Nov 07 17:28:55 Ok. Thanks Nov 07 17:28:57 fiddler is Windows only, if that’s an issue Nov 07 17:29:07 I'm Windows only too :) Nov 07 17:29:50 It's for any playform, system and browser Nov 07 17:30:09 Fiddler? I’m 90% sure it’s windows only Nov 07 17:30:32 nevermind Nov 07 17:30:44 they have an OS X build, and it looks like they’re working on a Linux build Nov 07 17:30:49 lol Nov 07 17:30:54 it does look like they require Mono, though Nov 07 17:31:00 Even funnier Nov 07 17:31:31 and even on the page that says “Download for OS X”, the System Requirements blurb says Windows Nov 07 17:31:41 There's practically dozens of ways to proxy on Linux Nov 07 17:32:01 They're going to be trying to sell shaved ice to snowmen, then Nov 07 17:32:03 yeah, but fiddler and charles are streamlined for debugging Nov 07 17:33:13 No one's ever needed to debug ssh connections or squid. Nope, not once Nov 07 17:33:47 I’m not saying that. I’m saying the entire purpose of these products is to debug web calls Nov 07 17:33:58 look at the request and the response Nov 07 17:34:11 Quickly edit&replay with two clicks Nov 07 17:35:21 All of this is trivial under Linux Nov 07 17:36:34 not really Nov 07 17:37:28 I download charles, open it up, and boom, ready to go Nov 07 17:42:45 Dagmar: so as I suspected, I think your course of action would not satisfy my use case: http://stackoverflow.com/a/11982661 Nov 07 17:43:05 I'll have Linux detect my camera, but not the Android Camera APIs Nov 07 17:43:12 i told you so Nov 07 18:25:21 I have a layout with a textview and an imageview which are updated every X and Y seconds respectively with a Handler. For the textview, I load an image using glide, but I cannot see the image... http://pastebin.com/HXCJXJpn (the function that loads the image is the last one, `updateImage()`) Nov 07 18:26:57 Where is the problem in my code: http://pastebin.com/b7DgGLHr ? I am getting error "java.lang.ClassCastException: android.widget.RelativeLayout cannot be cast to android.widget.TextView" Nov 07 18:27:05 and youre sure IMAGE_URLS.get(_currentImageIndex) is valid? Nov 07 18:27:29 discovered: In your java. Nov 07 18:28:02 Dagmar, Debugger take to String tt=((TextView)view).getText().toString(); Nov 07 18:28:11 Ashiren, Yes. Nov 07 18:28:19 I don't know how to fix. I just started today Nov 07 18:28:40 discovered: The error probably cites which line it's in Nov 07 18:29:06 Dagmar, Sorry, did not get you Nov 07 18:29:56 minas114: do you have INTERNET_PERMISSION? Nov 07 18:30:16 Dagmar, can you be more specific please? Nov 07 18:30:17 Ashiren, crap, that's it Nov 07 18:30:23 Ashiren, :) Nov 07 18:30:27 discovered: Don't pass your activity layout to ArrayAdapter.. Nov 07 18:30:54 And the error is because the top level view in the layout you're telling it to inflate is a RelativeLayout, and you try to cast it to a TextView Nov 07 18:31:00 discovered: There's only one RelativeLayout in there, man. R.layout.activity_weight_loss. You refer to it twice, by id (which is an int) alone in teh code you posted Nov 07 18:33:45 discovered: So it's going to be one of two things that could even possibly be going wrong. Simon's told you which one. Nov 07 18:34:22 Dagmar, ArrayAdapter listAdapter=new ArrayAdapter(this, R.layout.activity_weight_loss,R.id.textView,contentArray); is the problem? Nov 07 18:34:38 discovered: Could be _but the logcat output_ will also be saying so Nov 07 18:38:47 now finding how to use logcat on Android studio Nov 07 18:39:43 It has it's own window. Nov 07 18:39:53 Down the bottom, "6. Android Monitor" Nov 07 18:40:09 yes, logcat usually is helpful for developing android Nov 07 18:42:25 It would have narrowed this bug hunt down immediately Nov 07 18:43:30 Clearly there's no problem with passing a relativeLayout to setContentView, ergo the _other_ place