**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 09 03:00:01 2017 Jan 09 03:22:20 Moggle: Re: fragments, I found these links helpful: Jan 09 03:22:47 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8617696/what-is-the-benefit-of-using-fragments-in-android-rather-than-views Jan 09 03:22:58 And http://stackoverflow.com/a/32390043/1813403 Jan 09 03:23:11 And http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24647078/android-activity-fragment-responsibilities-for-data-loading/24647574#24647574 Jan 09 03:23:27 Which in turn refers to http://www.i-programmer.info/programming/android/6996-fragment-and-activity-working-together.html Jan 09 03:24:07 This article talks about the reasoning behind why fragments were introduced: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2126865 Jan 09 03:24:26 Note that there are people who advocate against heavy use of fragments, I don't know all of the arguments yet. Jan 09 03:24:38 That second link is so wrong. The data needs to be persisted anyway; Fragments don't help there. Jan 09 03:24:54 The StackOverflow answer? Jan 09 03:25:04 Yeah. Jan 09 03:25:55 "By storing the information of interest within the Activity, the Fragment for each screen can simply access the object reference through the Activity." Jan 09 03:26:00 And what happens when the activity goes down? Jan 09 03:26:13 Activities are short-lived objects. Jan 09 03:26:37 We can't really get around the issue of having to store data in a Bundle. Jan 09 03:26:46 Hm. Jan 09 03:27:25 What do you think of this site: https://github.com/googlesamples/android-architecture Jan 09 03:27:37 I was thinking that I really need to make time to read some good examples. Jan 09 03:28:36 I think that's Google's own work. I presume it's good. Jan 09 03:28:42 Haven't looked deeply. Jan 09 03:30:29 I just feel like I need some examples of How To Do It Right. Jan 09 03:30:42 Or perhaps the opposite, an overview of pitfalls to avoid. Jan 09 03:30:54 "Never get involved in a land war in Asia" and all that. Jan 09 03:32:11 MVP is all the rage on Android lately. Don't know of any tutorials, though. :E Jan 09 03:32:13 Jan 09 03:32:16 Oops. Jan 09 03:33:17 This is neat: https://developer.android.com/studio/write/draw9patch.html Jan 09 03:41:57 So, I'm reading this web page on hidden pitfalls of AsyncTask. And I'm trying to debug this app that uses AsyncTask to handle an UDP connection to a client system. Jan 09 03:42:12 What would you recommend as the right design/approach for this situation: Jan 09 03:45:08 I have a tablet app that's the control interface for a remote drone. I have an android app running on the drone. The tablet app has a map style interface (like google maps, but built using the mapbox API). It shows the drone's location, the user creates waypoints and the drone goes from waypoint to waypoint. Jan 09 03:46:03 The two apps use UDP to communicate with each other, so obviously there has to be some sort of asynchronous thread that connects the tablet UI to the UDP networking stuff. Jan 09 03:46:27 The existing code uses an AsyncTask for that. Jan 09 03:58:50 puff: I would use a Thread for that, since it will run indefinitely Jan 09 03:59:16 puff: I have no experience with services but maybe a service could be appropriate Jan 09 04:00:18 puff: what if the drone falls onto somebody? Jan 09 04:02:09 puff: could you blame mapbox for that? Jan 09 04:03:56 Nope. Jan 09 04:04:02 It's a boat, anyway, so. Jan 09 04:04:13 Melatonina: I'll look into services, thanks. Jan 09 04:07:29 AsyncTask is for tasks with a short duration Jan 09 04:08:57 puff: is the drone for playing or does it have a purpose? Jan 09 04:22:00 Melatonina: It has a purpose. Jan 09 04:22:19 Cool Jan 09 04:22:50 Melatonina: Chemical sampling, mainly, though I'm sure they're open to other customers. Jan 09 04:23:17 That is, sampling water to check for various chemicals, etc. Jan 09 04:24:06 Are you enjoying the job? Jan 