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Jan 15 03:12:15 <TacticalJoke> 0% Scala :D
Jan 15 03:54:37 <CedricBeust> as it should
Jan 15 03:59:27 <android-dev713> I am trying to achive this on my friends HTC but keep getting permission denined dev mode is on and usb debugging  http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-gain-s-off-radio-and-engineering-on-htc-desire-hd/
Jan 15 04:00:10 <g00s> CedricBeust lol
Jan 15 04:00:48 <CedricBeust> I know of exactly one person who advocates for Scala on Android and he's... not exactly rational about it :)
Jan 15 04:01:18 <YouCallItFar> missing rational advocates
Jan 15 04:10:36 <g00s> CedricBeust read any good books lately ?
Jan 15 04:10:46 <g00s> programming stuff or otherwise
Jan 15 04:10:53 <CedricBeust> Sadly, haven't read technical books in years
Jan 15 04:11:17 <CedricBeust> Used to, but haven't felt the need to in a while. Feels like books get outdated very quickly these days
Jan 15 04:11:39 <g00s> yeah i was looking at 'docker in action' and its already out of date, but thats a young tech
Jan 15 04:12:47 <g00s> its almost like buying a phone, there are good times and bad times to buy one (in the upgrade cycle) .. you don't by a new iPhone 10 mos into the cycle; with these tech books the sweet time to read them is a few months after they are released
Jan 15 04:14:24 <g00s> CedricBeust do you jenkins or travis ? where is a good place to learn more about how those work in the context of mobile app dev ?
Jan 15 04:14:38 <g00s> continuous delivery, setting up a pipeline, etc
Jan 15 04:14:56 <g00s> maybe not tool specific, more like 10,000 ft overview
Jan 15 04:15:32 <g00s> i noticed the fowler series has continuous delivery book, buts its like 10 years old ... not sure if things are much different now
Jan 15 04:17:03 <jlx> Aight my friend is getting impatient could someone please point us to the right direction?
Jan 15 04:17:24 <CedricBeust> If the latest UncleBob blog posts are any indication, people that age are not exactly worth your time following
Jan 15 04:19:21 <g00s> oh, fowler is just the series editor. its those black-covered addison wesley books
Jan 15 04:19:29 <g00s> i think they just stamp his name on it :D
Jan 15 05:17:07 <jlx> Aight lets res ask and restart Hello im jlx and my friend wants to update his HTC desire hd  but via adb we keep getting permission denined even debugging and dev mode is on can anyone give any advice?
Jan 15 05:21:10 <Leeds> jlx: a) this is app dev not updates b) that's a pretty old phone c) do you get a debug notification on the phone? d) tried a different port and/or cable? e) what PC OS? f) if Windows, needs drivers
Jan 15 05:23:11 <jlx> A: Sadly windows and drivers are installed  b: best knowledge should be here in any case heh. and yes its old asf i told him buy a proper phone (altough i use a brick myself)
Jan 15 05:24:01 <jlx> but we are missing something since we keep geting permission denined
Jan 15 05:26:30 <jlx> But leeds thank you for replying thou
Jan 15 06:23:11 <PresidentNotSure> When refusing to accept a GoogleApiClient, how do I get the proper result code/which one is it?
Jan 15 06:24:39 <PresidentNotSure> The documentation says that it's the number 13, but I'm getting 0 when I cancel the authorization of a gapi service
Jan 15 06:25:03 <PresidentNotSure> https://developers.google.com/android/reference/com/google/android/gms/common/ConnectionResult.html#CANCELED
Jan 15 06:41:07 * raoul11 thepooshes thepoosh 
Jan 15 06:46:05 <thepoosh> raoul11 is da BOMB
Jan 15 06:46:19 <thepoosh> raoul11: are you coming on Tuesday to the Google prefs thing?
Jan 15 06:46:46 <raoul11> wasnt invited
Jan 15 06:46:48 <raoul11> link?
Jan 15 06:46:49 <thepoosh> https://www.meetup.com/TLV-Android-Academy/events/234739496/
Jan 15 06:47:36 <raoul11> are there spots open?
Jan 15 06:48:07 <thepoosh> dunno
Jan 15 06:48:09 <thepoosh> if so register
Jan 15 06:51:11 <raoul11> think im pending thepoosh
Jan 15 06:51:18 <raoul11> registered though
Jan 15 06:51:22 <thepoosh> I'll be waiting for you there
Jan 15 06:51:42 <raoul11> ran shmueli is lecturing?
Jan 15 06:52:14 <thepoosh> ran nachmani
Jan 15 06:52:19 <thepoosh> not shmueli
Jan 15 06:53:58 <raoul11> KEKEK
Jan 15 06:54:01 <raoul11> shmueli is the chef
Jan 15 07:09:04 <PresidentNotSure> Nevermind about my question.
Jan 15 07:58:45 <thepoosh> squ: here?
Jan 15 09:00:48 <kubast2> Is it normal just asking? Could it be cable? or something else? http://i.imgur.com/ezXDuU3.png
Jan 15 09:01:48 <kubast2> Nah nvm it only happens with clear command nvm
Jan 15 09:02:02 <kubast2> remebered it was persistent
Jan 15 10:12:46 <Almis90> Hey guys I have an imageview with android:adjustViewBounds="true" and android:scaleType="centerCrop" and what it does it makes my imageview stretch full width in the listview but it keeps the aspect ration and it's not cropping anything
Jan 15 10:13:41 <Lillo> Hi everyone
Jan 15 10:14:07 <Almis90> what I want is if the width of the image is smaller than the parent then show that original width
Jan 15 10:15:16 <Ashiren> how about fitCeenter
Jan 15 10:16:11 <Almis90> Ashiren I will try it now
Jan 15 10:20:50 <Ashiren> or see this http://etcodehome.blogspot.com/2011/05/android-imageview-scaletype-samples.html
Jan 15 10:26:40 <Mavrik> adjustViewBounds is usually pretty unreliable if you have arbitrary images
Jan 15 10:26:43 <Mavrik> I usually avoid using it
Jan 15 10:40:20 <Almis90> https://s30.postimg.org/byjdqydwx/image.jpg
Jan 15 10:40:33 <Almis90> This is how my listview looks
Jan 15 10:41:29 <Almis90> The first 3 images are 200px width and the height range is about 100-150 and the last icon (music note) is 24 dp
Jan 15 10:41:40 <Almis90> I want the 3 first images to be the real size
Jan 15 10:42:44 <Almis90> http://pastebin.com/y1qNNhEd
Jan 15 10:44:02 <Almis90> Is it possible that the image is already 200px in that screenshot?
