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Dec 31 03:39:30 <roboticGecko> Hallo
Dec 31 03:39:45 <roboticGecko> I was looking for some help with some basic android development
Dec 31 03:40:01 <roboticGecko> Essentially I need to create a circle whose color I can change programatically in some sort of view
Dec 31 03:42:18 <Lvl4Sword> roboticGecko: How (did you learn)/(are you learning) android?
Dec 31 04:13:10 <Dagmar> That's actually easy.  Things to look for specifically are "shape drawables" (with which you draw the circle) and just getting Android Studio working and able to push APKs to your phone
Dec 31 04:13:20 <Dagmar> Oh and ImageViews, but they're trivial
Dec 31 05:28:18 <waterCreature> hello, i need some help with understanding the lifecycle of views/activities
Dec 31 05:28:24 <waterCreature> http://i.imgur.com/Ww6Nhp2.gifv
Dec 31 05:28:59 <waterCreature> the project is on libGDX and OpenCV4Android integration.
Dec 31 05:29:36 <waterCreature> the libGDX view does not stay on the screen on the first run, it re-appears after I press the home button.
Dec 31 05:29:59 <bankai_> libgdx guys have a channel, might be better to ask there
Dec 31 05:30:43 <waterCreature> they are not active.
Dec 31 05:31:09 <waterCreature> i believe it's just a matter of refreshing the screen after onResume() imho.
Dec 31 06:34:40 <tassilo_tazz> Hey, I am really stuck with something in Android Studio.. I know it says not to ask for someone's Skype in the rule book, but I really need help and it's simple because I just started. If anyone can help me I'd really appreciate it.
Dec 31 06:34:57 <tassilo_tazz> I wouldn't be asking if it isn't important
Dec 31 06:40:22 <Lvl4Sword> Dagmar: they left a while ago
Dec 31 06:40:45 <tassilo_tazz> ?
Dec 31 06:41:01 <Lvl4Sword> tassilo_tazz: Why Skype, specifically?
Dec 31 06:41:46 <tassilo_tazz> Doesn't have to be Skype. It can be something else.. if you think I want to DDoS you that's not the case. I just need someone to help me.
Dec 31 07:05:45 <baash05> Hey all. .
Dec 31 07:05:49 <baash05> Back again :)
Dec 31 07:06:02 <Lvl4Sword> baash05: Welcome back
Dec 31 07:06:32 <baash05> I'm trying to get openOptionsMenu();    in a AppCompatActivity to open the options window.
Dec 31 07:06:46 <baash05> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3133318/how-to-open-the-options-menu-programmatically
Dec 31 07:06:49 <baash05> No joy.
Dec 31 07:06:59 <baash05> Anyone know how to show it?
Dec 31 07:07:30 <baash05> I have button on the screen (for now) and I want to show the menu when I hit the button.
Dec 31 07:09:48 <baash05> Never mind.. I just decided that a spinner did the same thing.
Dec 31 07:09:56 <baash05> Or well it fit my needs.
Dec 31 07:53:44 <munowse> Is there a more efficient way to update vars on a service (from an activity/adapter) without calling startService() again and again?
Dec 31 09:16:49 <raoul11> regarding runtime permissions: 1st run- launch requestPerm popup, user grants permission. 2nd run - check if permission is still granted, if so - no popup should pop and just move on with the body?
Dec 31 09:42:02 <Ashiren> eeyup
Dec 31 10:01:37 <raoul11> Ashiren: if user granted it before, revoked it manually later, it will relaunch the popup again?
Dec 31 10:03:11 <Ashiren> well you check for permission everytime, then launch popup if needed
Dec 31 10:03:31 <Ashiren> afair revoking/granting permissions stops the app
Dec 31 10:05:01 <raoul11> and iewww
Dec 31 10:05:30 <raoul11> Ashiren: what if on the 1st run they decline, on the 2nd they decline and check the "dont show again"
Dec 31 10:05:58 <raoul11> the only resolution around it is of them manually enabling the permission?
Dec 31 10:06:52 <Ashiren> actually i dont know
Dec 31 10:07:58 <raoul11> k
Dec 31 12:33:47 <Zta> Say "woof" if you're actually coding AND present on irc right now.
Dec 31 12:54:50 <Ashiren> meow
Dec 31 12:56:49 <Zta> =)
Dec 31 13:32:03 <Melatonina> I am
Dec 31 14:14:40 <iresf> hello everyone
Dec 31 14:14:56 <iresf> any Persian Android developer here  ?
Dec 31 14:15:16 <Melatonina> same number as yesterday
Dec 31 14:17:09 <Melatonina> Is Amir Vahid Roudsari an Iranian name?
Dec 31 14:17:34 <Melatonina> Mehrnaz Haddadi?