09 04:24:25 Melatonina: Not especially :-). Jan 09 04:24:33 :) Jan 09 04:24:44 Melatonina: It's a tiny startup, the CEO is a good guy. Jan 09 04:25:21 Melatonina: And I've been meaning to sink my teeth into android... Jan 09 04:25:56 Or to put it another way, I've been meaning to get my hands dirty with android, and this seemed like a good opportunity. I just didn't realize it was going to be the Agean Stables. Jan 09 04:26:12 That's Augean Stables, sorry. Jan 09 04:30:15 Are you working from a long time on this project? Jan 09 04:31:17 Wow a Hercules reference on this channel, nice Jan 09 04:32:54 Hercules was a puss. lol Jan 09 04:33:37 Yeah, I noticed it too. Star Wars references are more common among software developers. Jan 09 04:34:52 Melatonina: From a long time? No, I just started on this a few days ago. Jan 09 04:35:05 Melatonina: I can do star wars references too :-). Jan 09 04:35:15 Melatonina: In fact, I'll bet most of you can't pass my Star Wars Pop Quiz. Jan 09 04:35:40 I'm sure I can't Jan 09 04:35:47 ...without googling :-). Though only one of the questions is probably googlable. Jan 09 04:35:53 It's only three questions. Jan 09 04:36:01 Wait, I added a fourth question for extra credit. Jan 09 05:13:46 how do you hide the text in the bottom navigation view? I tried android:title="" but that just makes a blank space and the icon is no longer vertically aligned Jan 09 05:15:34 ? Jan 09 05:20:59 any way i can backup app data by using only adb pull? Jan 09 05:21:13 have access to root adb through TWRP, but can't boot phone Jan 09 05:21:23 trying to extract as much useful data as possible Jan 09 05:52:18 geosmin: Hm, I guess it depends on where the app stashes its data. Jan 09 05:53:22 geosmin: http://www.howtogeek.com/125375/how-to-create-a-full-android-phone-or-tablet-backup-without-rooting-or-unlocking-your-device/ Jan 09 05:53:45 puff: unfortunately i can't use Jan 09 05:54:07 'adb backup' only things like 'adb shell' and 'adb pull' Jan 09 05:55:38 Hm. Well, in the distant past I used adb pull to extract various app data. This was 4+ years ago. I just had to figure out where each app kept its data on the file system and copy that file. I have heard that android now makes it easier for apps to manage data and back it up to google, I'm not sure how that may invalidate the approach I took in the past. Jan 09 05:56:31 i ran tar on /data/data/*, hope that covers most of it Jan 09 05:58:20 geosmin: Dunno... a lot of the data on an android device is automatically backed up to google. Jan 09 05:58:46 geosmin: And a lot of (most?) apps back their data up to a server too. Jan 09 05:59:11 geosmin: One suggestion I'm seeing is to use nandroid, which requires you to install something like clockworkmod on your firmware. Jan 09 05:59:18 But that does *not* mean it's rooted. Jan 09 06:20:31 Can someone please help me. My icon isn't showing in the top menu bar. There is space for it. http://i.imgur.com/e3Ey49o.png Jan 09 06:21:00 I even have app:showAsAction="always" Jan 09 06:21:42 fattest: Sorry, I'm a newb and everybody else is idle. Jan 09 06:21:52 damn Jan 09 07:05:15 morning Jan 09 07:11:27 * raoul11 thepooshes thepoosh Jan 09 07:13:16 raoul11: hi hi hi Jan 09 07:13:23 how's life treating you? Jan 09 07:13:25 hi buddy Jan 09 07:13:29 cold Jan 09 07:13:32 so cold Jan 09 07:13:41 I think my project of annotation processing might have been to much in to little time Jan 09 07:13:52 *too Jan 09 07:15:06 any snow around Jerusalem this year? Jan 09 07:15:21 no snow Leeds, only blood Jan 09 07:15:35 yeah :( Jan 09 07:15:37 thepoosh: processing? Jan 09 07:15:43 thats very sad Jan 09 07:15:57 yeah, we have auto generated code and the script generating it is sucky Jan 09 07:16:08 so I've been side projecting myself to rewrite it Jan 09 07:16:27 thought I'll make it a side project of Annotation Processing Jan 09 07:16:47 but 1. this might break people's code unexpectedly due to