**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 14 03:00:03 2017
Feb 14 04:29:05 <min2> whay log is not getting disabled from release build
Feb 14 04:30:06 <min2> how to hide default logging Log.d/v/i from release build
Feb 14 04:30:58 <min2> I have also mentioned check in .pro but no use
Feb 14 04:31:30 <g00s> min2 not sure its still the right way, but you can disable log.* from proguard. you can also do something if (debug) log.* (...) but thats kinda lame
Feb 14 04:31:55 <g00s> maybe the logcat wrappers do it for you
Feb 14 04:32:37 <min2> thanks g00s, but now i can not put check everywhere it will become too messy
Feb 14 04:32:57 <bankai_> not everywhere, just create a single logging class and do it there
Feb 14 04:33:07 <g00s> min2 yeah, you can make your own wrapper
Feb 14 04:33:18 <g00s> does timber do something smart there ?
Feb 14 04:34:02 <min2> yeah I checked, but for that I have to replace logs everywhere m i right?
Feb 14 04:34:13 <min2> amnd replace with my own wrapper
Feb 14 04:35:22 <bankai_> exactly how much ARE you logging?
Feb 14 04:35:33 <min2> it too much
Feb 14 04:35:38 <bankai_> sounds it
Feb 14 04:36:16 <g00s> logjam :)
Feb 14 05:30:04 <talkJS> What's the go-to book for android programming?
Feb 14 05:57:43 <min2> How can i diable logs which are coming from .jar files
Feb 14 06:00:09 <min2> there is one Log.d inside classes.jar of third party lib which I wan to disable in release
Feb 14 06:08:41 <ClydeSlims> I opened up Android Studio today and I can't see a preview of my app's manifest...
Feb 14 06:08:52 <ClydeSlims> All I can view is the code.
Feb 14 06:18:47 <capella> bacon is definitely a thing in Texas 🐷
Feb 14 06:51:28 * raoul11 thepooshes thepoosh 
Feb 14 06:51:34 <raoul11> boker
Feb 14 06:52:05 <thepoosh> hi hi hi
Feb 14 06:52:34 <Melatonina> bacons has 541 calories for 100g
Feb 14 06:53:01 <raoul11> wsup
Feb 14 06:53:03 <raoul11> o/ mela
Feb 14 06:53:09 <thepoosh> Melatonina: that's why I keep kosher
Feb 14 06:53:13 <thepoosh> no bacon for me
Feb 14 06:53:25 <thepoosh> raoul11: s'all good, still 2-2
Feb 14 06:53:28 <Melatonina> hi raoul11 hi thepoosh
Feb 14 06:54:02 <raoul11> Melatonina send me some salaminos plz
Feb 14 06:54:24 <Melatonina> give me your address in private
Feb 14 06:54:30 <raoul11> \:
Feb 14 06:54:35 <raoul11> it wont work Melatonina
Feb 14 06:54:45 <Melatonina> why?
Feb 14 06:54:51 <raoul11> coz thepoosh's mafia blocks any shipment of nonkosher meat into israel
Feb 14 06:54:54 <raoul11> ):
Feb 14 06:55:00 <Melatonina> :(
Feb 14 06:55:00 <squ> give me your address
Feb 14 06:55:14 <raoul11> thats why i have to smuggle 3kg of salaminos everytime i visit italy
Feb 14 06:55:36 <Melatonina> :D
Feb 14 06:55:51 <raoul11> or buy local shitty salaminos
Feb 14 06:56:18 * thepoosh is squinting towards raoul11
Feb 14 06:56:25 <thepoosh> I gottca now!
Feb 14 06:56:39 <squ> salami is not kosher?
Feb 14 06:56:57 <raoul11> anything that doesnt have the stamp of thepoosh's friends isnt kosher
Feb 14 06:57:09 <squ> very thepoosh
Feb 14 06:57:21 <squ> he is always like that
Feb 14 06:57:32 <raoul11> doesnt have to be pork. even biltong is blocked here ):
Feb 14 06:57:52 <raoul11> thepoosh: did u turn on package private in AS
Feb 14 06:58:09 <raoul11> as per JakeWhaXXX advised?
Feb 14 06:58:25 <Melatonina> can't I fake the kosher stamp with my printer?
Feb 14 06:58:35 <squ> its certeficate
Feb 14 06:58:39 <raoul11> ^^
Feb 14 06:58:46 <thepoosh> raoul11: ?
Feb 14 06:59:06 <thepoosh> I signed out before i got a chance to see the answer
Feb 14 06:59:07 <raoul11> smugglin drugs is less dangerous than smugglin nonkosher meat
Feb 14 06:59:10 <thepoosh> do you have logs?
Feb 14 06:59:16 <raoul11> no, from the talk
Feb 14 06:59:19 <thepoosh> oh
Feb 14 06:59:22 <raoul11> didnt see him respond yday
Feb 14 06:59:30 <thepoosh> I try to do less privates
Feb 14 06:59:39 <Melatonina> I wanna get rich
Feb 14 06:59:40 <thepoosh> mostly use package protected
Feb 14 06:59:46 <thepoosh> Melatonina: it'll happen
Feb 14 06:59:54 <squ> Melatonina: do you have plan where to spend
Feb 14 06:59:55 <thepoosh> you're in the right field
Feb 14 07:00:16 <Melatonina> I'll study way to import Italian salami to Israel
Feb 14 07:00:25 <thepoosh> squ: I already decided that once i'm a freakin' billionaire I will become a butcher
Feb 14 07:00:32 <raoul11> The first one I already showed. Turn on that private member inspection and listen to it. Don’t ignore it. You don’t have to do it for every single type.
Feb 14 07:00:56 <raoul11> thepoosh i do everything private ):
Feb 14 07:01:02 <thepoosh> not anymore!
Feb 14 07:01:09 <raoul11> no wonder am hittin 65k limit like a baws
Feb 14 07:01:48 <shmooz> my meat is both halal and kosher so there :P
Feb 14 07:02:36 <thepoosh> shmooz: I think that all kosher meat is halal as well
Feb 14 07:11:18 <ClydeSlims> My ImageView wont let me resize it in Android Studio. The resize knobs dont work.
Feb 14 07:11:30 <ClydeSlims> In fact the image is bigger than its supposed to be...what do I do?
Feb 14 07:11:41 <squ> learn xml
Feb 14 07:17:04 <raoul11> thepoosh http://i.imgur.com/WtAUpaE.png
Feb 14 07:17:20 <thepoosh> oh, nice
Feb 14 07:17:23 <thepoosh> setting now
Feb 14 07:18:55 <ClydeSlims> Okay trying to remove the actionbar from my app. I've made a new theme whos parent is set to: Theme.AppCompat.Light.NoActionBar
Feb 14 07:19:21 <ClydeSlims> but....it still appears in the design view of the activity_main.xml. It doesnt show up when I run my app though but it still pushes elements downwards as if its still there..whats going on?
Feb 14 07:20:10 <ClydeSlims> Like it still appears in android studio
Feb 14 07:21:02 <raoul11> i think thats what he meant thepoosh
Feb 14 07:21:08 <raoul11> not entirely positive
Feb 14 07:21:29 <thepoosh> well, we'll wait and see
Feb 14 07:30:40 <ClydeSlims> Anyone else had this problem with the ActionBar?
Feb 14 07:31:02 <ClydeSlims> I simply want it to be invisible everywhere. Its invisible in the app but no Android Studio, and also I can't place elements at the top.
Feb 14 07:32:36 <raoul11> did you change the theme in the design tab?
Feb 14 07:42:40 <ClydeSlims> oh how?
Feb 14 07:43:05 <ClydeSlims> as in how do I change it to my custom theme defined in styles?
Feb 14 07:52:19 <Ashiren> above the designer you have AppTheme bar
Feb 14 08:32:05 <ClydeSlims> Is there an easier approach to taking UI from a PSD (photoshop document) and importing it into Android Studio other than manually editing the XML files and attempting to translate the styles manually?
Feb 14 08:32:16 <ClydeSlims> Or are there plugins/programs nowadays that can get the job done more easily?
Feb 14 08:53:20 <Mavrik> I honestly don't see how that kind of conversion would end up anything else than looking like total crap.
Feb 14 08:53:27 <Mavrik> Especially when you consider scaling to different screen sizes.
Feb 14 09:59:50 <Syzygy> A broadcast receiver that I set in code with LocalBroadcastReceiver.getInstance(this).registerReceiver(...) does not need to be added to the android manifest. Is this correct?
Feb 14 10:01:05 <Ashiren> eeyup
Feb 14 10:06:51 <Syzygy> Thansk
Feb 14 10:06:56 <Syzygy> *Thanks
Feb 14 10:26:39 <Syzygy> https://gist.github.com/Syzygy2048/8fdbabc49f159a0fc0b762e03563bbbf any idea why this broadcast receiver would not trigger?
Feb 14 11:01:54 <whatitis> do you have the permission in manifest for access network state?
