**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 26 03:00:02 2017 Jan 26 03:00:17 rotation changes in android :D http://digg.com/video/straight-pole-curved-hole Jan 26 03:02:34 g00s: That's a great analogy. Jan 26 03:03:33 I can't see the analogy Jan 26 03:04:30 Am I stupid? Jan 26 03:06:17 Melatonina: g00s's Android analogies are the result of years of pain. Jan 26 03:07:23 "A straight pole in the butt hole" would summarize that better, then Jan 26 03:09:20 so you're coding along, following what other android devs and following within their tracks http://digg.com/video/skier-skis-off-cliff Jan 26 03:14:47 g00s: haha Jan 26 03:15:27 TacticalJoke: Melatonina thank you; it is working now; i put the listner and task run code in the activityoncreate method instead :p Jan 26 03:15:33 TacticalJoke hee kinda did a rotation change in mid air Jan 26 03:18:13 https://gfycat.com/CookedGleamingBlacklab Opinions on the design? Jan 26 03:19:52 ReScO: It looks nice, but calling that switch "Search" seems weird to me. Jan 26 03:20:06 Suggestions for it? Jan 26 03:20:45 Not really sure what to call it otherwise Jan 26 03:22:17 "Search enabled" Jan 26 03:22:45 "Search is strange" because it's a verb too, not a feature Jan 26 03:22:47 I think a switch suggests a boolean term such as "Ready to play". But UIs usually use a "Search" button here (with a "Cancel" button which appears thereafter). Jan 26 03:23:02 ReScO maybe 'scan'? Jan 26 03:23:14 "Automatic search" is not a verb, for example Jan 26 03:23:30 TacticalJoke, Ready to Play is one step further :P Jan 26 03:23:52 Search for Players ? Jan 26 03:23:58 ReScO: also, is that a setting? Jan 26 03:24:26 sort of Jan 26 03:24:29 Long running process Jan 26 03:24:52 And the app can run in the background Jan 26 03:25:49 I would use call that activity "Game Search" and the setting would be named "Enabled" Jan 26 03:26:14 It's actually searching for players, not games :P Jan 26 03:26:16 or "Automatic Game Search" Jan 26 03:26:22 ah ok Jan 26 03:26:23 So, Player Search and Enabled? Jan 26 03:26:40 Something like that Jan 26 03:26:42 yes Jan 26 03:27:03 Haha thanks guys :) Jan 26 03:27:18 I'm not enough into games to understand if "->Player<- Search" is the better choice but that's what I meant Jan 26 03:27:50 How would a gamer call "prospective game mates"? Jan 26 03:29:48 ReScO: I would also change the text when the switch is enabled, telling to tap it to disable the automatic search Jan 26 03:30:26 This UI would be appropriate if the search would not end as soon as a game or player is found Jan 26 03:30:46 in that case it would be a misuse of a toggle switch, IMO Jan 26 03:31:25 I would use a bigger and otherwise shaped toggle button Jan 26 03:32:51 FWIW, I think a switch is wrong here. Searching for an opponent is an action, not a togglable option. Jan 26 03:33:01 that's what I meant Jan 26 03:33:44 if the search run indeterminately, I would use a switch. If it's an action that can be interrupted I would use a toggle button or something like that Jan 26 03:35:16 I guess ReScO was not that interested in these "subtleties" Jan 26 03:36:50 Still here Jan 26 03:36:51 ReScO: having a game idea doesn't excuse you from reading a good UX book Jan 26 03:37:20 So a toggle button? Jan 26 03:37:50 If that's a one time thing ("find me a player to play with and then play"), yes Jan 26 03:38:11 Hmm. Jan 26 03:38:13 I don't know how your game works, so I can't tell Jan 26 03:38:24 It's not really a game, more of a tool Jan 26 03:38:29 for another game :P Jan 26 03:38:57 So this application only does this kind of search? Jan 26 03:38:57 Basically, it returns a list of 5 usernames if it can find 5 people to match up with Jan 26 03:39:25 The you should redesign the whole thing Jan 26 03:39:33 And then it notifies those five people, and asks if they're ready in the next screen, after that the usernames are shown Jan 26 03:39:52 There will be more stuff, but this is one of the functions. Jan 26 03:40:00 ok then a toggle is