Dec 31 14:17:57 <iresf> yh   but  may they are Indians or  Arabs  or    Paki
Dec 31 14:18:56 <iresf> Mehrnaz Certainly  is persian
Dec 31 14:19:08 <Melatonina> they appear as Iranian Android developers on google
Dec 31 14:19:17 <Melatonina> http://www.irantalent.com/home/iOS-and-Android-Developer-jobs-in-Tehran-Iran-18112.html
Dec 31 14:19:43 <Melatonina> ^ job for you
Dec 31 14:19:54 <iresf> yh   but i want one only here
Dec 31 14:20:59 <Melatonina> isn't Tehran "here" for you?
Dec 31 14:21:26 <iresf> i want to find a persian that is abroad
Dec 31 14:21:52 <Melatonina> contact those developers and ask the
Dec 31 14:21:54 <Melatonina> them
Dec 31 14:21:58 <Melatonina> they probably know someone
Dec 31 14:22:23 <Melatonina> just email them, give your best wished for the new year and ask
Dec 31 14:22:29 <iresf> i have asked i have   several  android developer here    but they do not know
Dec 31 14:23:04 <Melatonina> you asked several IRANIAN Android developers HERE?
Dec 31 14:23:31 <iresf> no i mean in iran
Dec 31 14:23:43 <Melatonina> ask those people
Dec 31 14:24:00 <Melatonina> have a good 2017
Dec 31 14:24:08 <Melatonina> I can't help you more
Dec 31 14:24:21 <MarkRS> app crashes in (AS) debug mode, but not run, wt... ? The console log is http://pastebin.com/SmBuuXvC
Dec 31 14:26:05 <Melatonina> MarkRS: looks like you have different versions of libraries or something like that
Dec 31 14:26:13 <Melatonina> MarkRS: but it's a wild speculation
Dec 31 14:26:49 <MarkRS> because of the "unknown path ... x86" lines, Melatonina ?
Dec 31 14:28:21 <rockwood> hello it is dev support channel
Dec 31 14:28:48 <rockwood> android retofit 2 library
Dec 31 14:29:02 <rockwood> how to work with that...
Dec 31 14:29:35 <Melatonina> MarkRS: because it's failing in a class loader
Dec 31 14:29:45 <rockwood> android retrofit-2 library for fetching database form library
Dec 31 14:30:08 <Melatonina> rockwood: google "retrofit tutorial" there are several amazing ones
Dec 31 14:31:35 <rockwood> please explain the what is difference between retrofit2 and httpclient
Dec 31 14:32:02 <MarkRS> Melatonina:  Ah, ok... I can't see anything there pointing to what it needs. Do you know?
Dec 31 14:32:33 <Melatonina> MarkRS: no, sorry. It's a very generic message, actually
Dec 31 14:33:07 <Melatonina> MarkRS: try to modify your code and isolate what class is causing the problem. I don't have a better suggestion. I have to go now
Dec 31 14:33:09 <MarkRS> Melatonina: Ok, at least I'm not overlooking something obvious, thanx
Dec 31 15:09:06 <iresf> MarkRS   : trace your app code step to step by debuging it   then you understand the problem
Dec 31 15:14:00 <iresf> Telegram Messenger group for these member room is  : https://telegram.me/joinchat/C-p1Az7QgM8GnXqORT-ZQw
Dec 31 15:15:07 <Melatonina> iresf: it's unlikely that people in this chat will join a Telegram group
Dec 31 15:16:19 <iresf> but Telegram messenger is good on a VD
Dec 31 15:18:00 <Melatonina> but lots of other messengers are good and people still use IRC anyway
Dec 31 15:18:31 <MarkRS> Hi iresf. Thanks for that. More revealing that I thought. After the first line of the menu handling section (creating a new intent), execution misses out "startActivity(sIntent)" and "return true;" and goes to "return super.onOptionsitemSelected(item), and then crashes (after a bit of decompiled code)
Dec 31 15:20:30 <iresf> solved ?  MarkRS
Dec 31 15:21:00 <MarkRS> No, frayed knot, iresf.
Dec 31 15:21:45 <MarkRS> presumably the new intent isn't created because of loading shortcomings (?), but why it then skips to the default case of the switch statement, I can't tell. Perhaps that's irrelevant by that stage
Dec 31 15:29:44 <iresf> MarkRS : try it out  out of  onOptionsItemSelected    i mean   call startIntent in onCreat method   if it  works  , come here again i will tell you  that what problem is
Dec 31 15:30:30 <MarkRS> Ahah! Ok, will do. Will take me an hour or two since something else has just cropped up. I'll be back :)
Dec 31 16:22:31 <MarkRS> nope iresf. Still crashes :( Or is that :)
Dec 31 16:23:45 <iresf> may  you show us  your code   ?
Dec 31 16:24:16 <MarkRS> P'raps a bit... from where in that activity?
