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Jan 09 15:07:29 hi jancona Jan 09 15:25:42 jancona, do you have apn for Medion mobile? Jan 09 17:48:59 Serdar, Jan 09 17:49:02 is the back button Jan 09 17:49:06 fixed in the eclair Jan 09 17:49:07 ? Jan 09 17:49:12 nope. Jan 09 17:49:22 hi panicking Jan 09 17:49:31 there isn't any fixes for eclair now. Jan 09 17:49:42 so you can't use aux Jan 09 17:49:44 as back button Jan 09 17:49:53 jancona did something to wifi, but he hasn't commit. Jan 09 17:50:04 wait that's not correct Jan 09 17:50:12 there are two issues about back button Jan 09 17:50:22 first you go back down to main page. Jan 09 17:50:49 and second you can go back at settings iirc. Jan 09 17:52:21 It's simple Jan 09 17:52:22 chaneg Jan 09 17:52:27 can you test it Jan 09 17:52:29 open the Jan 09 17:52:46 I haven't installed eclair atm. Jan 09 17:52:52 ok Jan 09 17:53:06 if you need, I can make a new build and test it. Jan 09 17:53:12 ok Jan 09 17:53:15 I give the change Jan 09 17:53:24 open this file Jan 09 17:53:25 Neo1973_Buttons.kl Jan 09 17:53:32 and change HOME with BACK Jan 09 17:53:56 moment please Jan 09 17:53:57 the file is under vendor/neo/freerunner Jan 09 17:54:20 you mean fr not freerunner Jan 09 17:55:03 done. Jan 09 17:55:09 any other changes I need to test? Jan 09 17:55:20 sorry yes Jan 09 17:55:39 use a differen sdcard Jan 09 17:55:41 because Jan 09 17:55:44 upgrade is possible Jan 09 17:55:47 but downgrade Jan 09 17:55:51 is not possible Jan 09 17:56:22 I use my neo only for testing not phoneing, so I am useing the same evertytime. Jan 09 17:56:44 so no other changes to test, right? Jan 09 17:58:14 btw. according to http://www.medionmobile.de/content2009/PDFs/MMS-Konfiguration.pdf I want to add new APN for Medion mobile/Aldi Talk. Jan 09 18:00:39 panicking, is there something else to test than say now, before I rebuild. Jan 09 18:01:20 No, sorry Jan 09 18:01:21 :) Jan 09 18:01:29 I was working on other device eclair Jan 09 18:01:37 version so I have fixed this problem Jan 09 18:01:40 in that board Jan 09 18:02:37 okay Jan 09 18:02:41 than I rebuild now. Jan 09 18:16:04 panicking, how's FOSDEM will you be there? Jan 09 18:16:26 Yes of course Jan 09 18:16:34 what are the days Jan 09 18:16:35 ? Jan 09 18:17:35 6/7 February Jan 09 18:17:40 and 5 February Beer event Jan 09 18:17:44 btw. http://www.fosdem.org/2010/stands Jan 09 18:18:30 http://www.fosdem.org/2010/beerevent Jan 09 18:18:36 with beer sponsored from google. Jan 09 18:19:55 hikes, LPI is there too.... Jan 09 18:20:10 maybe I should learn and participate to get a certification... Jan 09 18:20:17 but 150 EUR is lot of money :/( Jan 09 18:21:15 Ok, I'm going to buy ticket tomorrow morning Jan 09 18:21:26 Where can I sleep Jan 09 18:21:27 ? Jan 09 18:21:45 no idea. Jan 09 18:23:11 oh Greg Kroah-Hartman will be there too. Jan 09 18:26:46 Serdar, do you flash eclair? Jan 09 18:27:09 oh yes, I was stuck on the homepage Jan 09 18:30:24 does it work? Jan 09 18:32:58 Hello Serdar & panicking, I just wanted to congratulate you guys for a great work Jan 09 18:33:09 I am doing nothing. Jan 09 18:33:19 I found that the project is still alive Jan 09 18:33:37 So I took out my FreeRunner last night and followed the instructions Jan 09 18:33:39 great work Jan 09 18:33:57 you can try eclair too. Jan 09 18:34:09 I want to help, I'm interested on the 3D graphics stack Jan 09 18:34:22 I don't know if panicking is still working on that Jan 09 18:34:24 good to know Jan 09 18:34:35 yes I have done some work Jan 09 18:34:45 but there are a lot stuff to do Jan 09 18:34:48 I know that Thomas White did some work on the kernel Jan 09 18:34:57 for the freerunner Jan 09 18:35:03 we can talk usingn skype chat Jan 09 18:35:12 ok Jan 09 18:35:12 you