inappropriate Jan 26 03:40:14 Ah okay Jan 26 03:40:25 If there are no "search parameters" the search should start right away Jan 26 03:40:39 The should only be a button to stop it Jan 26 03:40:51 (and maybe restart it) Jan 26 03:41:09 Well, i don't want it to start searching as soon as it lands on that fragment. Jan 26 03:41:24 A user should start it. Jan 26 03:42:14 Then use a big "Start" button which becomes "Stop" when the search is running Jan 26 03:42:24 It's what I told you earlier Jan 26 03:42:31 Wouldn't that break the design a bit? Jan 26 03:42:46 that would break you atrocious design, yes Jan 26 03:42:56 :( Jan 26 03:43:01 :) Jan 26 03:43:21 Usually my designs are a ton worse. Jan 26 03:43:24 It's not atrocious. That's just being rude. Jan 26 03:43:51 I was joking, as usual Jan 26 03:44:07 ReScO: well, then you are improving Jan 26 03:44:41 ReScO: you could transform this weakness in a strength reading some book or guide on the subject Jan 26 03:44:55 I've been reading material.io Jan 26 03:45:16 That is helpful but it's not necessarily enough Jan 26 03:45:37 Which books/guides do you suggest? Jan 26 03:45:49 I like the design. Jan 26 03:46:04 And for now, what's a better alternative to the switch? Jan 26 03:46:12 TacticalJoke: you just told that the toggle switch was inappropriate too Jan 26 03:46:13 A toggle button is the same thing... Jan 26 03:46:27 Melatonina: So? I like it overall. Jan 26 03:46:32 So, that leaves a regular button. Jan 26 03:46:36 ReScO: Then use a big "Start" button which becomes "Stop" when the search is running Jan 26 03:46:46 I wrote it few lines above Jan 26 03:46:51 Melatonina, oh god that's atrocious. Jan 26 03:47:19 Big button right smack in the middle of a minimalistic design, that won't really fit in won't it? Jan 26 03:47:24 "big" is not mandatory Jan 26 03:47:44 I was just saying. You can use the size that you feel is appropriate Jan 26 03:48:33 Hmpf, now i'm going to have to see how a button would look good in it Jan 26 03:48:39 might put it at the bottom Jan 26 03:48:55 Would two buttons work? Jan 26 03:49:03 Start/Stop? Jan 26 03:49:08 Stop on the left, Start on the Right Jan 26 03:49:14 I would like just one button which changes Jan 26 03:49:20 Hmm. Jan 26 03:49:21 but that's up to you Jan 26 03:49:53 like in video players, you don't see a play and a pause button because they are mutually exclusive Jan 26 03:53:35 ReScO: "design" is about purely esthetical details (color, sizes, etc.) and more "symbolic" details. When I said your design is atrocious I didn't mean the first part (I don't have an opinion on that), I mean the second part: how you make the functionality readable to the user. TacticalJoke basically meant the same: he likes the esthetical appearance overall but had the same problem with the switch Jan 26 03:54:37 Ahh. Jan 26 04:05:57 Hm, anybody have a pointer to a favorite "don't do it that way, do it THIS way" for android code? Jan 26 04:08:43 Melatonina, TacticalJoke, https://gfycat.com/AshamedRevolvingIndianskimmer Jan 26 04:08:51 Now with a button :) Jan 26 04:09:36 puff: I had some links about a "straight pole in your butt hole" and about a skier who felt of a cliff. Do you want me to fetch them? Jan 26 04:10:22 ReScO: I could not find the button Jan 26 04:10:28 Bottom right Jan 26 04:10:32 Melatonina: Thanks, but no thanks. Jan 26 04:10:44 ReScO: I would place it just under the text, centered Jan 26 04:12:22 ReScO: and I would change the text, reflecting the current function of the button Jan 26 04:15:24 Melatonina, https://imgur.com/a/2wb6k Jan 26 04:16:31 See? Read the text and look for the "Start" button now Jan 26 04:16:53 Easier to spot, yeah. Jan 26 04:16:55 I would center the progress animation and move the "Searching etc." down Jan 26 04:17:22 ReScO: look at the image you posted! Where is the "Start" button there? Jan 26 04:17:45 There is a "Stop" button now Jan 26 04:17:58 and the text still says "Tap on the Start button" Jan 26 04:18:20 Should put one of those