Dec 31 16:25:26 <iresf> onOptionsItemSelected method
Dec 31 16:26:21 <MarkRS> http://pastebin.com/qu3y6PV3
Dec 31 16:26:39 <MarkRS> It's the last one, "menu_simple", that crashes
Dec 31 16:27:09 <MarkRS> The others... don't know any more, they don't work, certainly. Things are moving apace :)
Dec 31 16:28:22 <MarkRS> I stress, this works when I run it in the emulator, just crashes when I run it through the debugger
Dec 31 16:30:27 <MarkRS> and, as you might spot, I'm an android (& java) beginner, tho' coding for about thirty years
Dec 31 16:36:21 <Ashiren> huh
Dec 31 16:36:29 <MarkRS> Hmm, they all don't work under the debugger,
Dec 31 16:37:11 <Ashiren> no real device?
Dec 31 16:37:16 <MarkRS> nope :(
Dec 31 16:38:14 <Melatonina> MarkRS: did you try NOT using "Instant Run"?
Dec 31 16:38:39 <MarkRS> I can't find where to turn it off Melatonina, tho' I've looked. Where is it?
Dec 31 16:39:34 <Melatonina> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35168753/instant-run-in-android-studio-2-0-how-to-turn-off
Dec 31 16:41:08 <MarkRS> Ta! So many "Settings" menus
Dec 31 16:42:55 <Melatonina> Ta?
Dec 31 16:43:02 <MarkRS> "Thank you"
Dec 31 16:43:11 <MarkRS> v colloquial
Dec 31 16:44:50 <MarkRS> ok, so I've turned off instant run, cleaned the project, rebuilt the project, running it through the debugger now...
Dec 31 16:44:56 <MarkRS> fixses the whole thing...
Dec 31 16:45:08 <MarkRS> thanks people. What's that all about?
Dec 31 16:45:19 <Melatonina> Cool. At least I made something good in 2016
Dec 31 16:45:24 <MarkRS> ;)
Dec 31 16:45:28 <MarkRS> I know how you feel
Dec 31 16:46:56 <Melatonina> I think "Instant Run" attempt to upload to the device or emulator just as much bytecode that is needed to create an updated application.
Dec 31 16:47:36 <Ashiren> i always turn off instant run
Dec 31 16:47:40 <MarkRS> Hmm, ok. I can see how that might have problems when the code is changing a lot
Dec 31 16:47:47 <Melatonina> Since I suspected that the runtime had problems loading a class, I thought it was "Instant Run" not doing a good job and thus updating some bytecode while leaving something else lagging to the previous version
Dec 31 16:48:27 <MarkRS> sounds right. So is instant run doing anything "instant", other than making it quicker to start the app (if all goes well)? It doesn't look like it.
Dec 31 16:49:12 <Ashiren> for me it dirupts developing process :v
Dec 31 16:49:46 <MarkRS> having lost the last two days to this, I'd have to agree, Ashiren
Dec 31 16:49:48 <Ashiren> well come back if you have a bigger project, which compiling lasts over minute everytime you change a line
Dec 31 16:51:17 <MarkRS> fair point
Dec 31 16:55:47 <MarkRS> thanks all
Dec 31 17:02:11 <ykumar00> Can anyone here help me with a simple android xml layout problem?
Dec 31 17:02:54 <Melatonina> MarkRS: you are welcome. Best wishes for the new year
Dec 31 17:03:12 <Melatonina> ykumar00: no
Dec 31 17:03:13 <MarkRS> And to you Melatonina. I have a feeling I'll be spending quite a bit of it in here
Dec 31 17:03:47 <Melatonina> ykumar00: somebody may help to with a SPECIFIC Android XML layout problem
Dec 31 17:04:15 <ykumar00> It is specific, sorry
Dec 31 17:04:17 <ykumar00> http://prntscr.com/dq3jad
Dec 31 17:04:46 <ykumar00> I'm making a TableLayout, but the selected cell is smaller than the rest for some reason
Dec 31 17:07:36 <Ashiren> maybe use span = 3, not 4?
Dec 31 17:07:55 <ykumar00> Tried that, doesn't work :/
Dec 31 17:10:45 <ykumar00> removing that line doesnt work wither
Dec 31 17:10:48 <ykumar00> either*
Dec 31 17:19:44 <ollien> Would it be bad practice to pass my AppWidgetManager object from my onUpdate function to a callback?
Dec 31 17:20:09 <ollien> e.g. cause a memory leak?
Dec 31 17:23:30 <Melatonina> ollien: why aren't you preparing your new year's celebrations?
Dec 31 17:23:41 <ollien> Melatonina Oh they're prepared
Dec 31 17:23:46 <ollien> I'm going out with some friends around 6:00
Dec 31 17:24:00 <ollien> what else am I gonna do between now and then? :P
Dec 31 17:24:26 <Melatonina> :)
Dec 31 17:43:11 <iresf> does anyone have experience with Selendroid ?