Jan 15 11:38:40 <jirido> Hi My Munjeros,, I just got my hands on a 'New'old HTC desire HD (gsm, A9191). It's old but a love to me all the same. And much better than my really old galaxy Xcover GT s5690 with a ghostly crackelyzed screen. So I looked and saw that some HTC desire, atleast, is supported by rom  cm-11-unofficial  http://trueandroid.com/en/update-htc-desire-to-android-4-4-2-kitkat-via-cm11-unofficial-how-to/. So I
Jan 15 11:38:46 <jirido> went to adb and tried to set ...
Jan 15 11:38:48 <jirido> ... S OFF but cant get root permissions in the root shell. No write to sdcard or /  'su' 'push' and 'self' gives permission denied even though i have debug mode on on the phone, Am I a idiot to think that there is something seriously wrong.. or am I just an idiot?  I found nothing useful on old onkel G How ever i thickled.  I ask myself what the hell is happening to me.. I did a Factory reset! I know
Jan 15 11:38:54 <jirido> this eventually is not the ...
Jan 15 11:38:57 <jirido> ... place I should ask but we all know the spirit wanders here and that your knowledge coctails ofcource is the best! :-) Sorry?  HELP! Please I'm so darn desperato and got important stuff going on!
Jan 15 11:42:59 <jirido> Android is 2.3.6
Jan 15 11:49:36 <PresidentNotSure> jirido, you need to go to #android-root for root stuff
Jan 15 11:50:10 <Almis90> https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-hd
Jan 15 12:02:52 <iLembus>  I have a MySQL database inside raw/ and i was plannign to read from it by using Xenial
Jan 15 12:02:52 <iLembus> i only need to read from it on startup and then i can ignore it
Jan 15 12:02:53 <iLembus> how would one do so? Getting the resource path seems to be impossible because
Jan 15 12:03:04 <iLembus> ... resources have no paths
Jan 15 12:19:19 <maour> ButtonBarLayout has direction=local by default, but i don't want to have RTL on rtl phone, how should i keep it ltr always?!
Jan 15 12:28:43 <squ> thepoosh: yes
Jan 15 12:30:41 <Trinity> Is there a way to download android sdk without the sdkmanager? Maybe a github mirror?
Jan 15 12:31:56 <squ> manager is just gui?
Jan 15 12:35:33 <Odaym> what am I doing wrong here? none of the alarms trigger http://paste.ofcode.org/DC4ZmTt3dYbur5RcsLdrhN
Jan 15 12:37:52 <squ> unlikely you'll find someone who willl read thru all your code and debug it
Jan 15 12:38:02 <Odaym> alllllll the code?
Jan 15 12:38:19 <Odaym> i only have doubts about line 10
Jan 15 12:38:23 <Odaym> and it's not unlikely
Jan 15 12:38:25 <Odaym> bruh
Jan 15 12:42:02 <Odaym> there is nothing wrong with the code, this is how alarms are set!
Jan 15 12:42:09 <Odaym> i am baffled
Jan 15 12:42:13 <Odaym> baffled I am
Jan 15 12:42:33 <iLembus_> java.sql.SQLException: path to 'android.resource://de.dralle.dralledvd/2131230720': '/android.resource:' does not exist
Jan 15 12:43:02 <iLembus_> I'M trying to connect to    Uri.parse("jdbc:sqlite:android.resource://de.dralle.dralledvd/" + R.raw.movies);
Jan 15 12:44:05 <squ> what kind of url is that
Jan 15 12:45:41 <squ> I mean the scheme
Jan 15 12:46:13 <squ> how could there be multiple schemes
Jan 15 12:53:36 <raoul11> need advise: i am gettin a json from the api via retrofit/gson, which maps to a pojo. there could be occurences where some fields will be missing in the api - and i want to exclude those objects from the final list of legit pojos
Jan 15 12:54:22 <Zharf> you'll have to iterate and remove them then
Jan 15 12:54:48 <raoul11> isnt it possible to use a jsondeserializer?
Jan 15 12:55:18 <raoul11> i am using it now, but once it catches the exception, it stops deserialization completely
Jan 15 12:55:26 <thepoosh> squ: I finally managed to make the fucking theme work
Jan 15 12:55:28 <thepoosh> sort of
Jan 15 12:55:36 * raoul11 themes thepoosh 
Jan 15 12:55:42 <thepoosh> :S
Jan 15 12:55:51 <thepoosh> raoul11: I am poorer today
Jan 15 12:55:55 <Zharf> raoul11, you'd have to deserialize the entire json, I think, not the elements in a list separately
Jan 15 12:56:01 <thepoosh> wife scraped a car while talking on the phone
Jan 15 12:56:13 <raoul11> am poorer than you
Jan 15 12:56:27 <raoul11> Zharf: i am testing on a complete json which is basically a list of pojos
Jan 15 12:56:47 <Zharf> code?
Jan 15 12:56:56 <raoul11> lemme gather something
Jan 15 12:58:28 <iLembus_> How do I add a file to my classpath? Because i have a sql database file i want to read from
Jan 15 13:03:13 <raoul11> Zharf https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f4aca63edb932094a8b411b3a760dbc9
Jan 15 13:03:36 <raoul11> the object is a plain pojo with setters/getters
Jan 15 13:04:53 <Zharf> you'll need to register a deserializer for ArrayList<DObject>
Jan 15 13:05:07 <raoul11> hmm
Jan 15 13:05:07 <Zharf> otherwise you can't skip elements in the list
Jan 15 13:06:59 <raoul11> how should that deserializer look like?
Jan 15 13:17:02 <freelancerbob> hi
Jan 15 13:17:11 <Melatonina> hi bob
Jan 15 13:17:18 <thepoosh> hi Mel
Jan 15 13:17:26 <Melatonina> hi thep
Jan 15 13:17:30 <thepoosh> heh
Jan 15 13:17:31 <Melatonina> hi rao
Jan 15 13:17:36 <Melatonina> :)
Jan 15 13:18:17 <thepoosh> freelancerbob: what's the news?
Jan 15 13:18:19 <freelancerbob> looking for app or solution for android phones. App will run on android phones in shops where you see just product presentation and after click only internet explorer with internal page will appear.
Jan 15 13:18:49 <thepoosh> freelancerbob: cannot be done unless you build your own launcher
Jan 15 13:19:00 <tx> which isn't too hard
Jan 15 13:19:04 <tx> also
Jan 15 13:19:06 <tx> internet explorer?
