**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 10 03:00:02 2017 Feb 10 03:18:00 "Arby's Probes Possible Data Breach Affecting 355,000 Credit Cards " ... were those curly fries worth it ?!?! Feb 10 03:34:33 http://arbys.com/our-menu/signature-sandwiches/reuben Feb 10 03:35:07 well i'm glad you posted a link, i was scared to ask what an arby was Feb 10 03:35:49 heh, US fast food... their reuben isn't well known but I love em Feb 10 03:41:19 orbyt_: oh i see the hand tool you're talking about. in Layout Design. unfortunately I'm looking for one in Text Design Feb 10 03:42:10 why do you want this? i don't get it ... Feb 10 03:42:22 i'm thinking more along the lines of the hand tool in Acrobat Feb 10 03:42:59 bankai_: because i often have the right edge of the editor window beyond the edge of my monitor and need to scroll up/down in the text Feb 10 03:43:37 bankai_: working on a 15.6" laptop display. often have to move the window around so I can e.g. read a document on the left while editing Feb 10 03:43:55 don't you have a scroll wheel (or similar)? Feb 10 03:44:07 bankai_: no i have a trackpoint Feb 10 03:44:22 that would fit under the 'or similar' Feb 10 03:44:39 scroll functionality is deliberately disabled because i use middle-click for a lot of other things Feb 10 03:45:01 you're too hard on yourself Feb 10 03:45:07 i don't even know if it supports middle-click scroll toggle under Linux anyway Feb 10 03:45:23 usually, shift+mouse wheel will scroll horizontally Feb 10 03:45:54 omg i just noticed! it does actually scroll. doh! Feb 10 03:46:08 -_-# Feb 10 03:46:12 if i hold middle button and move trackpoint it scrolls! Feb 10 03:46:15 Does AS override some colors from "AppTheme" on a default project template? Feb 10 03:46:17 LOL Feb 10 03:47:01 i don't think so snapfractalpop Feb 10 03:47:08 efloid: which DE do you use? Feb 10 03:47:19 bankai_: KDE Plasma Feb 10 03:48:02 adq: I used the Theme Editor to mess around with some colors, and I can't get back to the original (blue and darkblue primary).. there seems to be some kind of bug with hitting undo Feb 10 03:48:02 btw scroll is not really the same as panning, but i'll take it. Feb 10 03:48:24 adq: any idea how to reset it back to the original settings? Feb 10 03:48:28 some browsers also do not have hand tool extension so i can only scroll, not pan Feb 10 03:52:20 capella i didn't know they had reubens, i like those too. damn wish i didn't know :D Feb 10 03:54:07 yah g00s, my secret stash, only fast source for a hot one without going to a deli ☺️ Feb 10 03:54:27 'reuben with curly fries, plz' Feb 10 03:55:50 ....... so the localbroadcastmanager is working with my brdcastreceiver when onStop() but it doesn't work with onDestroy() ??? when it's swiped away ? Feb 10 03:56:15 is the context still saved in lifecycle in onStop() but not onDestroy() ?? what's this about Feb 10 03:57:15 "what's all this about Eagle rights?!" Feb 10 03:57:43 you voted for hillary didnt yuo Feb 10 03:58:06 and you're asian Feb 10 03:58:26 google developers Feb 10 03:58:39 making things harder and harder for new versions Feb 10 03:58:48 with stupid security mechanisms Feb 10 03:59:07 make sure you use Rxjava guys its awesome Feb 10 03:59:18 paint the world with observables Feb 10 03:59:23 and slide on dildos Feb 10 03:59:27 the only security mechanism we need is a Great Wall between USA and Mexico. Feb 10 03:59:30 just like you're painting the channel with carriage returns? Feb 10 03:59:38 And we'll make them pay for it Feb 10 03:59:59 well its the biggest key after space Feb 10 04:00:30 you voted trump didn't you Feb 10 04:00:38 i certainly did Feb 10 04:00:46 he knows, that was a rhetorical Feb 10 04:03:25 cut the shit you guys, or trump is going to send the feds Feb 10 04:03:32 even if you don' thave oid :) Feb 10 04:03:36 *oil Feb 10 04:03:43 ok Feb 10 04:04:30 capella i hear some