Dec 31 18:00:28 <Melatonina> iresf: I don't. Do you have any experience with it?
Dec 31 18:01:22 <iresf> yh  i have experience with  Selenium    but not  selendroid  i want to know is it possible to use   not only for test    ?
Dec 31 18:02:47 <Melatonina> what would you like to use it for?
Dec 31 18:03:36 <Faizan> What's the correct way to set a popup menu item as checked?
Dec 31 18:04:25 <iresf> i want use it for  Athu a website automatically in android
Dec 31 18:05:40 <iresf> Although  jsoup exist for  html parse but it can not handle js code
Dec 31 18:06:29 <iresf> but seems it is only for test
Dec 31 18:11:40 <Melatonina> Faizan: does this help? http://stackoverflow.com/a/9805254
Dec 31 18:12:00 <Faizan> Yeah I got it, thanks Melatonina
Dec 31 18:12:22 <Melatonina> np
Dec 31 18:21:22 <orbyt_> Anyone use emberjs
Dec 31 18:25:08 <Melatonina> addepar, MHElabs, Yahoo!, livingsocial, Yapp, Tidle, Bustle, Square, Groupon, zendesk, Discourse, timbuk2
Dec 31 18:25:39 <Melatonina> orbyt_: http://emberjs.com/ember-users/
Dec 31 18:25:53 <bolovanos> hithere and happy new year to living ones :)
Dec 31 18:26:12 <orbyt_> Melatonina Was curious if anyone had opinions on it
Dec 31 18:26:13 <bolovanos> thanks for help with my problems in 2016
Dec 31 18:26:57 <Melatonina> bolovanos: We're glad you are happy for the help you received in 2016 because you won't be receive anymore in 2017
Dec 31 18:27:42 <Melatonina> orbyt_: did you ask on #web? You may find more users there
Dec 31 18:27:49 <cristian_c> Hello
Dec 31 18:28:05 <orbyt_> Melatonina Just a casual question, dont look to much into it.
Dec 31 18:28:08 <cristian_c> I've got a widget composed by a linearlayout , and inside it there are an imagebutton and an imageview. I've set a minimal padding currently, but it's not displayed with same tickness at both four sides
Dec 31 18:28:18 <Melatonina> orbyt_: ok. sorry
Dec 31 18:28:48 <cristian_c> I've tried also with a test widget, removing layout_width and layout_height parameters
Dec 31 18:29:49 <Melatonina> cristian_c: you could post your XML and give a chance to other people to have an idea
Dec 31 18:29:53 <cristian_c> I've tried also removing the background parameter from imagebutton, and I've also tried to change imagebutton with an imageview
Dec 31 18:30:26 <cristian_c> ok, I publish layout of both widget and test widget
Dec 31 18:31:25 <Melatonina> bolovanos: I never helped you but I'm sure you are very welcome by the whole channel. Have a wonderful 2017 sprinkled with happy surprises
Dec 31 18:34:13 <bolovanos> Melatonina, actually you did helped me :)
Dec 31 18:34:55 <Melatonina> bolovanos: well, I don't remember but I'm happy I did something useful
Dec 31 18:34:56 <cristian_c> widget.xml: http://pastebin.com/SGUgFd2U
Dec 31 18:34:57 <iresf> i hope google lifts sanctions on me       i pray and want from Jesus
Dec 31 18:35:15 <raoul11> Melatonina i keep scores, you already helped 2 peeps today
Dec 31 18:35:29 <raoul11> iresf what did you do?
Dec 31 18:35:58 <cristian_c> test_widget.xml: http://pastebin.com/EqaQB1zj
Dec 31 18:36:02 <Melatonina> iresf: Jesus? aren't you Muslim?
Dec 31 18:36:23 <Melatonina> raoul11: not him personally. His Country.
Dec 31 18:37:12 <iresf> raoul11 : because i am Iranian
Dec 31 18:37:14 <cristian_c> I've done many tries. If I remove the background, it becomes white
Dec 31 18:37:30 <raoul11> oh nice iresf
Dec 31 18:37:46 <cristian_c> If I change imagebutton with an imageview, background disappears
Dec 31 18:38:16 <raoul11> cristian_c: mayb post a pic of whats the desired look and the current bad look?
Dec 31 18:38:34 <cristian_c> I've got many screenshots
Dec 31 18:38:38 <cristian_c> ok
Dec 31 18:39:21 <iresf> Melatonina :  Although  I am Shitte  but Jesus is one of the our   prophets
Dec 31 18:42:07 <iresf> shiite*
Dec 31 18:42:39 <cristian_c> screen 1: http://imgur.com/a/4MC5o
Dec 31 18:44:53 <cristian_c> screen2: http://imgur.com/a/qKE92
Dec 31 18:47:17 <cristian_c> screen3: http://imgur.com/a/MA8pF
Dec 31 18:48:03 <raoul11> which button is misbehaving?