Jan 15 13:19:08 <tx> you mean browser? :P
Jan 15 13:19:28 <thepoosh> tx: don't condescend the man
Jan 15 13:19:50 <tx> Hey I've seen someone ask if they could get IE running on android
Jan 15 13:19:53 <tx> because of compatibility
Jan 15 13:19:54 <freelancerbob> tx: webview would be enough
Jan 15 13:20:00 <thepoosh> Endge is the BOMB!
Jan 15 13:20:13 <thepoosh> it finds everything super fast when I bing it
Jan 15 13:20:33 <thepoosh> freelancerbob: look into launcher and overriding the home and power buttons
Jan 15 13:20:42 <tx> thepoosh: so on an old project of mine I am using google's gdata libraries
Jan 15 13:20:52 <tx> which are old, but they are the lastest versions
Jan 15 13:21:12 <tx> for some reason this makes the projects build time about 10 times longer than it should be
Jan 15 13:21:27 <tx> and the build log spams with warnings (build is successful though)
Jan 15 13:21:38 <freelancerbob> thepoosh: but how i lock that phone only for that application ?
Jan 15 13:21:49 <squ> thepoosh: will you show it?
Jan 15 13:21:55 <thepoosh> not yet
Jan 15 13:21:57 <thepoosh> almost
Jan 15 13:22:02 <tx> show it?
Jan 15 13:22:05 <thepoosh> freelancerbob: you listen to boot complete
Jan 15 13:22:06 <tx> I missed some context. :(
Jan 15 13:22:12 <thepoosh> and start the app
Jan 15 13:22:18 <thepoosh> and disallow power and home clicks
Jan 15 13:23:11 <thepoosh> squ: http://imgur.com/a/jTEcr
Jan 15 13:23:28 <thepoosh> for some reason the hint text color only changes in the closed state
Jan 15 13:23:33 <thepoosh> and not the opened state
Jan 15 13:23:47 <squ> did you used the my themes
Jan 15 13:23:54 <tx> what is this?
Jan 15 13:23:56 <thepoosh> well, some of them
Jan 15 13:24:00 <tx> do tell.
Jan 15 13:24:04 <thepoosh> tx: a 4 days old discussion
Jan 15 13:24:08 <tx> ah
Jan 15 13:24:09 <thepoosh> about my poor layout skills
Jan 15 13:24:16 <squ> you need to use all properties to color this thing, because I tested that on many phones
Jan 15 13:24:20 <thepoosh> squ: did you like the masking?
Jan 15 13:24:24 <tx> Your keyboard is very pre 5.0 :P
Jan 15 13:24:37 <thepoosh> it's a Note 3 running 4.4.2
Jan 15 13:24:41 <tx> that'l do it.
Jan 15 13:24:47 <thepoosh> on purpose
Jan 15 13:24:50 <thepoosh> to check the support lib
Jan 15 13:24:55 <tx> yeah
Jan 15 13:25:02 <thepoosh> I also have multiple newer devices
Jan 15 13:25:09 <squ> I don't understand why people ask for help and then skip it
Jan 15 13:25:10 <thepoosh> N5 N5x N6 N6p
Jan 15 13:25:12 <thepoosh> OPO
Jan 15 13:25:21 <thepoosh> squ: I didn't skip it
Jan 15 13:25:23 <squ> asked to search thru the logs and don't use it
Jan 15 13:25:25 <thepoosh> don't be like that
Jan 15 13:25:33 <thepoosh> I am putting it together
Jan 15 13:25:49 <thepoosh> don't be like that, you're my sunshine
Jan 15 13:26:12 <tx> :3
Jan 15 13:26:13 <thepoosh> your code has been open here since Wednesday
Jan 15 13:26:16 <thepoosh> <3
Jan 15 13:26:21 <squ> get the properties I listed in that paste to color this thing
Jan 15 13:26:41 <tx> After many removing, swapping and excluding with my build.gradle file
Jan 15 13:26:44 <tx> this: https://hastebin.com/eyowepaciz.vbs
Jan 15 13:26:47 <tx> still happens every time
Jan 15 13:26:47 <thepoosh> all but, android:foregroundTint is not recognized by the system here
Jan 15 13:26:52 <tx> and it slows everything down.
Jan 15 13:26:59 <thepoosh> and there are restrictions I cannot bypass
Jan 15 13:27:04 <thepoosh> due to the project settings
Jan 15 13:27:12 <squ> thepoosh: tried support packages?
Jan 15 13:27:15 <thepoosh> this is not an app I'm making myself
Jan 15 13:27:23 <thepoosh> yeah, I have design and appcompat
Jan 15 13:27:31 <squ> compile 'com.android.support:appcompat-v7:25.0.1'
Jan 15 13:27:31 <squ> compile 'com.android.support:design:25.0.1'
Jan 15 13:27:31 <squ> compile 'com.android.support:support-v4:25.0.1'
Jan 15 13:28:14 <squ> try AppTheme too
Jan 15 13:28:14 <squ> <style name="AppTheme" parent="Theme.AppCompat.NoActionBar">
Jan 15 13:28:19 <thepoosh> yep yep
Jan 15 13:28:32 <squ> in AndroidManifest:
Jan 15 13:28:33 <squ> 	<application android:theme="@style/AppTheme"
Jan 15 13:28:40 <thepoosh> parent is Theme.AppCompat.Light.NoActionBar
Jan 15 13:28:45 <thepoosh> and not the regular one
Jan 15 13:29:16 <squ> I wonder why foreground is not recognized then?
Jan 15 13:29:46 <squ> public class thepoosh extends AppCompatActivity {
Jan 15 13:29:49 <squ> this?
Jan 15 13:29:50 <thepoosh> i think it's the tint
Jan 15 13:30:01 <thepoosh> it breaks in the lint of the styles
Jan 15 13:30:04 <thepoosh> not in runtime
Jan 15 13:30:40 <squ> tx: try android:foregroundTint
Jan 15 13:30:40 <raoul11> Zharf: am gonna just return null and exclude those when adding new items to the list of objects
Jan 15 13:30:50 <squ> raoul11: try android:foregroundTint, is it recognized?
Jan 15 13:30:52 <tx> tx: will do, legend mate.