Feb 14 11:15:28 <Zharf> Syzygy, you can't use *Local*BroadcastManager for receiving system broadcasts
Feb 14 11:17:50 <Zharf> also your code confuses me
Feb 14 11:39:00 <mniip> how do I tell a recyclerview that the amount/content of the rows has changed?
Feb 14 11:39:18 <Ashiren> adapter.notifyDatasetChanged()
Feb 14 11:39:29 <Ashiren> there is also one for particular row
Feb 14 11:41:09 <mniip> aha
Feb 14 11:42:30 <Zharf> there's also insert and delete notifys
Feb 14 11:47:04 <Syzygy> whatitis, yes i have. Zharf I used the LocalBroadcastManager due to some guides I found. Where should I register my receiver? Trying context now.
Feb 14 11:47:24 <Syzygy> Also what part of my code do you find confusing? I'll try to clarify it.
Feb 14 11:48:15 <astroduck> mniip: Don
Feb 14 11:48:29 <astroduck> mniip: *Don't use notifyDataSetChanged
Feb 14 11:49:46 <Syzygy> Zharf, seems to work with context.registerReceiver. thank you for your input.
Feb 14 11:50:05 <mniip> astroduck, why?
Feb 14 11:50:10 <mniip> because it has to redo everything?
Feb 14 11:50:38 <Zharf> Syzygy, you got it
Feb 14 11:51:29 <Zharf> Syzygy, the exception handler seems weird but I might be missing context
Feb 14 11:54:58 <Syzygy> Zharf, the init call comes from my onCreate method. The ResourceAccessException is triggered when there's not internet available, in that case I set a receiver that initializes the data once internet has been restored.
Feb 14 12:06:02 <mniip> 1487073004 [14:50:04] <mniip> astroduck, why?
Feb 14 12:06:02 <mniip> 1487073009 [14:50:09] <mniip> because it has to redo everything?
Feb 14 12:07:11 <astroduck> mniip: Yeah thats why. Sorry I got disconnected. Use notifyItemChanged/notifyItemRangeChanged
Feb 14 12:07:35 <astroduck> Also notifyDataSetChanged won't animate your items unlike its siblins
Feb 14 12:07:38 <mniip> I see
Feb 14 12:07:43 <astroduck> siblings*
Feb 14 12:10:12 <mniip> does notifyItemInserted reclaculate the layout immediately or does it schedule it
Feb 14 12:10:37 <mniip> can I call it 100 times or should I try to cache and notify ranges instead?
Feb 14 12:10:49 <Mavrik> it schedules it afaik
Feb 14 12:10:54 <Zharf> it does
Feb 14 12:10:58 <Mavrik> even though calling it 100 times is probably not a good approach
Feb 14 12:11:01 <Mavrik> perhaps use diffutils?
Feb 14 12:11:09 <mniip> nah
Feb 14 12:11:18 <mniip> there's only addition at the end and removal from the beginning
Feb 14 12:11:37 <mniip> the issue though is that it can happen thousands of times per second
Feb 14 12:13:43 <astroduck> mniip: For addition/removal of views use notifyItemRemoved notifyItemInserted, something like that
Feb 14 12:13:47 <Syzygy> Can intent.getExtra() be null if intent.getStringExtra() returns a valid string?
Feb 14 12:14:14 <astroduck> And I think notifyItemRangeChanged just calls notifyItemChanged on your behalf on every item
Feb 14 12:14:24 <astroduck> It used to do it at least
Feb 14 12:15:13 <astroduck> Yeah it does, in source notifyItemChanged calls notifyItemRangeChanged
Feb 14 12:15:29 <astroduck> so its like a helper function
Feb 14 12:15:31 <astroduck> :P
Feb 14 12:16:36 <Syzygy> https://gist.github.com/Syzygy2048/24299a7280f41ec61d12a486bb32c1f7 How is it possible that intent.getExtras() is null while intent.getStringExtra(...) is working?
Feb 14 12:17:30 <astroduck> Syzygy: I think getExtra is a bundle you can place in an intent
Feb 14 12:18:13 <tx> yeah
Feb 14 12:18:16 <tx> but putExtras
Feb 14 12:18:26 <Syzygy> sure, but if getStringExtra(..) works, then that implies that the intent does have an extra, so getExtra() shouldn't return null.
Feb 14 12:18:48 <Syzygy> unless I'm misunderstanding something.
Feb 14 12:19:19 <Syzygy> *getExtras()
Feb 14 12:19:34 <astroduck> I think, putExtras and getExtras work in pair, data of getStringExtra is kept separate
Feb 14 12:19:47 <astroduck> Look at its source, see what each of those functions do
Feb 14 12:20:17 <Ashiren> http://grepcode.com/file_/repo1.maven.org/maven2/org.robolectric/android-all/5.0.0_r2-robolectric-1/android/content/Intent.java/?v=source
Feb 14 12:20:26 <Ashiren> it seems getStringExtra() uses the extra internally
Feb 14 12:20:30 <Syzygy> getStringExtras also uses extra.
Feb 14 12:20:39 <Ashiren> so if getStringExtra is not null, getExtra shouldnt be null
Feb 14 12:21:53 <Syzygy> but according to the crashlog I received, that's exactly what happens.
Feb 14 12:26:08 <astroduck> Syzygy: You are talking about getExtra or getExtras?
Feb 14 12:26:29 <astroduck> If getextra, are you using same key for getStringExtra and getExtra?
Feb 14 12:27:11 <Syzygy> getExtras()
Feb 14 12:27:24 <Syzygy> (I even pasted the code)
Feb 14 12:27:44 <whatitis> where are you finding NotificationUtil.EXTRA_NOTIFICATION_MESSAGE
Feb 14 12:28:10 <whatitis> googling i can find some sites with NotificationUtil.EXTRA_NOTIFICATION_TYPE but not EXTRA_NOTIFICATION....
Feb 14 12:29:02 <Syzygy> NotificationUtil is a custom class. all of those are public static final Strings and all of them are set
Feb 14 12:29:44 <astroduck> Syzygy: Oh, oops
Feb 14 12:29:53 <whatitis> can you show it being used to send in the intent
Feb 14 12:32:01 <Syzygy> I'm not sure where it is sent from, but does it matter? The if should prevent getExtras() from being called if the first call doesn't have extras.
Feb 14 12:34:06 <whatitis> before String msg = ... and an if(intent!=null){ and see what happens
Feb 14 12:34:13 <Syzygy> I doubt the sender can somehow asynchronously remove on an intent that was sent.
Feb 14 12:34:35 <whatitis> and = add
Feb 14 12:35:07 <Syzygy> I can not reproduce this, it happened in the wild.
Feb 14 12:35:12 <whatitis> ah
Feb 14 12:35:45 <Syzygy> Not often, but I don't have many users.
Feb 14 12:35:53 <astroduck> Add explicit check and forget about it :P
Feb 14 12:36:36 <Syzygy> I would like to understand the reason for this crash... as far as I can see it should be impossible.
Feb 14 12:36:50 <astroduck> I agree :/
Feb 14 12:38:09 <whatitis> can it be caused by a sudden/perfectly timed race condition of app getting destroyed?
Feb 14 12:38:35 <Syzygy> Maybe? I can't tell...
Feb 14 12:38:57 <Syzygy> I'll close this without a fix I guess... freak error. If it happens again I'll look at it.
Feb 14 12:40:37 <whatitis> if won't affect performance can try and add some debugging try catch magic for rare cases to log what is happening when it happens
Feb 14 12:41:03 <astroduck> whatitis: If that is true, which I doubt is possible, we can't trust anything in android o_O
Feb 14 12:41:18 <whatitis> haha
Feb 14 12:41:53 <whatitis> can methods be break'd upon destroying app? or do the methods complete and then halts?
Feb 14 12:42:17 <whatitis> or atleast the objects in them collected
Feb 14 12:43:02 <astroduck> If they are halted, it won't throw an exception. Its like killing the vm, nothing will happen after it
Feb 14 12:43:38 <astroduck> I don't know how dalvik works when destroying apps
Feb 14 12:44:06 <Mavrik> it does kill -9 :P
Feb 14 12:52:03 <Syzygy> Is dalvik still a thing? wasn't it replaced with art in version 5.0?
Feb 14 12:54:31 <Syzygy> Nexus 4 running API level 23 btw.
Feb 14 12:54:32 <sci-fic> hello guys,this is my first time dealing with rxAndroid , any suggestions about tutorial or general would be appreciated
Feb 14 13:02:56 <Zharf> sci-fic, rxjava wiki and stackoverflow are probably the best resources
Feb 14 13:08:11 <mniip> not entirely sure I understand FragmentStatePagerAdapter
Feb 14 13:09:47 <mniip> are inheriting classes expected to store the created viewgroups?
Feb 14 13:09:47 <mniip> fragments, rather
Feb 14 13:10:09 <mniip> or is there a  way to figure out whether a given position has a real existing view currently?