Dec 31 18:48:11 <raoul11> or misconfigured
Dec 31 18:48:39 <cristian_c> so, how should I change my widget.xml in order to look (I don't talk about icon) like the widget on the right?
Dec 31 18:49:18 <cristian_c> raoul11: in screensgots, there are three widgets: test widget, my widget, and a widget displayed as comparing
Dec 31 18:49:30 <cristian_c> *screenshots
Dec 31 18:50:01 <cristian_c> raoul11: widgets on the left side are related to the two xmlS
Dec 31 18:50:14 <cristian_c> *layout xml
Dec 31 18:51:12 <raoul11> not following you
Dec 31 18:51:13 <cristian_c> I'd like to get a widget like the widget on the right side, resizable and with space between icon and the border
Dec 31 18:52:42 <cristian_c> raoul11: widget on the right side is composed by an icon (power icon), a button-like (the black background big than the widget) and an imageview (the bottom grey stripe)
Dec 31 18:52:52 <iresf> cristian_c : you can use other drawable resource     see : https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/drawable-resource.html
Dec 31 18:53:02 <raoul11> cristian_c <padding android:left="1dp" android:top="1dp" android:right="1dp"
Dec 31 18:53:02 <raoul11>     android:bottom="1dp" />
Dec 31 18:53:17 <raoul11> try that in your roundedcorners style
Dec 31 18:53:35 <raoul11> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3263611/border-for-an-image-view-in-android
Dec 31 18:53:48 <cristian_c> raoul11: at the moment, I've not set the icon in my widget in order to make the tests, i've temporary substituted the alpha / transparent backgrpund of the icon with a grey background for the icon
Dec 31 18:53:50 <cristian_c> ah, ok
Dec 31 18:54:16 <raoul11> you dont want all those paddings, just the one on the bottom no?
Dec 31 18:54:41 <cristian_c> raoul11: the bottom stripe is an imageview
Dec 31 18:54:50 <cristian_c> it0s 4dp wide
Dec 31 18:54:55 <cristian_c> *thickness
Dec 31 18:55:51 <raoul11> you can also use just use a plain view with the thickness wanted
Dec 31 18:56:12 <cristian_c> raoul11: strange thing: If a use an imagebutton in place of linearòayout containing imagebiew+button, stripe disappears
Dec 31 18:56:26 <raoul11> try with a plain view
Dec 31 18:56:27 <cristian_c> raoul11: ah, ok
Dec 31 18:57:31 <cristian_c> raoul11: thanks for the tips!
Dec 31 18:57:38 <cristian_c> I'll make tests
Dec 31 18:57:52 <raoul11> goodluck
Dec 31 18:57:58 <cristian_c> :)
Dec 31 18:58:16 <iresf> does anyone have experience with Selendroid ?
Dec 31 19:22:30 <fooman2011> Hello
Dec 31 19:22:34 <fooman2011> I'm trying to start a new project from the NativeActivity sample. I would like to add/compile another static library. I have tried to add to CMakeLists.txt add_library(mylib STATIC ${MYLIBPATH}/src/mylib.c) and target_include_directories(mylib PRIVATE ${MYLIBPATH}/include) and it seems to work but
Dec 31 19:22:36 <fooman2011> when I add the include path of my lib to the main project using this: target_include_directories(native-activity PRIVATE ${MYLIBPATH}/include) I get compilation errors like: "Error:(249, 1) error: unknown type name '__NDK_FPABI__'"   even if I don't include any file from this location. What is wrong ?
Dec 31 20:34:13 <yoavst> Does one know a library of [long-> long] mapping, that uses primitive arrays? (no generics). I've found trove4j, but it comes as a full library, and I need only this map (generated using template engine, so it's a problem to copy)
Dec 31 21:17:37 <thepoosh> yonatankoren: why?
Dec 31 21:36:16 <Melatonina> thepoosh: did you mean to address yoavst?
Dec 31 21:36:22 <thepoosh> yes
Dec 31 21:38:45 <Melatonina> ah, he quit
Dec 31 21:46:28 <Melatonina> thepoosh: happy new year 3 month late! :D
Dec 31 21:46:38 <thepoosh> :{
Dec 31 21:49:45 <Melatonina> :(
Dec 31 21:58:09 <Melatonina> How can I decode bitmap from disk reusing the same memory?