Jan 15 13:31:04 <raoul11> squ /:
Jan 15 13:31:08 <squ> :)
Jan 15 13:32:02 <squ> property of <android.support.design.widget.TextInputLayout
Jan 15 13:32:16 <thepoosh> also squ, because it was nested in a LinearLayout some of the attributes had to be put in the parent and some were not
Jan 15 13:32:32 <thepoosh> it was very weird to me
Jan 15 13:32:43 <thepoosh> and unintuitive, I learned I must know this ASAP
Jan 15 13:32:53 <squ> what attributes
Jan 15 13:33:04 <squ> you mean you coloured that thing in parent LinearLayout?
Jan 15 13:33:13 <squ> :)
Jan 15 13:34:09 <squ> thepoosh: do you use LinearLayout to split First/Last name in half?
Jan 15 13:42:16 <PresidentNotSure> I have a lot of states to save in the bundle thingy, but manually doing string keys for them is very tiring. Is there a faster way?
Jan 15 13:46:41 <adq> PresidentNotSure, create a parcelable of your class
Jan 15 13:46:46 <adq> and simply pass your object
Jan 15 13:48:12 <adq> thepoosh, it's full of false positive, if it runs and displays properly at runtime, you know the culprit
Jan 15 13:48:54 <adq> i'm mad at lint that i'm not sure it's always worth it due to how many times i realize it's just a false positive instead of a real issue
Jan 15 13:49:12 <adq> example: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AladinQ/posts/JE3ZDug2B6x?sfc=true
Jan 15 13:49:37 <adq> been like that since long time, filled a ticket more than a year ago
Jan 15 13:51:42 <adq> the ticket https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=201542
Jan 15 13:52:02 <adq> s/more than//
Jan 15 14:03:19 <thepoosh> 15:34 squ: thepoosh: do you use LinearLayout to split First/Last name in half?
Jan 15 14:03:20 <thepoosh> yes
Jan 15 14:11:37 <PresidentNotSure> Where should I destroy a running thread? In onSaveInstanceState or onDestroy?
Jan 15 14:17:22 <adq> PresidentNotSure, symmetrically to where you ran it like in onPause if you run it from onResume, or as soon as it should not run anymore
Jan 15 14:17:33 <thepoosh> PresidentNotSure: what is the thread doing/
Jan 15 14:17:34 <thepoosh> ?
Jan 15 14:17:48 <PresidentNotSure> thepoosh, a basic countdown
Jan 15 14:18:33 <thepoosh> so why in a separate thread and not in a CountDownTimer?
Jan 15 14:18:37 <PresidentNotSure> adq, I want to destroy it because the activity is being destroyed due to orientation change
Jan 15 14:19:27 <PresidentNotSure> thepoosh, don't know why I did it this way some months ago
Jan 15 14:20:51 <thepoosh> PresidentNotSure: consider changing it
Jan 15 14:21:34 <PresidentNotSure> thepoosh, considering it right now
Jan 15 14:22:58 <PresidentNotSure> thepoosh, it runs on the main thread, right?
Jan 15 14:24:02 <thepoosh> it handles the timeout internally on a different thread and all the callbacks are on the main thread
Jan 15 14:25:08 <raoul11> errrr this doesnt make sense
Jan 15 14:25:22 <thepoosh> raoul11: ?
Jan 15 14:25:40 <raoul11> i am trying to deserialize an object which nests other objects in JsonDeserializer
Jan 15 14:25:45 <thepoosh> PresidentNotSure: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/CountDownTimer.html
Jan 15 14:25:54 <PresidentNotSure> thepoosh, looking at it
Jan 15 14:26:12 <raoul11> not primitives though, other pojos
Jan 15 14:29:41 <raoul11> thepoosh http://pastebin.com/xsndEhrQ
Jan 15 14:31:59 <thepoosh> raoul11: jackson or gson?
Jan 15 14:32:12 <raoul11> gson
Jan 15 14:32:40 <raoul11> trying to do the missing values checking on the deserialization level
Jan 15 14:32:52 <raoul11> but i dont know how to return a new object
Jan 15 14:33:07 <raoul11> when its nesting other objects
Jan 15 14:35:13 <thepoosh> again, there is a list of FukObject
Jan 15 14:35:22 <thepoosh> and in it there is an array of Home objects
Jan 15 14:35:37 <thepoosh> you need to serialize only the ones that have valid Home objects?
Jan 15 14:36:15 <raoul11> yeah, but i dont see how i can recreate a valid object from jsonObject
Jan 15 14:37:06 <raoul11> theres a type on JsonDeserializer<Home>
Jan 15 14:37:11 <raoul11> typo ffs
Jan 15 14:38:22 <raoul11> dont see how i can build a complex deserializer with the getAsString/getAsInt/etc methods
Jan 15 14:53:56 <tx> raoul11: what are you deserializing from
Jan 15 14:54:00 <tx> an API?
Jan 15 14:57:04 <hk238> hello!
Jan 15 14:58:25 <hk238> I was just getting started with android studio and am a beginner. How can I handle the portrait / landscape mode change? Or is there a relative unit like for an example percentage? Or a number that changes value depending on the mode?
Jan 15 15:01:35 <thepoosh> sorry, had a giant poop to do
Jan 15 15:01:37 <thepoosh> where were we?
Jan 15 15:02:03 <thepoosh> hk238: how do you mean? layoutwise?
Jan 15 15:03:14 <hk238> In concrete terms like I have a layout, I was thinking making it look nice would be possible with having a margin of 10 pixels when the device is in vertical position and 0pixels when it's in landscape position
Jan 15 15:04:18 <hk238> I'm just getting started and downloaded this text-based open source program and I'm just trying to tweak some cosmetics and learn how it works.. And moving some buttons around. That's pretty much all I got so far..
Jan 15 15:25:27 <mohsen_> Hi. I load this sql script from an assets file and I use db.execSql() to run it, but I get that error: https://ptpb.pw/e22w
Jan 15 15:25:39 <homa_> i'm back
Jan 15 15:26:01 <mohsen_> Oh sry, forgot to append the error, hold on pls.
Jan 15 15:27:08 <mohsen_> Here it is: https://ptpb.pw/7fCT
Jan 15 15:34:45 <canoe> mohsen_, well for one, there is no such thing as BIGINT(20) in sqlite https://www.sqlite.org/datatype3.html
Jan 15 15:37:12 <mohsen_> I see
Jan 15 15:37:54 <canoe> Has anyone here tried using mockito with autovalue? Mockito does not know how subclass an autovalue definition. any way around this?
Jan 15 16:10:02 <_AleX_> hi all ! i have a view with a working onfling gesture detector. When i add a setMovementMethod to a textview in the view, the onfling method stop working on the textview. Any idea ?