Feb 14 13:11:32 <Zharf> why do you need to know that?
Feb 14 13:12:04 <adq> mniip, https://github.com/xxv/android-lifecycle maybe?
Feb 14 13:12:14 <adq> hellcycle or lolcycle
Feb 14 13:12:16 <adq> you choose
Feb 14 13:13:03 <mniip> Zharf, I need to propagate an update notification to a particular tab
Feb 14 13:13:39 <Mavrik> I usually use an eventbus architecture for these.
Feb 14 13:13:44 <Zharf> yeah
Feb 14 13:13:55 <Mavrik> Register in onStart() / unregister in onStop()
Feb 14 13:14:09 <Mavrik> And just send an event so presenters / fragments can update themselves if anything changes.
Feb 14 13:14:15 <mniip> I see
Feb 14 13:14:22 <Mavrik> Alternatively, replace it with register / unregister listeners
Feb 14 13:14:22 * Zharf nods
Feb 14 13:14:30 <Mavrik> But IMO that adds spaghetti.
Feb 14 13:14:38 <Mavrik> This way you sidestep the whole issue :)
Feb 14 13:14:53 <mniip> you mean fragment.onStart/onStop?
Feb 14 13:15:08 <Mavrik> Whichever is relevant for you.
Feb 14 13:16:16 <orzen> Hi, I want my app to be able to write a plain text file containing cache data from a piece of C code. Which is the easiest way to accomplish this?
Feb 14 13:16:41 <Mavrik> Which part?
Feb 14 13:16:54 <Mavrik> I mean... just write the file in C code as you'd usually? :)
Feb 14 13:18:33 <orzen> Mavrik: Im getting permission denied then
Feb 14 13:18:39 <Mavrik> Well.
Feb 14 13:18:51 <orzen> For internal storage
Feb 14 13:18:51 <Mavrik> Are you writing to the directory within your app private store?
Feb 14 13:18:55 <Mavrik> You can't just write wherever.
Feb 14 13:19:02 <Mavrik> How are you figuring out where to write?
Feb 14 13:20:00 <Ashiren> you need WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission. aside from that, since android M you need also ask for runtime permission
Feb 14 13:20:20 <Zharf> you don't need that for external files dir
Feb 14 13:20:34 <Mavrik> or cachedir.
Feb 14 13:20:36 <Zharf> yeah
Feb 14 13:20:45 <Mavrik> But you will get write error if you do something dumb like hardcode the path ;)
Feb 14 13:20:48 <Zharf> only if you write outside of the applications data directories
Feb 14 13:22:13 <raoul11> silly q: in retrofit, i am posting to my api using a particular pojo, and on the response body i am receiving a diff pojo
Feb 14 13:22:24 <orzen> Mavrik: is it possible to retrieve the internal storage directory from C, like is it specified in any header files?
Feb 14 13:22:33 <Zharf> raoul11, that's a statement, not a question
Feb 14 13:22:36 <Mavrik> orzen, nope, you need a context.
Feb 14 13:22:43 <raoul11> how exactly can i parse the response as a diff object?
Feb 14 13:22:53 <Mavrik> orzen, easiest is just pass it in from Java as a String
Feb 14 13:22:56 <raoul11> clicked enter by accident Zharf
Feb 14 13:22:59 <Zharf> raoul11, :p
Feb 14 13:22:59 <Mavrik> at startup / invocation / etc.
Feb 14 13:23:17 <Zharf> raoul11, just make it return a different type in your service interface?
Feb 14 13:23:35 <raoul11> silly indeed
Feb 14 13:23:37 <raoul11> thanks Zharf
Feb 14 13:24:18 <raoul11> the diff object in the Call<> part ot the (@body part)?
Feb 14 13:24:27 <raoul11> call id assume
Feb 14 13:24:34 <Zharf> call, yes
Feb 14 13:25:12 <raoul11> thanks Zharf
Feb 14 13:31:41 <orzen> Mavrik: I see, thank you!
Feb 14 14:11:04 <bytefire> hi.. in eclipse, i am getting 'import android.support cannot be resolved'. the line is: import android.support.v7.app.ActionBarActivity
Feb 14 14:11:42 <Zharf> eclipse isn't supported by google anymore, but you're missing the support-v7 library from your project
Feb 14 14:11:52 <Zharf> and don't ask me how to do that in eclipse, I can't stand it :p
Feb 14 14:12:12 <bytefire> Zharf: :)
Feb 14 14:12:14 <bytefire> thanks
Feb 14 14:16:26 <bytefire> Zharf: so i right-clicked etc and clicked Add External JARs.. and then browsed to <android sdk directory>/.../support/m2repository/
Feb 14 14:16:39 <bytefire> does that location look right?
Feb 14 14:18:37 <Zharf> extras\android\support\v7\appcompat\libs
Feb 14 14:18:56 <Zharf> thouuugh you'll need to add the whole parent directory, really
Feb 14 14:19:04 <Zharf> it's an android library project with resources
Feb 14 14:19:12 <Zharf> and you can't pack resources in a jar
Feb 14 14:19:36 <Zharf> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26878803/how-to-add-android-support-v7-libraries-in-eclipse
Feb 14 14:20:26 <Melatonina> raoul11: can't I send you a vacuum-packed salami or prosciutto by snail mail to Israel?
Feb 14 14:23:09 <bytefire> Zharf: many thanks.. i just need to download android support library and then add it
Feb 14 14:23:29 <Ashiren> that would be 1 line in gradle and androis studio :v
Feb 14 14:23:57 <bytefire> Ashiren: :)
Feb 14 14:24:43 <Zharf> sure but you'll quickly lose the time saved in configuration when compiling the project :)
Feb 14 14:49:43 <raoul11> no Melatonina /:
Feb 14 14:49:52 <raoul11> thepooshes m8 will stahp it
Feb 14 14:49:56 * raoul11 thepooshes thepoosh 
Feb 14 14:50:15 <bytefire> Zharf: under <android-sdk>/extras/android/ there is only one directory 'm2repository'.. no support
Feb 14 14:50:18 <Melatonina> What a strange Country
Feb 14 14:50:42 <Melatonina> enforcing religious rules by the state law
Feb 14 14:51:26 <Zharf> bytefire, it should be downloadable from sdk manager
Feb 14 14:52:10 <bytefire> Zharf: that's what i did. from SDK manager. but i can't find it under <sdk-location> directory
Feb 14 14:52:18 <thepoosh> raoul11: HAI
Feb 14 14:52:26 <thepoosh> what are we talking about?
Feb 14 14:52:30 <raoul11> going in an hour to the meeting
Feb 14 14:52:43 <raoul11> Melatonina wanna smugle proschuto to israel
Feb 14 14:52:50 <raoul11> told him your m8s will block it
Feb 14 14:53:18 <bytefire> Zharf: in SDK Manager window it shows SDK Path as the one i am looking under
Feb 14 14:53:30 <thepoosh> you are not allowed to import food in to any country
Feb 14 14:53:37 <thepoosh> sending food in the mail can get you in jail
Feb 14 14:54:31 <Melatonina> but is it legal to create an import business of Italian food in Israel?
Feb 14 14:55:16 <Melatonina> non-kosher food, I mean
Feb 14 14:55:20 <Zharf> bytefire, not at my computer right now but the support lib should be in the extras... bot the maven one
Feb 14 14:55:25 <Zharf> not*
Feb 14 14:56:48 <bytefire> Zharf: right
Feb 14 14:56:50 <raoul11> non kosher no Melatonina
Feb 14 14:57:04 <bytefire> Zharf: is there another way? to manually download them?
Feb 14 15:00:13 <Melatonina> Sorry guys but I support people following the kosher tradition but I find debatable a law prohibiting people from selling, buying and eating what they want.
Feb 14 15:02:10 <thepoosh> Melatonina: yes it is
Feb 14 15:02:18 <thepoosh> and there are non-kosher food places here
Feb 14 15:02:26 <thepoosh> raoul11: you're full of shit friend
Feb 14 15:02:53 <raoul11> am not your friend, buddy
Feb 14 15:03:13 <raoul11> do it thepoosh /:
Feb 14 15:03:50 <thepoosh> I AM NOT YOUR BUDDY, GUY!
Feb 14 15:04:20 <raoul11> <3
Feb 14 15:04:36 <raoul11> you must be the coolest mitnahel ever thepoosh
Feb 14 15:04:50 <thepoosh> I was born in 1983, I remember the first southpark episode
Feb 14 15:04:58 <raoul11> i member
Feb 14 15:04:58 <thepoosh> I watched Oz live
Feb 14 15:05:10 <raoul11> SIMON
Feb 14 15:05:17 <raoul11> ADA BEEEE ZZZZZZ
Feb 14 15:05:19 <thepoosh> I remember when netflix would mail you the DVDs
Feb 14 15:05:38 <raoul11> my network module is almost done thepoosh
Feb 14 15:05:43 <thepoosh> coolio
Feb 14 15:05:56 <raoul11> all done with helper classes
Feb 14 15:06:01 <raoul11> mvcing like a baws
Feb 14 15:07:31 <thepoosh> talk to corporate like a baws?