in the trump admin are using Confide so they leave no paper trail :D Feb 10 04:04:35 i have olive oil in the pantry, you reckon he's interested in that? Feb 10 04:05:06 snapfractalpop, ah no idea sorry, i always edit styles.xml by hand Feb 10 04:05:10 pretty much everything trump accused hillary of, we know its projection and that he's guilt or will be of the same things Feb 10 04:05:29 bankai_ real olive oil? you know that stuff is rare ... Feb 10 04:05:48 why is it rare? Feb 10 04:05:49 when will anonymous get off their butts and hack his twitter accounts... humm maybe they already have Feb 10 04:05:55 evoo with rosemary on toast Feb 10 04:05:59 Melatonina because most olive oil is fake Feb 10 04:06:16 bankai_ if twitter is in business long enough lol Feb 10 04:06:26 is this /pol/? Feb 10 04:06:42 g00s: we are pretty strict about olive oil here Feb 10 04:06:46 no clue, but for sure ppl are extremely biased, on one side or the other Feb 10 04:07:09 Melatonina where is here ? Feb 10 04:07:16 g00s: Italy Feb 10 04:07:28 Melatonina oh, you guys have huge problems ... Feb 10 04:07:44 if fact, italy has the worst problems with olive oil. unless you know the guy pressing it for you Feb 10 04:07:51 adq: I'm trying out the theme editor for the first time.. it seems like a cool idea, but I'm just monkeying around pushing buttons Feb 10 04:08:05 I always assumed that I could go back with undo.. thought wrong, I guess Feb 10 04:08:12 ahah it's AS Feb 10 04:08:21 should have put this project in version control Feb 10 04:08:23 i can make undo/redo fails Feb 10 04:08:23 oh well Feb 10 04:08:32 it's... let's not start on that Feb 10 04:08:42 I know how to get it back though.. I have an idea Feb 10 04:09:02 I'm going to make a new project, and then diff the xml files Feb 10 04:09:51 that should work, or you could remove everything, except colorPrimary & co Feb 10 04:09:57 and keep the base theme maybe Feb 10 04:10:10 s/base/parent/ Feb 10 04:10:17 adq were we talking about tensorflow and rpi a few days / weeks ago ? Feb 10 04:10:28 tbh, i never use the sample project, so no clue what they put by default too Feb 10 04:10:30 g00s: companies here get busted for selling "virgin" oil labeled as "extra virgin" oil Feb 10 04:10:37 nope with me g00s but you did Feb 10 04:10:47 they release something for internet things Feb 10 04:10:50 released* Feb 10 04:10:53 Melatonina also dilluting it with cheaper oils Feb 10 04:11:28 ppl who knows olive oil would notice Feb 10 04:11:40 here in the south of france, it's also something important and over used Feb 10 04:11:53 (and healthy) Feb 10 04:12:03 yeah the real stuff is healthy Feb 10 04:12:03 g00s: we have problem with oil made with non-Italian olives. But if you buy olive oil you get olive oil here. Feb 10 04:12:48 of course there will always be people trying to sell fake products Feb 10 04:15:04 One of the good thing of EU are regulations and checks about foods Feb 10 04:16:53 Lots of people feared TTIP because EU would have to weaken its regulations and standards Feb 10 05:08:48 is there a way to restart the application after onDestroy() or a way to make the context statically stored like in sharedpreferences in a world readable way perhaps ?? Feb 10 05:10:03 http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/android-dev/ Who's the one doing the logging? Feb 10 05:15:19 shaking all over Feb 10 05:15:53 Application#onDestroy()? Feb 10 05:16:08 yes Feb 10 05:16:43 I'm not sure I'd like to run an application that restarts itself Feb 10 05:17:09 You should state your X problem Feb 10 05:17:37 its a delivery on demand platform so you actually want it to restart itself when you terminate it while you're online Feb 10 05:17:47 it minimizes the online status to notification panel Feb 10 05:17:50 and terminates Feb 10 05:18:20 and I want this new small innocent feature Feb 10 05:18:23 to