Jan 15 17:01:15 <munowse> https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/117496/how-can-i-automatically-clear-my-browsing-data-when-i-exit-chrome: if you look at the answer providing a solution for root - why is the profile set to invert (Not browser)?
Jan 15 17:06:11 <wreed> when is it appropriate to use cardview's to display some information?
Jan 15 17:21:00 <fslima0>  Hello. Can anyone point me to a manual about telephony terminology such as imei, nt code, mcc-mnc, etc..? Thanks in advance.
Jan 15 17:27:14 <mohsen_> Is AutoCompleteTextView the way to go for viewing suggestions in a dropdown while the user is typing in the EditText?
Jan 15 18:23:57 <bubbely> how can i get the desktop wallpaper as a uri, or bitmap or drawable ?
Jan 15 18:24:06 <bubbely> i wanna use the desktop wallpaper as my app wallpaper
Jan 15 18:44:22 <adq> http://imgur.com/a/DfFkc playing with curvedlayout + RV on little round screen
Jan 15 18:44:50 <adq> (ignore the bottom gif)
Jan 15 18:47:50 <purplex88> Do I need to include super.onPreExecute(); super.onProgressUpdate(values) super.onPostExecute(aVoid) in AsynTask?
Jan 15 18:47:58 <adq> nope
Jan 15 18:48:27 <adq> you could figure out yourself by going to implementation, you will probably see there is nothing there
Jan 15 18:50:03 <Dagmar> I generally just trust that AS will yell at me if I miss one
Jan 15 18:59:42 <purplex88> adq: right theres nothing.
Jan 15 19:01:50 <SimonVT> On methods where it's required you'll see something like mCalled = true;
Jan 15 19:04:07 <wreed> I am using android studio and for some reason i am not able to use the code from my imported module
Jan 15 19:04:08 * wreed http://imgur.com/a/skYas
Jan 15 19:04:35 <bananabas> hi guys!
Jan 15 19:04:50 <bananabas> how can i make a simple app that logs data from all available phone sensors?
Jan 15 19:05:57 <purplex88> SimonVT: Yes, I see "mCalled = true;" for onCreate in Activity.java
Jan 15 19:06:41 <bananabas> (it's my first time creating an app=
Jan 15 19:07:11 <wreed> bananabas maybe run through some android basic tutorial stuff from the official android site first so you can wrap your head around whats going on here
Jan 15 19:07:18 <wreed> then work your way to it
Jan 15 19:07:23 <wreed> or use the udacity android course
Jan 15 19:07:45 <bananabas> wreed: ok but how long would you estimate this takes
Jan 15 19:07:55 <bananabas> i mean building such an app
Jan 15 19:07:56 <wreed> do you know java
Jan 15 19:07:58 <Quacked> Anyone here with a rooted Xperia X Performance (or Compact) or a XZ that can check if they have the following file? /sys/devices/virtual/input/clearpad/glove
Jan 15 19:08:07 <bananabas> wreed: no, but i know python
Jan 15 19:08:14 <SimonVT> Quacked: Please use #android or #android-root for device help
Jan 15 19:08:22 <wreed> eek well ok start by learning java
Jan 15 19:08:35 <wreed> (if you can create an app with python its beyond me)
Jan 15 19:08:48 <Quacked> SimonVT, I'm asking because I need to know what devices work with my app :)
Jan 15 19:08:49 <bananabas> wreed: sounds like it'd take months
Jan 15 19:08:56 <wreed> it would
Jan 15 19:09:12 <bananabas> first learn java, then the specifics of android app development
Jan 15 19:09:19 <bananabas> and THEN build the app
Jan 15 19:09:44 <wreed> yes precisely
Jan 15 19:09:56 <bananabas> i don't have months :)
Jan 15 19:09:58 <bananabas> i have days
Jan 15 19:10:04 <wreed> why are you in a rush
Jan 15 19:10:12 <Dagmar> Looks like you picked a bad project then
Jan 15 19:10:40 <bananabas> i thought this would be like a hello world thing, not too complicated, few lines of code
Jan 15 19:11:23 <bananabas> well, i'm not in a particular rush, but i'm not training to become an android developer. i just want to install this on my phone and play around with the data it collects
Jan 15 19:11:32 <Dagmar> Start with a hello world app then
Jan 15 19:11:39 <bananabas> so i'm interested in it from a 'data science' perspective
Jan 15 19:11:42 <Dagmar> Do you have any previous programming experience?
Jan 15 19:12:08 <bananabas> Dagmar: yes, i have experience with C/C++ and python
Jan 15 19:12:47 <Dagmar> Then you can probably learn enough java to manage as you go along
Jan 15 19:13:08 <bananabas> hmm
Jan 15 19:13:16 <Dagmar> Install Android Studio... pull up YouTube and perhaps look for 'slidenerd'.  Their tutorial videos could get you through a Hello World app in the next couple of hours
Jan 15 19:13:44 <Colt> Anybody had problem with Intellij IDEA freezing when using "play-services-ads:10.0.1"?
Jan 15 19:14:19 <bananabas> or maybe i could pay one of you guys to do it?
Jan 15 19:14:34 <Dagmar> looool
Jan 15 19:14:45 <bananabas> it probably wouldn't take more than a day for an experienced dev
Jan 15 19:15:07 <Dagmar> Actually it probably still would since there's rather a lot of sensors involved
Jan 15 19:15:12 <bananabas> i mean, it's really basic, it doesn't even need to have an interface
Jan 15 19:15:36 <bananabas> just needs to write sensor data to a file periodically
Jan 15 19:16:08 <Dagmar> Well, if that's all it is then certainly you should be able to write it yourself tonight
Jan 15 19:16:22 <bananabas> that's encouraging!
Jan 15 19:16:47 <bananabas> in python: for sensor in sensors:
Jan 15 19:16:59 <bananabas>                     write(data)
Jan 15 19:17:07 <bananabas> :))
Jan 15 19:17:20 <bananabas> well, write sensor.data :)
Jan 15 19:17:21 <Dagmar> Gosh if there were only Ruby on Rails for Android
Jan 15 19:17:30 <Dagmar> Then people could play pretend devel on Android
Jan 15 19:17:37 <bananabas> or python
Jan 15 19:18:15 <bananabas> so you think it'd be a fast project?
