**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 04 02:59:57 2009
Nov 04 07:48:02 <mvzaanen> Morning
Nov 04 09:04:58 <serdar__> morning
Nov 04 09:30:03 <dom___> Moin!
Nov 04 09:31:49 <dom___> I'm triying to install android on a GTA02 and strictly followed the instruction on the wiki (http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/GetIt) ... but u-boot just throws me a "bad magic number" error and jumps back to the boot menu
Nov 04 09:34:49 <dom___> I'm not sure, could this be a problem with an incompatible ds-card?
Nov 04 09:36:32 <dom___> Although a SanDisk 512MB should be supported guessing from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards
Nov 04 09:38:34 <serdar_> aloah
Nov 04 09:46:28 <dom___> Mhh, reading a bit more, i also get:
Nov 04 09:46:34 <dom___> 0 byte read
Nov 04 09:46:42 <dom___> #booting image at 3200000...
Nov 04 09:47:24 <dom___> and then the magic number errror ... there are some informations in front of that but it seems it's just some sd card infos
Nov 04 09:47:29 <dom___> vendor  etc.
Nov 04 09:59:09 <serdar_> what was you trying? which image?
Nov 04 09:59:43 <serdar_> ubuntu member AND kde developer??
Nov 04 10:01:14 <dom___> serdar_: android-on-freerunner-cupcake-0.1.1.tar.gz
Nov 04 10:01:43 <serdar_> OLD
Nov 04 10:01:49 <dom___> serdar_: Could it be that the problem is that my u-boot can't boot kernel bugger than 2.2MB?
Nov 04 10:01:57 <dom___> *mrg* bigger than 2MB
Nov 04 10:02:09 <dom___> So, i should take the weekly build?
Nov 04 10:02:36 <serdar_> yes
Nov 04 10:02:38 <serdar_> or daily
Nov 04 10:03:30 <dom___> Is there still a problem with the size limitation of u-boot or can i just ignore that?
Nov 04 10:05:07 <serdar_> we are useing qi
Nov 04 10:13:17 <serdar_> wtf?
Nov 04 10:14:58 <dom___> serdar_: Okay, thanks! It's running with the weekly build
Nov 04 10:16:20 <serdar_> hmm
Nov 04 10:16:49 <Serdar> Tm_T, ping?
Nov 04 10:18:22 <Serdar> hmm
Nov 04 10:18:59 <Serdar> Tm_T, ping?
Nov 04 10:20:54 <Serdar> hmm where is Chanserv?
Nov 04 10:37:09 <Serdar> ohoh
Nov 04 10:37:50 <Serdar> I guess I've done somthing wrong.
Nov 04 11:22:33 <Serdar> hi panicking
Nov 04 11:24:33 <Serdar> how can I recognise an IRCop?
Nov 04 11:24:48 <Kottizen> They have voice (+v) in #Freenode.
Nov 04 11:25:13 <Serdar> I see, a lot of people
Nov 04 11:25:16 <Kottizen> Yes.
Nov 04 11:25:21 <Kottizen> Ask some of them. :D
Nov 04 11:25:23 <Kottizen> i=yaakov@freenode/staff/p3m.yaakov
Nov 04 11:25:30 <Kottizen> Then also have "freenode/staff/*" in their /whois.
Nov 04 11:25:52 <Kottizen> The best thing would be to ask in #Freenode, then all IRCops will see it.
Nov 04 11:29:00 <Kottizen> Serdar: Or, you can have your channel at KottNet. :D
Nov 04 11:29:05 <Kottizen> Serdar: http://kottnet.homelinux.net
Nov 04 11:29:51 <Kottizen> Serdar: KottNet have better IRCops that understand peoples problem and they're more friendly too. ;D
Nov 04 11:31:59 <Serdar> the problem is, that these people are here since then it will be difficult to switch now, so we will be here I guess.
Nov 04 11:32:29 <Kottizen> Okey.
Nov 04 12:11:27 <Serdar> jancona, ping?
Nov 04 13:17:26 <Serdar> hi larlin
Nov 04 13:18:34 <larlin> Serdar, hello
Nov 04 13:24:16 <Serdar> larlin, we got problems.
Nov 04 13:24:36 <larlin> okej?
Nov 04 13:25:37 <Serdar> and2moko isn't registered anymore.
Nov 04 13:25:57 <larlin> humm you know why?
Nov 04 13:26:03 <Serdar> yes.