be included Feb 10 05:18:27 If I terminate it, I'm sure I want it terminated Feb 10 05:18:43 and most of the times Android terminates applications, not people Feb 10 05:19:07 I still don't understand why you want it to restart Feb 10 05:19:22 if you explain it maybe people can give you a meaningful suggestion Feb 10 05:19:46 it's an app full of surprises Feb 10 05:19:55 small things in life make you happy Feb 10 05:20:20 ok, I hope you will be happy without my help because I can't help you Feb 10 05:23:37 This year I learn to not trust two kinds of people on IRC: 1) people who contact you privately without asking permission first 2) people who use random character sequences as their nicknames Feb 10 05:24:18 /query Melatonina Feb 10 05:25:09 those are not healthy assumptions Feb 10 05:26:50 randomness brings hilarity and mirth Feb 10 05:27:35 and joy Feb 10 05:27:39 love of life Feb 10 05:28:00 isolating yourself and not helping people will not get you anywhere my friend Feb 10 05:28:31 but youre probably european, I understand your pain Feb 10 05:31:24 QED Feb 10 05:32:14 ok you got me Feb 10 05:34:06 ok so there is the option to enable "always online" so the users want to keep the notification which says "mate you're online" Feb 10 05:34:16 and as soon as they get a job they want the app to start itself Feb 10 05:34:19 even when they terminate it Feb 10 05:34:27 I think this is a legitimate case Feb 10 05:35:15 You should probably use a service and notifications Feb 10 05:35:31 there is a broadcastreceiver Feb 10 05:35:53 which can start from onStop but not onDestroy Feb 10 05:36:25 because it's a localbroadcastreceiver, and a global normal broadcastreceiver doesn't work at all because of the GcmIntentService running in background Feb 10 05:37:52 the one that handles the received and opened notifications Feb 10 05:38:13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWgxjc7kv3Q Feb 10 05:51:35 not to mention people who both have a random sequence of characters as nickname AND messages you privately without asking permission first Feb 10 05:57:49 CedricBeust: I'm still receiving this spam from sdfgsdfg http://imgur.com/a/iQn39 Feb 10 05:58:23 Just ignore him? Feb 10 05:59:36 No need. He stopped Feb 10 05:59:50 After almost ten minutes Feb 10 06:11:53 haha Feb 10 06:11:59 looks like relations to me Feb 10 06:16:54 squ: what do you mean? Feb 10 06:17:29 relations between you two Feb 10 06:17:41 because I don't receive private messages Feb 10 06:21:08 I just attempted to help him. He could not define your exact problem so I gave up and he started to write that stuff. It's not something I would call a "relation" Feb 10 06:21:09 squ forever alone ? :( Feb 10 06:21:20 Anyway, he's gone Feb 10 06:36:02 hey guys im looking at creating a background service/app that will get push notifications from an amazon SNS queue. would a background service be sufficient or do i need to creat a proper app that runs in the background? Feb 10 06:50:23 My app's UI thread does a ton of layout and blocks the render thread from running causing sloooow performance, any general ideas on how to improve the layouts? Feb 10 06:58:01 nukeu666: why is the layout so complex? Feb 10 06:58:16 nukeu666: does it fit on one screen? Feb 10 06:59:12 Melatonina: its a list of buttons and icons, will not fit a page Feb 10 07:01:31 nukeu666: use a recycler view, possibly with different kinds of item layouts Feb 10 07:01:39 Melatonina: trace looks like this - http://imgur.com/a/K79qO , it's stuck with lots of inflates, each button is a different view Feb 10 07:01:52 nukeu666: they will be inflated only when needed Feb 10 07:02:31 nukeu666: a recycler view of that kind is slightly more complex than your usual recycler view but it's not overly difficult Feb 10 07:03:27 Melatonina: ok thanks, ill take a look at recycler Feb 10 07:03:50 nukeu666: you are