remote changes Jan 09 07:16:57 2. might be an overkill project Jan 09 07:17:11 but it will allow me to learn Rx and annotation processing Jan 09 07:17:13 which is cool Jan 09 07:17:21 so I might do it for myself and not push it Jan 09 07:17:57 Leeds: have you ever tried AP? Jan 09 07:18:29 I don't know what that is, so probably no... Jan 09 07:25:22 Is it possible to spoof the "High Accuracy" GPS mode. Some apps simply won't run on the basic GPS Location mode. (yes Im rooted) Jan 09 07:27:57 http://www.klaasnotfound.com/2016/05/27/location-on-android-stop-mocking-me/ Jan 09 07:37:19 So thepoosh if I could intercept the API call that asks for "HIGH" or "BALANCED", then basically discard it but pretend everything's okay, maybe that would suffice. Jan 09 07:37:39 But wow, I am not going to start learning android and java programming for that. Jan 09 07:39:00 callq: you're aware that you're in the app-dev channel, right? Jan 09 07:39:16 hi, is it a good idea to store the google play licence key as a string resource, as opposed to hard-coding in the java file where billing is initialized? Jan 09 07:39:21 You see, most apps behave okay, although some bully you (google products because they love collecting data) and some are just plain broken, e.g. "You need high accuracy" -> prompt with Ok/Cancel (where Cancel usually keeps it turned off [note:google doesnt include Dont Ask Again]) -> app stuck in loop, forcing you to enable it to continue. Jan 09 07:39:39 Oh I thought this was general android-development, tweaking things, etc. My bad Leeds Jan 09 07:39:41 iprime: it should be in a json file in the app/debug or app/ Jan 09 07:40:25 oh? where do I get this json from, is this new? usually I get the key from the google play console Jan 09 07:40:52 callq: when you write something like "I am not going to start learning android and java programming for that" you automatically lose everyones attention Jan 09 07:41:04 iprime: it's generated from the google backend Jan 09 07:41:11 firebase.google.com Jan 09 07:41:23 I don't use firebase, it's about in-app purchahes Jan 09 07:41:23 and is usually used from that Jan 09 07:41:26 that licence key I mean Jan 09 07:41:26 oh Jan 09 07:41:41 well, why wouldn't you be able to save it as a string res? Jan 09 07:41:53 sure I am, just wondering if it's a good idea Jan 09 07:42:00 all examples point to hard-coding it Jan 09 07:42:08 in multi-flavored apps that won't work Jan 09 07:42:54 iprime: you can set it from the build.gradle Jan 09 07:42:55 thepoosh, yeah java devs are usually like that Jan 09 07:43:09 callq: not sure what you're aiming at Jan 09 07:43:40 iprime: you can use this in build.gradle Jan 09 07:43:49 thepoosh, as a flavor config? that would be awesome, how can I access gradle stuff in the java code? Jan 09 07:44:10 resValue "string", "purchase_api_key", getApiKeyForFlavour(flave) Jan 09 07:44:25 ok great, i'll check those, thank you! Jan 09 07:44:28 flavor(flav) Jan 09 07:44:31 add that in the flavor and overwrite the existing value with yours Jan 09 07:44:39 YEAH! Jan 09 07:46:35 iprime: look at what I found http://stackoverflow.com/a/37482737/1056359 Jan 09 07:46:55 that is a different approach Jan 09 07:48:12 accessing via BuildConfig seems simpler Jan 09 07:51:23 buildConfigField i mean, i'll go for it Jan 09 07:57:53 What resolution do you design your android apps in? Jan 09 07:58:39 out of MDPI, HDPI, XHDPI, which is your 1x? Jan 09 08:00:59 use everything, why not? Jan 09 08:01:01 either its dp or percentage/weight Jan 09 08:01:34 mostly i test on 720x1280 or 1080x1920 and 800x480 Jan 09 08:01:51 other than that the units should be irrelevant Jan 09 08:18:41 anyone knows if stats exist about the platform version distribution but for tablets only? Jan 09 08:21:34 iprime: nobody actually uses tablets Jan 09 08:21:38 :D Jan 09 08:21:41 :D Jan 09 08:21:48 that's a good answer, i guess Jan 09 08:34:33 so i backed up mmssms.db but not