Feb 14 15:07:38 <thepoosh> approve memos?
Feb 14 15:08:26 <eagles0513875|2> hey all
Feb 14 15:08:56 <thepoosh> hi eagles0513875|2
Feb 14 15:09:18 <thepoosh> kvirc has a remote code execution vulnerability, you should try a different client
Feb 14 15:09:36 <eagles0513875|2> thepoosh: ??? im on my laptop
Feb 14 15:09:49 <thepoosh> you're using kvirc irc client?
Feb 14 15:10:04 <eagles0513875|2> version 4.9.2 which is a nightly
Feb 14 15:10:13 <eagles0513875|2> i can update the nightly if need be if its been fixed in a more recent nightly
Feb 14 15:10:19 <thepoosh> no worries
Feb 14 15:10:23 <thepoosh> what's news?
Feb 14 15:10:47 <eagles0513875|2> what do you mean thepoosh
Feb 14 15:11:05 <Melatonina> eagles0513875|2: I'm exploiting your client vulnerability to organize an illegal ring of Italian food import in Israel
Feb 14 15:11:08 <thepoosh> you said "hi" I said "hi"
Feb 14 15:11:11 <thepoosh> what's up?
Feb 14 15:11:23 <thepoosh> Melatonina: make me a pasta!
Feb 14 15:11:31 <thepoosh> that's all I have
Feb 14 15:11:46 <eagles0513875|2> Melatonina: not funny
Feb 14 15:11:57 <raoul11> Melatonina, add some panceta in thepoosh's pasta
Feb 14 15:12:57 <Melatonina> Ok, eagles0513875|2 is going to go in jail anyway. Pasta alla carbonara: http://assets.simplyrecipes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/pasta-carbonara-horiz-a-1200.jpg
Feb 14 15:13:39 <thepoosh> Melatonina: that is some good looking fucking pasta!
Feb 14 15:13:46 <Melatonina> :)
Feb 14 15:14:59 <thepoosh> Melatonina: obviously I can't eat it, it has cheese and meat mixed
Feb 14 15:15:46 <Melatonina> pasta, smoked streaky bacon, egg yolk, onion, Parmigiano, black pepper
Feb 14 15:15:50 <bytefire> under <android-sdk-dir>/extras/android/ all i see is m2repository. how do i get support repository there. i tried SDK Manager and it did download spport package but i can't find it
Feb 14 15:16:03 <Melatonina> thepoosh: I can't eat it either, I'm dieting. :D
Feb 14 15:16:16 <thepoosh> is that legal in Italy?
Feb 14 15:16:25 <Melatonina> of course :)
Feb 14 15:16:33 <thepoosh> bytefire: you need to add it as a dependency in build.gradle
Feb 14 15:17:05 <Melatonina> I'm just trying to lose some weight. I'd like to have a slim waist
Feb 14 15:17:13 <raoul11> a diet in italy means they only have 3 courses meals, rather than 5
Feb 14 15:17:20 <Melatonina> :D
Feb 14 15:17:23 <thepoosh> hehehe
Feb 14 15:17:41 <bytefire> thepoosh: right. but should SDK Manager have at least downloaded it? i am not using android development studio
Feb 14 15:17:55 <thepoosh> don't worry about it
Feb 14 15:18:04 <thepoosh> if the SDK manager downloaded it you're fine
Feb 14 15:18:09 <thepoosh> add it as a dependency
Feb 14 15:19:06 <bytefire> thepoosh: but still.. the lib - where is it?
Feb 14 15:19:19 <thepoosh> what exactly are you looking for?
Feb 14 15:20:33 <bytefire> i get this error: the import android.support cannot be resolved
Feb 14 15:20:39 <bytefire> on this line: import android.support.v7.app.ActionBarActivity
Feb 14 15:21:34 <thepoosh> bytefire: did you add the appcompat dependency?
Feb 14 15:21:36 <bytefire> apparently i need to add <android-sdk-dir>/extras/android/support/v7/..
Feb 14 15:21:42 <thepoosh> nope
Feb 14 15:21:48 <thepoosh> that is NOT what you do
Feb 14 15:21:51 <bytefire> riight
Feb 14 15:22:08 <bytefire> okay so appcompat is what i need?
Feb 14 15:22:37 <thepoosh>     compile 'com.android.support:appcompat-v7:25.0.1'
Feb 14 15:22:40 <eagles0513875_> thepoosh, im back
Feb 14 15:22:44 <eagles0513875_> different client this time
Feb 14 15:22:50 <thepoosh> oh hi there :)
Feb 14 15:22:52 <thepoosh> what's news?
Feb 14 15:23:01 <eagles0513875_> not much here.
Feb 14 15:23:07 <thepoosh> where is here?
Feb 14 15:23:09 <eagles0513875_> got some interesting side projects for work i want to continue this evening
Feb 14 15:23:13 <eagles0513875_> but im still at the office lol
Feb 14 15:23:17 <bytefire> thepoosh: thanks! i am on it
Feb 14 15:23:18 <eagles0513875_> android-dev side projects
Feb 14 15:23:24 <thepoosh> sounds familiar
Feb 14 15:23:28 <thepoosh> good luck with that
Feb 14 15:23:41 <eagles0513875_> thanks im brand spanking new to droid dev
Feb 14 15:23:51 <thepoosh> raoul11: you're coming with me?
Feb 14 15:23:51 <thepoosh> https://events.google.com/io/
Feb 14 15:23:58 <eagles0513875_> but made a great contact with someone in the channel whose in my time zone so i have been discussing things with him and getting help from him
Feb 14 15:24:14 <eagles0513875_> brb again
Feb 14 15:24:20 <thepoosh> just come by and ask, there are pepes from all over the globe here
Feb 14 15:24:36 <raoul11> depends if your baws is paying for my ticket thepoosh
Feb 14 15:24:48 <thepoosh> well, I aint payin jack
Feb 14 15:24:59 <raoul11> jill?
Feb 14 15:25:00 <bytefire> thepoosh: okay so now the error is still on the same line but this time it says android.support.v7 cannot be resolved (before it was jsut android.support)
Feb 14 15:25:07 <bytefire> just**
Feb 14 15:25:53 <bytefire> thepoosh: hang on.. might be my mistake
Feb 14 15:26:15 <eagles0513875_> hey again sorry changed one last thing which was bugging me as well
Feb 14 15:26:30 <thepoosh> 17:24 thepoosh: just come by and ask, there are pepes from all over the globe here
Feb 14 15:26:34 <eagles0513875_> ya i saw that mate
Feb 14 15:26:41 <eagles0513875_> i do tend to hang on irc quite a bit
Feb 14 15:26:54 <thepoosh> so does raoul11
Feb 14 15:26:59 <eagles0513875_> said side projects will be worked on in my own spare time
Feb 14 15:27:05 <eagles0513875_> raoul11, i spoke to him this past weekend
Feb 14 15:27:27 <raoul11> i halp
Feb 14 15:27:33 <raoul11> actually think i did
Feb 14 15:27:33 <bytefire> thepoosh: right. now i get this: The import android.support.v7.app.ActionBarActivity cannot be resolved
Feb 14 15:27:41 <raoul11> what was it eagles0513875_, fcm?
Feb 14 15:27:44 <eagles0513875_> ya
Feb 14 15:27:45 <thepoosh> change to AppCompatActivity
Feb 14 15:27:47 <eagles0513875_> that was it :D
Feb 14 15:28:02 <bytefire> right..
Feb 14 15:28:09 <eagles0513875_> hi byte
Feb 14 15:28:12 <eagles0513875_> bytefire,
Feb 14 15:28:28 <bytefire> hi eagles0513875_
Feb 14 15:28:34 <eagles0513875_> how are you bytefire
Feb 14 15:29:19 <bytefire> why do you ask.. what do you want from me :p
Feb 14 15:29:38 <eagles0513875_> nothing just striking up a convo
Feb 14 15:30:56 <bytefire> thepoosh: ActionBarActivity doesn't exist in android.support.v7.app.*
Feb 14 15:31:02 <bytefire> *pulling hair*
Feb 14 15:31:17 <thepoosh> bytefire: AppCompatActivity
Feb 14 15:31:42 <bytefire> that means i have to change it everywhere.. but aren't they different?
Feb 14 15:31:43 <Zharf> bytefire, honestly you'd be better off not using eclipse -.-
Feb 14 15:31:52 <bytefire> Zharf: not my choice mate
Feb 14 15:32:09 <Zharf> but you do use gradle?
Feb 14 15:32:23 <eagles0513875_> Zharf, i love android studio with gradle
Feb 14 15:32:31 <eagles0513875_> amazing IDE setup for sure :)
Feb 14 15:32:34 <thepoosh> bytefire: you're working on Eclipse?!