Dec 31 21:58:46 <Melatonina> I need to decode thousand of them but I only need few of them at each time in memory
Dec 31 21:59:14 <thepoosh> use any sort of LRU cache
Dec 31 21:59:15 <Melatonina> I'm recycling bitmaps as soon as they are not needed anymore
Dec 31 21:59:20 <thepoosh> or an image loader
Dec 31 21:59:30 <Melatonina> but I suspect I'm getting delays because of garbage collection
Dec 31 21:59:34 <thepoosh> why are you taking care of that yourself instead of using a library
Dec 31 21:59:35 <thepoosh> ?
Dec 31 21:59:58 <Melatonina> (my app gets paused from time to time, even if the CPU load is always less than 15%)
Dec 31 22:01:02 <Melatonina> I'm using BitmapFactory.decodeFile()
Dec 31 22:01:26 <Melatonina> I need to be load and display them quickly
Dec 31 22:01:34 <Melatonina> I don't think Picasso would be appropriate
Dec 31 22:01:48 <Melatonina> I display them in sequence
Dec 31 22:01:57 <Melatonina> rapidly
Dec 31 22:02:04 <Melatonina> to make an animation
Dec 31 22:02:45 <Melatonina> The problem is not caching
Dec 31 22:02:53 <Melatonina> it's memory management, I gues
Dec 31 22:02:55 <Melatonina> guess
Dec 31 22:04:15 <Melatonina> it's perfectly OK for me to load the same image multiple times a second (it won't happen anyway but it would not be a problem)
Dec 31 22:04:47 <Melatonina> the problem is if the garbage collection interrupts the flow of the animation
Dec 31 22:09:47 <Melatonina> did I say something silly?
Dec 31 22:13:15 <fooman2011> Hello. I'm working on a project based on the sample NativeActivity. I would like to add ra resources to my project. I can create a raw folder under the res folder of my project but the files into the raw folder are not embedded in my apk. Could you help me please ?
Dec 31 22:17:03 <Melatonina> I never used NativeActivity but raw resources always just worked with me. How do you know they are not embedded?
Dec 31 22:17:32 <fooman2011> I look into the apk
Dec 31 22:17:35 <fooman2011> I unzip it
Dec 31 22:17:44 <fooman2011> there is no raw directory
Dec 31 22:18:13 <Melatonina> ok
Dec 31 22:18:26 <Melatonina> no, never happened to me
Dec 31 22:18:29 <Melatonina> sorry
Dec 31 22:18:36 <fooman2011> :'
Dec 31 22:19:21 <fooman2011> in fact If I add resources manually from the ide into the ra folder
Dec 31 22:19:38 <fooman2011> then the raw folder is in the apk with the resource manually added
Dec 31 22:19:57 <fooman2011> but how to add 300 files...
Dec 31 22:20:15 <Melatonina> how else do you add raw resources?
Dec 31 22:20:45 <Melatonina> I just copy them in the Windows Explorer (the OS file manager)
Dec 31 22:22:32 <fooman2011> I do that to but there are not added
Dec 31 22:23:45 <fooman2011> Oh wait it work if I add a txt file
Dec 31 22:23:54 <fooman2011> but it doesn't work with sub folders
Dec 31 22:27:50 <Melatonina> http://stackoverflow.com/a/15508178
Dec 31 22:27:55 <Melatonina> fooman2011: ^
Dec 31 22:29:32 <Melatonina> fooman2011: you are welcom
Dec 31 22:29:40 <Melatonina> e
Dec 31 22:30:45 <fooman2011> yes thanks i will try but i read that in the asset folder the file size is limited...
Dec 31 22:32:22 <Melatonina> well, download the files once the application is installed then
Dec 31 22:32:47 <Melatonina> embedding large files in your app is silly anyway
Dec 31 22:33:01 <Dagmar> It
Dec 31 22:33:02 <Dagmar> It
Dec 31 22:33:06 <Dagmar> @#$@$ It
Dec 31 22:33:14 <Melatonina> unless you need have them loaded in memory all the time
Dec 31 22:33:15 <Dagmar> 'll probably be easier if you access them via R
Dec 31 22:33:36 <Dagmar> Then AS will _know_ they're being used and won't exclude them as it tries to normally exclude _unused resources_ hint hint
Dec 31 22:34:00 <fooman2011> Damn assets doesn't exist in my version
Dec 31 22:34:30 <fooman2011> I'm porting an application
Dec 31 22:34:37 <Melatonina> again, can't you put them on a server and download them?
Dec 31 22:34:38 <fooman2011> The folder hierarchy is important
Dec 31 22:34:51 <fooman2011> what ? a server ? no
Dec 31 22:35:07 <Melatonina> why not?
Dec 31 22:35:12 <fooman2011> what is your android studio version ?
Dec 31 22:35:22 <Melatonina> the coolest
Dec 31 22:35:31 <fooman2011> ???
