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Nov 01 09:36:25 <lord-carlos> morning
Nov 01 09:36:31 <lord-carlos> is there no way to get the shop work?
Nov 01 09:37:08 <lord-carlos> shop == Android Market
Nov 01 09:42:48 <sanvy> hi all
Nov 01 09:43:55 <lord-carlos> high
Nov 01 09:48:42 <serdar_> hi
Nov 01 09:52:09 <sanvy> hi
Nov 01 09:55:11 <sanvy> can anyone tell me how to mount yaffs2 image please?
Nov 01 10:01:35 <sanvy> i have to go
Nov 01 10:01:36 <sanvy> bye
Nov 01 10:10:05 <serdar_> hi panicking
Nov 01 10:10:40 <panicking> Hi
Nov 01 10:10:41 <serdar_> I guess I need an rss feed of gitorious
Nov 01 10:10:56 <serdar_> you didn't told me, that you commited the vibrator patch
Nov 01 10:13:00 <serdar_> If a previously add a patch and you commit it, we will get sync errors while compileing daily
Nov 01 10:15:15 <panicking> sorry
Nov 01 10:21:12 <serdar_> panicking, can you change this Len Brown stuff, he is always in front.
Nov 01 10:21:17 <serdar_> change the date will help
Nov 01 10:21:31 <serdar_> it's dated in the future
Nov 01 11:01:23 <panicking> what is the len Broiwn stuff
Nov 01 11:01:26 <panicking> sorry
Nov 01 11:16:57 <serdar_> useing akregator now.
Nov 01 12:09:19 <sanvy> hi all
Nov 01 12:12:37 <sanvy> serdar_, pin
Nov 01 12:12:38 <sanvy> ping*
Nov 01 12:16:28 <serdar_> pong
Nov 01 12:19:35 <sanvy> hi serdar_
Nov 01 12:19:36 <sanvy> sorry
Nov 01 12:19:43 <sanvy> i want to know
Nov 01 12:19:54 <sanvy> if it's possible to run android in root mode
Nov 01 12:19:57 <sanvy> on freerunner
Nov 01 12:22:00 <serdar_> hm
Nov 01 12:22:07 <serdar_> what will you do?
Nov 01 12:32:26 <sanvy> I want to test some apps that need root acces
Nov 01 12:32:38 <sanvy> and also I am working on how to update android
Nov 01 12:32:42 <sanvy> without reflashing it
Nov 01 12:33:12 <sanvy> I want also to work on this with some developer, because i'm having some problem
Nov 01 12:33:23 <sanvy> for example, mounting yaffs2 images :|
Nov 01 12:33:35 <sanvy> sorry serdar_ I have to go for few times
Nov 01 12:33:39 <sanvy> see you later
Nov 01 12:33:40 <sanvy> bye
Nov 01 12:34:41 <lord-carlos> serdar_: do you know when and2moko will be upgraded to Donut?
Nov 01 12:35:14 <serdar_> lord-carlos, nope
Nov 01 12:35:33 <serdar_> we will switch to eclair if we got cupcake stable.
Nov 01 12:36:08 <lord-carlos> i know .. but when is cupcake stable? :D
Nov 01 12:36:37 <lord-carlos> if every issue is fixed?
Nov 01 12:37:25 <lord-carlos> and is there a way to select USB host mode?
Nov 01 12:38:08 <serdar_> what do you mean?
Nov 01 12:40:18 <lord-carlos> the Moko has an USB host controler, so you can use an USB stick. In an other Moko distro it was posible to switch between host and device mode for the USB
Nov 01 12:42:57 <serdar_> I guess it's not possible atm.
Nov 01 12:44:17 <lord-carlos> is it posible to sync the default calender with google calender?
Nov 01 12:44:41 <serdar_> I don't think so.
Nov 01 12:45:29 <lord-carlos> ok thanks
Nov 01 13:48:02 <lord-carlos> every time i connect to an open Network i dont get any IP
Nov 01 13:49:24 <lord-carlos> i did only work one time .. dunno why it's not working now
Nov 01 14:01:33 <serdar_> hm interesting
Nov 01 14:05:20 <sanvy> i'm back serdar_
Nov 01 14:06:36 <lord-carlos> serdar_: does your wifi work?