has to be where the issue is happening Nov 07 18:44:13 Looking at the docs for ArrayAdapter they're very sneaky. They _say_ "resource" for that field right up front, but elsewhere they explain it's going to be looking for a TextView by default Nov 07 18:46:26 Getting confirmation about specifically where the error occurred from logcat makes it _far_ easier to figure out exactly what's going wrong Nov 07 18:50:10 First time i am trying to learn android dev today Nov 07 18:50:27 Kind of what I figured from the question Nov 07 18:50:42 AS makes things _super_ easy Nov 07 18:50:51 The arrayAdapter is confusing to me though Nov 07 18:50:53 It's just hard to figure out where some of the more useful bits are Nov 07 18:52:02 discovered: This guy... vevs... You're probably going to want to watch a bunch of his videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uic3TVp_j3M Nov 07 18:58:57 I'm getting pretty desperate with some android/libvlc stuff. If anyone could help that would be awesome. Minimizing the activity then changing media via "play next" on a notification, and restoring the activity leaves me with a blank video surface while playing back audio Nov 07 19:01:18 Dagmar, Whenever i click on the list it just crashes Nov 07 19:02:21 discovered: So what's showing up in logcat then? You'll have a great big stack trace to look through Nov 07 19:02:54 discovered: The relevant parts of your code will even show up as hyperlinks Nov 07 19:04:40 Dagmar, http://pastebin.com/dXDPDAVQ Nov 07 19:05:25 java.lang.ClassCastException: android.widget.RelativeLayout cannot be cast to android.widget.TextView at com.tracedot.weightloss.weightloss.WeightLoss$1.onItemClick(WeightLoss.java:36) Nov 07 19:05:47 So in Line 36 String tt=((TextView)view).getText().toString(); Nov 07 19:05:55 discovered: So you can click on that bit and it'll take you right to the line Nov 07 19:06:05 yes Nov 07 19:06:34 Okay, so if you work backwards you'll probably find that "view" there actually contains your relativeLayout, and (TextView)relativeLayout makes no sense at all, dig? Nov 07 19:09:18 discovered: Something you *might* find handy... Savage though it may be, the result is not always unreadable when you do something like "Log.d("whatevs", "What the heck is in: " + view); Nov 07 19:10:18 #numpy Nov 07 19:10:30 oops typo Nov 07 19:10:45 Sure, view isn't a string, but log serializes a bunch of objects into a not entirely unreadable format Nov 07 19:11:26 hmm Nov 07 19:11:45 I just wanted to read the clicked item as string Nov 07 19:11:57 like system.out.print(item) Nov 07 19:14:40 Dagmar, How about String tt=(String) contentListView.getItemAtPosition(position) ? Nov 07 19:15:51 You're guessing. Nov 07 19:16:47 Dagmar, no... I am googling and trying Nov 07 19:17:37 Except that should be a cursor afaik Nov 07 19:18:48 Not sure off the top of my head, because I'm still learning this stuff and there's tons of it Nov 07 19:20:08 hmm... Perhaps i need to study more than a week to understand basic of it Nov 07 19:20:36 Search youtube for slidenerd and the item you're trying to use for starters Nov 07 19:21:10 The guy isn't a super-genius or anything, but he does have really well thought out explanations Nov 07 19:21:35 Dagmar, are you still here? Nov 07 19:21:43 Dagmar, wow, you're been online so long Nov 07 19:21:57 Not that long, only 25 years or so Nov 07 19:22:06 yeah Nov 07 19:22:29 I'm digging through stsructures trying to find out how to style a few things and it's incredibly boring Nov 07 19:22:29 is there video step by step learning android? Nov 07 19:22:50 Ther'es no real linear path through it Nov 07 19:22:51 instead of reading ...watching video? Nov 07 19:22:56 i se Nov 07 19:22:59 there are several courses Nov 07 19:23:04 Slidenerd's videos work pretty well for most things Nov 