Feb 14 15:32:39 <Zharf> eagles0513875_, you're a sick man
Feb 14 15:32:41 <eagles0513875_> haha android studio for the win
Feb 14 15:32:44 <eagles0513875_> Zharf, ?
Feb 14 15:32:57 <Zharf> gradle is slow as a turtle
Feb 14 15:33:04 <eagles0513875_> why go through the headache of all the extra setup with eclipse when you have android studio with gradle already setup?
Feb 14 15:33:05 <bytefire> nevermind i'll spend whole night here
Feb 14 15:33:10 <thepoosh> Zharf: you use protify?
Feb 14 15:33:22 <bytefire> if i could i would use android studio etc
Feb 14 15:33:30 <eagles0513875_> Zharf, will see as my two side projects for work progress
Feb 14 15:33:38 <Zharf> thepoosh, no, that was slow as a turtle as well :p
Feb 14 15:33:59 <thepoosh> don't let you-know-who hear that
Feb 14 15:34:02 <thepoosh> so BUCK?
Feb 14 15:34:15 <Zharf> I talked about it with him like a year and a half ago
Feb 14 15:34:31 <Zharf> but I haven't had time to spend more time on getting the thing to build any faster since then
Feb 14 15:34:49 <Zharf> so I'm still stuck with the slow builds in gradle
Feb 14 15:35:15 <thepoosh> yeah, I actually like the gradle setup even if it's kinda slow
Feb 14 15:35:26 <thepoosh> btw, there is a payed plugin that has fucking fast builds
Feb 14 15:35:30 <thepoosh> don't remember the name
Feb 14 15:35:39 <Zharf> the 1-3 minute incremental builds are really getting to my nerves occasionally
Feb 14 15:36:00 <eagles0513875_> how complex is yoru app Zharf
Feb 14 15:36:08 <Zharf> before we migrated to gradle, the incremental builds were around 5-10s
Feb 14 15:36:16 <eagles0513875_> on what setup Zharf
Feb 14 15:36:25 <Zharf> what do you mean "setup"?
Feb 14 15:36:38 <eagles0513875_> to have them that fast did you have something in house like an in house build machine so to speak
Feb 14 15:37:05 <Zharf> no it was just an old style android project
Feb 14 15:37:20 <thepoosh> fine, gotta go
Feb 14 15:37:25 <thepoosh> seeya tomorrow peeps
Feb 14 15:37:32 <thepoosh> raoul11: you're going to the meetup tonight?
Feb 14 15:37:44 <Zharf> bytefire, do you use gradle or not?
Feb 14 15:37:52 <raoul11> yeah
Feb 14 15:38:15 <thepoosh> say hi to Britt
Feb 14 15:38:19 <eagles0513875_> seems like gradle you can get the source code for it and set it up on your own hardware
Feb 14 15:40:00 <raoul11> is that the curly jumpy girl?
Feb 14 15:40:19 <bytefire> Zharf: no
Feb 14 15:40:34 <bytefire> Zharf: but it shouldn't be so hard to download a jar
Feb 14 15:41:12 <Zharf> bytefire, it's not just a jar though
Feb 14 15:41:18 <bytefire> i have m2repository but i just can get support repository
Feb 14 15:41:46 <Zharf> bytefire, check package -> show obsolete packages
Feb 14 15:41:54 <bytefire> Zharf: okay. but i mean it is a set of files at the end of the day. why not just download them and point to them
Feb 14 15:42:00 <Zharf> you should have "android support library" in extras
Feb 14 15:42:03 <Zharf> not repository
Feb 14 15:42:04 <bytefire> Zharf: right
Feb 14 15:43:42 <Zharf> bytefire, it shows it for me but that might be because I've installed it before... but it might also be marked obsolete so it won't show it to you by default... check the package menu
Feb 14 15:43:54 <bytefire> Zharf: i can see Android Support Repository in Extras, inside SDK Manager. it is installed also
Feb 14 15:44:17 <Zharf> you want the library, not repository...
Feb 14 15:44:27 <bytefire> okay
Feb 14 15:44:48 <bytefire> can't see library though. even after checking obsolete
Feb 14 15:49:53 <Zharf> bytefire, huh, interesting, I guess they removed it and I just have an old install
Feb 14 15:53:44 <raoul11> thepo
Feb 14 15:53:56 <raoul11> where he go
Feb 14 15:54:14 <raoul11> does facebook login is done auto after first login?
Feb 14 15:54:49 <Zharf> bytefire, https://dl-ssl.google.com/android/repository/support_r23.2.1.zip
Feb 14 15:55:19 <Zharf> bytefire, but there won't be any more updates to that
Feb 14 15:55:30 <Zharf> since eclipse isn't supported anymore
Feb 14 15:58:17 <Zharf> there might be some features that don't exist in that version of the support library too
Feb 14 16:14:48 <mniip> is integer overflow reliable or is it UB?
Feb 14 16:17:47 <eagles0513875_> will have to bug you guys later as im soon out of the office and im shattered today was a super busy day but very productive :)
Feb 14 16:27:19 <bytefire> Zharf: thanks for your help on this non-sensical challenge :)
Feb 14 16:28:12 <bytefire> Zharf: won't be spending any longer on this. either it's android studio or nothing. not wasting any further energy on obsolete stuff
Feb 14 16:29:44 <bytefire> how do you know if android phone is using dalvik or art?
Feb 14 16:30:20 <Zharf> bytefire, pre-lollipop is dalvik
Feb 14 16:30:47 <Zharf> on kitkat there was an option to choose art
Feb 14 16:31:03 <Zharf> but it was an experimental thing
Feb 14 16:31:53 <bytefire> ah so anything after kitkat is art?
Feb 14 16:32:00 <Zharf> yes
Feb 14 16:32:21 <bytefire> cheers
Feb 14 16:39:15 <pfn> why is this relevant?
Feb 14 16:39:20 <pfn> you should never care from app code
Feb 14 16:39:44 <Zharf> yeah it doesn't really affect applications
Feb 14 16:42:40 <pfn> hmm, evgo doesn't have an api, boooo
Feb 14 16:56:11 <deburgur> hello everyone, can someone tell me what is the difference between MapView and Mapfragment
Feb 14 16:56:20 <pfn> one is a fragment and one is a view
Feb 14 16:56:35 <deburgur> view like web view
Feb 14 16:56:56 <deburgur> can you clarify a bit more
Feb 14 17:00:01 <pfn> a View is a View
Feb 14 17:00:04 <pfn> a Fragment is a Fragment
Feb 14 17:00:28 <ecv> hey
Feb 14 17:01:36 <deburgur> I am a beginner so I dont really know much about view and fragment, could you please give some more details
Feb 14 17:03:10 <SimonVT> https://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/View.html
Feb 14 17:03:16 <s73v3r> then you should probably go learn that first, before you deal with maps
Feb 14 17:03:18 <SimonVT> Examples include TextView, ImageView, Button
Feb 14 17:03:20 <SimonVT> And https://developer.android.com/guide/components/fragments.html
Feb 14 17:03:33 <s73v3r> Views and Fragments are some of the bases of Android development
Feb 14 17:04:23 <deburgur> thanks
Feb 14 17:04:34 <s73v3r> is there a setting  in Android Studio that will keep showing the horizontal scroll bars?
Feb 14 17:13:25 <patarr> Does anyone know of a way to export crashlytics crash data?
Feb 14 17:13:30 <patarr> Using an API or automated solution?
Feb 14 17:20:15 <mrandroid> Good morning peeps.
Feb 14 17:20:41 <mrandroid> Quick morning poll: what website do you like to use the most to share snippets of code on IRC?
Feb 14 17:24:54 <ludocode> Any pastebin, like pastebin.ca
Feb 14 17:25:05 <ludocode> Could also use github gists
Feb 14 17:34:57 <deburgur> thanks everyone bye now
Feb 14 17:35:59 <Iarfen> Hi!
Feb 14 17:36:02 <Iarfen> How I can load a library?
Feb 14 17:36:13 <Iarfen> I have to execute which gradle command? I'm inside Android Studio
Feb 14 17:37:41 <s73v3r> add it to your build.gradle file
Feb 14 17:39:10 <s73v3r> https://developer.android.com/studio/build/dependencies.html
Feb 14 17:42:25 <Iarfen> s73v3r: It says to include all jar files, then why I have to add it manually? I don't understand
Feb 14 17:42:46 <s73v3r> that’s if they’re in jar files
Feb 14 17:43:24 <s73v3r> also, I don’t know what you just asked
Feb 14 17:44:16 <Iarfen> it's inside a jar file
Feb 14 17:44:24 <Iarfen> how I can do that Android Studio detects it?
Feb 14 17:44:41 <s73v3r> so your dependency is a jar file. you add it to the project as that page says
Feb 14 17:44:51 <s73v3r> then you add an entry to your build.gradle file
Feb 14 18:04:31 <Iarfen> How I know if my library has been loaded?