com.android.providers.telephony/databases, can i still restore SMS? Jan 09 08:44:40 after googling around, found that many people design at 360 x 640 (mdpi) Jan 09 08:45:35 1x = mdpi, 1.5x = hdpi, 2x = xhdpi Jan 09 08:45:35 so that would be 720 x 1280 xhdpi Jan 09 08:46:04 yes Jan 09 09:29:56 Hmm.. Jan 09 09:30:39 Is there an easy way to get Android to display a nice birthday picker -- similar to the date picker shown on the right here: https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/controls/pickers.html Jan 09 09:30:55 I do not want the whole calendar thing that I currently get. Jan 09 09:58:57 Anybody know the reccomended icon size for a GuidanceStylist.Guidance? Jan 09 10:07:10 where are the http networking tutorials? Jan 09 10:07:30 can't find here: https://developer.android.com/guide Jan 09 10:15:29 purplex88: http://square.github.io/okhttp/ Jan 09 10:57:40 Is there a nice way to get an instance of ActivityManagerNative Jan 09 10:57:57 i.e. without a bunch of Class.forName() and methodGetDefault.invoke() calls Jan 09 11:45:55 Hey all, I'm trying to neaten up some views, and as it stands, I have some text at the top of the page, then buttons aligned to the bottom Jan 09 11:46:08 I've arranged this by simply setting weight acordingly, so that the buttons line up Jan 09 11:46:14 Nice. Jan 09 11:46:38 but I'm trying to make it a bit more standard, and read that RelativeLayout is better way, but when I put all the buttons in the RelativeLayout, they just stack ontop of each other, so I only see 1 button, rather than laying out nicely. Jan 09 11:48:53 RelativeLayout is not really better than LinearLayout at positioning views linearly Jan 09 11:49:21 It really shines when you want to position views relative to eachother tho Jan 09 11:51:27 SimonVT: ah ok, so is there any way for me to bottom align the LinearLayout? Jan 09 11:51:51 With weight Jan 09 11:52:10 ah, that's how I was doing it, but I felt like there was a better way of doing it. if there's not, then I'll keep with this way Jan 09 11:53:35 If you're certain the text and the buttons will never overlap you can just use RelativeLayout and align the buttons to the bottom Jan 09 11:54:26 If the text might take up more space than the content area, you should probably use LinearLayout and a scrollable container for the text Jan 09 11:56:19 But RelativeLayout is not better than LinearLayout, and LinearLayout is not better than RelativeLayout.. they are good for different kinds of layouts (tho most can be achieved with either) Jan 09 12:11:27 Hey. Are there any resources about the current spread of technologies in Android phones? Like, how many support 4G or whatever. Jan 09 12:11:53 I'm trying to make a decision which networking technology to use and want to know what the install base would be. Jan 09 12:12:18 It shouldn't matter Jan 09 12:12:32 but what I guess I meant to say is Jan 09 12:12:32 why does it matter :P Jan 09 12:15:07 * raoul11 thepooshes thepoosh Jan 09 12:15:15 sup! Jan 09 12:15:40 shud i invest in cardview (inside a recyclerview)? Jan 09 12:15:47 why not? Jan 09 12:15:54 why not? Jan 09 12:16:05 cardview's are hot Jan 09 12:16:09 mchl_nix, that's such a wrong question to ask :) Jan 09 12:16:09 used too many of them over the years. Jan 09 12:16:09 coz am a noobi on cardview Jan 09 12:16:18 so? Jan 09 12:16:23 then get gooderly Jan 09 12:16:27 Mavrik, why? Jan 09 12:16:27 starting now. Jan 09 12:16:29 mchl_nix, even if phones have LTE, there's no chance your customers will have it available at all times. Jan 09 12:16:32 i will Jan 09 12:16:35 OK Jan 09 12:16:51 raoul11: good luck Jan 09 12:16:54 mchl_nix, so you need to design your app to handle cases where network connectivity is slow or unavailable even if phones support the network. Jan 09 12:16:55 we trust you Jan 09 12:16:57 when you are finished I will have some cookies baked. Jan 09 12:17:33 Mavrik, it's a student project, so that is not