Nov 01 14:11:22 <pbaxter> hiya all
Nov 01 14:12:52 <sanvy> hi pbaxter
Nov 01 14:14:11 <serdar_> lord-carlos, which distribution are you useing?
Nov 01 14:16:30 <lord-carlos> android-on-freerunner-cupcake-week-2009-44.tar.gz
Nov 01 14:16:48 <serdar_> lord-carlos, please use the daily
Nov 01 14:19:21 <lord-carlos> serdar_: if i install the daily, will all my installed programmes get lost?
Nov 01 14:19:33 <lord-carlos> and where do i get the daily?
Nov 01 14:19:39 <sanvy> serdar_, sorry, what issues are solved in latest daily that older weekly had?
Nov 01 14:23:57 <serdar_>  /topic
Nov 01 14:24:15 <serdar_> and yes it will be lost.
Nov 01 14:24:15 <sanvy> on issues?
Nov 01 14:24:28 * sanvy delete last message
Nov 01 14:25:08 <lord-carlos> serdar_: so in the last 6 days there where some wifi changes?
Nov 01 14:25:28 <serdar_> http://dpaste.com/114996/
Nov 01 14:25:49 <sanvy> :P
Nov 01 14:25:55 <sanvy> thanks
Nov 01 14:27:00 <serdar_> http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=21&can=1
Nov 01 14:28:14 <serdar_> I will try to get some information about the keyboard, it's pretty slow.
Nov 01 14:29:51 <sanvy> serdar_, sorry, before can I talk with you about some important things ?
Nov 01 14:30:10 <serdar_> important things?
Nov 01 14:30:23 <sanvy> yes
Nov 01 14:30:45 <sanvy> for eg. updating without reflash, or sensors improvement....
Nov 01 14:30:48 <sanvy> and root acces :P
Nov 01 14:32:02 <sanvy> expecially I think that the most important issues are first and latest
Nov 01 14:32:03 <serdar_> updateing without reflash isn't an option yet. maybe in the future.
Nov 01 14:32:22 <sanvy> this is why I want to talk about with you
Nov 01 14:32:47 <serdar_> improveing sensors should be an issue.
Nov 01 14:33:00 <serdar_> but sensors is minor
Nov 01 14:33:03 <serdar_> really minor.
Nov 01 14:33:14 <serdar_> we need to improve some usability first
Nov 01 14:33:22 <sanvy> yes, I'm according to you
Nov 01 14:33:29 <serdar_> keyboard is much mor needed than sensors.
Nov 01 14:33:32 <serdar_> more
Nov 01 14:33:33 <sanvy> yes
Nov 01 14:33:36 <sanvy> but the root access?
Nov 01 14:33:46 <sanvy> is needed for important things
Nov 01 14:33:47 <serdar_> this is a android design
Nov 01 14:33:57 <serdar_> like closeing apps.
Nov 01 14:34:12 <serdar_> but there exist a rooted android app iirc
Nov 01 14:34:21 <sanvy> ?
Nov 01 14:34:28 <serdar_> but why can't you use shell?
Nov 01 14:34:35 <sanvy> kb
Nov 01 14:34:38 <sanvy> i think
Nov 01 14:35:13 <serdar_> kb?
Nov 01 14:35:19 <sanvy> keyboard
Nov 01 14:35:32 <serdar_> via adb
Nov 01 14:35:39 <sanvy> sorry, is the git in the topic where you are working?
Nov 01 14:35:46 <sanvy> via adb works all, i think
Nov 01 14:35:52 <sanvy> it isn't so?
Nov 01 14:36:30 <serdar_> I can#t work with the git, I only can pull it
Nov 01 14:36:54 <sanvy> ok, i mean: the git in topic has the latest fixes?
Nov 01 14:43:51 * sanvy is syncing repo
Nov 01 14:45:53 <serdar_> most of time, yes.
Nov 01 14:47:37 <sanvy> ok thanks
Nov 01 14:48:07 <sanvy> I also will try to edit some things in order to make it more usable
Nov 01 15:33:55 <serdar_> hi larlin
Nov 01 15:34:02 <larlin> hello
Nov 01 16:14:56 <sanvy> serdar_, ping
Nov 01 16:15:34 <sanvy> i think i found smth about keyboard
Nov 01 16:16:24 <sanvy> but i'm not sure
Nov 01 16:17:23 <sanvy> <dimen name="key_height">50dip</dimen>
Nov 01 16:17:27 <sanvy> could be this?
