**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 06 03:00:00 2016 Dec 06 03:17:44 I want to write a simple Android program that listens for a particular sort of Bluetooth request from a paired device and sends a small amount of data in response. Is that sort of thing possible without requiring it to always run in the background? Dec 06 03:51:56 how do i remove a folder from an AS project. i do not want to delete the folder or its contents, just remove it from the project structure Dec 06 04:54:13 mark4: did you check settings.gradle? Dec 06 04:54:34 mark4: look for "include" and "project" directives Dec 06 04:54:38 i checked everythng and nothing would remove it Dec 06 04:54:55 i removed it from there, after closing AS, relaunched and that directory was back Dec 06 04:55:08 so i moved my project dir and am recreating from scratch, i still have the old dir Dec 06 04:55:18 mark4: then take a gun and shoot the screen. After that, don't scroll Dec 06 04:55:29 its a good idea to do this anyway because i have no idea what step/steps lead to success earlier Dec 06 04:56:05 i think i need to delete the project AND delete the .androidstudio directory Dec 06 04:56:22 it has added the directory into the new project too Dec 06 04:57:25 maybe it's a virus Dec 06 04:57:35 exactly Dec 06 04:57:37 a google virus Dec 06 04:57:53 Recently Visual Studio and Android Studio become target of viruses Dec 06 04:58:08 Eclipse seems to be immune Dec 06 04:58:40 actual viruses? Dec 06 04:58:44 in windows only Dec 06 04:59:07 no. I made it up Dec 06 04:59:10 anyone who runs a m$ operating system for any reason deserves everything they get :P Dec 06 04:59:33 and the reason eclipse is immune is because it is a virus too Dec 06 04:59:51 one that attacks the sanity of anyone who uses it way more than AS does Dec 06 04:59:55 the only virus I know is an IRC virus called mark4 Dec 06 05:00:35 theres no cure either Dec 06 05:00:41 because, let's be honest, all the stuff you write here can't be produced by a single human being Dec 06 05:06:37 i cannot remove the cpp directory. i did not enable cpp support Dec 06 05:37:40 http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/12/05/the-slow-uninteresting-death-of-android-tablets-is-unfolding-and-it-is-no-ones-fault/ Dec 06 05:51:30 :( Dec 06 05:59:25 * capella is fascinated by the drama :) Dec 06 05:59:37 melatonia has a new friend Dec 06 06:00:38 Melatonina, is it a 'bot? Dec 06 06:00:45 ;) Dec 06 06:17:04 capella: there is no drama. I was joking as usual. I just find him curious because he writes a lot even if nobody answers. That's all Dec 06 06:18:20 heh, but it was interesting subject matter iir some nice low-level asm stuff(?) Dec 06 06:21:11 yes, he works with native code in C++ I think. That was not the case today but I think he does that often Dec 06 06:21:59 g00s says he uses this channel as his rubber duck :) Dec 06 06:24:38 yah :-D I can relate Dec 06 06:25:23 i thought mark4 had asm from a forth compiler Dec 06 06:25:55 or something ;) Dec 06 06:26:02 somehow forth was involved, I missed that part of the glue Dec 06 06:28:38 bah, the speaker cable I bought yesterday is the wrong one Dec 06 06:57:55 * raoul11 thepooshes thepoosh Dec 06 07:02:11 oh hi there Dec 06 07:02:21 hi budyy Dec 06 07:02:38 still trying to fully grasp finale of westworld Dec 06 07:04:10 no spoilers Dec 06 07:04:17 didnt even start it yet Dec 06 07:06:34 watch away Dec 06 07:07:51 ill start today Dec 06 07:07:58 whats on the agenda today thepoosh Dec 06 07:11:51 was it the finale? Dec 06 07:12:01 episode 10? Dec 06 07:12:19 hi raoul11 Dec 06 07:12:31 o/ Melatonina Dec 06 07:18:37 raoul11: regenerating my DB Dec 06 07:18:40 with a new schema Dec 06 07:19:00 regenerate liek a baws thepoosh Dec 06 07:19:25 talk to corporate like a baws Dec 06 07:21:15 thepoosh decided to add custom events allover coz without bigquery, firebase