Feb 14 18:04:45 <Iarfen> it doesn't says that it has load
Feb 14 18:08:50 <s73v3r> no, it doesn't
Feb 14 18:10:54 <pfn> you can see libraries in the library view of your project
Feb 14 18:12:12 <g00s> the famous nokia 3310 is coming back :D http://venturebeat.com/2017/02/13/hmd-global-will-launch-the-nokia-3-5-and-6-at-mwc-plus-a-3310-homage/
Feb 14 18:15:03 <s73v3r> larfen: are you having problems with a library?
Feb 14 18:20:28 <Iarfen> s73v3r: yes, I cannot load inside Android Studio the cordova library
Feb 14 18:20:46 <Iarfen> How I config it to be found by Android Studio? I think that's the probelm
Feb 14 18:20:48 <Iarfen> *problem
Feb 14 18:20:54 <pfn> cordova is not supported here
Feb 14 18:21:02 <Iarfen> why?
Feb 14 18:21:04 <s73v3r> i showed you the page on how to include libraries with your project
Feb 14 18:21:12 <Iarfen> yes, and I have done that
Feb 14 18:21:24 <s73v3r> if you need help with Cordova, you’d be better served by a Cordova channel
Feb 14 18:21:25 <Iarfen> I think the dependency isn't found by android studio, is only that
Feb 14 18:21:34 <s73v3r> we are not Cordova developers, we are Android developers
Feb 14 18:21:44 <s73v3r> why do you say that?
Feb 14 18:29:50 <ecv> any idea why I only get alpha channel to work in Paint.setColor() ? the rest is always black, whether I use hex strings or color definitions ...
Feb 14 18:30:58 <ecv> p.setColor(0xFFFFFFFF); and p.setColor(0xFF000000); throw me same result (black paint). Only alpha channel works. Why?
Feb 14 18:31:13 <mrandroid> O.K. my quick survey reveals that pastebin is by far the most popular snippet sharing website.
Feb 14 18:31:13 <ClydeSlims> How come in Android Studio, when I click on an element and under the properties list, if I click beside: alpha for example to set its value, it doesn't work? I can't double click the grey box to input a value. There's also a little wrench icon but clicking that does nothing either.
Feb 14 18:31:42 <mrandroid> ClydeSlims: cause, well, it's Android Studio
Feb 14 18:32:00 <ClydeSlims> mrandroid, it doesn't let you edit values? How come?
Feb 14 18:32:24 <mrandroid> my point is there are many features in Android Studio that don't seem to work well.
Feb 14 18:32:24 <ClydeSlims> I mean it's liked locked or something, how do I unlock it?
Feb 14 18:32:43 <mrandroid> you live with the fact that something is wrong in the world and get on with life.
Feb 14 18:32:48 <mrandroid> it's the Android Studio way.
Feb 14 18:32:52 <ecv> lol
Feb 14 18:33:06 <ClydeSlims> Yes but this is like such a primitive feature. Surely there's something wrong
Feb 14 18:33:12 <ClydeSlims> Does anyone actually know why though?
Feb 14 18:33:16 <mrandroid> take, for example, the fact that I upgraded to the latest Gradle plugin, and just now the build is failing with cryptic messages
Feb 14 18:33:21 <Dagmar> At the moment rather a number of the property dialogs take "a while" before you can actually edit them
Feb 14 18:33:38 <mrandroid> ClydeSlims if we took the mystery out of the situation you'd get bored
Feb 14 18:34:02 <ClydeSlims> I can't even close Android Studio properly...clicking the close button doesn't do anything..
Feb 14 18:34:17 <Dagmar> That's all you
Feb 14 18:48:36 <cristian_c> hello
Feb 14 18:51:07 <cristian_c> I've created a homescreen widget and I've created my appwidgetprovider class. I'd like to use change color of a drawable used as android:background in an imageview inside my widget
Feb 14 18:51:19 <pfn> you can't change the color of a drawable
Feb 14 18:51:26 <pfn> you only have apis available via RemoteViews
Feb 14 18:51:35 <pfn> that is all you can do
Feb 14 18:51:59 <cristian_c> in activity I can use findviewbyid and then getbackground from imageview
Feb 14 18:52:30 <cristian_c> ok, I've created a remoteviews also in onReceive method
Feb 14 18:52:42 <cristian_c> *instance
Feb 14 18:53:46 <cristian_c> pfn: could I access drawable from a remoteviews (not directly, too)?
Feb 14 18:54:02 <pfn> read the api available on remoteviews
Feb 14 18:54:04 <pfn> that is all you can do
Feb 14 18:54:06 <cristian_c> what should I change in my widget xml layout?
Feb 14 18:54:25 <cristian_c> pfn: I'be read them, but I've not found a ,way, yet
Feb 14 18:54:29 <pfn> there is no way
Feb 14 18:54:30 <cristian_c> *I0ve
Feb 14 18:55:15 <cristian_c> pfn: I see many wisget change color of imageviews when clicked
Feb 14 18:55:20 <cristian_c> *widgets
Feb 14 18:55:27 <cristian_c> *changing
Feb 14 18:55:34 <pfn> that's not changing the color of a drawable
Feb 14 18:55:49 <cristian_c> do they change the drawable itself?
Feb 14 18:55:59 <pfn> that is one approach
Feb 14 18:56:56 <cristian_c> currently I use roundedlightgrey.xml formmy drawable, so i should use a roundedblue:xml , I suppose
Feb 14 18:57:24 <cristian_c> but if I can't access to imageview by remoteviews, I can't do anything
Feb 14 18:57:36 <pfn> of course you can access it
Feb 14 18:57:39 <pfn> who said you can't
Feb 14 18:58:37 <cristian_c> currently is android:background=drawable/roundedlightgrey attribute in my <ImageView>
Feb 14 19:00:21 <pfn> setBackgroundColor and setBackgroundResource are @RemotableViewMethod
Feb 14 19:01:11 <cristian_c> todsy, I've looked at setbackgroundresource, I'll take a look again
Feb 14 19:01:30 <cristian_c> and I'll male some further tests
Feb 14 19:01:34 <cristian_c> *make
Feb 14 19:01:55 <pfn> https://dpaste.de/ccH1
Feb 14 19:02:47 <cristian_c> public void setBackgroundColor(@ColorInt int color) {
Feb 14 19:02:56 <pfn> it's pretty stupid that everything remotable in View isn't automatically in RemoteViews
Feb 14 19:03:34 <cristian_c> I've read only remoteviews class documentation on android developer website
Feb 14 19:03:42 <cristian_c> atm
Feb 14 19:04:39 <cristian_c> ah, ok, now I understand what remotableviewmethod means
Feb 14 19:06:34 <cristian_c> (I've also looked at setInt method in remoteviews class)
Feb 14 19:10:07 <garit> What are other options to display video than a normal app? I want to make a console app,and then somehow make a video output. What about vnc conection? Or a streaming of video i to a video player?
Feb 14 19:10:26 <pfn> no
Feb 14 19:11:17 <garit> Right now im making images and use gallery app to view a result
Feb 14 19:12:54 <s73v3r> there are no console apps on android
Feb 14 19:13:51 <garit> I just made one
Feb 14 19:13:55 <pfn> if you absolutely insist on doing it from an int main(); then you can write an http server and server HLS to anything that can stream it
Feb 14 19:13:59 <pfn> or rtsp
Feb 14 19:14:01 <pfn> or whatever
Feb 14 19:14:14 <pfn> ffmpeg, and live555, etc. can help you
Feb 14 19:14:24 <garit> thats interesting idea
Feb 14 19:14:39 <garit> Website as a universal gui
Feb 14 19:15:17 <garit> I can add a script that will simply reload an image once a second, for starter!
Feb 14 19:15:36 <garit> Yaay, thanks, will do it this way and switch to a video codec later
Feb 14 19:23:55 <patarr> Does anyone know of a programmatic way of exporting crashlytics data?
Feb 14 19:24:20 <SimonVT> patarr: Try their support, they're usually pretty responsive
Feb 14 19:46:01 <thepoosh> raoul11: are you there?
Feb 14 20:02:27 <g00s> thepoosh !
Feb 14 20:02:42 <thepoosh> hi g00s
Feb 14 20:03:03 <g00s> dinking around with rust and go. man, go really sucks
Feb 14 20:03:23 <thepoosh> what?! why?
Feb 14 20:04:24 <g00s> all the good things about the language have nothing to so with the language itself (like easy deployable static exes, etc). well its go goroutines, channels. but they have no generics, inheritance, and their package management is horrific
Feb 14 20:05:20 <g00s> rust is proving to be a bit more complicate than i thought, but i wanted to do some bare metal on rpi and not have to use fucking C again
Feb 14 20:08:14 <g00s> thepoosh I guess we're all waiting for AS 2.3, should be very soon now!
Feb 14 20:09:04 <thepoosh> well. what's on the changelog?