Nov 01 16:20:25 <sanvy> serdar_, ?
Nov 01 16:23:32 <sanvy> serdar__, ping
Nov 01 16:29:03 <serdar__> pong
Nov 01 16:29:57 <sanvy> thanks
Nov 01 16:30:04 <sanvy> serdar__, I find this file
Nov 01 16:30:05 <sanvy>     <dimen name="key_height">50dip</dimen>
Nov 01 16:30:07 <sanvy> sorry
Nov 01 16:30:21 <sanvy> this line in dimens.xml file of keyboard layout
Nov 01 16:30:37 <sanvy> but i don't understand if this is the real size of keyboard
Nov 01 16:30:46 <serdar__> hmm no idea
Nov 01 16:30:57 <sanvy> how do you resize the keyboard?
Nov 01 16:31:14 <serdar__> I have no idea, I am not a developer you know.
Nov 01 16:31:20 <sanvy> oh sorry
Nov 01 16:32:10 <sanvy> so... can you compile for me android with some files i'll give you? my compile machine doesn't work -.-
Nov 01 18:02:58 <serdar> hi
Nov 01 18:03:11 <sanvy> hi serdar
Nov 01 18:03:17 <sanvy> serdar, i'm working on theme
Nov 01 18:03:50 <serdar> live migration on vm's
Nov 01 18:10:01 <sanvy> serdar, sorry, if I give you some patched files of android source, can you compile it for me?
Nov 01 18:10:07 <sanvy> i'm editing the git...
Nov 01 18:10:27 <sanvy> i know it's a bad request, but i can't compile it
Nov 01 18:10:41 <sanvy> my compiling machine is down and this pc is not able to compile android
Nov 01 18:10:49 <sanvy> it fails even if the source is right
Nov 01 18:14:13 <serdar> what patches?
Nov 01 18:14:26 <serdar> make an RFC patch and send it to the mailing list.
Nov 01 18:15:26 <pbaxter> serdar: what's RFC patch?
Nov 01 18:15:42 <serdar> request for comment
Nov 01 18:21:25 <sanvy> rfc???
Nov 01 18:21:41 <sanvy> no you misunderstood me
Nov 01 18:22:05 <sanvy> sanvy's patch=simply changes to xml
Nov 01 18:22:05 <sanvy> :D
Nov 01 18:22:08 <sanvy> or images
Nov 01 18:25:30 <serdar> if I make any changes it will have effect to the weekly.
Nov 01 18:25:53 <serdar> so you better make a rfc patch so we can talk about
Nov 01 18:26:30 <sanvy> i've yet edit online GIT
Nov 01 18:26:35 <sanvy> only my local git
Nov 01 18:26:50 <sanvy> and there are only few changes
Nov 01 18:27:11 <pbaxter> sanvy: build it on your pc
Nov 01 18:27:14 <sanvy> i should to try the new keyboard.xml
Nov 01 18:27:18 <sanvy> pbaxter, read before
Nov 01 18:27:25 <sanvy> my pc is not able to build it
Nov 01 18:27:33 <serdar> glibc and gcc?
Nov 01 18:27:47 <sanvy> i installed it all
Nov 01 18:27:50 <sanvy> the problem is
Nov 01 18:27:53 <sanvy> that i start to compile
Nov 01 18:27:58 <sanvy> it compiles for many times
Nov 01 18:28:07 <serdar> no tell me your gcc and glibc version!
Nov 01 18:28:08 <sanvy> then, at browser compilation it stop
Nov 01 18:28:09 <sanvy> :\
Nov 01 18:28:10 <sanvy> ok
Nov 01 18:28:11 <sanvy> sorry
Nov 01 18:28:12 <sanvy> :D
Nov 01 18:28:32 <sanvy> gcc 4.3.3
Nov 01 18:28:33 <serdar> or better, which distribution?
