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Dec 29 10:35:27 <Chriux> ahoy, is it possible to integrate a file-manager (like AndExplorer) in Eclair to? I just can not install the adb.
Dec 29 10:36:45 <Chriux> least as long as it does not work WLAN!?
Dec 29 13:09:12 <michael_at_panic> Hi all
Dec 29 13:09:17 <michael_at_panic> I have fixed speaker
Dec 29 13:09:23 <michael_at_panic> during call
Dec 29 13:09:33 <michael_at_panic> Anyone has tested bluetooth
Dec 29 15:19:39 <Serdar> hi michael_at_panic
Dec 29 15:21:01 <michael_at_panic> Hi
Dec 29 15:21:04 <michael_at_panic> I hav efixed
Dec 29 15:21:10 <michael_at_panic> another issue
Dec 29 15:22:40 <Serdar> for cupcake?
Dec 29 15:22:51 <Serdar> larlin, there?
Dec 29 15:32:36 <Chriux> hi Serdar! Could you put an file-explorer (like andexplorer) in the weekly/daily builds of eclair? till wlan is ok?
Dec 29 15:33:05 <Serdar> of eclair?
Dec 29 15:33:15 <Chriux> sorry for eclair
Dec 29 15:33:22 <Serdar> hm.
Dec 29 15:33:37 <Serdar> isn't there a fileexplorer?
Dec 29 15:33:41 <Chriux> i cant install adb the sdk
Dec 29 15:34:17 <Serdar> maybe we should add andexplorer as an external project.
Dec 29 15:34:21 <Serdar> jancona, there?
Dec 29 15:34:24 <Chriux> i dont think so:( but i dont test it last week
Dec 29 15:36:58 <Serdar> do you have a page for me?
Dec 29 15:37:47 <Chriux> Serdar: me? for what?
Dec 29 15:38:01 <Serdar> andexploerer
Dec 29 15:38:52 <Serdar> btw. do you have installed eclair atm?
Dec 29 15:39:07 <Chriux> i install it always from the www.andappstore.com if i have wlan.
Dec 29 15:39:10 <Chriux> http://andappstore.com/AndroidApplications/apps/AndExplorer
Dec 29 15:39:33 <Serdar> does andexplorer work for you?
Dec 29 15:39:50 <Chriux> http://www.openintents.org/en/node/159
Dec 29 15:40:11 <Chriux> by cupcake yes. i dont know it it works by eclair
Dec 29 15:41:24 <Chriux> i have no sdk/ndk - no adb bridge
Dec 29 15:41:27 <Serdar> have you installed eclair by now?
Dec 29 15:41:32 <Chriux> no
Dec 29 15:41:32 <Serdar> huh?
Dec 29 15:41:51 <Serdar> you don't have your cable?
Dec 29 15:43:34 <Chriux> of course. but i cant install the Android SDK on my opensuse
Dec 29 15:44:59 <jancona> Chriux: Why not?
Dec 29 15:45:09 <Chriux> not know the command adb
Dec 29 15:45:21 <Serdar> download it.
Dec 29 15:45:34 <Serdar> jancona, can we add andexplorer as an external project?
Dec 29 15:45:47 <Chriux> i dont know. sure because I'm too stupid.
Dec 29 15:45:49 <Chriux> :)
Dec 29 15:46:17 <jancona> Chriux: You can just grab the adb executable from the SDK and place it in your path somewhere
Dec 29 15:46:35 <Serdar> http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/adb
Dec 29 15:46:41 <Chriux> ok, i will try it again.
Dec 29 15:46:54 <Serdar> weget http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/adb && chmod +x adb
Dec 29 15:47:03 <Serdar> wget
Dec 29 15:47:30 <Chriux> thx. but now i am online with xp
Dec 29 15:47:31 <jancona> I think that one is old but it will probably work for what you need
Dec 29 15:47:52 <Serdar> Chriux, blame on you!
Dec 29 15:48:30 <jancona> You should be able to use the SDK with XP
Dec 29 15:48:46 <Chriux> no. i would use opensuse
Dec 29 15:48:52 <Serdar> jancona, you are ignoring my questions :O
Dec 29 15:49:02 <Chriux> my laptop is out of order today
Dec 29 15:49:17 <Serdar> Chriux, you want tu USE OpenSuSE??
Dec 29 15:49:18 <Chriux> i have to go;( su and thx
Dec 29 15:49:32 <Serdar> to
Dec 29 15:49:33 <Chriux> yes i like it
Dec 29 15:49:38 <Serdar> oO"""
Dec 29 15:50:50 <jancona> I don't know if it's possible, but I'd rather spend my time on getting wifi to work
Dec 29 15:53:22 <jancona> Also, is andexplorer open source?
Dec 29 15:56:36 <Serdar> no idea
Dec 29 15:56:42 <Serdar> there is http://www.anddev.org/android_filebrowser__v20-t101.html
Dec 29 15:57:00 <Serdar> andorid filebrowser there are source codes.
Dec 29 16:15:27 <jancona> michael_at_panic: Did you accidentally push to git://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_installer.git
Dec 29 16:15:52 <michael_at_panic> no
Dec 29 16:16:01 <michael_at_panic> I don't use it
Dec 29 16:17:05 <michael_at_panic> so I hope
Dec 29 16:17:27 <jancona> I saw two new branches: http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_installer
Dec 29 16:18:01 <michael_at_panic> sorry
Dec 29 16:18:02 <michael_at_panic> yes
Dec 29 16:18:18 <jancona> It looks like they were supposed to go to platform_vendor_neo_freerunner
Dec 29 16:18:35 <jancona> I can delete them if you want me to
Dec 29 16:19:49 <michael_at_panic> yes sorry
Dec 29 16:20:02 <jancona> No problem
Dec 29 16:24:37 <michael_at_panic> Yes I have push an invalid branch
Dec 29 16:24:40 <michael_at_panic> I have done a fix
Dec 29 16:24:44 <michael_at_panic> and push other directory
Dec 29 16:25:10 <jancona> ok, I deleted the branches on the installer repo
Dec 29 16:27:50 <michael_at_panic> one thing
Dec 29 16:28:05 <michael_at_panic> eclair things must be commit in eclair branch
Dec 29 16:28:09 <michael_at_panic> or master branch
Dec 29 16:28:09 <michael_at_panic> ?