TextSwitcher things in that fades it in and out Jan 26 04:18:31 up to you Jan 26 04:18:42 just update the text Jan 26 04:21:01 I would also not block the use to check for updates at startup. As a user, I don't care much about updates. I'd like it to go to the point (the search) and pop up a dialog if there are updates Jan 26 04:24:31 I know, there's a reason though, i want it to update as soon as possible, users tend to postpone updates. Jan 26 04:24:57 https://imgur.com/a/5hlXx Edited the text, moved some stuff Jan 26 04:25:56 ReScO: I like it much better. I would work on the spacing. Jan 26 04:27:20 ReScO: center the progress animation. The rest of the of the space could be divided in two equal parts, above and below. The button and the bottom text could be vertically centered in those spaces Jan 26 04:28:18 So you'd say that i should remove that text? Jan 26 04:28:56 Because the control is obvious with the title in the Toolbar (Player Search), and the button describes what it does (Start or Stop the search) Jan 26 04:29:22 Only point is, how do i communicate it notifies the user... Jan 26 04:29:28 Yeah, you could even remove the bottom text. I agree Jan 26 04:29:37 One of those first start tutorial/guide thingies? Jan 26 04:29:48 No, not the bottom text, the description at the top Jan 26 04:30:07 If you update it, the text is nice to me. Jan 26 04:30:48 If you don't care about updating it, I'd rather not look at a non-sense text Jan 26 04:32:30 Quite hard to get it right as the two texts are of a different size, button jumps around Jan 26 04:33:47 Just use two TextView and hide one when you show the other Jan 26 04:33:58 don't use GONE Jan 26 04:34:11 That way you'll always use the maximum space needed Jan 26 04:34:35 Or just set a fixed height :P Jan 26 04:35:07 my solution is more general, as you don't need to guess a good height Jan 26 04:36:44 which may reveal to be not so good on some devices Jan 26 04:37:29 Any other way to not have to include the description? Jan 26 04:39:53 Just don't include it. The activity title may be enough, if properly chosen Jan 26 05:00:15 ReScO: you are welcome Jan 26 05:00:31 Still struggling haha, but thanks for the help man Jan 26 05:00:55 I'm gonna go to sleep, it's 6am Jan 26 05:15:36 Calendar is API 24. To get the current date, did you have to convert the timeInMilliSec to a date and time, or is there an easier way? Jan 26 05:21:39 nvm found the date class with deprecated methods Jan 26 05:25:33 Hm, I have two different android apps. Right now I run android studio, it defaults to opening the one app. Then I use File/Open to open the other project and select "in a separate project". Is this the right way to do this, or is there a better way? Jan 26 05:26:50 Related question, Both apps also use a jar file that's in yet a third project. I have the git clone for that project, how do I add it to Android Studio or to the other two projects, so that when something in project A calls a method in the lib project, Android Studio can take me right to that code? Jan 26 06:29:43 hm, wonder if this is any good. not aware of any other books that cover this, but i'm guessing there are http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780994347077.do Jan 26 06:37:30 a new AS 2.3 beta Jan 26 06:37:53 g00s: ! Jan 26 06:37:59 hey thepoosh ... Jan 26 06:38:14 Hello all Jan 26 06:38:26 thepoosh , is that doc you linked to changing in realtime or something, i could swear things are changing Jan 26 06:38:42 yeah, I'm still editing Jan 26 06:38:50 it was a rough draft Jan 26 06:38:55 and I'm working on it Jan 26 06:39:02 oh ok Jan 26 06:40:21 did you get a chance to look? Jan 26 06:41:15 yeah ... i think some things you fixed though Jan 26 06:43:01 thepoosh dunno, you may want to break glide down into roles, (lead, developer, release manager, etc) Jan 26 06:43:13 its all kinda jumbled together Jan 26 06:43:24 hmm Jan 26 06:43:45 and * Familiar with x, y, z ... dunno if thats the right place for that either, maybe