Nov 01 18:28:58 <sanvy> ubuntu 9.04
Nov 01 18:28:58 <serdar> complete gcc -v please
Nov 01 18:29:02 <serdar> ah oka
Nov 01 18:29:03 <serdar> y
Nov 01 18:29:09 <sanvy> # gcc -v
Nov 01 18:29:09 <sanvy> Using built-in specs.
Nov 01 18:29:09 <sanvy> Target: i486-linux-gnu
Nov 01 18:29:09 <sanvy> Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.3/README.Bugs --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.3 --program-suffix=-4.3 --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-
Nov 01 18:29:11 <sanvy> debug --enable-objc-gc --enable-mpfr --enable-targets=all --with-tune=generic --enable-checking=release --build=i486-linux-gnu --host=i486-linux-gnu --target=i486-linux-gnu
Nov 01 18:29:14 <sanvy> Thread model: posix
Nov 01 18:29:16 <sanvy> gcc version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4)
Nov 01 18:29:17 <serdar> you can compile with ubuntu 904
Nov 01 18:29:23 <serdar> but not with 910
Nov 01 18:29:33 <sanvy> i have only .04 :D
Nov 01 18:29:40 <sanvy> why no with .10?
Nov 01 18:29:55 <serdar> because of the toolchain
Nov 01 18:30:01 <serdar> gcc 4.4 and glibc 2.10
Nov 01 18:30:07 <serdar> I can't compile anymore
Nov 01 18:30:11 <sanvy> ok
Nov 01 18:30:36 <serdar> I am useing karmic since last week
Nov 01 18:30:44 <sanvy> karmic?
Nov 01 18:30:53 <serdar> yes
Nov 01 18:30:59 <serdar> and now I can't compile anymore
Nov 01 18:31:55 <sanvy> oh
Nov 01 18:31:55 <sanvy> ok
Nov 01 18:32:04 <sanvy> so... who compiles daily now?
Nov 01 18:32:06 <sanvy> or weekly?
Nov 01 18:32:11 <serdar> I do
Nov 01 18:32:30 <sanvy> :\
Nov 01 18:32:31 <sanvy> k
Nov 01 18:32:53 <serdar> the next release will be in 5h
Nov 01 18:33:01 <serdar> I am useing a cronjob for this.
Nov 01 18:33:25 <serdar> nslu2-log, ping?
Nov 01 18:33:39 <serdar> jancona, is nslu2-log the bot?
Nov 01 18:36:43 <sanvy> ok i finished my mods
Nov 01 18:37:47 <sanvy> serdar, how many time needs the compilation?
Nov 01 18:38:13 <serdar> few hours
Nov 01 18:38:22 <serdar> I cleaned the cache for the weekly
Nov 01 18:38:40 <serdar> it will start at 00:01 and stop ~04:00 CEST
Nov 01 18:39:10 <sanvy> :\
Nov 01 18:39:12 <sanvy> ok
Nov 01 18:39:18 <sanvy> thanks
Nov 01 18:40:09 <sanvy> and if i stop while he is compiling, then if i restart it redo all by first or it search latest point?
Nov 01 18:43:07 <serdar> it's a makfile
Nov 01 18:43:13 <serdar> it behaves like a makefile.
Nov 01 18:44:33 <sanvy> ok
Nov 01 18:44:36 <sanvy> so...?? :D
Nov 01 18:44:55 <sanvy> :P :P my compilation machine seems working :PPPp
Nov 01 18:45:08 <sanvy> so it was the power supply the real problem
Nov 01 18:45:10 <sanvy> not the mobo
Nov 01 18:45:11 <sanvy> :Pp
Nov 01 18:52:18 <sanvy> serdar, in order to compile android, what have i to do?
Nov 01 18:52:21 <sanvy> make?
Nov 01 18:52:31 <sanvy> or make target=freerunner?
Nov 01 18:53:03 <serdar> make TARGET_PRODUCT=freerunner
Nov 01 18:53:07 <sanvy> okk thank
Nov 01 18:53:08 <serdar> how many cores?
Nov 01 18:53:37 <sanvy> :D
Nov 01 18:53:40 <sanvy> 1, pentium 3
Nov 01 18:53:41 <sanvy> :D
Nov 01 18:54:11 <sanvy> please, don't laugh
Nov 01 18:54:26 <sanvy> it's my nice little server
Nov 01 18:54:31 <sanvy> only 50W
Nov 01 18:56:15 <serdar> oO
Nov 01 18:56:53 <sanvy> ?