welcome Feb 10 07:04:14 nukeu666: can you post a screen shot? Feb 10 07:05:13 hey Melatonina :) Feb 10 07:05:58 nukeu666: if each item has the same layout, it's just your typical recycler view Feb 10 07:06:31 Melatonina: http://imgur.com/vLdnNku , each button is a view and it gets slow with fragments with many buttons Feb 10 07:07:44 nukeu666: yes, it will be more complex than a typical recycler view but you'll find tutorials on how to do it Feb 10 07:07:58 Melatonina: got a question for you i have a particular scenario where I want to send notifications to a particular batch of company mobiles through the amazon SNS service. what kind of app do i need on the phone to be able to subscribe for the notifications? Feb 10 07:08:12 a background app that interfaces with amazon's sns or would a service suffice? Feb 10 07:09:02 Melatonina: thanks, checking it out Feb 10 07:09:56 eagles0513875|2: probably an app with an activity to subscribe and a service to listen but I don't know Amazon's SNS. Sorry. I can't help. Feb 10 07:10:50 dont worry amazon sns is a simple notification service like push notifications etc. I have the SDK for that, but my issue is that the end users dont need to see the app its kind of like a forced requirement for them to be subscribed Feb 10 07:11:00 as i do not want them tampering with the app Feb 10 07:11:20 unless you advise i put some sort of password to be able to make changes to any of the app's settings? Feb 10 07:11:51 <_genuser_> hey guys, quick question: getString(R.string.value); I have on the top import static android.provider.Settings.Global.getString; Feb 10 07:11:54 <_genuser_> does it require something else? Feb 10 07:13:58 <_genuser_> nevermind, mistake. getString should be on a context, by directly as a static. Feb 10 07:14:09 <_genuser_> *not directly as a static. Feb 10 07:21:15 eagles0513875|2: I heard you can handle out a device with some applications locked Feb 10 07:21:33 eagles0513875|2: but I don't know anything more Feb 10 07:21:41 Melatonina: i have done so thing is we have some smart asses that manage to uninstall the application Feb 10 07:21:57 i have one other thing to try out, but still need to send it through my testing pipeline. Feb 10 07:22:14 might have to use a combo of a launcher (lightening launcher) and an app lock mechanism Feb 10 07:33:58 So I have this utility class that can perform some sort of operation and report back the result given a Callback. I'd like to give the user the option of having this callback run on either the UI/MainThread or a given thread. How should I do this? [...] Feb 10 07:34:36 ^ Feb 10 07:34:44 Err, wrong window. Feb 10 07:35:30 A) Should I use performAction ( Args args, Callback callback, Handler handler ) where the user can specific a handler so the performAction will do handler.post( () -> callback(result) ); Feb 10 07:36:10 1) Or should it rather be performAction ( Args args, Callback callback, Looper looper )? Feb 10 07:36:17 argh.. A/B Feb 10 07:37:37 And perhaps what confuses me the most right now: How do I create my own Handler instance or Looper instance that is capable of handling Runnables posted to it? Is there some default implementation that works out of the box? Feb 10 07:38:15 Maybe I've misunderstood the relationship and purpose of Looper/Handler Feb 10 07:38:57 Zta77: you could use a PublishSubject from RxJava to publish the result and use observeOn() to select the scheduler on which the event is received Feb 10 07:39:07 that's just one way to do it Feb 10 07:43:24 Zta77: you need to create a new thread and run the looper inside of it Feb 10 07:44:28 Zta77: here's how to create and run a Looper thread: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/Looper.html Feb 10 07:44:28 Melatonina: Out of the question. I'm not going to introduce a library and a completely new coding pattern just because of this. But