Nov 04 13:26:13 <Serdar> it's the freenode policy
Nov 04 13:26:26 <larlin> which is?
Nov 04 13:27:44 <Serdar> if you don't have rights on names you can't use #.
Nov 04 13:28:16 <Serdar> you need to sign a group contract and proove you have rights on names in our example on and2moko.
Nov 04 13:28:36 <larlin> hu? we moste have and2moko registerd as a trademark or some garbage like that?
Nov 04 13:28:38 <Serdar> that's the case if we registered and2moko.tld for example.
Nov 04 13:29:04 <Serdar> larlin, yeah that is another solution.
Nov 04 13:29:48 <larlin> geesh, how very fucking convenient....
Nov 04 13:30:03 <Serdar> http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming
Nov 04 13:30:22 <Serdar> http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml
Nov 04 13:30:41 <Serdar> I have a solution which is _kinda_ tricky.
Nov 04 13:31:03 <Serdar> you knwo we registered #android-on-freerunner long time ago.
Nov 04 13:31:14 <Serdar> and made it as forward.
Nov 04 13:32:33 <larlin> yeah it's seems like we have to move to that room then
Nov 04 13:32:52 <larlin> or do you have a more techinical solution on how to do that?
Nov 04 13:32:53 <Serdar> I told _kinda_ tricky.
Nov 04 13:33:16 <Serdar> the problem is, that we can be kicked out by google.
Nov 04 13:33:40 <Serdar> they have registered #android (I guess) so they have a contract.
Nov 04 13:34:01 <Serdar> If you have a contract you will have automatically rights on -* channel.
Nov 04 13:34:13 <Serdar> in our case #android-on-freerunner
Nov 04 13:34:20 <Serdar> or #android-dev...
Nov 04 13:34:49 <Serdar> if we can get in contact with the owner of #android we can get the permission to use this channel
Nov 04 13:35:09 <Serdar> or we use it without asking, because nobody cares. but I don't know.
Nov 04 13:35:21 <pbaxter> hello all
Nov 04 13:36:17 <larlin> humm well problem is if we continue using it which we ofcourse can then we could get hijacked which would be a pain
Nov 04 13:36:44 <larlin> Serdar, do you think the google code project is good enought to claim android-on-freerunner?
Nov 04 13:37:19 <Serdar> larlin, hmm maybe.
Nov 04 13:38:11 <Serdar> larlin, you mean we can get hijack from google itself?
Nov 04 13:38:12 <larlin> I would go for trying to claim android-on-freerunner and move there seems like alot of work to go the other way
Nov 04 13:38:51 <Serdar> we can use our own irc server.
Nov 04 13:39:14 <pbaxter> Serdar: why don't we move to and2moko?
Nov 04 13:39:14 <larlin> Serdar, don't know really maybe they have fixed those problems but before a big problem in irc was that people could go in and take over channels in varius ways
Nov 04 13:39:26 <larlin> pbaxter, this is and2moko
Nov 04 13:40:14 <pbaxter> it's a king of solution 'cause google do not have power on and*
Nov 04 13:40:14 <pbaxter> but on android-*
Nov 04 13:41:09 <pbaxter> larlin: yes bue move all the names to and2moko
Nov 04 13:41:33 <Serdar> we can use this channel. But we don't have rights anymore
Nov 04 13:43:01 <larlin> pbaxter, yes but we got zilch and zero claim on #and2moko
Nov 04 13:43:44 <pbaxter> why? larlin if you register it now, you'll have rights
Nov 04 13:43:53 <larlin> nope
Nov 04 13:44:06 <larlin> you must have a contract with freenode
Nov 04 13:44:17 <larlin> and you need to have a out of irc claim on the name
Nov 04 13:44:25 <larlin> http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming
Nov 04 13:47:29 <Serdar> I am asking a #android founder now.
Nov 04 13:48:21 <larlin> k
Nov 04 13:56:20 <Serdar> hmm they live in california.
Nov 04 13:56:29 <Serdar> we can send jancona
Nov 04 13:56:44 <larlin> whith a shootgun?
Nov 04 13:56:48 <pbaxter> ok...let us know Serdar or larlin ok?
Nov 04 13:57:20 <Serdar> does he have one?