analytics is useless Dec 06 07:22:30 oh myy Dec 06 07:32:00 Hi, I am using glide to load my images as centercrop, but when view is resized, the image is not center croped anymore, is there a workaround? Dec 06 07:49:52 I'm trying to use ORMLite, however I keep having a crash when loading my DAO because "No fields have a DatabaseField annotation in class java.lang.String" here's the crash plus my class: https://gist.github.com/Syzygy2048/6e5b95303bfe4006becce557ef31c546 Dec 06 07:56:59 Syzygy: is ORMLite still supported? Dec 06 07:57:35 didn't find anything that would indicate otherwise Dec 06 08:16:56 "thepoosh" sounds familiar ... didn't we meet on a bear hunt in Canada once ? :-P Dec 06 08:21:07 capella: doesn't look like anything to me Dec 06 08:21:24 hello, any recommendation for a socket library for android app ? Dec 06 08:21:48 sci-fic: OkHttp Dec 06 08:21:49 mmm ? Dec 06 08:22:12 beer hunt in canada and I get a question mark?! Dec 06 08:22:25 sci-fic: are you talking about websockets? Dec 06 08:22:31 or plain java socket Dec 06 08:23:17 thepoosh: between local machines Dec 06 08:23:33 you have to hunt beer in Canada? it's domesticated in most countries now... /me rethinks plan to go to Canada next month Dec 06 08:24:01 heh, yah, was mentally recalibrating over that bit :-/ Dec 06 08:24:02 heh Dec 06 08:24:19 sci-fic: Java has a built in socket class Dec 06 08:28:15 leeds, a couple months back I drove up to the border around Oswego to be sure them Canadians weren't invading Dec 06 08:28:16 ... cause you know, ... there's no wall Dec 06 08:29:04 they are sneaky, those meese Dec 06 08:29:52 I thought Mr. Garrison built a wall Dec 06 08:30:06 hahahaha ... I love that thing Dec 06 08:30:35 actually, it was the fucking mongolians that had me more worried Dec 06 08:30:55 They almost got Pennsylvania Dec 06 08:30:55 GOD DAMM MOGORIANS Dec 06 08:32:11 * capella shakes fist .... o/ Dec 06 08:33:11 shitty wok may I take your order prease? Dec 06 08:34:36 * capella doesn't have tree-fiddy .... :-/ Dec 06 08:35:46 But I do have enough sense to have finally bailed on upstate NY \o/ Dec 06 08:36:05 Loch Ness Monsta! Dec 06 08:36:24 capella: you from upstate NY? Dec 06 08:36:32 I was there for a few months years ago Dec 06 08:37:03 Originally Syracuse ... spent more time in Atlanta, big chunk in Miami ... Charlotte, likes contracting Dec 06 08:37:17 Didja do Heids? Dec 06 08:37:31 Dinosaur? Dec 06 08:37:35 nah, worked there Dec 06 08:37:40 Orange game? Dec 06 08:37:56 wait, wat? Dec 06 08:38:04 in the middle of the triangle of Syracuse, Binghamton and Albani Dec 06 08:38:16 in a plcae called Guilford Dec 06 08:38:32 worked there for 2 summers Dec 06 08:38:45 mmm, I did an interview there I never ... well, it felt like a miss Dec 06 08:38:55 not Guilford proper Dec 06 08:39:00 in that direction Dec 06 08:40:50 Oh yah, Guilford seems remote :) Dec 06 08:44:06 Hi Dec 06 08:44:19 it was in the middle of fucking nowhere Dec 06 08:45:21 If I have a website and want to show it in a webview, a) how can I make sure that the mobile version of the website is always loaded? b) How can I pass values from android to website? c) how can I pass values/data on certain events from website to android? Dec 06 08:59:07 wait !? Then I think I spotted you again thepoosh at this little water park in Florida !!! This is so weird Dec 06 08:59:27 capella: what ARE you talking about?! Dec 06 08:59:36 i was never in Flroda Dec 06 08:59:37 heeheehee Dec 06 08:59:40 *Florida Dec 06 09:00:30 yah, you were this frumpy fat asian woman with red frizzy hair Dec 06 09:03:31 thepoosh is secretly a mossad agent pretending he's a lead dev and an expert in firebase Dec 06 09:03:44 I was the Zohan Dec 06 09:04:12 you wish Dec 06 09:04:24 hate adam sandler Dec 06 09:04:42 also, he was such a bad israei character Dec 06 09:04:46 NOT OPERA MAN !!!! Dec 06 09:04:48 why do so many