it would be interesting to know how RxJava handles this, because obviously it has a background worker thread. Feb 10 07:46:30 Zta77: Handler (of a Looper) is the way to post runnable on a looper queue Feb 10 07:46:51 Melatonina: Yes, that implements the Handler's handleMessage(Message msg). But is all I want to do is: if (msg instanceof Runnable) { ((Runnable)msg).run(); }. So I was wondering of there was a default implementation that does this, and handles everything else I haven't thought of. Feb 10 07:48:27 Zta77: sincere I found little use case for a Looper-base thread Feb 10 07:48:45 I would review and/or state what the "other thread" is Feb 10 07:50:00 Hello, I'm having problem to encrypt a message from perl to a android app. https://gist.github.com/varazir/9fdafc85026553a9ac9cfc8afa19eda8 and the error the app gives me is error:1e000065:Cipher functions:OPENSSL internal:BAD DECRYPT. I'm not the dev of the android app and the dev has problem to TS the problem too. Could anyone give me a hint where I could start looking for a solution ? Feb 10 07:50:27 I mean, since there's post(Runnable r) it seems like a core feature of the Android Messaging system. So I thought it would be easy to just out of the air fetch a new Looper-thread that can run my runnables. Feb 10 07:51:03 Melatonina: I just want background thread to run Runnables =) Feb 10 07:51:48 Varazir: contact the dev that there is a bug Feb 10 07:51:57 Zta77: why don't start an AsyncTask for each? Feb 10 07:52:25 eagles0513875|2: dev don't know how he can help me trubleshoot the problem Feb 10 07:52:45 eagles0513875|2: is there a bug on android och perl side do you think ? Feb 10 07:52:53 i dont know to be honest Feb 10 07:53:12 eagles0513875|2: the decryption works fine from other platforms and between android apps Feb 10 07:53:27 eagles0513875|2: ok Feb 10 07:53:58 you say other platforms what devices? it could be a specific bug to your hardware though Feb 10 07:54:01 not sure to be ohnest Feb 10 07:54:03 honest Feb 10 07:54:48 works from the Chrome addon the dev have created. Devices I mean if I send a message from one phone to another it works Feb 10 07:55:09 ok Feb 10 07:55:15 im not going ot be much help here Varazir Feb 10 07:55:22 eagles0513875|2: np Feb 10 07:56:55 Zta77: otherwise create a Looper-base thread. Handler has a post(Runnable) method Feb 10 07:58:07 Zta77: what more do you need? Feb 10 08:03:05 Zta77 there is HandlerThread Feb 10 08:04:25 Good to know. Everything already wrapped up for you Feb 10 08:07:17 hi g00s, mela Feb 10 08:07:32 hey raoul11 Feb 10 08:07:56 the bliss of androiddev and memoryleaks Feb 10 08:08:07 splendid way to start the weekend Feb 10 08:09:54 raoul11 are you using leak canary ? Feb 10 08:10:06 yes Feb 10 08:10:34 like it? i haven't used it yet Feb 10 08:10:40 * g00s doesn't leak ahaha Feb 10 08:10:45 am not sure yet Feb 10 08:10:48 its google's shit that leaks :D Feb 10 08:10:52 indeed Feb 10 08:10:57 the maps object atm g00s Feb 10 08:11:09 oh yeah ... Feb 10 08:11:20 inflater.inflate also fucks shit up for me Feb 10 08:11:23 donno why yet Feb 10 08:11:34 its so random i can barely generate a crash Feb 10 08:15:56 ahh random bugs Feb 10 08:16:06 i have random bug for ya Feb 10 08:16:33 randoms but all related to inflater Feb 10 08:16:53 in various places on the app, when trigger switchin between activities Feb 10 08:17:36 my bug happens 99% for samsung, affects about 1% users, its Unknown authority blah when trying applyBatch to contentProvider Feb 10 08:17:53 but contentProvider has this authority and it works most of the time Feb 10 08:18:13 it seems like ContentProvider hasnt been initialized yet somehow Feb 10 08:18:29 what a suprise, mine happens on samsung as well Feb 10 08:18:53 the other 1% are some random low-end phones Feb 10 08:18:56 how do u deal with it? Feb 10 08:19:18 im dealing with it right