Feb 14 20:09:35 <g00s> its been so long i forgot lol
Feb 14 20:09:48 <g00s> seems like the pace is slowing down over there
Feb 14 20:10:19 <g00s> the gradle plugin 2.3 has a better build cache to speed things up
Feb 14 20:25:39 <pfn> yes, go sucks
Feb 14 20:25:49 <pfn> it's only good because it's an easy language to learn
Feb 14 20:26:08 <pfn> ie commodity developers if you're only Looking for warm bodies
Feb 14 20:30:41 <gordon_> g00s: rust is nice
Feb 14 20:30:53 <gordon_> for bare metal.. you need to wait
Feb 14 20:31:32 <g00s> gordon_ have you seen https://blog.thiago.me/raspberry-pi-bare-metal-programming-with-rust/
Feb 14 20:32:43 <gordon_> I think I've seen something different
Feb 14 20:32:52 <gordon_> I like how you can write functional rust
Feb 14 20:33:03 <gordon_> and it's still zero cost abstraction
Feb 14 20:33:13 <gordon_> I will take a look later
Feb 14 20:33:23 <gordon_> bought old thinkpad x230 today
Feb 14 20:33:28 <pfn> rust is ok, needs more abstractions
Feb 14 20:33:29 <gordon_> that glorious feeling
Feb 14 20:36:47 <pfn> rust stdlib is pretty big, too
Feb 14 20:41:09 <gordon_> might be, didnt check
Feb 14 20:42:47 <g00s> you can use rust w/o the stdlib if you want
Feb 14 20:43:22 <g00s> i like the pay-as-you-go / zero cost abstractions approach they ttok
Feb 14 20:43:45 <gordon_> I wish that they would implement nicer lambda
Feb 14 20:43:49 <gordon_> like => or ->
Feb 14 20:44:14 <g00s> the syntax is kinda funky
Feb 14 20:44:23 <gordon_> or what ?
Feb 14 20:44:42 <gordon_> *of what
Feb 14 20:44:47 <gordon_> rust or closures in rust
Feb 14 20:45:06 <g00s> rust in general
Feb 14 20:45:14 <gordon_> it's nice I think
Feb 14 20:45:22 <gordon_> reminds me a little bit of C
Feb 14 20:45:33 <gordon_> but I've been playing with javascript and clojure lately
Feb 14 20:45:47 <gordon_> so you can say I'm used to weird syntax ;)
Feb 14 20:46:47 <g00s> gordon_ we have similar tastes :D
Feb 14 20:47:23 <g00s> i'm just interested in js because of electron, i wonder how long until we can use wasm for that (and any language) without transpiling
Feb 14 20:47:24 <gordon_>  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Feb 14 20:47:33 <gordon_> do not use electron
Feb 14 20:47:44 <g00s> llvm backend is getting wasm support
Feb 14 20:47:45 <gordon_> please, for the world's sake
Feb 14 20:47:49 <g00s> lol
Feb 14 20:48:03 <gordon_> there's libui, qt.. wxwidgets
Feb 14 20:48:16 <g00s> oh come on, wx seriously ...
Feb 14 20:48:19 <gordon_> many nice gui libs but.. you wanna use electron
Feb 14 20:48:27 <gordon_> wx uses native widgets
Feb 14 20:50:07 <gordon_> I'm sick of apps 150 mb in size and using 120 threads for chat messages
Feb 14 20:50:18 <gordon_> I look at you slack
Feb 14 20:50:56 <Dagmar> I wonder how long before ring drawables behave properly and break my layouts
Feb 14 20:51:34 <gordon_> anyone used bazel before ?
Feb 14 20:59:08 <viran> Hey, using a dialog fragment, is there a way to find out in run time the background color of the dialog?
Feb 14 21:15:00 <rubenwardy> What's the correct way to share data from a REST API between activities?
Feb 14 21:15:12 <rubenwardy> I currently have a singleton (which is an ugly thing to do)
Feb 14 21:19:39 <pfn> singleton is the only reasonable way to do it
Feb 14 21:22:06 <dragorn> the other option is to do the network io in a service and bind it from both to look at the data
Feb 14 21:23:16 <pfn> binding to services ftl
Feb 14 21:37:29 <Syzygy> I´m getting a CursorWindowAllocationException when accessing a foreign collection like this. for (ItemIdWrapper itemId : list.getItemIds()) where list is a table in my database and getItemIds returns a foreigncollection.
Feb 14 21:37:51 <Syzygy> CursorWindowAllocationException: Cursor window allocation of 2048 kb failed. # Open Cursors=751 (# cursors opened by this proc=751)
Feb 14 21:38:39 <Syzygy> Since I´m not using cursors directly I´m not entirely sure what´s going wrong here.
Feb 14 21:39:05 <viran> Hey, using a dialog fragment, is there a way to find out in run time the background color of the dialog?
Feb 14 21:39:09 <g00s> rubenwardy the data should go into a repository that all activities can see, whether its sqlite, cache, in-memory structures, or combination thereof
Feb 14 21:40:19 <g00s> rubenwardy also, if you bind to a service from an activity (bind in onStart, unBind in onStop), i'm pretty sure that going from Activity A to Activity B will cause 'handoff' of the service to shutdown and restart
Feb 14 21:41:09 <g00s> you might need to double check that though, maybe dragorn knows
Feb 14 21:45:20 <pfn> Syzygy, sounds like you're opening cursors and not closing them
Feb 14 21:45:31 <pfn> Syzygy, directly or indirectly, you are
Feb 14 21:46:00 <pfn> services won't shutdown and restart during "handoff" as long as the service was previously in a started state
Feb 14 21:46:06 <g00s> Syzygy when the window allocation failed it usually means an OOM situation, or the memory is too fragmented to enlarge it
Feb 14 21:46:21 <Syzygy> pfn, sure, but I´m under the impression that ormlite should take care of its own cursors.
Feb 14 21:46:38 <pfn> Syzygy, it likely does, but it likely requires you to do your own housekeeping as well
Feb 14 21:47:04 <g00s> pfn yeah, then you just have to manage overlapping service lifecycles - some might find it tricky
Feb 14 21:47:06 <Syzygy> brb, I think hexchat might need to be restarted to realize that I just changed some keyboard internatilization settings.
Feb 14 21:47:32 <pfn> the service lifecycle doesn't overlap
Feb 14 21:47:35 <pfn> it's already in a started state
Feb 14 21:47:40 <pfn> you only get an onBind
Feb 14 21:47:59 <pfn> still, not a preferred approach
Feb 14 21:48:25 <Syzygy> Odd that hexchat needs to restart for my changes to work.
Feb 14 21:48:37 <Syzygy> but it's working now :D
Feb 14 21:54:41 <g00s> Syzygy i think you'll see it again :(
Feb 14 21:56:08 <Syzygy> well, the android thing is still not working. Trying to find what housekeeping I have to do.
Feb 14 21:57:02 <Syzygy> also trying to get umlauts, but not accents working on my keyboard. At least the euro sign...
Feb 14 22:17:21 <Veruso> for some reason my tabs are not responding to clicks like in this http://i.imgur.com/qXtIShK.png
Feb 14 22:17:50 <Veruso> even though I have tabLayout.setupWithViewPager(viewPager);
Feb 14 22:22:29 <Syzygy> Veruso, that seems to be working correct judging from your screenshot.
Feb 14 22:25:32 <Veruso> That's a different application that I'm running
Feb 14 22:26:25 <Veruso> Syzygy, I can't find any differences between my code and the working example
Feb 14 22:27:21 <voider1> Hello people! I am a security researcher and I am trying to reverse engineer some Android malware and try to devise a method to cirvumvent the malware from damaging the device.
Feb 14 22:27:53 <voider1> I have a question about a piece of code I reverse engineered from the malware, could someone look at it?
Feb 14 22:28:46 <voider1> https://securify.nl/blog/SFY20170202/AV_evasion.png this piece of code, is it possible to stop the action from an external application?
Feb 14 22:33:49 <pfn> no
Feb 14 22:34:01 <pfn> replace HOME with your own application that is a no-op
Feb 14 22:35:59 <voider1> pfn: I have an app and I do not want it to do what that intent says it has to do, there is no way to do that?
Feb 14 22:36:05 <pfn> of course, you'll subsequently break the home key until you remove it
Feb 14 22:36:12 <pfn> no
Feb 14 22:36:20 <voider1> HMM>
Feb 14 22:36:24 <voider1> hmm*
Feb 14 22:36:31 <s73v3r> voider1: how would you know if it’s the system calling you, or a 3rd party?
Feb 14 22:37:01 <voider1> s73v3r: So that's what I'm trying to find out, I was already testing to see if there exists a difference, but AFAIK there isn't a noticeable difference...
Feb 14 22:37:36 <s73v3r> there isn’t. an intent is an intent is an intent
Feb 14 22:38:46 <voider1> Hmm.
Feb 14 22:39:05 <voider1> Isn't there a way to see where the Intent came from?
Feb 14 22:39:18 <pfn> no
Feb 14 22:39:29 <voider1> Can I check if the home button was really pressed?