as important. Maybe my example is misleading. I was thinking about Wi-Fi Direct, maybe even Ad Hoc Wi-Fi. Bluetooth LE. More than one Wi-Fi Chip. Stuff like that. Jan 09 12:17:33 Heck, even in ultrarich sillicon valley you'll get spots of no connectivity while commuting (which is when most people use their android devices) Jan 09 12:17:44 I see. Jan 09 12:17:56 I don't think there's data about that. Jan 09 12:18:02 what type of cookies tx? Jan 09 12:18:05 Shame Jan 09 12:18:10 But you can pretty much reliably assume that: 1.) You'll have a single (1) wifi chip Jan 09 12:18:26 raoul11: if you succeed, choc-chip Jan 09 12:18:27 if you fail Jan 09 12:18:27 sultanas and nuts. Jan 09 12:18:29 2.) That you'll have a decently working BLE if the device has Android 4.4 or newer Jan 09 12:18:34 if you manage to get worse Jan 09 12:18:36 broccoli Jan 09 12:18:46 <3 broccoli Jan 09 12:18:47 3.) That wifi direct is available if you have newish phone Jan 09 12:19:21 tx, dude, stop spamming this channel with offtopic crap. Jan 09 12:20:06 Someone didn't have their coffee. Jan 09 12:25:01 Hello. I have a linear layout in a scrollview. I need to place two items next to each other horizontaly. possible? Jan 09 12:25:16 orientation for the layout is vertical Jan 09 12:25:53 nvm, fixed Jan 09 12:38:21 Mavrik, from my experience, Wi-Fi Direct is basically unusable. Incompatibilities between different phone makers and even if compatible, constant drops Jan 09 12:39:13 Also, now that I think about it, the project is to be tested in Africa, so the phones will probably be from around 6-8 years ago. Jan 09 12:39:18 yeah, that's realistic probably Jan 09 12:39:30 BLE is usually better, but not by much Jan 09 12:39:54 I need to transfer data, though. Pretty much constantly. Jan 09 12:40:13 regular bluetooth eh Jan 09 12:40:18 Well, I guess they won't be streaming Netflix there, so maybe I can get by with BT. Jan 09 12:40:22 6-8 years ago? why not irda Jan 09 12:40:24 Not like there will be much of an alternative. Jan 09 12:40:27 hrmf. Jan 09 12:40:35 Point-to-point transfer? Jan 09 12:40:44 What type of content? Jan 09 12:40:55 Peer to peer. Basically an ad hoc wifi network would be ideal. But doesn't seem to be supported still. Jan 09 12:41:24 I'm trying to put up a delay tolerant network. And the android phones will be my data mules. Jan 09 12:41:49 that's going to hurt like hell on older devices :/ Jan 09 12:41:50 Physically taking the packets of data from remote villages to places with internet connection and back. Jan 09 12:41:59 Yeah. Jan 09 12:42:47 If it was easy, my supervisor wouldn't have given me the job. The lack of information is what is killing me. I barely have a specification and therefore grasp of what the program is supposed to do, but I have no idea what hardware requirements I have. Jan 09 12:43:37 yeah of course Jan 09 12:43:42 that sounds like an academic project allright :D Jan 09 12:43:43 mchl_nix: it mean that your supervisor thinks you are very good at your job Jan 09 12:43:44 I figure those remote villages are not very big, so bluetooth might be ok. If they connect automatically that is. Jan 09 12:44:05 I think BT is about as good as you can get Jan 09 12:44:05 BLE has really terrible transfer rates Jan 09 12:44:07 even EDR isn't all that good Jan 09 12:44:13 but that's about as reliable as it gets Jan 09 12:44:21 wifi direct just plainly mostly doesn't work :/ Jan 09 12:44:24 mchl_nix: of course, supervisors make mistake too Jan 09 12:44:43 I wish, Melatonina. He saw a student in desperate need of a project, since the administration forgot to tell us, that it is a requirement for passing a course (which I found out, after passing its exam). He literally overheard us talking about it, came into the office and offered it to me P: Jan 09 12:44:45 :P Jan 09 12:45:57 :) Jan 09 12:46:25 So I have no idea and no options. Nice. I already scheduled a meetup with him and will try