now. i dont know where to start Feb 10 08:19:22 SO isnt helpful yet Feb 10 08:19:32 try/catch everything? Feb 10 08:19:51 retry again in n milliseconds? Feb 10 08:20:03 thats one things im considering... Feb 10 08:20:04 you have to be wise Ashiren Feb 10 08:20:37 but in this project we have so many random try catch i fear of using another one Feb 10 08:22:34 hi raoul11! Feb 10 08:24:21 Ashiren man you get the coolest bugs Feb 10 08:29:55 g00s: HandlerThread doesn't implement a handleMessage afaik Feb 10 09:09:53 leakcanary works great, 1 memoryleak gone, now 3000 more to follow Feb 10 09:11:17 guttenshabas Leeds Feb 10 09:19:24 and shabbat shalom to you... Feb 10 09:55:53 Hey, someone knows what that thing is called, when you have a 3x3 grid of items and you click on one, and it moves into a new layout, like item picker but animated. Feb 10 10:12:29 interesting, a lot of the leaks originate from anonymouse onClickListeners Feb 10 10:14:24 depends on what you do with those listeners... Feb 10 10:15:09 interfaces between a rv to the parent Feb 10 10:15:22 astroduck: shared transition Feb 10 10:15:48 but, registering the listener at the class level and setting it to null on the onDestroy seems to remove the leak Feb 10 10:18:45 "at class level" what? Feb 10 10:21:25 possible leaks with anonymous classes are caused by them living longer than the creating class and that only happens if you put them somewhere that's not owned by the creating class Feb 10 10:22:16 because anonymous classes implicitly contain a reference to their parent class Feb 10 10:42:46 squ: Shared transition is to a different activity, right? I just want it to move to different viewgroup Feb 10 10:44:01 astroduck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L4fLrWDvAU Feb 10 10:44:24 look if they mention what you need Feb 10 10:50:59 Is there any way to let rxjava retry (in case of an error) aslong as the max has not been reached? Like having a Thread for 30 Seconds which stops the retry/task as soon as it reaches sucessfull OR the time is over? Feb 10 10:54:22 squ: Okay, thanks :) Feb 10 11:06:36 Hi, when I’m using Context.getCacheDir() or Context.getExternalCacheDir() in my android app, it both returns the same path and it’s a path on an sdcard that isn’t in there. How can I resolve this? Feb 10 11:08:24 It’s Android Kitkat and it’s trying to access /storage/sdcard1 which is an empty readonly file system Feb 10 11:11:42 MadWasp, read the documentation: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Context.html#getExternalCacheDir() Feb 10 11:12:26 i did Feb 10 11:13:26 have you check if isExternalStorageEmulated(File) is true? Feb 10 11:14:23 have you sufficient privilege to be sure the path isn't there instead of "not available to your user"? etc Feb 10 11:14:38 is it a weird cheap device with a custom rom? Feb 10 11:14:59 it is a weird expensive device with a custom rom :P Feb 10 11:45:22 e\\\ee Feb 10 11:45:29 lala Feb 10 11:45:42 my app got rejected when tryign to unpublish it Feb 10 11:45:44 sigh Feb 10 12:02:11 Can I use getApplication() or getActivity() from an AppWidgetProvider? Feb 10 12:16:32 My app has a list of job postings displayed in a widget. I want to update the list daily in the background (even if the app isn't running). Not sure if services, alarm manager, or job dispatcher would be appropriate. Tried using sync adapter but couldn't get it to work. Would appreciate some input. Feb 10 12:16:51 hi, I changed my project to use the Jack compiler, and it works but I've noticed that lambdas don't give trace file and line at all Feb 10 12:17:27 This makes debugging very difficult. Is there any way to use lambdas while also having full debugging information ? Feb 10 12:22:15 This stackoverflow answer suggests adding "-g:lines,source,vars" to javac compiling options, but I can't find where I should add them in Android