a separate skills section of the resume Jan 26 06:44:22 anyone know how to debug what is causing my activity to Pause/Resume? like is there a tool or way I can debug what I'm causing to do that? Jan 26 06:44:44 callstack doesn't help much when I set a breakpoint in onPause :/ Jan 26 06:45:07 pause is called when something is taking focus away from you actiivty such as a dialog Jan 26 06:45:34 right, odd thing is is that it's occurring from a button press, which isn't launching any fragment/activity/dialog Jan 26 06:45:43 is there a tool I can use to see what in the chain caused it? Jan 26 06:46:16 can you share code of what's happening? Jan 26 06:46:25 is this a result of user action? Jan 26 06:46:28 * raoul11 thepooshes thepoosh Jan 26 06:46:38 raoul11: ! Jan 26 06:46:41 id prefer not to, and yeah its result of a user action Jan 26 06:46:45 "Hugo Barra is joining Facebook to lead VR team " lol Jan 26 06:46:50 like ideally with most problems you can set a breakpoint to see how it's calling it Jan 26 06:46:59 but since it's a lifecycle method it's a bit difficult to find what is calling it Jan 26 06:47:17 it doesn't work that way in lifecycle events Jan 26 06:47:28 they are called from the parent Jan 26 06:47:34 thepoosh http://i.imgur.com/iqgUCU8.png Jan 26 06:47:38 u better be there Jan 26 06:47:47 only thing I can think of is that I'm creating a PendingIntent, but I'm not starting it or anything Jan 26 06:47:50 raoul11: you're going? Jan 26 06:47:58 or am gonna give u back to the pallies Jan 26 06:48:00 yes Jan 26 06:48:08 boomber: nobody is gonna help you like this Jan 26 06:48:09 i iz confirmado Jan 26 06:48:19 raoul11: I hope to get there for the 2nd half Jan 26 06:48:41 is there any limit of maximum characters that we can set in a textview? Jan 26 06:48:41 thepoosh: thats fine, I wasn't hoping for someone to solve my bug for me, was just wondering if there was a nice tool to help debug my issue Jan 26 06:48:50 logs Jan 26 06:48:52 it better not be helloWordish thepoosh Jan 26 06:49:05 dunno, didn't go last year Jan 26 06:49:16 sub_zero yes, don't remember, maybe 16k or something Jan 26 06:49:21 raoul11: if you join the FB group you might get more info Jan 26 06:49:34 ok g00s thanks Jan 26 06:49:35 i hz no FB ): Jan 26 06:49:43 irc4lyfe yo Jan 26 06:49:44 good for you raoul11 ! Jan 26 06:49:54 fb is crap Jan 26 06:49:57 yep Jan 26 06:50:19 * raoul11 been ircing since 95 /: Jan 26 06:50:20 $10 says zuck runs for prez Jan 26 06:50:35 raoul11: open a fake account just for that Jan 26 06:50:38 with kekerica nowdays he might win Jan 26 06:50:50 raoul11 Jan 26 06:50:57 i got 3 fake fb accounts iv made for their silly integration with my android apps Jan 26 06:51:06 each got 1 friend Jan 26 06:51:15 which is the other's fake account Jan 26 06:51:18 is kekerica a play on kakistocracy ? Jan 26 06:51:32 actually a play on lolstralia Jan 26 06:51:45 lol Jan 26 06:51:59 raoull1 i will complain about your fake accounts! Jan 26 06:52:00 kak·is·toc·ra·cies. Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. Jan 26 06:52:13 thepoosh: i dont have a laptop to bring for the hackhaton Jan 26 06:52:13 hehehe Jan 26 06:52:22 g00s wow Jan 26 06:52:36 raoul11: you suck Jan 26 06:52:46 sub_zero: deeeeew eeeet, they will never stop me from integrating their shitty sdk on my apps! Jan 26 06:53:06 shitty sdk with shittier documentation for the price of one Jan 26 06:53:23 that we will see,let the process begin Jan 26 06:53:38 thepoosh, am a tower PC masterace, dont have time for those shitty macbooks with an even shittier AS Jan 26 06:54:06 i got like 2 old macbooks here who can barely run notepad++ Jan 26 06:54:06 AS for mac is better than for windows Jan 26 06:54:17 #just_saying Jan 26 06:54:18 thepoosh u shud have seen the AS bug i had yday Jan 26 06:54:19 thepoosh really? java has been dicey on mac Jan 26 06:54:33 ever since apple was like fu it, you take it oracle Jan 26 06:55:06 this is how I experience working on a Win desktop at home and a macbook