07 19:23:15 cause reading sometihng is still confused Nov 07 19:23:16 google has official videos on coursera Nov 07 19:23:24 video is the best and follow it Nov 07 19:23:31 if you’re confused reading it, you’re probably going to be confused watching it Nov 07 19:23:40 not really Nov 07 19:23:49 i'll do as video said so Nov 07 19:23:57 then you’re not learning Nov 07 19:24:00 then i'll pick up the environsment Nov 07 19:24:03 you’re copying Nov 07 19:24:15 i would prefer learning the simple environments Nov 07 19:24:27 there’s really only one environment Nov 07 19:24:37 example, android studio...i have no clue on all the menus Nov 07 19:24:44 That's normal Nov 07 19:24:45 it’s just like any other IDE Nov 07 19:24:45 and what is the requirement Nov 07 19:24:46 heh Nov 07 19:24:53 whre to begin Nov 07 19:25:06 Someone really, REALLY needs to get out the cat-o-nine tails on the guys responsible for it's menuing system Nov 07 19:25:06 i install android studio..create a new project..then stuck Nov 07 19:25:23 Android activity LifeCycle Nov 07 19:25:25 for that, you need to know what kind of app you’re making Nov 07 19:25:31 that is why i wish there is video...teach basic Nov 07 19:25:38 there are several Nov 07 19:26:16 here is an example in asp.net... create a project( win or web) then, add aspx page Nov 07 19:26:22 or add refrerence Nov 07 19:26:28 there is simple rules Nov 07 19:26:30 it’s the same thing in android Nov 07 19:26:31 and environment Nov 07 19:26:39 Yeah, but then so are playmobil toys Nov 07 19:26:47 Android is a bit more complex Nov 07 19:26:51 no one will know what to do after installing android studio Nov 07 19:27:05 yes, they will Nov 07 19:27:17 unless, there is tutorial ...for me.. a video is grea Nov 07 19:27:20 great! Nov 07 19:27:24 Probably not. That's why you go find a Hello World app or a video where someone throws one together Nov 07 19:27:26 and we’ve told you, there are several Nov 07 19:27:36 the path to learning Android is no different than learning anything else Nov 07 19:27:40 hello world app. is one they create a solution for u Nov 07 19:27:42 i dont want that Nov 07 19:27:51 Yes, you do. Nov 07 19:27:54 i want how u create a solution..and what to include Nov 07 19:28:03 that’s what you get Nov 07 19:28:05 You don't know your butt from a hole in the ground right now, and you're going to have to poop soon enough Nov 07 19:28:21 alreight Nov 07 19:28:24 i'm going to look for video Nov 07 19:28:25 just go read the d.android.com docs, and watch the google corsera videos Nov 07 19:28:30 or tutorial step by step Nov 07 19:28:41 ok thanks sir! Nov 07 19:28:44 I will do! Nov 07 19:29:17 when i learn visutual studio...i watch people ..or someone teach me how to use it Nov 07 19:29:21 Hulio: For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YOmXWIG7XA Nov 07 19:29:26 then i know what is required Nov 07 19:29:31 espeically the environnment Nov 07 19:29:43 dude, it’s no different learning anything else Nov 07 19:30:50 ok guys, i take from here...u're all very ehlp Nov 07 19:30:53 love u guys Nov 07 19:31:05 brb Nov 07 19:58:36 is there anyone here proficient with webview? I have a webview app that works correctly on all platforms except chromeos/arc, where the onscreen keyboard does not properly hide when the input element loses focus Nov 07 20:47:24 Morning everyone Nov 07 21:03:57 g00s: hi hi Nov 07 21:04:28 hey thepoosh Nov 07 21:04:36 what's news? Nov 07 21:05:44 some area guy tweeted minSdkVersion = 19 Nov 07 21:05:53 ok Nov 07 21:05:59 according to what data? Nov 07 21:05:59 lol Nov 07 21:06:06 yeah, exactly Nov 07 21:06:24 whats new over there ? Nov 07 21:06:27 i love it when these things happen Nov 07 21:06:29 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqmAXlrpmGs Nov 07 21:06:32 this is the news Nov 07 21:07:09 