Studio: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30424735/how-to-locate-lambda-when-exception-happens Feb 10 12:58:14 or should I just stick with Java 7? Feb 10 13:16:10 Hi all, I hope you are dealing well with android development, Unfortunately I am having a problem with LinearLayout. Can I publish stackoverflow link here? Feb 10 13:17:19 yes Feb 10 13:17:57 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42131488/android-layout-correct-in-designer-but-wrong-in-device Feb 10 13:18:34 I am going crazy because the xml looks ok Feb 10 13:18:55 in designer Feb 10 13:21:38 I'd think for that design you'd just give the list a weight and let the input layout on the bottom wrap its content Feb 10 13:21:57 yeah Feb 10 13:22:16 like you do in the inner linearlayout Feb 10 13:22:21 but I want it using layout_weight Feb 10 13:22:43 Why? Feb 10 13:22:48 where is the problem in above code Feb 10 13:23:05 because it scales better Feb 10 13:23:55 I don't understand the logic there, you want to give the input possibly more or less space than it needs to show the input and button? Feb 10 13:24:46 I am not saying it would necessarily fix this, but logically it feels more correct. Feb 10 13:25:03 but why is showing correctly in all designer devices Feb 10 13:25:39 Because they are showing outside of its eventual parent layout Feb 10 13:26:18 probably because the designer doesn't have the tabs Feb 10 13:26:40 you have the photos Feb 10 13:27:25 but i think when we say match parent, the layout will match parent Feb 10 13:27:50 On my side it looks logic Feb 10 13:28:06 but perhaps i am wrong Feb 10 13:29:46 to be honest, I'd just do it in a relative layout Feb 10 13:30:53 the relative layout is not scalable Feb 10 13:31:48 for me it is important to know whats wrong Feb 10 13:32:29 "not scalable"? what? Feb 10 13:32:33 how is it not scalable? Feb 10 13:32:55 http://4190f464c4eca0a5.paste.se/ here you go Feb 10 13:33:00 scales fine Feb 10 13:33:49 but to really figure out what's wrong, I'd need a codebase I can compile, run and debug Feb 10 13:33:55 i mean it doesnt scale well in different screen sizes. I am used to use percentages and layout_weight support this Feb 10 13:34:51 ok i will send it, thank you for trying to help me Feb 10 14:02:13 it is taking too long to upload Feb 10 14:02:27 heh Feb 10 14:03:06 http://imgur.com/a/Xog3L finally achieved perfect padding with the grid layout manager Feb 10 14:03:10 can you please use the given xml on a tabbed activity Feb 10 14:04:54 adq, cool Feb 10 14:05:47 My screen goes black when doing a finish on one Activity, even though neither the Activity that gets finished nor the one that gets resumed does anything on the UiThread. How can I fix this? Feb 10 14:06:01 that is pretty adq Feb 10 14:06:39 hows that emulator so fast /: Feb 10 14:07:07 it's the regular avd (API 25) Feb 10 14:07:14 not even using the newest beta one Feb 10 14:08:16 also i profiled a lot everything, almost no waste of cpu Feb 10 14:08:35 no unnecessary overdraw, etc Feb 10 14:09:04 teach me Feb 10 14:09:18 tell me yer dirty avd secrets Feb 10 14:09:31 i'm not using a macbookpro Feb 10 14:09:43 :)) Feb 10 14:09:56 lol Feb 10 14:10:00 neither do i Feb 10 14:10:08 though i am considering gettin one Feb 10 14:10:17 well, is your avd spiking your cpu? or is it your app which is slow in the emulator? Feb 10 14:10:54 in both case, you need to profile to understand where the bottlenecks are, and then fix those bottlenecks when possible Feb 10 14:10:56 AVD takes half a day to start here :T Feb 10 14:10:58 Though not laggy Feb 10 14:11:10 wow half a day, maybe you need to use an x86 one with virtualization Feb 10 14:11:14 utilizing about 6% of the cpu Feb 10 14:11:16 because only arm are damn slow Feb 10 14:11:28 then it's probably your app raoul11, i don't even have a decent gpu Feb 10 14:11:32 (it's a very old ati