pro at work Jan 26 06:55:14 there are many shitty things on mac Jan 26 06:55:15 thepoosh: b4: http://i.imgur.com/0QEX75j.png | after: http://i.imgur.com/FOxB1Qr.png Jan 26 06:55:29 and I would probably prefer using a linux distro instead Jan 26 06:55:46 linux with openbox gui ftw Jan 26 06:56:03 raoul11: same view? Jan 26 06:56:10 and the lines made the difference? Jan 26 06:56:10 same same Jan 26 06:56:15 yep Jan 26 06:56:18 :S Jan 26 06:56:18 ctrl alt l fixed it Jan 26 06:56:36 not a clean, rebuild, black magic, nothing Jan 26 06:56:40 cmd + l Jan 26 06:56:42 just rearranged the lines Jan 26 06:56:43 yeah Jan 26 06:57:08 showed that to adq, fueled his h8 towards AS even more Jan 26 06:57:18 thepoosh know of any other books like this http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780994347077.do Jan 26 06:57:20 HA Jan 26 06:57:39 g00s: I'll ask my BI friends Jan 26 06:57:56 AS + gradle is becoming a slow and bloated pile, seems teh eventual destiny for all java crap Jan 26 06:58:26 somebody needs to rewrite gradle in go or something Jan 26 06:58:30 where is pfn to talk about his build machine Jan 26 06:58:38 who would dare g00s Jan 26 06:58:40 also, facebook claims BUCK is good Jan 26 06:59:03 yeah, nothing mere mortals use scales for them Jan 26 06:59:21 'move fast and break stuff' remember Jan 26 06:59:35 that sounds... familiar Jan 26 06:59:58 its their culture slogan Jan 26 07:00:50 thepoosh at the time, there was hardly any info on buck at all. has that changed ? Jan 26 07:00:56 i mean like 1-2 years ago Jan 26 07:01:23 it wasn't much better than 'here's this thing, look at the sources to figure it out' Jan 26 07:01:28 i read about it a few times Jan 26 07:01:38 but didn't put in the time to learn about it Jan 26 07:01:52 https://buckbuild.com/ Jan 26 07:02:04 i wonder if gradle experimental stuff will be done by i/o 2017 Jan 26 07:13:19 i must have this https://www.sunfrog.com/The-Dog-Lives-NavyBlue.html Jan 26 07:37:03 how do I animation a button to slide in from the bottom and push items above it as it's sliding? Jan 26 07:37:21 right now I have it sliding in, but the items above it in the linearlayout move instantly as the button first starts sliding into view Jan 26 07:38:24 boomber: coordinatedlayout Jan 26 07:38:52 hm Jan 26 07:39:05 the problem is is that the thing it's pushing up is a bottom sheet which is already in its own coordinator layout Jan 26 07:39:23 if they were in the same coordinatorlayout the button couldn't slide below it and push it up.... if that makes sense Jan 26 07:39:49 will coordinatorlayout let me push up a bottom sheet? Jan 26 07:41:38 errr Jan 26 07:42:08 right now I'm just using an animation to slide a button into view Jan 26 07:42:16 can I just apply that same animation to the item above it in the layout? Jan 26 07:55:34 why does this drawable h8s my vectordrawable Jan 26 07:57:34 new youtube UI https://i.imgur.com/Y9zqPHW.jpg Jan 26 08:24:02 Hi all, is it possible to keep a TCP connection (with a service maybe) open, even if your app is killed? Jan 26 08:24:25 *tcp socket Jan 26 10:57:56 Hello guys ! Jan 26 10:58:24 I have been developing an Android Library module and putting it on a remote private maven repo (using artifactory) Jan 26 10:58:53 I can put it as a dependency now on other Android projects Jan 26 10:59:17 but I keep getting the same error : "The following classes could not be found: " Jan 26 10:59:31 Does anyone have an idea ? Jan 26 11:18:18 well. Jan 26 11:18:20 Read the missing classes. Jan 26 11:18:26 Figure out why they're missing. Jan 26 11:18:39 The error is pretty clear about what's wrong and your information pretty sparse to let us figure out. Jan 26 14:15:15 ./וןא Jan 26 14:23:00 Material Design is pretty hard Jan 26 14:30:13 is it? Jan 26 14:32:41 We have an app that requires fresh data to be downloaded Everytime app is launched. What is the best way to go about this? Create a hash for data content and check to see if new data is available? (To avoid downloading