people h8 adam sandler Dec 06 09:05:15 because he sux Dec 06 09:05:45 Cajun man? Dec 06 09:08:15 yah that can't be right ... I don't know a single woman that loves Southpark, or basic "stooge" comedy :) Dec 06 10:27:44 does anyone remember something about the AOSP integrating Glide image loader? Dec 06 11:08:50 thepoosh, you say ORMlite is no longer maintained, would you recommend any library for database instead? Dec 06 11:15:39 either https://github.com/square/sqldelight or https://github.com/greenrobot/greenDAO Dec 06 11:17:17 ormlite has seen some recent development Dec 06 11:17:38 but I like https://github.com/requery/requery Dec 06 11:22:45 https://github.com/j256/ormlite-android/tree/master/src/main/java/com/j256/ormlite Dec 06 11:34:45 Hi, can I open the widget picker screen and scroll to my specific widget programmatically? Dec 06 11:42:04 thepoosh, yeah? Dec 06 11:52:01 Any idea why I can't build? It states Unsupported major.minor version 52.0, but I don't see where I'm using anything with such a version. Dec 06 11:52:03 https://gist.github.com/Syzygy2048/faf45fa0559f3586eb723060a9be7507 Dec 06 11:52:28 here's the result of gradlew --stacktrace and both of my gradle files Dec 06 11:58:36 If i try to just run the app, i get this error though : First problem: Dec 06 11:58:36 Pb(178) The assignment to variable iconName has no effect (536871090 at line 177). Dec 06 12:14:26 If I have a website and want to show it in a webview, a) how can I make sure that the mobile version of the website is always loaded? b) How can I pass values from android to website? c) how can I pass values/data on certain events from website to android? Dec 06 12:22:02 Sircle_: The answer to (c) is discussed here: https://developer.android.com/guide/webapps/webview.html#BindingJavaScript Dec 06 12:22:18 I guess the answer to (a) is user-agent detection and the answer to (b) is HTTP POST/PUT. Dec 06 12:34:52 Hello. I'm trying to sort out text lines beginning with a #. In the terminal "grep ^[#]" works fine, but in java it doesn't work at all: if(line.matches("^[#]")){ System.out.println("Mupp: " + line); } Dec 06 12:36:58 Bleke: I can't remember, but that probably should work. Can you pastebin the code? Dec 06 12:37:18 I'll try Dec 06 12:39:10 http://pastebin.com/fJb3yxUN a bit messy because I'm trying various things to find out what's wrong Dec 06 12:42:10 Bleke: That won't work because it tries to match the entire string with that regex (rather than part of the string). Dec 06 12:42:25 Bleke: there is match and find i think, one assumes thrbentire line thenother doesnt Dec 06 12:43:00 For example, `"#test".matches("^[#].*")` evalues to true. Dec 06 12:43:29 Ok, so I'll have to substring the first character? Dec 06 12:43:39 But `"#test#".matches("^[#]")` evaluates to false, as you've found. Dec 06 12:43:44 #test * Dec 06 12:44:13 Bleke: I think the best solution is not to use String.matches and instead, as wyoung mentions, the other regex stuff (Matcher and so on). Dec 06 12:44:33 Oh, yeah, you could just check the first character. Dec 06 12:44:49 If you're simply wanting to know whether a line starts with '#', using regexes is a bad solution. Dec 06 12:45:40 Well, when one writes regexps like that, sure Dec 06 12:46:11 Yeah, I'm awful both at programming and regex :) Dec 06 12:46:48 I did try ~[#].* in the terminal, but grep didn't like it Dec 06 12:47:04 ^[#].