to figure something out together. Forget, that I have no experience with Android or networking, I have no idea of the current smart phone trends in remote African holdouts. Jan 09 12:46:34 Android. Bringing people together. Jan 09 12:49:39 mchl_nix: you can use this music as sound carpet while presenting your work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEwnHf9Q23k Jan 09 12:50:05 it work to get inspired while programming Android too Jan 09 12:50:57 I will play that video for one second, then loop the buffering animation, to make a realistic preview of the product. Jan 09 12:54:21 Finally a ram upgrade... 4 GB is just not enough for android studio. Jan 09 12:54:45 4 GB is not enough for L1 cache nowadays Jan 09 12:54:54 true... Jan 09 12:56:19 Syzygy: hi hi hi Jan 09 12:56:29 I feel your pain, Syzygy. I found some ways to get Android Studio itself down, though. Jan 09 12:56:39 thepoosh, I'll do it today! promise! Jan 09 12:56:52 whatever... Jan 09 12:56:57 * thepoosh shrugs Jan 09 12:57:42 mchl_nix, just got a RAM upgrade for this work notebook, so it's fine for now. Also buying a new notebook soonish. Jan 09 12:58:01 just can't decide which one. Jan 09 12:58:29 I can tell you, that the X260 sucks. Jan 09 12:58:41 Got 8 gigs now, too. Makes a lot of things easier. Jan 09 12:59:27 I'll probably get an XPS 13 or razer blade stealth. Jan 09 12:59:57 does the x260 really have 21 hours of battery? Jan 09 13:00:34 or anything even remotely close to that? Jan 09 13:02:38 raoul11: this is my lesson for the day: https://techblog.badoo.com/blog/2016/10/17/masking-bitmaps/ Jan 09 13:03:21 perfect timing thepoosh Jan 09 13:03:33 ? Jan 09 13:03:45 need to implement a rounded image holder soon Jan 09 13:04:12 a bit too indepth for me this one Jan 09 13:04:26 I know, but I want to do it Jan 09 13:04:32 If you do nothing you can get a good 16h, Syzygy. Jan 09 13:04:40 lost track at Da� = Sa�Da Jan 09 13:04:52 Mild work, I can usually get around 13. Jan 09 13:05:06 ha Jan 09 13:15:58 Am I right, that Ad Hoc Wifi is not available in Android? Jan 09 13:17:43 hmm, while I like partability, I guess I would be fine with the ~8hours that my prefered notebooks offer. Jan 09 13:18:13 desktops are so much better for android dev Jan 09 13:18:42 mchl_nix, can you state your problem in one sentence? because no clue what you are after Jan 09 13:20:26 adq, I want to connect android smartphones directly to send files around. BT is the first answer, but it has obvious shortcomings. Wi-Fi Direct is another possibility, but it seems nowhere near production ready. An Ad Hoc Wifi network would be what I'm after, but it seems like it is not supported by android. Jan 09 13:21:21 well, there is only mesh-network in this case Jan 09 13:21:38 but it would be much easier for you to have a requirement that all your android devices are connected to the same network (usually wifi) Jan 09 13:23:07 avoid ad-hoc, it does not meet what you ask for since it's 1 to 1 and iirc it's not really well supported anymore Jan 09 13:25:34 adq Ad Hoc is 1 to 1? Unfortunately I'm not in the position to set requirements. I'm probably stuck with BT, anyway. Just wanted to get the info, if ad-hoc is available or not. Jan 09 13:26:37 mchl_nix, yes ad-hoc has always been 1 to 1 Jan 09 13:27:17 maybe there are variants which are not 1 to 1 but anyway, just avoid Jan 09 13:30:02 hey fellas Jan 09 13:30:20 Where EXACTLY should the ANDROID_HOME variable point at? Some specific folder inside the SDK folder? I have it set to the root folder atm, doesn't seem to work Jan 09 13:30:25 how would I go about setting a reminder for say, every Wed, Tue, and Fri, every week for 4 weeks? Jan 09 13:31:16 or every Wednesday, Tuesday and Friday at 9 AM, for 4 weeks in a row Jan 09 13:32:22 adq Do you maybe mean 1:n? I mean, 1:1 is not much of a network. Jan 09 13:32:47 i think this is the sdk's root folder Jan 09 13:33:24 Odaym, you can schedul a new