Dec 31 22:35:31 <Dagmar> Latest stable is what you should always use
Dec 31 22:35:33 <Melatonina> the more shiny
Dec 31 22:35:42 <fooman2011> I think that I have the last
Dec 31 22:35:49 <fooman2011> I download and update it today
Dec 31 22:36:00 <Melatonina> at which hour?
Dec 31 22:36:05 <fooman2011> and assets seems gone
Dec 31 22:36:05 <Dagmar> If it's not carping about more updates being available then it'll be the latest stable version
Dec 31 22:37:13 <Melatonina> why not a server?
Dec 31 22:38:52 <Dagmar> AssetManager is easy enough to use
Dec 31 22:39:03 <fooman2011> Melatonina...
Dec 31 22:39:30 <fooman2011> You put app without any resource in your phone and you need a connection to get the resources ?
Dec 31 22:39:44 <fooman2011> you put an app like this on the store ?
Dec 31 22:39:57 <fooman2011> all client will need to connect to your server to get the resources ?
Dec 31 22:39:58 <Dagmar> That depends on what kind of resources you're talking about
Dec 31 22:40:11 <Dagmar> ...which you have provided exactly zero details about thus far.
Dec 31 22:40:21 <fooman2011> you need to get a server already open for the client just because the resource is not embedded in the apk
Dec 31 22:40:37 <Melatonina> fooman2011: it's more or less what happens when you load the store page: your browser will connect to a server and download all the resources
Dec 31 22:40:45 <Dagmar> So, if you'd like less vague suggestions, cough up some details
Dec 31 22:40:57 <fooman2011> I currently have a game working on Windows/Linux/Ios. I'm trying to port it on Android
Dec 31 22:40:58 <Melatonina> fooman2011: then I'm not suggesting you put ALL resources on a server.
Dec 31 22:41:25 <fooman2011> in the resource they are text files, texture files, etc...
Dec 31 22:41:49 <Melatonina> texture files would be good candidates
Dec 31 22:42:16 <fooman2011> I will need to zip everything in a big file and unzip it at start... such stupid...
Dec 31 22:42:18 <Melatonina> your app install more quickly and you download them while the user browser that start pages
Dec 31 22:42:23 <Dagmar> No you won't
Dec 31 22:43:02 <Dagmar> Android has a facility for downloading an additional APK just for resources if you have a vast amount of them
Dec 31 22:43:25 <Dagmar> If all you have is a few hundred small text files and two dozen textures, just stick em in raw or assets
Dec 31 22:43:42 <fooman2011> I have " text files and two dozen textures, just stick em in raw or assets"
Dec 31 22:43:51 <fooman2011> but the folder hierarchy is important
Dec 31 22:44:00 <fooman2011> I need to have folder/subfolder/etc...
Dec 31 22:44:11 <Zharf> max apk size is 100MB nowadays, I believe
Dec 31 22:44:20 <Melatonina> unless you map them into file names
Dec 31 22:44:38 <Dagmar> If you want folders and subfolders you'll need to use assets and read up on using AssetManager
Dec 31 22:44:45 <fooman2011> no i can't
Dec 31 22:44:51 <fooman2011> I'm only in native mode
Dec 31 22:45:02 <fooman2011> plus asset doesn't accept file larger than 1MB
Dec 31 22:45:06 <Dagmar> What does that even mean
Dec 31 22:45:08 <fooman2011> my texture are more than
Dec 31 22:45:14 <Dagmar> *ahem* https://developer.android.com/google/play/expansion-files.html
Dec 31 22:45:32 <Melatonina> I think I added few movies as assets
Dec 31 22:46:31 <fooman2011> Ok first, if you update your android studio do you still have assets ?
Dec 31 22:46:39 <Dagmar> Yes, of course
Dec 31 22:47:21 <Melatonina> fooman2011: http://stackoverflow.com/a/2870000
Dec 31 22:49:08 <Melatonina> uncompressed files are not limited in size
Dec 31 22:49:30 <Melatonina> file size limit are caused by hardware decompression limitations
Dec 31 22:50:15 <Zharf> movies aren't compressed again because they're already pretty well compressed
Dec 31 22:50:45 <Zharf> https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base.git/+/android-4.2.2_r1/tools/aapt/Package.cpp#26
Dec 31 22:50:56 <Zharf> hm, not the latest but "close enough"
Dec 31 22:51:34 <Zharf> https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base.git/+/master/tools/aapt/Package.cpp#30
Dec 31 22:52:46 <Melatonina> Zharf: that's what I meant when I said "uncompressed files are not limited in size"
Dec 31 22:52:51 <Zharf> right
Dec 31 22:53:08 <fooman2011> I can't put "assets" under "res"
Dec 31 22:53:35 <Melatonina> point is: give a file an extension of a kind of file that is not compressed
Dec 31 22:54:13 <Zharf> pretty sure there's a way to instruct aapt not to compress regardless but sure
Dec 31 22:54:15 <Melatonina> or just encode the hierarchy in the file name, flattening the hierarchy and use resources
Dec 31 22:54:17 <fooman2011> Android studio 2.2.3
Dec 31 22:54:24 <Melatonina> good luck and good 2017
Dec 31 22:59:26 <Melatonina> I can't focus on programming, today
Dec 31 22:59:44 <Melatonina> Everything looks complex
Dec 31 23:16:27 <fooman2011> I can add assets in my project with the last version of android studio... what's happened ?