* Dec 06 12:47:35 Thanks for the help! Dec 06 12:48:00 Bleke: _Why_ are you using the brackets? Dec 06 12:48:16 Dagmar: Even without the character class, using regexes here is a bad idea. Dec 06 12:48:40 Dagmar: Because I don't know any better Dec 06 12:48:45 Considering there's a way to just compare that first character? Sure Dec 06 12:49:19 Bleke: It's literally just ^# that you're looking for, and in bash/grep it would be `grep '^#' filename` Dec 06 12:49:25 I did have a % that I wanted to remove too, so originally it was ^[#%] Dec 06 12:50:38 That's reasonable Dec 06 12:53:15 Hey all, I have an intent filter on an activity to pick up a custom URL scheme. That works perfectly, but whenever I hit that activity from within the app, I see there's 2 windows of the app ope, not just one, how can I stop that? Dec 06 12:54:00 Maybe you could help me with the / delimeter regex too? The lines I try to read looks like this: "月份會議月份会议 [yue4 fen4 hui4 yi4] /monthly meeting/monthly conference/" Dec 06 12:54:04 "#test#".matches("^[#]") should, as far as I know, still evaluate to true even with the needless brackets Dec 06 12:54:23 Dunno about the _syntax_ of it tho because that's ugly Dec 06 12:54:25 Dagmar: No, as stated above. Dec 06 12:55:04 sdousley: Look into putting android:launchMode in your manifest Dec 06 12:56:03 Bleke: You just backslash escape the slashes Dec 06 12:56:35 \\/*\\/? Dec 06 12:56:42 That would easily be represented as a set of alternating matches for singular slash, and multiple things-which-are-not-slash Dec 06 12:57:09 im trying to mimic a drawerlayout toggle button behavior: rotate 90 degrees back and forth when the drawer is opening and closing with this code: http://pastebin.com/g9u5asc5 <<-- however, it only fires when the drawer is opened or closed, so theres an annoyin latency Dec 06 12:57:31 Bleke: No... pretty sure you just need _one_ backslash at a time, dude. Dec 06 12:57:36 tryin to hack around it and lookin for ideas Dec 06 12:58:22 Bleke: If you put '\\' in there you get a _literal_ search for just \, which is not what you're looking for. Dec 06 12:58:24 raoul11: Yeah, that's not gonna work if they slowly slide the drawer. Dec 06 12:58:25 Hm, ok. This regex stuff is confusing.. I read that sometimes you need four backslashed to get a single one. :) Dec 06 12:58:29 raoul11: Can they even see the button? Dec 06 12:58:36 yes Dec 06 12:58:42 Bleke: You read something written by someone who didn't know what they were talking about Dec 06 12:58:54 raoul11: According to material design, they shouldn't be able to. But I guess you have a reason. Dec 06 12:59:05 Bleke: ...which is actually a lot of people because regexps are meant to be efficient, not easy Dec 06 12:59:09 they shouldnt see the hamburger button? Dec 06 12:59:35 I mean that the drawer should cover the hamburger button. Dec 06 12:59:36 Dagmar: I think it's more likely that I didn't understand what I was reading Dec 06 12:59:48 oh Dec 06 12:59:54 it doesnt, its right below it Dec 06 13:00:16 It's easy to avoid that when using DrawerLayout. Dec 06 13:00:22 Bleke: Often it helps to just write down in plain English what it is you're going to be looking for, in as few words as possible Dec 06 13:00:55 Dagmar: Good tip! Dec 06 13:01:05 raoul11: Check out the Google Play app. Dec 06 13:01:22 raoul11: I don't think they even bother animating the hamburger button. You wouldn't be able to see much or anything if they did. Dec 06 13:01:45 interesting Dec 06 13:01:50 If I open it slowly, I see no animation whatsoever. Dec 06 13:01:59 i can control it faster with the button clicks, but not with the listener Dec 06 13:02:13 The listener doesn't fire until the drawer is fully open/closed and settled. Dec 06 13:02:23 Bleke: If that's "/soemstuff/someotherstuff/" you can pretty much just say '^\/[^\/]+\/[^\/]+\/$' Dec 06 13:02:26 so a slide/tap outside the drawerlayout doesnt trigger that event Dec 06 13:02:44 onDrawerSlide seems like a hack Dec 06 13:03:08 Dagmar: Why would you escape the '/'? I don't think '/' needs to be escaped at all. Dec 06 13:03:12 Bleke: ...which is rather EVIL in that it it visibly contains a lot of bloody backslashes. Dec 06 13:03:27 TacticalJoke: Ack. Force of habit from sed lol Dec 06 13:03:35 it outputs floats between 0 (closed) and 1 (open) Dec 06 13:04:35 Yeah, it probably shouldn't be escaped. illegal escape character