oh nice, i'll check it out Nov 07 21:07:27 I'm the skinnier one Nov 07 21:07:29 *younger Nov 07 21:07:30 Starring, "The Poosh" Nov 07 21:07:47 actually mentioned by nick there Nov 07 21:07:53 ha Nov 07 21:09:17 thepoosh you should be wearing one of your CMRA thingies ! Nov 07 21:09:35 don't have an apple watch Nov 07 21:14:22 congratz thepoosh Nov 07 21:14:33 thanks :) Nov 07 21:14:38 now i get why you linked me some stuff related to firebase in those previous days lol Nov 07 21:15:16 thepoosh CTO sounds a little nervous Nov 07 21:15:34 felt like i was the nervous one Nov 07 21:15:53 adq: it was squ Nov 07 21:16:00 you have a similar nick Nov 07 21:16:03 ahah Nov 07 21:16:06 he wanted me to ask about something Nov 07 21:18:18 no worry Nov 07 21:19:33 thepoosh so which firebase product did you use ? Nov 07 21:19:50 sounds like crash reporting and or analytics ? Nov 07 21:19:59 yeah, the graph is bulshit but it's close to home Nov 07 21:20:04 we use some more things Nov 07 21:20:10 but that is our current main use Nov 07 21:21:23 "life is much much better now" Nov 07 21:21:42 nice thepoosh ;) Nov 07 21:22:01 :) Nov 07 21:22:11 yeah ~~ dealing with a lot of logging from a bunch of systems is a tough one Nov 07 21:22:35 i had that problem at my last employer, but we didn't have any tools, and i had no idea how to deal with it Nov 07 21:23:06 now there is a nice book i've been reading along https://www.manning.com/books/unified-log-processing Nov 07 21:23:33 but its been in process for years lol, slow author. the tools they talk about we didn't have back then either Nov 07 21:23:43 more devops / backend stuff Nov 07 21:26:50 thepoosh how was the rest of the conference? learn any other good tricks? Nov 07 21:26:59 a few nice things Nov 07 21:27:34 thepoosh so, is firebase in beta or not? i think Mavrik said it was Nov 07 21:31:22 crash reporting is out of beta Nov 07 21:31:34 I think analytics was released in IO Nov 07 21:31:42 FCM is released Nov 07 21:31:50 config is still changing Nov 07 21:34:04 We have analytics deployed and it's horrible in comparison to fabric.io Nov 07 21:38:01 mmm, this is new tho: Nov 07 21:38:02 https://firebase.googleblog.com/2016/11/live-from-firebase-dev-summit-in-berlin.html Nov 07 21:40:55 "Firebase Analytics now offers live reporting, a new integration with Google “Data Studio”, and real-time exporting to BigQuery." Nov 07 21:41:01 what is Data Studio ? Nov 07 21:41:31 One of a whole host of new services for which authentication is still inexplicably very weird Nov 07 21:51:24 how to do this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10846455/how-to-change-default-list-path-of-avd-manager-in-linux on linux ?? I mean... any new hint ? Nov 07 21:52:45 as they said, symbolic link or edit config Nov 07 21:52:49 I never understood what "devops" means Nov 07 21:53:13 Melatonina: It means "noob with a degree" Nov 07 21:53:16 ;) Nov 07 21:54:27 uhm :-/ Nov 07 21:55:26 i'm playing with certificates atm: http://imgur.com/a/ss5dC Nov 07 21:55:42 thinking of _not_ making a lib to display chain + details Nov 07 22:24:15 I'm trying to configure Fiddler to use it with Android Emulator but it blocks many (if not all) web pages and I can't browse for information. Does anybody know what it says the even google is not secure? Nov 07 22:27:11 i think it’s cause you have a Man in the Middle proxy Nov 07 22:27:22 at least with Charles, you need to install a certificate Nov 07 22:30:50 I don't understand. What certificate do I have to install? Can't I tell fiddler to shut up and mind his own business? Nov 07 22:31:35 just disable your proxy Nov 07 22:31:58 it's breaking https for obvious reasons including MitM as s73v3r said Nov 07 22:32:16 MitM? Nov 07 22:32:19 man in the middle Nov 07 22:32:21 Man in the MIddle Nov 07 22:32:25 Ah