reminder once your reminder triggers. Jan 09 13:33:25 for me managed mode (classic ap) was 1:n since one centralization instance relays its peers, ad-hoc was 1:1 because you could set up 2 peers together Jan 09 13:33:42 but there are variants anyway Jan 09 13:34:25 Odaym, i would mimic the alarm clock Jan 09 13:37:31 spent the whole day setting up ReactNative, still not coding Jan 09 13:40:17 srry wrong channel Jan 09 13:46:28 so a reminder for the reminders Jan 09 13:46:51 but reminder 1 has to know what to trigger when it triggers Jan 09 13:47:00 ah, ok, it can repeat itself, and decrement some counter Jan 09 13:49:51 Odaym, can't the reminder know what the actual condition is and then check if there is another one necessary? Afaik that's what todoist does. Jan 09 13:50:07 Lazy evaluation, if you will. Jan 09 13:50:11 I dont know what other data i can feed a Notification Jan 09 13:51:15 Do you have a class, that creates the Notifications? It could hold all your notification requirements, check for existence and create if necessary, then. Jan 09 13:51:50 Hello! I am a newbie and would like to start learning Android app development. Could anyone guide me in the right direction? Jan 09 13:51:53 hm Jan 09 13:52:07 I have not implemented anything yet no Jan 09 13:54:00 aiks, https://developer.android.com/training/index.html Jan 09 14:01:21 mimic the alarm clock, adq? Jan 09 14:01:28 I can read the source there, yea Jan 09 14:01:44 basically does this but I dont remember it has a constraint for how long any alarm should run Jan 09 14:01:48 it's always indefinite Jan 09 14:03:44 oh my bad then Odaym, i thought it was only about UI Jan 09 14:03:51 oh, no Jan 09 14:04:40 I can count the number of times an alarm will have to show up if you tell me you want it every M W F for a period of 2 months/2 weeks/etc.. Jan 09 14:04:41 can't I? Jan 09 14:04:48 number of days * ..... Jan 09 14:13:25 I don't have enough phones here to test right now, but can I connect more than one phone with another over Bluetooth? I know that I can have like, a watch and headphones and stuff connected at the same time, but are there contraints when it comes to "classes" of devices for example? Jan 09 14:14:17 Anyone has experience with that. Example: Have Phone B and Phone C connect to Phone A over BT at the same time, so Phone A could share files with either of Phone B or C. Bonus points, if Phone A can share with both at the same time. Jan 09 14:18:15 is it more like mesh or centralized Jan 09 14:18:56 hello, I have a problem using jni support… My templated functions are in .tpp files in my source directory. But it won't rebuild if I modify one of these files… I need to make a modification on a .cpp source file who need it for rebuilding them Jan 09 14:19:01 does Android support Big Endian mode for AArch64? Jan 09 14:21:02 Ashiren more like a mesh, but I take what I can get. Jan 09 14:21:35 Is there a simple way of making a list? Do I need to use listView? seems to much for me. unnesecary use of resources Jan 09 14:24:50 you can use a recyclerview Jan 09 14:25:29 Sourcey: stack multiple textviews Jan 09 14:25:47 or buttons Jan 09 14:27:57 are there any tutorials available, which demonstrate how could I make an app, which involves the use of the phone's camera? Jan 09 14:31:07 aiks: i.e. https://developer.android.com/training/camera/cameradirect.html Jan 09 14:31:23 but hardware camera is tricky. in lollipop they introduced camera 2 api Jan 09 14:32:11 Well, I am referring to somewhat similar applications to what SnapChat does with their facial recognition algorithm Jan 09 14:33:33 Any info on that? Jan 09 14:36:16 i havent played with that myself but afaik camera2 exposes some face detection Jan 09 14:37:23 and using google play services, there are some features regarding picture algorithms https://developers.google.com/vision/ Jan 09 14:41:01 i am quite interested in movement and facial recognition Jan 