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Dec 18 08:47:48 <mvzaanen> Morning
Dec 18 08:51:44 <Serdar1> morning
Dec 18 09:00:15 <mvzaanen> it seems things are progressing again on android on freerunner
Dec 18 09:00:22 <mvzaanen> both on eclair and cupcake
Dec 18 09:00:32 <mvzaanen> perhaps it's time for me to try a new version
Dec 18 10:08:25 <ColdFyre> hiiiiiiiiiiii
Dec 18 10:08:29 * ColdFyre drunk
Dec 18 10:09:41 <ColdFyre> ponies
Dec 18 10:39:59 <Serdar1> oO
Dec 18 10:40:07 <Serdar1> you are always drunk
Dec 18 10:43:26 <emacsian> Can the current cupcake version be installed on a 512M SD card ?
Dec 18 10:59:07 <Serdar1> try it
Dec 18 11:29:45 <Serdar1> hi panicking
Dec 18 11:29:55 <Serdar1> I failed compiling eclair
Dec 18 11:30:06 <Serdar1> because of missing mtd-utils.h
Dec 18 11:30:08 <panicking> let me check
Dec 18 11:30:54 <Serdar1> I have installed mtd-utils but there is no mtd-utils.h
Dec 18 11:48:05 <pbaxter> hi all
Dec 18 12:02:13 <Serdar1> panicking, have you seen it?
Dec 18 12:04:08 <panicking> I have done a change
Dec 18 12:04:09 <panicking> in kernel
Dec 18 12:04:12 <panicking> a missed commit
Dec 18 12:04:16 <panicking> I'm going to test
Dec 18 12:04:22 <panicking> I have just pushed
Dec 18 12:12:41 <pbaxter> panicking: but the kernel is for eclair or cupcake or both?
Dec 18 12:20:31 <Serdar1>                               panicking I am syncing now.
Dec 18 12:32:19 <panicking> cupcake
Dec 18 12:32:49 <Serdar1> no eclair
Dec 18 12:35:44 <panicking> only kernel
Dec 18 13:03:24 <Serdar1> hm
Dec 18 13:03:40 <Serdar1> I am building eclair and rebuilding daily-cupcake now.
Dec 18 13:20:01 <pbaxter> Serdar1: will you put eclair on your server?
Dec 18 13:20:20 <Serdar1> I allready did it.
Dec 18 13:21:54 <pbaxter> Serdar1: where is eclair?
Dec 18 13:30:16 <pbaxter> Serdar1: where have you put your eclair image?
Dec 18 13:30:30 <Serdar1>  /home/serdar/eclair
Dec 18 13:39:13 <pbaxter_> Serdar1: ?
Dec 18 13:39:15 <pbaxter_> where?
Dec 18 13:39:21 <Serdar1>  /home/serdar/eclair
Dec 18 13:39:41 <pbaxter_> can you give me the link?
Dec 18 13:40:33 <Serdar1> nope.
Dec 18 13:41:01 <pbaxter_> Serdar1: why not?
Dec 18 13:41:07 <pbaxter_> i cannot find it in serdar-dere.net
Dec 18 13:41:46 <Serdar1> you need to wait like everyone. We need to discuss and be sure.
Dec 18 13:42:33 <pbaxter_> Serdar1: ok:)
Dec 18 13:42:59 <Serdar1> panicking, there?
Dec 18 13:43:29 <panicking> yes
Dec 18 13:43:52 <Serdar1> panicking, what do you think about a second meeting tonight with everyone?
Dec 18 13:45:06 <Serdar1> I will not have much time the days till new year's eve, because of red cross, therefore we need to discuss of releasing eclair builds and beginning to write a paper for fosdem10
Dec 18 14:10:35 <emacsian> a basic question, how to close a running application
Dec 18 14:15:10 <mvzaanen> you can't
Dec 18 14:15:17 <mvzaanen> as far as I know
Dec 18 14:30:32 <Serdar1> yes it's a design of android
Dec 18 14:35:33 <Serdar1> hi jancona
Dec 18 14:36:01 <Serdar1> jancona, I am missing stuff in eclair
Dec 18 14:36:12 <jancona> What are you missing?
Dec 18 14:39:06 <jancona> Serdar1: I'm working on getting it to run from NAND--maybe tonight or this weekend
Dec 18 14:41:38 <Serdar1> mtd-utils.h
Dec 18 14:57:25 <jancona> Serdar, have you done a repo sync since last night. If you're missing mtdutils.h (no dash), then that should fix it.
Dec 18 14:58:08 <Serdar> I did it few hours ago.