Jan 15 19:18:30 <Dagmar> Actually I think it's a really simple project that will involve a lot of tedious reading
Jan 15 19:18:53 <Dagmar> Some of the sensors aren't just as simple as polling some external variable
Jan 15 19:19:02 <Dagmar> GPS readings alone are a fairly complex sequence of things
Jan 15 19:19:23 <bananabas> ok let's start simple then
Jan 15 19:19:24 <Dagmar> Those you don't get to read directly (unless you're insane)
Jan 15 19:19:43 <bananabas> say i'd want to make a fitness step counter
Jan 15 19:20:04 <bananabas> accelerometer data would probably be all i needed
Jan 15 19:20:08 <Dagmar> You'd need to learn how to read the gravity sensor, yeah
Jan 15 19:20:32 <Dagmar> ...and then you'd need to learn calculus so you can plot the minimas and maximas needed to detect steps
Jan 15 19:20:34 <bananabas> is that significantly simpler than *all* the sensors
Jan 15 19:20:47 <bananabas> the calculus part i got covered
Jan 15 19:21:03 <bananabas> fast fourier transforms and all
Jan 15 19:21:07 <Dagmar> As far as I know the gravity sensor is one that can just be polled
Jan 15 19:21:31 <bananabas> only part i miss is getting the bloody data out :D
Jan 15 19:22:29 <Dagmar> https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/sensors/sensors_motion.html
Jan 15 19:22:56 <bananabas> here starts the reading :)
Jan 15 19:24:20 <Dagmar> Remember the name 'slidenerd' because a lot of Android documentation is more useful for refeshing one's memory than it is actually learning WTF things do
Jan 15 19:24:36 <bananabas> yea
Jan 15 19:24:44 <bananabas> there's nothing to refresh in my case
Jan 15 19:25:34 <bananabas> "you might have to implement low-pass and high-pass filters to eliminate gravitational forces and reduce noise"
Jan 15 19:25:59 <bananabas> that's one of the only things that make sense to me on that page :)
Jan 15 19:28:12 <bananabas> option B is start from an already-made open source app and modify it to suit my purpose
Jan 15 19:28:29 <bananabas> and option C is still $$$ someone
Jan 15 19:32:39 <adq> bananabas, go option B with something like https://github.com/pocmo/SensorDashboard
Jan 15 19:32:55 <adq> because C is forbidden here and there is no option A
Jan 15 19:33:21 <adq> you should be able to easily plug an LPF or an HPF if you know dsp
Jan 15 19:34:58 <adq> there is also https://github.com/google/wear-sensors but despite being "semi-official" it does more than you ask since it was mainly an example for android wear
Jan 15 19:35:14 <adq> there are so many projects like that anyway.. it's up to you to pick one
Jan 15 19:39:48 <YouCallItFar> E/AndroidRuntime( 8451): java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: dlopen failed: cannot locate symbol "atof"
Jan 15 19:40:00 <YouCallItFar> tried all the SO answers
Jan 15 19:41:50 <YouCallItFar> wonder if it has anything to do with me using https://github.com/emileb/OpenSSL-for-Android-Prebuilt
Jan 15 19:42:00 <YouCallItFar> it doesnt seem to be an atof in my code
Jan 15 19:42:14 <YouCallItFar> however my understanding is recently atof changed from being an inline function to defined in a library
Jan 15 19:42:21 <YouCallItFar> so that would seem to suggest something im building from source
Jan 15 19:42:32 <YouCallItFar> could also be sqlcipher... hrm...
Jan 15 19:42:51 <YouCallItFar> i wonder if its just failing to link wherever atof is defined?
Jan 15 19:43:30 <Dagmar> o.O
Jan 15 19:43:46 <Dagmar> You'll laugh when you see _which_ library that's supposed to be in
Jan 15 19:50:33 <wreed> I am using android studio and for some reason i am not able to use the code from my imported module http://imgur.com/a/skYas
Jan 15 19:55:09 <SimonVT> Check your build.gradle that you have properly added the module as a dependency
Jan 15 19:55:29 <SimonVT> There's a bit on multi module projects in the docs: http://tools.android.com/tech-docs/new-build-system/user-guide#TOC-Multi-project-setup
Jan 15 19:56:57 <wreed> SimonVT i have the dependency in the build.gradle and the include in the settings.gradle but this is still here
Jan 15 19:58:14 <SimonVT> Try tools > android > sync. If that doesn't work, you probably didn't add it the right place :)
Jan 15 19:59:34 <wreed> SimonVT ok so i have the "compile project(':shared')" under the dependencies for build.gradle for the app module and i have "include ':shared'" and "project(':shared').projectDir = new File(settingsDir, '../shared')" in my settings.gradle for the whole project
Jan 15 19:59:43 <wreed> are any of those in the wrong file?
Jan 15 19:59:58 <SimonVT> I don't know what files you put them in, or where in those files
Jan 15 20:00:29 <SimonVT> The compile and include lines, in themselves, are fine
Jan 15 20:00:38 <SimonVT> The last thing I have no idea what is or does
Jan 15 20:00:54 <SimonVT> Not needed for a standard multi module project
Jan 15 20:01:05 <wreed> SimonVT the last thing is for adding an external project to this
Jan 15 20:02:07 <SimonVT> So you have a module called "shared" in your project, and then another external project called "shared"?
Jan 15 20:02:38 <wreed> the module in my project called shared appeared after i added the prementioned lines to my gradle files
Jan 15 20:06:19 <wreed> SimonVT if i were to remove the lines mentioning the external module the module visible on the side panel in android studio would go away too
Jan 15 20:06:23 <adq> weird because it looks correct
Jan 15 20:06:28 <SimonVT> Maybe find an existing multi module project and see what you do different. I have one (https://github.com/SimonVT/schematic), as well as many other android libraries
Jan 15 20:06:37 <adq> that how i also add external project
Jan 15 20:07:06 <SimonVT> schematic-samples depends on the others
Jan 15 20:07:53 <wreed> i use my shared project for my webservice and for this app so i dont have any android library plugins in the shared gradle files
Jan 15 20:07:59 <wreed> could that be a problem for this?
Jan 15 20:09:19 <bananabas> adq: option A was to write this myself from scratch, without any previous Java experience
Jan 15 20:09:45 <wreed> adq were your external projects in that case using the android library plugin
Jan 15 20:12:04 <wreed> SimonVT in that project were the modules you added subprojects instead of external?
Jan 15 20:12:09 <adq> i'm not in front right now and it's a big project, so i'm not sure, but i still have that in my bookmark: http://www.philosophicalhacker.com/2014/10/03/an-alternative-multiproject-setup-for-android-studio/
Jan 15 20:12:16 <bananabas> adq: also, do you think i could make do with the accelerometer only or would i also need the gyroscope data?