Feb 14 22:39:37 <pfn> no
Feb 14 22:40:03 <voider1> Hmm.
Feb 14 22:41:29 <voider1> So there is no way for me to stop that intent from happening?
Feb 14 22:41:34 <s73v3r> nope
Feb 14 22:42:15 <voider1> It'd be easy if I could say to my app: "If the Intent comes from X app, don't respond"
Feb 14 22:42:43 <s73v3r> but that would be contrary to the intent system
Feb 14 22:42:59 <s73v3r> especially if you’re talking about intents sent from the system
Feb 14 22:43:00 <voider1> Why?
Feb 14 22:43:23 <voider1> But this Intent is fired by an app right?
Feb 14 22:43:33 <s73v3r> all intents are fired by an app
Feb 14 22:43:38 <s73v3r> the Launcher is also just an app
Feb 14 22:43:41 <voider1> The annoying thing is.
Feb 14 22:43:48 <voider1> This malware can just close any application it likes.
Feb 14 22:44:17 <Veruso> the best anti-malware is common sense
Feb 14 22:44:20 <Thorbear> This all sounds like a strange approach though. Why not take a leaf from the malware book, check if the malware is running and kill its process? Assuming the AV app has permissions to do so.
Feb 14 22:44:54 <s73v3r> how do you know what malware is
Feb 14 22:44:58 <voider1> Veruso: Sadly, most non-tech savy Android users do not have that and need protection from themselves.
Feb 14 22:45:51 <voider1> Thorbear: Banking apps and such do not have this permission and they want to protect themselves from these things, they do not have time to wait on Google to finally patch something in the system that makes the malware obsolete.
Feb 14 22:46:13 <voider1> s73v3r: I reverse engineered it, and from the looks of it, it is malware.
Feb 14 22:46:33 <s73v3r> i mean, a banking app should probably not be responding to intents besides Launch, anyway
Feb 14 22:46:54 <Veruso> It seems my problem is still persisting... Pressing tabs in my fragment does not do anything to the ViewPagerAdapter
Feb 14 22:47:10 <voider1> s73v3r: So I can make an app so that it will not respond to that Intent?
Feb 14 22:47:33 <s73v3r> to the launch intent? I suppose you could, but then no one could ever run your app
Feb 14 22:47:56 <voider1> To the HOME thing.
Feb 14 22:48:02 <s73v3r> are you a launcher?
Feb 14 22:48:27 <voider1> That differs from app to app, this is not a one-time solution.
Feb 14 22:48:32 <voider1> not going to be*
Feb 14 22:48:36 <Thorbear> Why is the home-intent of interest if you're a banking app? Does the malware simply close the banking app?
Feb 14 22:48:42 <voider1> It could.
Feb 14 22:48:48 <voider1> It could close any app.
Feb 14 22:48:58 <Thorbear> Why is that a concern?
Feb 14 22:49:01 <pfn> it can't "close" apps
Feb 14 22:49:09 <pfn> it can only bring the launcher forward
Feb 14 22:49:11 <s73v3r> voider1: If you’re not a launcher, then you shouldn’t be responding to the HOME intent in the first place
Feb 14 22:49:12 <pfn> you can always go back
Feb 14 22:49:15 <pfn> of course, that's annoying
Feb 14 22:49:39 <pfn> especially if the "malware" is doing something like 'while (true) { startActivity(launcher) }'
Feb 14 22:53:14 <Thorbear> voider1: So it's a malware that prevents a certain app from opening, and the app in question wants to be opened anyway?
Feb 14 22:54:08 <voider1> So I've skimmed through the reverse engineered code (I'm working on this like, since yesterday) and this specific part is for when you open an AV app, it will return to home screen.
Feb 14 22:54:30 <s73v3r> so what
Feb 14 22:54:44 <voider1> So the problem is, the AV app will ask permission from the user to remove the malware.
Feb 14 22:55:00 <voider1> But since you cannot ever open the AV app you cannot give permission to remove the malware.
Feb 14 22:56:32 <voider1> See the problem?
Feb 14 22:56:45 <s73v3r> and you’re the maker of the AV app?
Feb 14 22:56:49 <voider1> No.
Feb 14 22:56:52 <voider1> I'm a security researcher.
Feb 14 22:57:33 <pfn> the solution would be for the AV app to operate through notifications
Feb 14 22:57:39 <pfn> rather than having to open an AV app to do work
Feb 14 22:57:43 <voider1> Hmm.
Feb 14 22:57:46 <voider1> That could work.
Feb 14 22:57:47 <voider1> I think?
Feb 14 22:57:49 <pfn> Notification: "Malware has been detected, remove it?"
Feb 14 22:57:51 <voider1> It doesn't block those.
Feb 14 22:57:58 <voider1> Cool.
Feb 14 22:57:58 <voider1> =)
Feb 14 22:58:28 <pfn> notification's action intent can be to launch the uninstall screen for that app, assuming there's such a thing
Feb 14 22:59:19 <voider1> That seems like something that could work.
Feb 14 22:59:25 <voider1> It doesn't seem like the malware can block that.
Feb 14 22:59:33 <voider1> From what I have seen.
Feb 14 23:00:15 <voider1> Thank you pfn, I'm off, going to sleep. See ya.
Feb 14 23:00:42 <voider1> I'll maybe come back for some more questions tomorrow, if you do not mind.
Feb 14 23:00:45 <voider1> Or you guys.
Feb 14 23:00:45 <voider1> xD
Feb 14 23:00:49 <voider1> Nn
Feb 14 23:00:51 <pfn> don't forget to send me money
Feb 14 23:01:01 <voider1> This conversation never happened. ;)
Feb 15 00:00:54 <s73v3r> TextInputLayout has a character counter that can be enabled. However, it doesn’t appear to do anything other than change style when that counter is tripped
Feb 15 00:05:07 <s73v3r> So right now, I can go over the limit all I want, and I don’t appear to get any notice
Feb 15 00:19:31 <pfn> what do you want to do
Feb 15 00:19:34 <pfn> set a max length on the textview
Feb 15 00:26:38 <s73v3r> Yeah, that’s what I did. I was hoping that some kind of error or something i could check would get thrown
Feb 15 00:26:55 <s73v3r> Although now I have a slightly different problem. When it overflows, the highlight color turns purple
Feb 15 00:27:11 <s73v3r> and I can’t see where that color gets set
Feb 15 00:30:24 <s73v3r> and why in the holy hell is android studio not able to get horizontal scroll bars right? Why is it so hard to display one?
Feb 15 00:39:40 <Astlan> Hi. Can anyone tell me if I need to know Java if I want to develop a Qt app for Android? I ask this because I only do not know Java (only C++ and Python)
Feb 15 00:41:43 <s73v3r> you’d probably benefit from knowing some, as, despite the path you want to go down, Java is still the lingua franca of Android
Feb 15 00:46:24 <bankai_> awww is qt making a come back?
Feb 15 01:04:37 <s73v3r> how does maxLines actually work?
Feb 15 01:07:30 <Astlan> s73v3r: I understand that, thing is I was just looking for the fastest way to develop a simple app knowing only C++ and python, without having to learn a new language... It's for a minor school project, so it doesn't need to be super fancy
Feb 15 01:07:58 <s73v3r> honestly, you’re still probably going to be faster doing it the way Google intended
Feb 15 01:08:13 <s73v3r> If you know C++, you can pick up Java no problem
Feb 15 01:11:54 <Astlan> s73v3r: How thanks for the input :). I was even thinking of using "Kivy", do you have anything to say about it?
Feb 15 01:12:42 <s73v3r> never heard of it
Feb 15 01:19:27 <Astlan> s73v3r: Ok, thanks for the input ;)
Feb 15 01:39:06 <Tricknology> Throwing OutOfMemoryError "Failed to allocate a 64 byte allocation with 0 free bytes and 0B until OOM" - Fun
Feb 15 01:39:40 <Tricknology> Even more fun:
Feb 15 01:39:41 <Tricknology> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: OutOfMemoryError thrown while trying to throw OutOfMemoryError; no stack available
Feb 15 01:54:10 <Syzygy> I'm trying to send an ormlite object over the network via retrofit2, but apparently that leaks cursors when executing the rest call, at least according to strict mode and the fact that it crashes. Here's the code. https://gist.github.com/Syzygy2048/ddd06d0860e278ced48651006093e3fc
Feb 15 01:54:28 <Syzygy> Any idea what I can do to close the cursors when the call finishes?
Feb 15 02:26:09 <mrandroid> Syzygy: ormlite isn't your best bet for ORM on Android. It's very heavy.
Feb 15 02:26:24 <mrandroid> and some bugs you'll see are more related to the desktop than for mobile.
Feb 15 02:43:02 <g00s> Syzygy_ if you don't want to deal with sqlite directly, maybe try realm
Feb 15 02:43:51 <Syzygy_> unfotunately it's a bit late for this project. maybe next time.
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