09 14:41:14 I'd love to hear from someone, who has messed around with that Jan 09 14:42:26 what are you interested in Jan 09 14:42:38 money Jan 09 14:42:50 :) Jan 09 14:43:17 mostly learning for now haha Jan 09 14:43:30 then go learn and leave us alone Jan 09 14:43:48 what a nice guy you are Jan 09 14:43:56 thanks for your kind heart Jan 09 14:44:01 this is not a dating channel Jan 09 14:44:34 I thought this was a helpful community. Jan 09 14:44:38 I was wrong. Jan 09 14:44:50 aiks: do you have a question? Jan 09 14:44:58 if not we are as helpful as you need Jan 09 15:01:10 poor aiks Jan 09 15:03:51 do i need to use @SerializedName is the field name is exactly as it is on the json? Jan 09 15:05:21 don't be an asshole to him Jan 09 15:05:36 silly little man Jan 09 15:06:57 no Jan 09 15:07:08 but it is good practice to always use SerializedName Jan 09 15:07:22 thanks Ashiren Jan 09 15:09:00 the fields themself can be private? Jan 09 15:11:17 yes Jan 09 15:24:01 Is there a way I can tell google drive to keep a folder with photos synced or save my photos in a folder that automtically syncs with google drive? Jan 09 15:43:53 Is there a google photos api? Jan 09 15:53:05 Syzygy: http://bfy.tw/9Mjd Jan 09 15:54:12 also https://stackoverflow.com/a/30565302 Jan 09 15:55:18 stop spoon feeding please Jan 09 15:57:31 well, i did search for it myself and found next to nothing, just a "you can probably still use the picasa web api" which is somewhat unhelpful and somewhat similar to that stackoverflow. Jan 09 15:57:56 not quite sure what you want me to say Jan 09 16:01:56 sometimes you have to search efficiently to increase your probability to have pertinent answers Jan 09 16:02:27 they are working hard to solve that for ppl not able to search efficiently, which is little by little broking ppl who knows how to search efficiently Jan 09 16:03:05 like since a decade, google removed a lot of parameters from search, even strict expression starts to not give pertinent result it's awful Jan 09 16:03:46 and the playstore app search is also a good illustration of where search is going Jan 09 16:04:09 (looks totally broken to me, but it's a design choice on the other side) Jan 09 17:06:38 Does anyone know of any mobile device management solutions that provide OTA functionality for Android updates? Jan 09 17:08:25 i know genymobile (the company who makes genymotion) can do it Jan 09 17:08:59 but this is beyond app dev i believe Jan 09 17:10:00 I don't see any mention of OTA :( https://www.genymotion.com/genydeploy/ Jan 09 17:10:28 re-read my sentence Jan 09 17:10:42 * patarr rereads Jan 09 17:11:04 genymotion is just one of their product, genymobile offers many services like the one you ask for Jan 09 17:11:07 Okay, so you're saying that a company can do it. And that it's beyond app dev. Not sure what that even means, but I feel like I walked away noing no more than the name of a pretty cool company. Jan 09 17:11:23 s/noing/knowing Jan 09 17:11:26 this channel is for app dev, it's written in the topic Jan 09 17:11:34 Okay, I'll take the question elsewhere. Sorry! Jan 09 17:11:38 not really devices management Jan 09 17:11:44 it's ok man Jan 09 17:11:54 at least you know one company who does it now Jan 09 17:12:51 http://pastebin.com/95DyF9yJ whyyyy is tearDown being called before setUP? Jan 09 17:13:04 I'm getting an NPE on a variable that is created during setUp Jan 09 17:21:15 Answer: @Before was threw an exception and the test was trying to do @After, which failed because @Before failed. Jan 09 17:21:52 bad test Jan 09 17:44:06 seriously, google is going all-in on jcenter Jan 09 17:44:08 this is frustrating Jan 09 17:44:25 they totally ignore maven central... Jan 09 17:44:46 pfn: haven't seen you in a while Jan 09 17:44:47 hi Jan 09 17:45:04 hi, holidays kept me busy, then a subsequent lack of interest in all things computer... Jan 09 17:45:06 hey thepoosh Jan 09 17:45:17 ohithere Jan 09 17:45:22