Dec 31 23:17:45 <Melatonina> you can? is that news?
Dec 31 23:17:55 <fooman2011> I mean I can't
Dec 31 23:17:57 <fooman2011> sorry
Dec 31 23:18:29 <fooman2011> this should be under the "res" module right ?
Dec 31 23:18:50 <Melatonina> no
Dec 31 23:21:35 <fooman2011> When I right click on app new-> folder-> assets folder I get a NullPointerException in logs..
Dec 31 23:22:16 <Melatonina> I never did it
Dec 31 23:22:26 <Melatonina> I just put the files in the filesystem
Dec 31 23:22:33 <Melatonina> try that
Dec 31 23:24:36 <fooman2011> where in the filesystem
Dec 31 23:24:39 <fooman2011> Melatonina ?
Dec 31 23:24:56 <Melatonina> in the asset folder for that module
Dec 31 23:25:21 <fooman2011> where ? I have an app folder
Dec 31 23:25:31 <fooman2011> under I have a build and a src folder
Dec 31 23:25:40 <fooman2011> where you put the assets folder ?
Dec 31 23:25:59 <Melatonina> in the same folder as the "res" folder
Dec 31 23:26:05 <orbyt_> I'm wanting to build a fragment whos background will be a google map with other views on top (viewpager, search bar, etc..). Would it be best to subclass MapFragment, or create a custom fragment and use a MapView as the background?
Dec 31 23:26:08 <fooman2011> ok thanks i try
Dec 31 23:26:35 <fooman2011> It's ok it appears under the IDE now
Dec 31 23:26:43 <fooman2011> cool thanks
Dec 31 23:27:50 <Melatonina> orbyt_: I don't think you would use MapView (or any View) as background. I think you would place a MapView as the lowest view
Dec 31 23:28:21 <orbyt_> I've created a fragment that extends MapFragment and the map loads, but am not sure how to load a layout in onCreateView() as the usual way doesnt work.
Dec 31 23:28:36 <fooman2011> My texture 70MB unconpressed is embedded without problem. Thanks very much for your help Melatonina
Dec 31 23:29:00 <orbyt_> Melatonina I dont see an issue with having a large map as the background using a MapView
Dec 31 23:29:18 <Melatonina> fooman2011: you're welcome
Dec 31 23:29:56 <Melatonina> orbyt_: view's backgrounds aren't view. They are drawables
Dec 31 23:30:26 <orbyt_> Melatonina Background of the fragment as the user see it. Not android:background.
Dec 31 23:30:59 <Melatonina> orbyt_: I guess you would just use a FrameLayout as root layout, add a MapView as the lowest view (match_parent) and the add the rest above i
Dec 31 23:31:01 <Melatonina> t
Dec 31 23:31:12 <Melatonina> I would do that but I never used MapFragment
Dec 31 23:31:58 <orbyt_> Yea, using the MapView was one option, but am not sure of the advantages/disadvantages of going that route over extending MapFragment
Dec 31 23:32:58 <Melatonina> Wow guys my player is superfast!!! Much faster than I need it to be.
Dec 31 23:33:11 <Melatonina> I'm crying
Dec 31 23:35:07 <Melatonina> Thanks for supporting me. Without your encouragement from some of you I would have dropped this project one month ago
Dec 31 23:42:05 <Melatonina> first terrorist attack of the 2017 in Instanbul
Jan 01 00:18:52 <orbyt_> meh https://powerapps.microsoft.com/en-us/
Jan 01 00:21:18 <Melatonina> why "meh"?
Jan 01 00:24:25 <orbyt_> An app builder
Jan 01 00:25:37 <Melatonina> mobile developers are a thing of the past
Jan 01 00:26:26 <orbyt_> No, not at all.
Jan 01 00:36:54 <tp43_> having trouble with opengl tutorial getting started https://developer.android.com/training/graphics/opengl/environment.html#renderer, private final MyGLRenderer mRenderer;, my system doesn't know mRenderer it seems
Jan 01 00:43:52 <tp43_> oh wait, MyGLRenderer need to be implemented, not a built in class, gotta create it
Jan 01 01:03:36 <orbyt_> How is my MapView loading without .getMapAsync()...?
Jan 01 02:44:34 <g00s> Giant Meteor where art thou
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