Nov 01 18:57:52 <sanvy> i now, it's not so powerful, but my own money allow only this
Nov 01 18:57:52 <sanvy> :D
Nov 01 19:06:54 <sanvy> fsck...
Nov 01 19:12:54 <pbaxter> sanvy: are you compiling?
Nov 01 19:16:29 <sanvy> well it started now
Nov 01 19:16:29 <sanvy> :P
Nov 01 19:16:30 <sanvy> :P
Nov 01 19:16:31 <sanvy> :p
Nov 01 19:16:48 <sanvy> tomorrow morning i think we'll have a relase :D
Nov 01 19:16:50 <sanvy> but... serdar
Nov 01 19:17:02 <sanvy> when I compile, it make me 3 images, right?
Nov 01 19:17:06 <pbaxter> sanvy: but which are you changes?
Nov 01 19:17:36 <sanvy> i changed some images
Nov 01 19:17:39 <serdar> look in out
Nov 01 19:17:39 <sanvy> and some xml
Nov 01 19:17:45 <sanvy> yes serdar i know
Nov 01 19:18:00 <sanvy> but i don't remember if i have to make an image or if he do it
Nov 01 19:18:19 <sanvy> pbaxter, I think to have made the kb bigger and the top bar bigger
Nov 01 19:18:23 <sanvy> but i'm not sure
Nov 01 19:18:54 <serdar> kb bigger?
Nov 01 19:18:59 <serdar> re you mad?
Nov 01 19:19:01 <serdar> are
Nov 01 19:19:11 <sanvy> mad?
Nov 01 19:19:38 <sanvy> why?
Nov 01 19:19:43 <serdar> the kb is really slow and making him bigger will not have a good effect.
Nov 01 19:19:48 <sanvy> it's difficult tu use it with fingers
Nov 01 19:19:49 <sanvy> oh
Nov 01 19:19:50 <sanvy> mm
Nov 01 19:19:56 <sanvy> i didn't think this :\
Nov 01 19:20:07 <sanvy> vabbè, it's not so slow......
Nov 01 19:20:08 <sanvy> D:
Nov 01 19:20:15 <serdar> try it.
Nov 01 19:20:23 <sanvy> i'll try as soon
Nov 01 19:21:00 <sanvy> what about if we remove the animation?
Nov 01 19:21:16 <serdar> I would try to change the kb.
Nov 01 19:21:29 <sanvy> ok, but a lot of software kb doesn't work
Nov 01 19:21:31 <serdar> not removeing, but disable.
Nov 01 19:21:43 <sanvy> yes, disable
Nov 01 19:23:10 <pbaxter> sanvy: disable the keyboard animation...we don't need them
Nov 01 19:24:33 <sanvy> yes
Nov 01 19:24:39 <sanvy> i've understand, thank pbaxter :D
Nov 01 19:24:49 <sanvy> but... how? from code or from settings?
Nov 01 19:25:48 <pbaxter> sanvy: code of kb if you know
Nov 01 19:26:01 <sanvy> i'm looking into xmls
Nov 01 19:29:15 <pbaxter> sanvy: but can you also change audio and turn up the volume in xmls?
Nov 01 19:29:32 <sanvy> i don't know
Nov 01 19:29:41 <sanvy> maybe... but i don't know how to put my hands
Nov 01 19:31:12 <pbaxter> sanvy: don't think you are, know you are
Nov 01 19:31:29 <sanvy> ???
Nov 01 19:31:42 <serdar_> you can disable that from the settings
Nov 01 19:32:04 <pbaxter> sanvy: it's a matrix quotation
Nov 01 19:32:30 <sanvy> oh
Nov 01 19:32:31 <sanvy> lol
Nov 01 19:32:36 <sanvy> ok serdar
Nov 01 19:32:39 <sanvy> ok serdar_ *
Nov 01 19:32:44 <sanvy> i have dinner now
Nov 01 19:32:46 <sanvy> see you later
Nov 01 19:32:50 <pbaxter> cya sanvy
Nov 01 19:32:58 <sanvy> ciao
Nov 01 19:34:00 <serdar> you can disable that from the settings
Nov 01 20:30:38 <panicking> Hi serdar__ jancona
Nov 01 20:30:43 <panicking> this is out of any topic
Nov 01 20:30:52 <panicking> but is it possible to add a link to my web site
Nov 01 20:30:59 <panicking> on the main page of the project
Nov 01 20:31:05 <panicking> like koolu
Nov 01 20:31:06 <panicking> :)
Nov 01 20:31:59 <serdar__>  /tpoic
Nov 01 20:32:04 <serdar__>  /topic
Nov 01 20:32:33 <panicking> ok
Nov 01 20:32:48 <panicking> Anyone has tested the frequency scale
Nov 01 20:32:49 <panicking> ?