Nov 07 22:32:51 it's a typical eavesdropping metaphor, if you did not know Nov 07 22:32:59 Yes, I know that Nov 07 22:33:02 and it’s not Fiddler that’s complaining, it’s the browser in Android that’s complaining Nov 07 22:33:09 No Nov 07 22:33:21 I have this problem when I google from my desktop's browser Nov 07 22:33:27 I still have to configure the emulator Nov 07 22:33:31 cause Fiddler is running there too Nov 07 22:33:54 Can't I disable this protection? Nov 07 22:33:59 don't use https Nov 07 22:34:07 you could, but it’d be a terrible, terrible idea Nov 07 22:34:21 Well, I normally google things and I didn't die Nov 07 22:34:30 so it must not be a terrible idea Nov 07 22:34:41 do whatever you want. I’m not your mother Nov 07 22:34:53 I don't understand what you are saying Nov 07 22:35:02 he said, nuf' said Nov 07 22:35:04 I use my browser normally. I have no problems Nov 07 22:35:13 because your browser is watching for these attacks Nov 07 22:35:17 I run Fiddler, my connection are blocked Nov 07 22:35:23 -_-' Nov 07 22:35:28 because now they’re detecting a man in the middle attack Nov 07 22:35:51 who is detecting it? My browser or Fiddler? Nov 07 22:35:55 THE BROWSER Nov 07 22:35:59 THE THING THAT’S COMPLAINING Nov 07 22:35:59 Ok Nov 07 22:36:22 I thought the browser was display an error page provided by the proxy Nov 07 22:36:27 no Nov 07 22:36:31 Sorry, I misinterpreted the situation Nov 07 22:36:32 Ok Nov 07 22:36:45 Thanks for explaining that Nov 07 22:38:18 You must think I'm an idiot Nov 07 22:38:33 no, i was thinking you’re being obtuse Nov 07 22:39:57 I'm not obtuse nor idiot Nov 07 22:40:25 I found a web page about this issue: http://www.telerik.com/blogs/configuring-firefox-for-fiddler Nov 07 22:40:42 Yes, I must configure Firefox to trust Fiddler's root certificate Nov 07 22:40:54 which is what I said at the beginning Nov 07 22:40:59 you’re gonna have to do the same for Android Nov 07 22:41:37 this is very dangerous Nov 07 22:41:53 and not even a single mention of "don't forget to remove this untrusted authority from authority list Nov 07 22:41:58 and it's probably a bad place to put their cert too Nov 07 22:42:29 Yes. But as said I misinterpreted what you told me. Now I understood Nov 07 22:42:42 well, i'm not judging Nov 07 22:43:04 just be sure to remove their cert after finishing your stuff with this proxyu Nov 07 22:43:40 at least from FF. If you install it in the emulator, you should be fine keeping it Nov 07 22:43:47 there are other tools, like charles proxy, or sthetho might be useful for you too depending on what you do Nov 07 22:43:53 stetho* Nov 07 22:44:02 charles would have them do the same thing Nov 07 22:44:05 sure Nov 07 22:45:02 Charles is not free, this is not. Actually I just want to block internet connection for the emulator, to test the code path used when internet connections fail Nov 07 22:45:17 you don’t need either for that Nov 07 22:45:18 Sorry, I meant. Charles is not free, Fiddler is Nov 07 22:45:29 Someone told me I need it here Nov 07 22:45:47 no, you can just turn on airplane mode Nov 07 22:45:59 Eh Nov 07 22:46:12 Thanks Nov 07 22:46:16 Total time: 4 mins 39.37 secs Nov 07 22:46:16 saves you from having to configure proxies Nov 07 22:46:17 lol Nov 07 22:46:37 I don't need proxies now. I'm happy to deal with them at a later time Nov 07 22:46:41 Thanks very much Nov 07 22:47:39 you could also just turn off the network on your computer :p Nov 07 22:48:13 That's a bit too much :) Nov 07 22:48:34 I'm googling Android stuff all the time Nov 07 22:50:59 Moreover, once I disabled the network on my computer (Windows 10) and each time I attempted to enable it again, the computer rebooted Nov 07 22:51:10 I had to re-install Windows 10 Nov 07 22:51:22 So I never touch that setting anymore Nov 07 22:51:45 If I need, I