all data again) Jan 26 14:33:41 is this http? could be etags Jan 26 14:34:02 <_0xbadc0de> hello Jan 26 14:36:22 <_0xbadc0de> I want to generate a AES key store it in AndroidKeyStore Jan 26 14:36:35 <_0xbadc0de> and then load it each time I need it to encrypt\decrypt stuff Jan 26 14:36:36 <_0xbadc0de> now Jan 26 14:37:19 <_0xbadc0de> I can do this with API23+ by using KeyGenerator class + KeyGenparameterSpec Jan 26 14:37:33 <_0xbadc0de> however KeyGenParameterSpec is NA on SDK < 23 Jan 26 14:37:47 <_0xbadc0de> so how can i do this for API < 23 ? Jan 26 14:38:16 <_0xbadc0de> If I just use KeyGenerator I won't be able to tell my KeyStore Alias Jan 26 14:38:46 <_0xbadc0de> so I cant recover the cryptographic key usability later on using keystore.getKey() Jan 26 14:38:58 <_0xbadc0de> help? Jan 26 14:39:19 anyone got this while tryna start an emulator yet...? Jan 26 14:39:19 ERROR: resizing partition e2fsck failed with exit code 9 Jan 26 14:49:28 Zharf, trying to work out how to show a "waiting" screen to users, with a button to start/stop Jan 26 14:49:39 But I keep fiddling with it Jan 26 14:49:42 _0xbadc0de, you have to deal with different api version, keystore and its method calls evolved between few version, especially about creating keypair Jan 26 14:49:57 <_0xbadc0de> No Jan 26 14:50:02 <_0xbadc0de> there is no Keypair Jan 26 14:50:04 <_0xbadc0de> its AES Jan 26 14:50:15 _0xbadc0de, quickly i can tell you to use KeyPairGeneratorSpec.Builder keyPairGeneratorSpecBuilder < on API 23, and use KeyGenParameterSpec.Builder keyGenParameterSpecBuilder on api >= 23 Jan 26 14:50:16 <_0xbadc0de> I don't want a private\public key pair Jan 26 14:50:18 there is Jan 26 14:50:22 just read the documentations Jan 26 14:50:29 you will find many tutorials online too Jan 26 14:51:11 <_0xbadc0de> KeyPairGenerator, KeyPairGeneratorSpec is for generating assymetric key information Jan 26 14:51:16 <_0xbadc0de> its not fit for AES Jan 26 14:51:24 <_0xbadc0de> more over it wont even work Jan 26 14:51:49 <_0xbadc0de> In fact they even generate a pair Certificate\privatekey Jan 26 14:51:51 oh right, but same thing, just use the corresponding call for the corresponding api version Jan 26 14:51:58 <_0xbadc0de> There is none Jan 26 14:52:03 ... good luck Jan 26 14:52:08 <_0xbadc0de> At least I can't find it Jan 26 14:52:31 (i just copy/pasted an example to show you how it differs, but agreed it was to generate rsa key, not symetric key) Jan 26 14:52:31 BouncyCastle might be an idea Jan 26 14:52:34 <_0xbadc0de> The only way to specify an alias (so to put\retrieve from store) Jan 26 14:52:51 <_0xbadc0de> is by using an AlgorithmSpec Jan 26 14:52:52 you have to many problems you're fighting at same time, calm down Jan 26 14:53:21 <_0xbadc0de> There is no AlgorithmSpec for sdk < 23 for AES Jan 26 14:53:33 <_0xbadc0de> that is the only problem Jan 26 14:53:35 yeah but there is something else Jan 26 14:53:40 ada - should we use hash to compare data to be downloaded or not in an app that requires updated data to be downloaded Jan 26 14:53:41 i cannot look at it right now Jan 26 14:54:09 yay or nay https://www.novoda.com/blog/downloading-apps-is-emojinal-a-simple-hack-to-get-more-downloads/ Jan 26 14:54:14 you should use a hash to check for data integrity monsterco, indeed Jan 26 14:54:28 if you do'nt care about security, md5 will be enough Jan 26 14:54:34 otherwise go sha1, or better sha2 Jan 26 14:54:40 <_0xbadc0de> There is not Jan 26 14:55:12 there is not != you don't find it Jan 26 14:55:14 <_0xbadc0de> The only thing I have seen is KeyGen for generating AES keys but those won't become stored in AndroidKeyStore Jan 26 14:55:48 <_0xbadc0de> so keymaterial is exposed into aplication virtual address space Jan 26 14:55:55 ada - my concern is not security but completeness of data at this instance. User has 100 new items in bin but doesn't show in app. Should we redo a load all without knowing if they were downloaded or should we create a hash and compare if new data is