Nov 04 13:57:32 <larlin> he live in the US he must have one =)
Nov 04 13:59:33 <Serdar> hm
Nov 04 14:03:25 <mvzaanen> heh
Nov 04 14:04:23 <Serdar> if we hve the rights to use #android-on-freerunner, than I use the same ops like here.
Nov 04 14:04:39 <Serdar> which were panicking, jancona and larlin iirc.
Nov 04 14:04:50 <larlin> sounds good
Nov 04 14:05:39 <Serdar> there is also a philosophy in freenode about rights.
Nov 04 14:05:53 <Serdar> therefore we don't use autoops
Nov 04 14:06:10 <Serdar> regaining op is with /msg chanserv op #channelname
Nov 04 14:19:51 <mvzaanen> time for me to go
Nov 04 14:53:03 <Serdar> hi jancona
Nov 04 14:53:28 <Serdar> jancona, larlin said you have a shotgun?
Nov 04 15:05:46 <Serdar> syncing works again.
Nov 04 15:11:18 <sanvy> hi all
Nov 04 15:15:12 <Serdar> hi
Nov 04 15:15:38 <Serdar> hmm it doesn't work properly...
Nov 04 15:16:39 <sanvy> hi Serdar
Nov 04 15:16:55 <sanvy> Serdar, two days ago I finally compiled android :D
Nov 04 15:17:00 <sanvy> only 8h :P
Nov 04 15:17:23 <Serdar> gz.
Nov 04 15:19:10 <larlin> by the way first snow!
Nov 04 15:20:34 <Serdar> gz.
Nov 04 15:46:53 <sanvy> i go
Nov 04 15:46:56 <sanvy> see you later
Nov 04 16:23:48 <sanvy> hi all
Nov 04 17:02:57 <slaxxer> so how well did the android compile     come out?
Nov 04 17:09:24 <sanvy> according to me, very well, slaxxer :D
Nov 04 17:09:33 <sanvy> what do you want to know, exatly?
Nov 04 17:11:43 <slaxxer> is it the v20  now available?
Nov 04 17:11:59 <slaxxer> pannnicking?
Nov 04 17:12:11 <slaxxer>   or different?
Nov 04 17:18:19 <sanvy> v20?
Nov 04 17:18:29 <sanvy> oh, are you talking about panicking relases?
Nov 04 17:18:45 <sanvy> mm
Nov 04 17:18:56 <sanvy> i don't know if panicking has the same git...
Nov 04 17:19:25 <serdar__> did your patch worked?
Nov 04 17:19:25 <sanvy> according to what he told me last time he get calendar working :P
Nov 04 17:19:32 <sanvy> serdar__: ??
Nov 04 17:19:37 <sanvy> who?
Nov 04 17:19:50 <serdar__> you was compileing
Nov 04 17:20:07 <serdar__> last time? it's 1.5 weeks ago.
Nov 04 17:20:35 <sanvy> slaxxer: I don't know if panicking has the latest fixes of community relases, but I think that community should have his latest fixes
Nov 04 17:21:21 <sanvy> serdar__: i'm talking about my last time I have talked with panicking about his android
Nov 04 17:21:48 <sanvy> hw, I succesfully get the keyboard larger
Nov 04 17:21:58 <sanvy> without improve the slowly
Nov 04 17:22:01 <sanvy> sorry
Nov 04 17:22:19 <sanvy> I enlarged it but it isn't slower
Nov 04 17:22:55 <sanvy> serdar__: take a look there http://img29.yfrog.com/gal.php?g=16183289.png
Nov 04 17:23:31 <sanvy> sorry for qualities, they have been done with hieracy
Nov 04 17:24:02 <sanvy> i enlarged keyboard and top bar, in order to make them more finger friendly
Nov 04 17:24:22 <sanvy> also I changed some images, so now the menu is semi-trasparent
Nov 04 17:24:40 <sanvy> but it's only a draft
Nov 04 17:25:06 <sanvy> to understand how the changes in the xmls works
Nov 04 17:25:09 <sanvy> to understand how the changes in the xmls work*
Nov 04 17:29:09 <sanvy> serdar__: ??
Nov 04 17:42:30 <sanvy> :\
Nov 04 18:07:57 <sanvy> serdar__: ?
Nov 04 18:08:26 <serdar__> hm?
Nov 04 18:14:40 <sanvy> did you read before?
Nov 04 18:22:33 <serdar__> about the images?
Nov 04 18:28:53 <sanvy> yes
Nov 04 18:28:58 <sanvy> and about the changes
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