iterator.useDelimiter("\/") Dec 06 13:04:42 ...and like, the forty-three million times I've detained input in perl with those, where I usually just use m|| to avoid the issue altogether Dec 06 13:05:00 Bleke: That'd be `\\/`, but yeah it's not needed. Dec 06 13:05:51 Ok, I've made a little progress now. Time for lunch. Thanks guys! :) Dec 06 13:06:06 Bleke: Well, I'm certain it doesn't need to be escaped here because we're not wrapping the whole thing in /slashes/ to begin with, so we don't have to worry about there being confusion with the _end_ of the regex Dec 06 13:07:05 Dagmar: Sounds right Dec 06 13:07:39 Bleke: I may have been exaggerating with forty-three "million", but "thousand" would probably be right Dec 06 13:07:50 I've written a crapton of regexps Dec 06 13:08:54 There's a zen to it. They _do_ get easier to work with over time. Dec 06 13:09:47 why would showing a notification result in an android.os.DeadObjectException? Dec 06 13:09:49 Hi, can I open the widget picker screen and scroll to my specific widget programmatically? Dec 06 13:11:28 Dagmar: There's an Android game called Rex. Probably too easy for you, but for a beginner it's a pretty fun way to learn. But it doesn't have any special characters. Not as far as I've played anyway. Dec 06 13:12:50 Bleke: Just remember. If a stranger ever offers you back-references, just say "No!" Dec 06 13:13:07 :) Dec 06 13:14:10 They're the first step on the road to writing rexeps that can and will run amok and gobble ludicrous amounts of CPU time as they attempt to solve for np-completeness Dec 06 13:15:13 I'll keep that in mind. Well, got to go! Dec 06 13:29:39 Dagmar: I already have that in there as singleInstance Dec 06 13:30:28 sdousley: Are you saying there are two copies of the same Activity? Dec 06 13:30:34 Or two app entries in the overview screen? Dec 06 13:30:40 TacticalJoke: no, 2 app entries in the overview Dec 06 13:31:18 one being the screen with the intent on it, the other being the rest of the app Dec 06 13:32:14 sdousley: Does something like this work? http://stackoverflow.com/a/5502950 I'm not sure. Dec 06 13:32:29 The issue is that you're starting a new task from the notification (rather than resuming the existing task). Dec 06 13:33:03 TacticalJoke: so use that code in the button within the app that opens the intent? Dec 06 13:35:42 sdousley: Whichever code creates the intent for the notification. Though I have no idea whether it works; I haven't done notification stuff lately. Dec 06 13:37:57 This might be a good Google query otherwise: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=notification+existing+task Dec 06 13:38:03 Maybe "+android". Dec 06 13:46:43 TacticalJoke: I don't mind the notification opening in a new frame, it makes coming out of it a lot easier. Dec 06 13:46:53 it's more the internal to the app that I'd like (if possible) to fix Dec 06 13:46:55 Is there any way to add widgets to home screen programmatically? Dec 06 13:47:05 so clicking that activity from the menu just opens it in the existing window, rather than opening a new screen Dec 06 13:48:05 Which menu? I'm confused about what you're describing now. Dec 06 14:02:35 hi. I just installed android studio on arch linux. would you recommend that I run it occasionally (and, in particular, the first time) as root to make it update itself in /opt/android*? Dec 06 14:03:24 I don't think I'd mind it breaking free of the package manager's control since it's in /opt after all. Dec 06 14:09:55 Is it now recommended to use RecyclerView instead of ScrollView for a simple horizontal scroll with some imageview objects in it? Dec 06 14:11:08 Bernzel: Has it ever been recommended to use ScrollView for that? :D Dec 06 14:11:52 Oh, horizontal. Misread. Dec 06 14:12:06 TacticalJoke, dunno if you're ironical or not :p but it just seem like RecyclerView is the most versatile tool ever atm Dec 06 14:14:20 