Jan 15 20:12:17 <adq> this might help you figure it out
Jan 15 20:12:30 <adq> bananabas, i have no idea
Jan 15 20:12:39 <bananabas> ok
Jan 15 20:13:25 <SimonVT> wreed: Yes, all modules are in the same project
Jan 15 20:13:34 <SimonVT> If not I use maven dependencies
Jan 15 20:15:45 <bananabas> adq: Sensor Dashboard states that it "Only works with Android Wear for now", does that mean I cannot use it with a regular smartphone?
Jan 15 20:15:51 <SimonVT> None of this weird including modules in multiple projects
Jan 15 20:16:12 <adq> hey i just gave you some example bananabas, i'm nto the maintainer of the lib, but sensor on wear works exactly the same as on a regular android device
Jan 15 20:16:34 <bananabas> yup, that was my question, tnx! :)
Jan 15 20:16:39 <adq> and iirc, they also cover a regular handheld
Jan 15 20:16:53 <wreed> SimonVT maybe i just have this structured wrong. So I have a webservice and this android app that depend on the 'shared' code that is the data representations for the Users etc of my project. would it make sense to keep the shared code as a seperate project or make it this subproject structure
Jan 15 20:17:12 <wreed> if i keep it as it is with a seperate project maybe i can try adding it with maven
Jan 15 20:17:34 <SimonVT> Either have all 3 modules in the same project, or install the shared code into your local maven repo
Jan 15 20:18:41 <wreed> SimonVT so then that shared project would be a maven project instead of a gradle project right
Jan 15 20:18:46 <SimonVT> In schematic I include /gradle/gradle-mvn-push.gradle in all modules. This lets me do gradlew install to install the modules into the local maven repo
Jan 15 20:19:33 <SimonVT> No, it can still be a gradle project
Jan 15 20:20:01 <wreed> hmm ok
Jan 15 20:20:09 <wreed> not sure if i want to go the subproject route or the maven route
Jan 15 20:21:04 <SimonVT> (gradle-mvn-push.gradle is half broken, since dependencies aren't added to the generated pom for android modules.. But installing to the local maven would be the correct approach)
Jan 15 20:42:02 <YouCallItFar> well i see atof defined in toolchain/sysroot/usr/lib/libc.a
Jan 15 20:42:24 <YouCallItFar> i made standalone toolchain of android-20 from ndk-r13b
Jan 15 20:43:00 <YouCallItFar> my Application.mk APP_PLATFORM is android-9 as are the minimum versions in gradle while targets are 20
Jan 15 20:43:53 <adq> big disappointment on android weekly content again this week
Jan 15 20:45:52 <wreed> SimonVT i wound up just adding the pom.xml to my shared and installed it to my local repo. do you know how to add a maven dependency in gradle? im looking it up but having trouble i thought it would be simple
Jan 15 20:46:42 <SimonVT> Look at your other dependencies
Jan 15 20:46:48 <SimonVT> compile 'something:something:version'
Jan 15 20:47:37 <wreed> ah i just missed a :
Jan 15 20:47:44 <wreed> thanks SimonVT for the help i have it working now with maven
Jan 15 20:49:11 <SimonVT> Great :)
Jan 15 20:52:40 <YouCallItFar> maybe ill try 21
Jan 15 20:52:45 <renkon> hi im wondering how can i make my app to show notifications one at midnight, one at 8am and one at 4pm (and also when phone boots), im novice and have read about alarmmanager and services and broadcastreceivers but didnt come to any conclusion. my idea is to show notification even if the app is not running
Jan 15 20:58:02 <YouCallItFar> waiting on build...  please atof gods
Jan 15 21:03:42 <YouCallItFar> any recs for what platform to target and what platform tools to use, what minimum to set, etc?
Jan 15 21:11:40 <Ashiren> target newest sdk
Jan 15 21:12:02 <Ashiren> recommended minsdk is kitkat (19)
Jan 15 21:13:17 <YouCallItFar> thanks Ashiren
Jan 15 21:14:53 <Ashiren> although personally i would be glad if i could use minsdk 21 at work
Jan 15 21:15:09 <Ashiren> quite a change between 4.4 and 5.0 though
Jan 15 21:21:37 <purplex88> If I need to call findViewById() inside AsyncTask class should pass it Activity object?
Jan 15 21:22:15 <purplex88> From Activity I can get context as well.
Jan 15 21:22:37 <purplex88> Just not sure if it is good idea to pass Activities around.
Jan 15 21:23:56 <Dagmar> Offhand it sounds like you'd be better off passing it a reference to the view itself
Jan 15 21:24:21 <Dagmar> ...but changing the UI directly in a background task makes the hair crawl
Jan 15 21:26:02 <YouCallItFar> i do some crazy stuff like that too.  ill have to look up what it is as i get my app back into shape.  but basically changing ui / fetching ui state / etc from ndk isnt hugely supported
Jan 15 21:26:26 <YouCallItFar> not helped by fact that ndk code not usually running on ui thread
Jan 15 21:26:30 <purplex88> Dagmar: Would you rather prefer to call a method like UpdateUI in MainActivity class instead?
Jan 15 21:28:40 <Dagmar> Frankly I'd rather let the asynctask complete and pass whatever information is necessary back out to the main activity
Jan 15 21:29:11 <purplex88> If I had more than one findViewById() calls then I'd need to pass each View in constructor.
Jan 15 21:29:23 <Dagmar> Sometimes I use an interface, and sometimes I store thigns in filthy filthy static values
Jan 15 21:30:13 <Dagmar> It seems like by doing things like that in a background task you're running the risk of possibly two things messing with the same view at the same time
Jan 15 21:32:45 <Dagmar> IIRC they have some protected methods to avoid that risk
Jan 15 21:35:44 <YouCallItFar> im usally calling runOnUiThread() to change UI stuff
Jan 15 21:49:48 <atbe> hey peeps, is there anything special I need to do to initialize a WebView inside of a PopupLayout? I'm getting a null pointer exception when trying to use the webview
Jan 15 21:50:00 <atbe>                 WebView labelWebView = (WebView) view.findViewById(R.id.food_item_label_webview);
Jan 15 21:50:00 <atbe>                 int position = vh.getAdapterPosition();
Jan 15 21:50:02 <atbe>                 labelWebView.loadData(mFoodItemArray.get(position).getNutrition_html(),
Jan 15 21:50:02 <atbe>                         "text/html; charset=UTF-8", null);
Jan 15 21:51:40 <atbe> The webview is defined in a layout file that is only inflated when the user presses a button
Jan 15 21:58:22 <Thorbear> atbe: There is nothing special you need to do to initialize it, at least not something that would make it "not null" when using findViewById(). But you're saying that it is only inflated on user interaction, is the layout inflated into the variable named 'view' ?