Nov 01 20:32:53 <panicking> I'm using it
Nov 01 20:33:09 <panicking> I don't know if it's usefull to create a branch
Nov 01 20:33:12 <panicking> on the kernel
Nov 01 20:33:17 <panicking> to add the cpufreq support
Nov 01 20:33:27 <panicking> maybe it can increase the battery life
Nov 01 20:36:07 <serdar_> hmm if you got patches I can add them for the weekly
Nov 01 20:36:58 <serdar_> btw. I tested keyboard with wifi. is it only slow for me?
Nov 01 20:37:06 <serdar_> http://codepad.org/K7DxuviO
Nov 01 20:38:47 <serdar_> you can see there that if you disable-enable the wifi you get an eth1 error
Nov 01 20:39:15 <serdar_> like in line 9
Nov 01 20:40:30 <serdar_> the keyboard is really slow
Nov 01 20:42:13 <panicking> The error is correct because
Nov 01 20:42:18 <panicking> we shutdown the wifi
Nov 01 20:42:21 <panicking> and it takes time
Nov 01 20:42:22 <serdar_> W/InputConnectionWrapper.ICC( 1028): Timed out waiting on IInputContextCallback
Nov 01 20:42:22 <serdar_> I/InputConnectionWrapper.ICC( 1028): Got out-of-sequence callback 85 (expected 86) in setTextBeforeCursor, ignoring.
Nov 01 20:42:24 <panicking> to re-enable
Nov 01 20:42:29 <serdar_> hm
Nov 01 20:42:49 <serdar_> the keyboard behaves really slow
Nov 01 20:43:01 <serdar_> and it's not finger friendly
Nov 01 20:44:03 <panicking> yes I know
Nov 01 20:44:17 <panicking> Using top
Nov 01 20:44:31 <panicking> you can notice that there somenthig strange
Nov 01 20:44:39 <serdar_> can we change the keyboard?
Nov 01 20:44:42 <panicking> It starts to consume a lot of computation time
Nov 01 20:44:44 <panicking> I think
Nov 01 20:44:49 <panicking> that it's only related
Nov 01 20:44:52 <panicking> to that window
Nov 01 20:44:57 <panicking> wifi and bluetooth
Nov 01 20:45:01 <panicking> in other window
Nov 01 20:45:04 <panicking> is quite good
Nov 01 20:45:05 <panicking> or no?
Nov 01 20:45:07 <serdar_> hmm
Nov 01 20:45:26 <panicking> before I would like to investigate
Nov 01 20:45:27 <serdar_> no idea, I don't know where I need the keybord in this state of android
Nov 01 20:45:28 <panicking> this issue
Nov 01 20:45:59 <serdar_> btw. what do you think of switching directly to eclair after we got cupcake stable?
Nov 01 21:03:36 <panicking> I think that we can start to evaluate it on the freerunner
Nov 01 21:03:42 <panicking> maybe it can be to slow
Nov 01 21:03:46 <panicking> for our device
Nov 01 21:03:51 <panicking> I think that cupcake
Nov 01 21:04:04 <panicking> is quite really beatiful distrib on this mobile
Nov 01 21:12:31 <raph_ael> the best i tried for the moment
Nov 01 22:19:27 <sanvy_cena> i'm bac
Nov 01 22:25:33 <sanvy_cena> i go
Nov 01 22:25:37 <sanvy_cena> good night all
Nov 01 22:25:47 <sanvy_cena> serdar_, tomorrow we'll see my changes :D
Nov 01 22:25:50 <sanvy_cena> bye
Nov 01 22:41:35 <pbaxter> bye all
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