Dec 29 16:31:12 <michael_at_panic> There are a lot of feedback pending issue
Dec 29 16:31:27 <michael_at_panic> can we test again and close
Dec 29 16:31:29 <michael_at_panic> ?
Dec 29 16:34:51 <jancona> I would like to switch to the master branch, because that is where changes to the Google open source code happen.
Dec 29 16:35:11 <jancona> We can submit our changes there, and pick up theirs.
Dec 29 16:35:56 <jancona> Right now our master branch seems to work as well (or as badly) as Eclair
Dec 29 16:36:12 <michael_at_panic> ok
Dec 29 16:37:58 <jancona> If we don't get any feedback for the feedback pending issues in a week, we can close them with a note telling people to reopen them if they're still not fixed
Dec 29 16:39:31 <jancona> I'll bet if you ask Larlin or Harry they will do that for you :-)
Dec 29 16:44:34 <michael_at_panic> Ok, anyone has tryed blueetooh or mms
Dec 29 16:44:42 <michael_at_panic> I don't have a bluetooth
Dec 29 16:44:43 <michael_at_panic> device
Dec 29 16:44:50 <michael_at_panic> compatible with the openmoko
Dec 29 16:45:49 <jancona> I merged your changes to master
Dec 29 16:46:20 <jancona> I don't have a bluetooth device
Dec 29 16:46:43 <jancona> Maybe this is a good excuse to get one. What should I get?
Dec 29 16:52:01 <Serdar> btw. do we have any papers for FOSDEM10?
Dec 29 16:52:55 <jancona> I don't :-)
Dec 29 16:53:38 <jancona> Michael and I are thinking we should move Eclair development to the master branch.
Dec 29 16:53:39 <Serdar> january is before us only 31 days to write a paper for FOSDEM
Dec 29 16:53:51 <jancona> Does that cause a problem for you?
Dec 29 16:53:58 <Serdar> nope, it's nice
Dec 29 16:54:17 <Serdar> we need to get in contact with them too because of the market.
Dec 29 16:55:56 <jancona> You should be able to build from the master branch now. Let me know if you have any problems.
Dec 29 16:56:58 <jancona> Get in touch with FOSDEM because of the market??
Dec 29 16:57:06 <jancona> I don't understand
Dec 29 16:59:07 <jancona> I was going to write a letter to Open Handset Alliance about Google apps on AOF, but I was waiting til after New Years
Dec 29 17:13:07 <ColdFyre> looks like i am going to finally do away with my freerunner soon...my android days are numbered
Dec 29 17:15:15 <michael_at_panic> ColdFyre, Why?
Dec 29 17:15:58 <ColdFyre> nokia n900 :)
Dec 29 17:16:50 <ColdFyre> if that runs android, i'll tthrow that on there instead of mer
Dec 29 17:21:33 <michael_at_panic> Can you send to me?
Dec 29 17:21:34 <michael_at_panic> :)
Dec 29 17:21:39 <michael_at_panic> so I can test eclair
Dec 29 17:21:41 <michael_at_panic> and cupcake
Dec 29 17:21:55 <michael_at_panic> without reflash it
Dec 29 17:22:04 <michael_at_panic> If you want to thow it
Dec 29 17:24:40 <ColdFyre> my FR?
Dec 29 17:25:03 <ColdFyre> possibly, it won't be until jan/feb at least though
Dec 29 17:25:27 <michael_at_panic> :)
Dec 29 17:26:11 <ColdFyre> if the speaker volume of the FR wasn't so damn low, i'd keep it longer
Dec 29 17:34:07 <michael_at_panic> Do you try the shr
Dec 29 17:34:08 <michael_at_panic> ?
Dec 29 17:36:39 <michael_at_panic> GNUtoo, sei italiano?
Dec 29 17:36:54 <GNUtoo> yes
Dec 29 17:36:56 <GNUtoo> no
Dec 29 17:37:10 <GNUtoo> ma capisco l'italiano
Dec 29 17:37:13 <michael_at_panic> ok
Dec 29 17:38:44 <GNUtoo> e vivo a milano
Dec 29 18:03:13 <firegrass> When doing a backup is the contacts/sms location different for a adb pull on eclair to cupcake?
Dec 29 18:05:03 <ColdFyre> i have not used shr since last feb :p
Dec 29 18:05:14 <ColdFyre> firegrass:  no
Dec 29 18:05:18 <ColdFyre> same place
Dec 29 18:05:36 <firegrass> ColdFyre: cheers
Dec 29 18:05:57 <michael_at_panic> but how was the audio?
Dec 29 18:06:38 <firegrass> Ah, my contact db is called contacts2.db
Dec 29 18:08:17 <ColdFyre> the audio when i used it then was bad
Dec 29 18:08:49 <ColdFyre> very quiet, people had a hard time hearing me
Dec 29 18:18:36 <ColdFyre> michael_at_panic:  why might the wifi drop during a hpone call?
Dec 30 01:08:37 <Serdar> hi jancona
Dec 30 01:25:28 <jancona> hi Serdar
Dec 30 01:30:59 <Serdar> should I use -b master now or no -b?
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