TacticalJoke dropped the rotate idea /: Dec 06 14:14:31 so HorizontalScrollView would be fine to use for this ? Dec 06 14:14:52 depends. Dec 06 14:15:07 raoul11: Are you gonna overlay the app bar with the navigation drawer? Dec 06 14:15:14 To be honest, if you don't, your app will feel outdates. Dec 06 14:15:17 outdated* Dec 06 14:15:23 am not using an appbar Dec 06 14:15:34 Where is the hamburger icon? Surely that's in the app bar. Dec 06 14:15:43 in a fake appbar Dec 06 14:15:49 floating on the top right Dec 06 14:16:25 if shareX wasnt bitching, id screenshot it Dec 06 14:17:39 sshine, don't run it as root, it'll f* up your installation Dec 06 14:18:00 instead change ownership / add write permissions to /opt/android* if you want autoupdate Dec 06 14:18:08 http://i.imgur.com/HSpOfXg.png | http://i.imgur.com/THKHEOy.png TacticalJoke Dec 06 14:18:31 Oh, it's on the right. Hmm. Dec 06 14:19:01 Is there a reason the drawer isn't also on the right? Just curious. Dec 06 14:19:16 didnt like it Dec 06 14:19:35 the hamburger is on the right coz the coins counter grows heaps Dec 06 14:19:58 so it could find itself in the 3/4 up and not tabbed to the right Dec 06 14:20:18 also, i think its easier to reach on the right Dec 06 14:27:21 Mavrik, okay. Dec 06 14:54:30 hi everybody... can anybody tell me if it's possible to tell a recyclerview how many ViewHolders it should create and bind? Dec 06 14:54:44 (which will be off screen of course) Dec 06 14:55:12 evident: yes Dec 06 14:55:27 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26245139/how-to-create-recyclerview-with-multiple-view-type Dec 06 14:56:07 because I am using a custom RecyclerView which imitates a ViewPager. Unfortunately, when I start the activity with it inside, it will only create and bind the first item. When I start scrolling, it will create and bind 2 more viewholders depending on the direction I scroll in Dec 06 14:57:03 thepoosh https://i.reddituploads.com/4addc832a52942bbbc2ccdc7b2d9f89b?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=1df755e571acad7e51d612e44b5f0a53 Dec 06 14:57:11 thepoosh: I am not looking for different view holder types, I just need to change how many views it will keep in cache at the back Dec 06 14:57:35 you can implenet the layoutManager youself Dec 06 14:57:40 and cach all of them! Dec 06 14:58:16 do you have any additional info on that? I found that the linearlayoutmanager looks quite complex Dec 06 14:58:31 they are complex Dec 06 14:58:46 Any idea https://gist.github.com/Syzygy2048/1d1edd312f5653927cf193fa41baa18b why my geofences don't work? Dec 06 14:58:53 they never seem to be triggered Dec 06 14:59:01 do you have permissions? Dec 06 14:59:18 yes Dec 06 14:59:36 assume that geofenceList is a list containing valid geofences and are where I expect them to be Dec 06 15:00:09 hmm yeah definitely... I was just hoping there is something like the "offScreenPageLimit" for ViewPager :( Dec 06 15:01:18 thebishop, onPermissionGranted is getting called, so the register call is executed. Dec 06 15:02:56 sorry this was supposed to be directed at thepoosh Dec 06 15:03:31 you get a beep, you get a beep! everybody gets a beep!!! Dec 06 15:03:32 the status code I get from the callback is Success btw Dec 06 15:04:44 Syzygy: suppressWarning("MissingPermission")?! Dec 06 15:04:50 that's fishy Dec 06 15:05:05 it just supresses the warning Dec 06 15:05:36 which one, could it be you're actually missing a permission? Dec 06 15:05:41 which might explain the issue Dec 06 15:07:29 it would still result in a crash or if my permission handler works correctyl, a call to onPermissionDenied instead of onPermissionGranted Dec 06 15:08:04 besides, ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION is working as I can find my own location on maps Dec 06 15:08:31 when I render the 100 geofences i have to maps, they're also displayed the way I expect them to