avail? Jan 26 14:56:00 it's adq Jan 26 14:56:24 <_0xbadc0de> monsterco Jan 26 14:56:26 <_0xbadc0de> use crc32 Jan 26 14:56:30 -_- Jan 26 14:56:35 <_0xbadc0de> its fast and its fit for what you need Jan 26 14:56:57 <_0xbadc0de> crc32 is the most uniformly distributed hashing function Jan 26 14:57:21 monsterco: There are many ways. You could also just store a last updated timestamp and query the server for new items since Jan 26 14:57:27 don't load all if 99 items are not missing obviously Jan 26 14:57:33 that would be a pure waste Jan 26 14:58:56 <_0xbadc0de> so adq you are fucking retard thats what you are trying to...say Jan 26 14:58:57 <_0xbadc0de> right? Jan 26 14:59:36 ohnoez. Jan 26 14:59:37 _0xbadc0de: Please watch your language Jan 26 15:01:43 good luck Jan 26 15:02:28 BouncyCastle is a good crypto library for Java. Jan 26 15:02:44 yeah but bouncycastle was highly need in the early day of android Jan 26 15:02:55 now not really anymore, except maybe for specific algo not available Jan 26 15:03:18 depends on the SDK version, doesn't it? Jan 26 15:03:24 also it's an enormous lib Jan 26 15:03:35 Eh. true. Jan 26 15:06:45 everytime I see "ohnoez" I hear Ike's voice from Southpark Jan 26 15:07:23 made me remember the lemmings Jan 26 15:07:50 https://imgur.com/a/nQbgc any suggestions how I can improve this layout? Jan 26 15:08:27 put start/stop text color white but it's so empty for some part Jan 26 15:08:52 that it's hard to "optimize", it's more about feeling the empty space maybe (preferably with not something useless) Jan 26 15:09:18 Yeah, kinda struggling on how to do it tho Jan 26 15:09:33 maybe merge the start and stop, and put it with the center circular stuff somehow Jan 26 15:09:42 so you won't have much empty space, and it will make sense for the user Jan 26 15:10:00 Can't find any examples of apps with similar screens? Jan 26 15:10:07 -? Jan 26 15:10:08 i did something similar let me find it Jan 26 15:10:28 i'm gonna pm you the link tho Jan 26 15:10:39 Okidokie Jan 26 15:18:07 Hmm.. Jan 26 15:18:45 http://gfycat.com/essentialweakflicker Jan 26 15:20:55 If you have pocket casts, their nearby screen is pretty nice. It's similar to what you're doing. Jan 26 15:22:25 I don't, trying to get into podcasts but i can't find the time for them, or any good podcasts for that matter Jan 26 15:44:36 adq, https://gfycat.com/DeadBriskAtlanticsharpnosepuffer Jan 26 15:45:57 maps v2 api on emulator is any indication (slowaf) of realdevices operation? Jan 26 15:47:37 ReScO, much better Jan 26 15:47:42 :D Jan 26 15:47:56 White button looked cheap tho Jan 26 15:48:04 White text on the button* Jan 26 15:48:21 <_0xbadc0de> anyone knows how JCEKS works? Android Key Store will make an effort in storing the keys on HSM Jan 26 15:49:50 <_0xbadc0de> ah so you store the stuff within a file Jan 26 15:50:02 <_0xbadc0de> and you need to supply a pw to decrypt the file on the fly Jan 26 15:50:07 <_0xbadc0de> so very stupid Jan 26 15:57:59 Hello, how can I know is auto-implemented on a component ? For Example : When I use a ListView, i dont need to manually implement a scrollView, its automatically managed. What about TableLayout ? Jan 26 15:58:22 how can I know if a scrollView* Jan 26 16:12:16 hey guys, im working on an app for an store, they need to store just a few values from the user and purchases history, is OK to use localstorage or recommend me to use sqlite? Jan 26 16:13:25 and of course, store if the user already registered and if already filled the personal info :) Jan 26 16:14:45 I recently installed android studio and when I create a new project I get two gradle errors, failed to resolve "junit:junit:4.12" and the same with "com.android.support.test.espresso:espresso-core:2.0" Jan 26 16:15:01 if I just remove that stuff from gradle then I can run just fine, it connects to the emulator and everything Jan 26 16:15:13 so it's not a huge issue but any idea what I've done wrong to get into this state? Jan 26 16:17:13 although I'm not entirely sure