Jan 15 21:58:41 <atbe> Thorbear I figured it out, seemed to be an issue with the parents I was using to inflate
Jan 15 21:58:51 <Thorbear> I see
Jan 15 22:09:50 <atbe> Has anyone had an issue with webviews appearing like this? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79887194/2017_01_15_17_01_26.mp4
Jan 15 22:10:19 <atbe> that little square in the center
Jan 15 22:10:25 <YouCallItFar> ugg @ atof
Jan 15 22:10:29 <YouCallItFar> doesnt matter what platform i use
Jan 15 22:10:54 <Dagmar> You know that's a part of the _C_ library, right?
Jan 15 22:11:06 <Dagmar> You've really got to break something fundamental for it to fail.
Jan 15 22:11:40 <YouCallItFar> search atof android and find lot of people with same problem
Jan 15 22:12:08 <YouCallItFar> my app worked fine before.  but i upgraded ndk and sdk.  now atof ruining me
Jan 15 22:17:36 <thomedy> okay i have a huge question
Jan 15 22:17:48 <thomedy> i really dont want to write my apps in multiple languages if i dont have to
Jan 15 22:18:19 <thomedy> can i for example write everything in java or c++ and run an interface in objective c or java for android and apple
Jan 15 22:18:51 <thomedy> or am i writing everything in every language i have so much code to write im trying to keep my load down
Jan 15 22:19:55 <YouCallItFar> i write most my multiplatform app in c++-14 but you cant avoid some significant java code on android and objc code on ios
Jan 15 22:21:06 <YouCallItFar> ios is a bit more conducive to this approach, mainly because objc++ is superset of c++
Jan 15 22:23:03 <thomedy> im reading about xmlvm right now but i have to write bit level work
Jan 15 22:23:10 <thomedy> so i need to know more about it
Jan 15 22:23:27 <thomedy> i need access to signal processing and bit level compression
Jan 15 22:25:38 <atbe> where is the correct assets folder for android>
Jan 15 22:25:59 <atbe> As in, where should we put the assets folder so it is reachable by getAssets
Jan 15 22:26:46 <Dagmar> Right under main/
Jan 15 22:27:06 <atbe> thanks Dagmar
Jan 15 23:04:49 <noahmg123> How can I stop intelliJ from highlighting all the matches of the current symbol my cursor is on?
Jan 15 23:09:03 <TacticalJoke> Press Esc.
Jan 15 23:09:26 <TacticalJoke> Oh, you mean permanently?  There's a setting for it, IIRC.
Jan 15 23:11:37 <TacticalJoke> Bring up settings (Ctrl+Alt+S) and search for "highlight".  I think it's "Highlight usages of element at caret" under 'General'.
Jan 15 23:28:58 <netzapper> hey, so my usb otg stopped working on my phone for one particular device... and I'm trying to find out if there's an equivalent of, like, udev rules that could have gotten screwed up or something?
Jan 15 23:34:11 <notten> can anyone tell me if i can have a launcher widget with webkit inside it?
Jan 15 23:44:50 <g00s> netzapper please read topic
Jan 15 23:45:58 <netzapper> g00s, okay, so I fail to see whether the question "does Android have an equivalent of udev?" fails to fall under the topic of android development. I don't want help with my problem, I'm not asking for support, I'm asking "does this technical subsystem exist?"
Jan 15 23:46:16 <g00s> netzapper please read topic
Jan 15 23:46:31 <netzapper> g00s, please remove stick from anus.
Jan 15 23:46:52 <bankai_> android APP development
Jan 15 23:47:04 * g00s feeds stick to netzapper 
Jan 15 23:48:13 <treeman4> read topic
Jan 15 23:48:14 <netzapper> well, thanks for nothing. I'm sorry for disrupting the spirited discussion of android application development by asking about the android environment. I can see now the ways in which I've harmed your community.
Jan 15 23:48:33 <treeman4> thank you for your consideration.
Jan 15 23:49:23 <netzapper> oh absolutely. I understand that mere app developers can't possibly know about the environment. If it's not in the JavaDocs, it's clearly not something I can learn here.
Jan 15 23:50:17 <g00s> lulz
Jan 15 23:50:53 <Dagmar> I'm certain the word "whine" isn't in the /topic.
Jan 15 23:57:13 <g00s> "Will Mark Zuckerberg Be Our Next President?" oh god no, look what we started
Jan 15 23:58:17 <g00s> a lot of people seem to like this https://github.com/google/hover
Jan 15 23:58:19 <bankai_> sounds like click bait
Jan 15 23:59:30 <g00s> but i'm not quite sure what this library does ...
Jan 15 23:59:59 <Dagmar> Same here
Jan 16 00:00:16 <bankai_> it's a floating menu for quick tasks, isn' tit?
Jan 16 00:00:22 <Dagmar> The screenshots don't really highlight it very well
Jan 16 00:00:28 <g00s> i guess i don't see how this is different than showing a transparent activity with some stuff in it
Jan 16 00:00:36 <g00s> Dagmar yeah
Jan 16 00:00:54 <Dagmar> Looks like a tab manager with round labels to me
Jan 16 00:00:57 <g00s> the screenshots don't look very android-dy to me
Jan 16 00:53:29 <adq> lol
Jan 16 00:55:23 <adq> <g00s> but i'm not quite sure what this library does ... << it's like an anti-bottomnavigation
Jan 16 00:55:32 <adq> i don't get the hype too
Jan 16 00:56:26 <adq> iirc i read on reddit it might come from Nest, due to some copyright in some files explaining why they state: "This is not an official Google product" under the google account of github... make no sense
Jan 16 00:57:01 <adq> it's like a giant popupwindow
Jan 16 00:57:08 <adq> overdraw must be horrible
Jan 16 00:57:21 <adq> they don't even have fancy animation
Jan 16 01:00:31 <g00s> adq when i first saw it, i was like 'meh / whatevs' but it kept getting upvoted, so i came back ... trying to figure out if i just wasn't 'getting it'
Jan 16 01:00:50 <g00s> see groups can make you crazy
Jan 16 01:00:56 <adq> :)
Jan 16 01:02:06 <bankai_> you invest way too much time into reddit
Jan 16 01:07:03 <Dagmar> I still fail to see how it's very different from tabs, other than being round
Jan 16 01:07:21 <Dagmar> Maybe they just weren't being very inventive for teh demo
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