be Dec 06 16:46:00 hello guys. Dec 06 16:46:09 ioctl(KVM_CREATE_VM) failed: 16 Device or resource busy Dec 06 16:46:09 failed to initialize KVM: Device or resource busy Dec 06 16:46:23 I can't run the emulator while VirtualBox is running. Dec 06 16:52:10 is there a good solution? Dec 06 16:53:39 anyone here have APu to work with Android virtual device ? Dec 06 16:54:10 i have installed android studio on ubuntu and have Apu ( amd cpu ) Dec 06 17:07:46 i've got a manifest file with layout parameters specified for an entry. that's just wrong, right? Seems like it's harmlessly ignored by the system but they shouldn't be there Dec 06 17:20:16 thebishop: In _most_ cases with XML if the tags aren't recognized they're just gracefully ignored Dec 06 17:20:42 Dagmar, that's what i'm seeing, i just wanted to confirm that this is actually the wrong thing to do Dec 06 17:21:19 unless you do schema validation, it'll generally be ignored Dec 06 17:22:15 I am using Firebase for authentication and would like to redirect to my main app if the user is already signed in. I have an idea how to do it however my authlistener is in a parent class. Should I add a second listener in my login class or is there a method I can use in the parent? coder here: https://gist.github.com/coder2000/d6c83f1aa13e39678485f1a7dfff731c Dec 06 17:22:15 thebishop: "wrong thing to do" doesn't begin to describe it. Someone shoudln't be sticking declarations into just whateve file they find handiest Dec 06 17:22:40 Dagmar, lol take it easy, it was probably me! Dec 06 17:22:56 Don' do that then. Dec 06 17:23:04 yep, yanking it Dec 06 17:27:13 oh when, oh when, will the sdk25 sources be released Dec 06 17:38:27 Dagmar, thanks, btw Dec 06 17:39:03 hi all Dec 06 17:39:26 anyone got experience using the itextpdf JAR library in Android? I'm having trouble with ProGuard. Dec 06 17:40:02 I have specified -keep class com.itextpdf.** { *; } but still have about 1400+ unresolved classes - mainly java.awt.* javax.imageio.* etc. Dec 06 17:40:45 try without proguard, you will probably get similar issue with java.awt.* Dec 06 17:40:58 if true, meaning it has nothing to do with proguard Dec 06 17:41:25 adq it works without proguard in debug. Dec 06 17:42:51 ok, then try to keep those unresolve class then Dec 06 17:43:13 makes no diff. Dec 06 17:43:30 random reading found: "For example, if ProGuard complains that it can't find a java.awt class, then some library that you are using is referring to java.awt. This is a bit shady, since Android doesn't have this package at all, but if your application works anyway, you can let ProGuard accept it with "-dontwarn java.awt.**", for instance." Dec 06 17:44:02 then test your app to ensure nothing is broken Dec 06 17:44:22 running fine now with `minifyEnabled` disabled Dec 06 17:44:32 in API23 in AVD and on tablet. Dec 06 17:44:55 so if java.awt is 'not supported' then even debug should die. Dec 06 17:44:58 I'm surprised so many people seem to support splash screens (https://reddit.com/5grlac). Splash screens (especially the ones in the Google apps) offer some of the worst user experiences possible. Dec 06 17:45:00 oO Dec 06 17:45:10 basically itextpdf is being used to generate PDFs. Dec 06 17:45:15 and this _works_ (in debug). Dec 06 17:45:15 debug by default don't apply proguard rules except if specified in build.gradle Dec 06 17:45:27 yeah Dec 06 17:45:35 so this boils down to proguard :) Dec 06 17:45:43 and minify works only if proguard is enabled Dec 06 17:45:54 minify is originally the resource shrinker Dec 06 17:45:58 correct Dec 06 17:45:58 but it does much more now Dec 06 17:46:02 (they renamed it even) Dec 06 17:46:20 shrinkResources also disbled that. Dec 06 17:46:30 there is a file to exclude what you don't want to be shrinked Dec 06 17:46:40 is it terribly bad to release a non-minified app? Dec 06 17:46:42 but everytime i used it, it was