just disconnect the Ethernet cable Nov 07 22:52:02 oO Nov 07 22:52:03 that’d be good enough Nov 07 22:53:09 the emulator has "make the network crappy" settings Nov 07 22:53:40 but those might need to be set on startup Nov 07 22:54:23 I done seen em while looking around in AVD Nov 07 22:54:46 Never saw them Nov 07 22:56:43 i thought they were command line options Nov 07 22:56:57 i haven’t looked at the new emulator yet, so they might have moved them Nov 07 22:59:58 Melatonina: http://postimg.org/image/kc8jz121d/ Nov 07 23:00:30 you get to it by clicking the three balls at the bottom of the controls on the right of the emulator screen Nov 07 23:15:29 hi there Nov 07 23:24:46 rager: those settings have no effect, apparently. The Airplain mode actually stops Internet Nov 07 23:25:52 Airplane Nov 07 23:28:52 Went to execute aapt from terminal and noticed it was not in my path. How do you guys keep the latest build-tools in your path? Nov 07 23:28:59 PATH="${ANDROID_HOME}/build-tools/$(ls ${ANDROID_HOME}/build-tools | sort -r | head -n 1):${PATH}" Nov 07 23:29:16 Just added that to my bash profile. Feels ugly Nov 07 23:29:47 If you have an /etc/profile.d directory the rest should be easy to figure out Nov 08 00:30:24 Hi all in bluetooth/ble development is the device.getAddress() unique for each unit ? Nov 08 00:36:43 It really depends Nov 08 00:37:29 For example, the beacons that im working with can have an address with the last number in the address representing up to 8 different values Nov 08 01:05:20 FATAL EXCEPTION: main java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to start activity ComponentInfo{info.androidhive.materialdesign/info.androidhive.materialdesign.activity.SignInActivity}: java.lang.IllegalStateException: FirebaseApp with name [DEFAULT] doesn't exist. Nov 08 01:05:23 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37342403/firebaseapp-with-name-default-doesnt-exist Nov 08 01:14:37 how can I solve that issue? Nov 08 01:21:29 orbyt_: thanks - what beacons you working with ? I also have a beacon platofrm called Proxitee - which is a beacon CMS Nov 08 01:24:02 They're BLE devices that I believe use iBeacon, hence the varying addresses I mentioned. Nov 08 01:30:04 anyone mind helping me out? Nov 08 01:42:04 orbyt_: yeah I know about beacons - I'm curious what you working on - Nov 08 01:42:56 I have a class that reoprts this > has leaked <-- how do i track it ? Nov 08 01:45:46 fels: Utility application and SDK for a client. Nov 08 01:46:40 orbyt_: any chance you can check out Proxitee as the CMS back end ? I'd be happy to chat Nov 08 01:59:23 fels: I can mention it to my client, though im not entirely sure what your platform does. Nov 08 02:01:14 orbyt_: most beacon solutions provide data based on the interation with the beacon - we provide a way to manage that content in real time - so when you trigger a beacon it fetches data from proxitee and delivers it to the your app Nov 08 02:06:01 So I assume the flow is something like: Walk past a beacon -> event registered -> network request to cms backend. Is that right? Nov 08 02:06:12 Also, your /docs route is broken. Nov 08 02:15:50 orbyt_: yes - thanks for pointing out the docs link - will look into this Nov 08 02:17:38 here's a mov of the cms : http://cdn.felsgroup.com/proxitee/ProxiteeCMS.mov Nov 08 02:48:52 Hey guys so I am using picasso and I have an app that has a main activity with 3 fragments, now when I load the activity the 3 fragments load, and for some reason it takes a really long time to load the images - I have 30 images in a gridview and another fragment has 30 images in a list layout full screen (using recyclerview and picasso) for both... is there anything particular that might be slowing it up? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 08 03:00:00 2016