this is the right channel Jan 26 16:18:02 samsagaz_ you can store those on sharedprefs Jan 26 16:18:23 cd raoul11 ok, will search abt it. thanks Jan 26 16:18:26 samsagaz_: If by "localstorage" you mean either shared preferences or manually writing to a file stored in a filesystem, then they both have the same security (or lack thereof) as SQLite. SQLite is preferred if you have data that fits into a table, purchase history might fit well here, while a saved username might fit better in shared preferences. Jan 26 16:18:27 as long as u dont store sensitive information, like CC, you should be fine Jan 26 16:18:42 i see, you know if this works with ios too? Jan 26 16:20:23 you should ask on ios channels how they store stuff locally Jan 26 16:21:28 samsagaz_: Are you perhaps talking about locally stored data in HTML5? Because otherwise SharedPreferences/SQLite have different interfaces on iOS than they do on Android, since they use different languages. Jan 26 16:21:45 thanks guys Jan 26 16:21:51 will go with sqlite then :) Jan 26 16:32:48 https://hastebin.com/adizuzaguy.java am i doing the right thing at line 82? Jan 26 16:48:03 hello, AdapterViewFlipper or ViewPager for an image carrousel? images are not finite, they can be added using camera Jan 26 16:49:33 Currently I'm using AdapterViewFlipper to refresh SimpleCursorAdapter using it, currently works fine Jan 26 16:49:37 like a filmstrip kind of carousel? Jan 26 16:49:53 if what you’ve got works fine, then I wouldn’t touch it Jan 26 16:55:57 anyone have a list of dev conferences coming up? I know about Chicago Roboto and Droidcon Boston Jan 26 16:56:03 Is it bad design to replace a navigation drawer's contents based on what fragment is displayed at that moment? Jan 26 16:56:13 i would say yes Jan 26 16:56:32 So, what to do if you want to add many things? Jan 26 16:56:36 Just add many things? Jan 26 16:56:41 what is the use case? Jan 26 16:57:05 I am building an app for my gaming clan, but i want to add some extra features to it Jan 26 16:57:33 i mean how is the drawer used Jan 26 16:57:59 Currently, undecided, but i was thinking of using it to display important features and categories of content Jan 26 16:58:14 that’s not what the nav drawer is for Jan 26 16:58:45 important sections of the app, yes Jan 26 16:59:42 but in general, it would be confusing to the user to have that change based on what section of the app you’re in Jan 26 17:00:18 Say i'd have a CSGO category, and in that a strategy guide for like, 10 maps, would i add those 10 maps to the navigation drawer, and the strategy guide thing? Jan 26 17:00:51 no. you’d have a CSGO category, and when they clicked, in the main content area you’d have your strategy guides and stuff Jan 26 17:01:05 So Top Level -> CSGO -> Strategy Guides -> [Map 1, Map 2, ..., Map 10] Jan 26 17:01:54 this app, it’s going to have several games? Jan 26 17:02:03 so CSGO, Civ VI, etc? Jan 26 17:02:27 yep Jan 26 17:03:19 And hopefully in the future also integration with the forum Jan 26 17:03:21 i would have the games be listed in the drawer, and then when you click in the drawer, that brings up the main content view for that game, which would have a section for strategy guides, for thing 1, for thing 2, etc Jan 26 17:03:39 you might put forum access as a top level thing too Jan 26 17:03:51 But doesn't that get messy? Jan 26 17:04:17 Nested collapsible maybe? Jan 26 17:04:24 i wouldn’t do that. Jan 26 17:04:49 i’d just have the top level stuff in the drawer, and then that takes you to the section of the app, where you’d have the content related to that Jan 26 17:05:02 they click, the drawer closes, and the main fragment changes Jan 26 17:05:27 Our app doesn't display any ads from Ad Networks but Google says our apk contains ads. What might be possible reasons? The only thing I can see from the dependencies is that it our apk does contain the play-services-ads lib. Would that be a reason for being flagged as containg ads? Jan 26 17:05:40 probably Jan 26 17:05:45