creating more problems to me than anything Dec 06 17:47:01 sorry, non-obsfuscated Dec 06 17:47:06 (argh spelling) Dec 06 17:47:06 michael_mbp, i don't think it's bad if your app is already light enough (few MB max), but i bet a pdf lib is kinda heavy Dec 06 17:47:11 + all the google support lib & co Dec 06 17:47:24 ahh non-obfuscated is totally not an issue Dec 06 17:47:26 at max the app becomes 25-30mb Dec 06 17:47:30 because it's not really a security feature Dec 06 17:47:31 vs 8-9mb. Dec 06 17:47:43 but obfuscation != optimization like shrink Dec 06 17:47:43 just makes it 'harder' right? Dec 06 17:47:51 sure Dec 06 17:47:59 I'll try with shrink enabled in a sec Dec 06 17:48:02 well, it has been proven to be inefficient Dec 06 17:48:12 so not sure if we can say it makes things harder enough Dec 06 17:48:17 proguard obsfusc or shrink? Dec 06 17:48:23 there is dexguard which is a commercial proguard Dec 06 17:48:35 which raises higher the wall, but it has also been defeated Dec 06 17:48:40 ah Dec 06 17:48:52 thanks for letting me know Dec 06 17:48:53 (same ppl are doing pro and dexguard) Dec 06 17:49:05 the best is probably the support coming from dexguard Dec 06 17:49:34 proguard obsfusc or shrink? < it can do both, and much more Dec 06 17:49:47 lot of code optimizations, it can merge classes and calls to avoid overhead, etc Dec 06 17:50:12 it's crazy all the things it can do, and this is probably why it's always tricky to set it up jsut to be able to compile (not even talking about broking runtime yet) Dec 06 17:50:32 heh. Dec 06 17:50:57 TacticalJoke did you see this? http://blog.davidecoppola.com/2016/12/android-version-distribution-history-visualization-2012-2016/ Dec 06 17:51:45 nice chart Dec 06 17:52:02 Oh, no, didn't see that. Dec 06 17:52:16 g00s is back. :D I was organising a search party. Dec 06 17:52:25 think i'll do minsdk=21 Dec 06 17:52:56 i'm still at 16 Dec 06 17:52:57 TacticalJoke i wouldn't even be able to find myself :P Dec 06 17:53:20 this chart http://blog.davidecoppola.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Android_version_distribution_history_graph_stacked_bar-2016.png Dec 06 17:53:48 if i'm reading this right, looks like 4.4 is dying out quick to 6.0 mostly Dec 06 17:54:13 g00s: I'd definitely do 21. Dec 06 17:54:19 I'm probably gonna go up to 23 before release. Dec 06 17:54:30 <****> 8=100% 10=100% 15=99% 16=98% 17=93% 18=87% 19=85% 21=61% 22=50% 23=27% 24=0% Dec 06 17:54:38 4.4 looks about the same forever Dec 06 17:54:39 the cumulative (stats from official dashboard) Dec 06 17:55:02 21 is like sacrificing almost 40% of users Dec 06 17:55:09 this is why i'm staying on 16 min, atm Dec 06 17:56:24 g00s is sacrificing users on the altar of android api Dec 06 17:56:26 * adq ruins Dec 06 17:56:32 runs* :') instant Dec 06 17:56:34 4.2 is so much bigger than 4.3 Dec 06 17:56:48 adq BLE isn't even "usable" until 4.4 :D Dec 06 17:56:50 that's because 4.3 all got upgraded to 4.4 Dec 06 17:57:04 or newer Dec 06 17:58:23 and indeed, 4.4 looks about the same forever Dec 06 17:58:29 it's not like it's dying easily Dec 06 18:00:31 4.4 went from 36% to 24% in 12 mos; i guess that is pretty slow Dec 06 18:02:46 7.1.1 seems pretty political to me. Dec 06 18:02:53 https://blog.google/products/android/sweet-update-nougat-android-711/ Dec 06 18:03:47 wow title font is black Dec 06 18:04:05 many guidelines have been killed during the writing of this article Dec 06 18:04:40 Should be it some shade of grey? Dec 06 18:05:12 idk the picture is also blur behind Dec 06 18:05:47 they don't mention them, but lot of security fixes Dec 06 18:05:56 but i understand why it's more important to talk about emoji... Dec 06 18:06:21 I wonder whether there'll be a Donald Trump-related release. Dec 06 18:06:53 like something named after Trump, or some kind of security issue or break related to something he dictated? Dec 06 18:07:19