Dec 18 14:59:23 <jancona> Check if your manifest has this line: <project path="bootable/recovery" name="platform/bootable/recovery" />
Dec 18 14:59:39 <jancona> If it doesn't, do your repo init again
Dec 18 14:59:50 <jancona> Then repo sync
Dec 18 15:01:29 <Serdar> I am building atm and need to wait till it fail or get through.
Dec 18 15:28:49 <jancona> Serdar: Let me know if that doesn't work and I'll investigate further
Dec 18 15:29:35 <Zorkman> anyone running eclair?
Dec 18 16:01:10 <Bish> wow.. android is really awesome
Dec 18 16:01:27 <Bish> but i got a microproblem
Dec 18 16:01:39 <Bish> where do i find the percentage of my battery? :D
Dec 18 16:13:54 <jancona> Bish: Do you have the battery icon in the satus bar at upper right?
Dec 18 16:14:14 <Bish> ofc
Dec 18 16:14:45 <Bish> jancona: ofc
Dec 18 16:15:13 <jancona> That gives you a rough idea. Theres a percentage indicator in the Settings app somewhere.
Dec 18 16:15:29 <Bish> That one i found just says
Dec 18 16:15:32 <Bish> Charging. (AC)
Dec 18 16:15:38 <Bish> in settings
Dec 18 16:16:01 <jancona> Also if the phone is locked and the charger is plugged in, it tells you the charge %
Dec 18 16:16:21 <jancona> Try unplugging the charger and go to the Settings page
Dec 18 16:16:31 <Bish> then its says Not Charging :D
Dec 18 16:17:06 <jancona> I thought there was a % indicator there, but I don't have my phone here now to look for it.
Dec 18 16:18:00 <jancona> You can suspend the phone (to get it locked). Then wake it up (but don't unlock), then plug in the charger and check the lock screen
Dec 18 16:18:18 <Bish> didnt tried that, but i will
Dec 18 16:18:39 <Bish> wow, google really did an awesome job on android
Dec 18 16:18:43 <Bish> im impressed, really
Dec 18 16:19:09 <jancona> Yes, it's pretty nice
Dec 18 16:19:19 <Bish> thumb-friendly
Dec 18 16:29:58 <Bish> jancona: does it tell me when the battery is full?=
Dec 18 16:32:27 <jancona> It should--I think it stops charging and the icon loses the lightning bolt
Dec 18 16:34:44 <Bish> i just downloaded a tool, which will tell me :D
Dec 18 16:34:46 <Bish> thats just great
Dec 18 16:34:47 <Bish> i love htat
Dec 18 16:36:02 <Bish> jancona: i unplugged it
Dec 18 16:36:08 <Bish> sitll no percentage. thats weird D
Dec 18 16:43:23 <panicking> mwester, cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/resume_reason
Dec 18 16:43:31 <panicking> you can check the resume_reason here
Dec 18 16:43:44 <panicking> can be related to the RTC
Dec 18 16:43:45 <panicking> clock
Dec 18 16:43:50 <mwester> I'll try to see if I can connect next time it resumes to find out why it resumed -- it'll be tough, because according to the log, I have 5 seconds once every 10 minutes to catch it.
Dec 18 16:50:29 <Bish> where do i have to put music, 4 that musicplayer of google?
Dec 18 16:50:58 <panicking> sdcard
Dec 18 16:51:01 <panicking> then go to
Dec 18 16:51:19 <panicking> devtools
Dec 18 16:51:23 <panicking> and check media scanner
Dec 18 16:51:29 <panicking> then you find music
Dec 18 16:51:32 <panicking> database upload
Dec 18 16:52:41 <Bish> panicking: well im talkin about andorid in general, just bought my samsung galaxy.
Dec 18 16:53:17 <panicking> this is for the cupcake
Dec 18 16:53:21 <panicking> version
Dec 18 16:53:29 <Bish> okay.
Dec 18 16:53:32 <panicking> and it's not an openmoko
Dec 18 16:53:34 <panicking> regression
Dec 18 16:53:42 <Bish> ofc its not, never said
Dec 18 16:54:02 <panicking> Anyone has a special theme of openmoko
Dec 18 16:54:05 <panicking> icons, button
Dec 18 16:55:58 <panicking> jancona, I was thinking to change the android gadget device
Dec 18 16:56:05 <panicking> to register only the usb storage
Dec 18 16:56:06 <panicking> this is the idea
Dec 18 16:56:14 <panicking> when the debug console is active
Dec 18 16:56:22 <panicking> we use the ether gadget
Dec 18 16:56:24 <panicking> model
Dec 18 16:56:34 <panicking> elsewhere we use the android gadget
Dec 18 16:56:37 <panicking> from stoarage
Dec 18 20:44:19 <spacepluk> hi, I can't get gprs to work with the last weekly release
Dec 18 20:44:59 <spacepluk> is it supposed to work?
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