card) Feb 10 14:11:39 This is x86 with HAXM, but yeah Feb 10 14:11:41 u should do a blog about it adq Feb 10 14:11:43 It's cumbersome-ish Feb 10 14:11:49 my gpu is also old Feb 10 14:12:45 runs 10x faster on a sgs3 Feb 10 14:14:54 nice, another leak gone Feb 10 14:16:30 gotta say that leakcanary is damn useful Feb 10 14:16:58 almost everything made by square is pretty cool Feb 10 14:17:08 i said almost because i haven't use everything they do lol Feb 10 14:17:58 its amazing what impact they have on androiddev Feb 10 14:18:58 dagger <3 Feb 10 14:19:05 but yes, +1 Feb 10 14:22:47 zharf it is finishing upload Feb 10 14:24:45 where is it Feb 10 14:25:14 https://pavelfatin.com/typing-with-pleasure/#total-latency cool article Feb 10 14:25:17 poor AS Feb 10 14:25:33 (since AS can and is only slower than IDEA) Feb 10 14:26:52 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwPDaPRN_jldeW93allSbmtBN1U/view?usp=sharing Feb 10 14:27:31 thank you for the help Feb 10 14:27:59 next time you can remove the build directories to make it smaller :) Feb 10 14:28:42 What's idea (zero latency) Feb 10 14:29:24 https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2015/08/experimental-zero-latency-typing-in-intellij-idea-15-eap/ <-- Interesting, wasn't aware Feb 10 14:32:13 https://code.google.com/p/gmaps-api-issues/issues/detail?id=8596 Feb 10 14:32:24 zharf ok thank you Feb 10 14:33:48 edi_, did you notice that your actual list thing is on section 2? Feb 10 14:35:02 you mean in xml Feb 10 14:35:09 no, in the application Feb 10 14:35:33 you put the fragment on position 1 which is second page with 0 indexing Feb 10 14:36:19 Hello Feb 10 14:36:27 Did anybody can tell me where i should start to learn to connect to a server in android? Feb 10 14:36:29 i mean, from one app, where i should look or what should i search to learn how to connect to a server? Feb 10 14:36:32 thanks in advance Feb 10 14:36:48 yes i know this Feb 10 14:37:01 I'm learning programming but i haven't choose a language yet. I just learned the basics and can do simple flowcharts (object oriented) that solves easy problems. My goal is to be able to make android apps. I think im ready to start with an specific language. What language that should be? what software should i use to program in that chosen language -im guessing i should be programming in java, but i am not sure. I can use eithe Feb 10 14:37:18 my fault see at section 2 Feb 10 14:37:21 edi_, just wondering because your screenshot was from section 1, which is essentially useless Feb 10 14:37:53 the second linearlayout is not showed properly Feb 10 14:38:00 your problem is in activity_main.xml though Feb 10 14:38:03 go native wendico Feb 10 14:39:12 i just need a pair of basic concepts to start looking Feb 10 14:39:22 i make C# client-server apps in a daily basis Feb 10 14:39:25 but i'm new in android Feb 10 14:39:48 so, i want to know like an orientation of what should i start learning to actualy connect an android app with a server Feb 10 14:39:53 edi_, http://eclipser.xmms2.org/problem.png Feb 10 14:40:07 see how the viewpager goes below the device bounds Feb 10 14:40:17 raoul11: what do you mean with go native? thank you Feb 10 14:40:17 o sorry the image is wrong, visit section 2 and you will see the problem Feb 10 14:40:29 java Feb 10 14:40:46 (I just hate coordinatorlayout...) Feb 10 14:40:57 i did not modify view pager Feb 10 14:41:10 edi_, I know, the template you created it from is crap Feb 10 14:41:28 edi_, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35358174/viewpager-is-being-pushed-out-of-the-screen-coordinatorlayout-design-library here's the same problem Feb 10 14:42:02 edi_, http://stackoverflow.com/a/40000060/857853 seems to fix the problem Feb 10 14:42:23 maybe Feb 10 14:44:05 have you tried it Feb 10 14:45:51 If the goal is Android, java is the way to go, wendico. Feb 10 14:52:43