can add me Jan 09 18:35:15 nazzzaren Jan 09 18:35:18 talk == chat Jan 09 18:35:24 but I can share more info Jan 09 18:35:26 using skype Jan 09 18:38:18 skype works on the device? Jan 09 18:39:03 erh brain fail. Jan 09 18:39:05 * d1b ignore me Jan 09 18:39:36 yes Jan 09 18:40:54 why isn't master working with java 1.6? Jan 09 18:41:04 that's so stupid... Jan 09 18:44:13 Serdar Jan 09 18:44:18 does the BACK works? Jan 09 18:44:20 on eclair? Jan 09 18:47:37 now? Jan 09 18:48:05 give me 5 minutes... Jan 09 18:48:17 okay he is impatient. Jan 09 19:24:27 someone there? Jan 09 19:29:42 Yes? Jan 09 19:30:02 juan_arandaalvar, do you have cupcake installed? Jan 09 19:30:07 Serdar: excuse me I'm a N00b, what is eclair Jan 09 19:30:13 Yes I have cupcake installed Jan 09 19:30:20 eclair is the successor of cupcake. Jan 09 19:30:35 I downloaded android-on-freerunner-cupcake-daily-20100109 Jan 09 19:30:42 and a very delicious sweet from french Jan 09 19:30:48 :) Jan 09 19:30:52 okay. Jan 09 19:31:07 I can't remember correctly can you look, if there is a calculator app. Jan 09 19:31:50 let me check Jan 09 19:32:33 bakc works fine Jan 09 19:32:48 but I found a really crazy error with the calcuclator Jan 09 19:33:26 ok Jan 09 19:33:34 does the calendar work Jan 09 19:33:34 ? Jan 09 19:33:54 because there is a recent commit in master branch that fix calendar Jan 09 19:34:27 it works Jan 09 19:35:27 There is a calculator app Jan 09 19:35:39 please test 5.9 / 10 Jan 09 19:35:46 or 5*6 Jan 09 19:36:07 panicking, works fine. I can add things Jan 09 19:36:27 panicking, from when is this "recent commit"? Jan 09 19:36:41 Serdar: They work fine Jan 09 19:36:55 but the envoirement is slower than on cupcake. Jan 09 19:36:58 daes the calendar work? Jan 09 19:37:05 panicking, yes it does. Jan 09 19:38:12 ok Jan 09 19:38:13 Does the calendar has to start on the current date? Jan 09 19:40:23 when does it start? Jan 09 19:40:39 January 1st 2000? Jan 09 19:40:57 Yesterday Jan 09 19:41:03 hm? Jan 09 19:41:07 that's strange Jan 09 19:43:00 the calculator of master is broken Jan 09 19:43:11 5*6 = @E19 Jan 09 19:49:08 let me check Jan 09 19:49:36 it's ok Jan 09 19:49:41 I have tested on other machine Jan 09 19:49:50 huh? Jan 09 19:49:59 5*6=30 Jan 09 19:50:07 yes Jan 09 19:50:34 and it should be allert at 1+= Jan 09 19:54:16 what version of java virtual machine do you use Jan 09 19:54:19 for compile eclair Jan 09 19:55:20 local or on server? Jan 09 19:56:11 on server 1.5.0_22 Jan 09 19:56:46 It can be an issue related to the same Double problem conversion Jan 09 19:57:24 can we use this http://code.google.com/p/scientific-calculator-for-android/ Jan 09 19:57:43 Double problem conversion? Jan 09 19:59:41 http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=100 Jan 09 20:11:42 Ok find it Jan 09 20:11:50 it can be releated to the arity package Jan 09 20:11:55 used by the calucltaor Jan 09 20:17:24 hmm Jan 09 20:17:30 is this an android issue? Jan 09 20:19:13 try to use and old arity library from the cupcake Jan 09 20:19:16 or a new one Jan 09 20:19:47 new one? Jan 09 20:19:52 this is the latest master Jan 09 20:20:09 Are you on skype Jan 09 20:21:00 ? Jan 09 20:21:01 http://code.google.com/p/arity/downloads/list Jan 09 20:21:06 you can take arity machine Jan 09 20:21:09 from this web site Jan 09 20:21:30 yes I am on skype Jan 09 20:21:32 go to /packages/apps/Calculato Jan 09 20:21:33 r Jan 09 20:21:40 and change the arity package Jan 09 20:21:43 with somenthing new Jan 09 20:21:46 for example Jan 09 20:21:52 then open the makefile Jan 09 20:21:59 and change arity name Jan 09 20:22:03 and try to rebuild Jan 09 20:22:06 calculator Jan 09 20:22:15 and check if a new version fix the issue Jan 09 20:22:27 it's 1.3.3 Jan 09 20:22:50 I don;t know Jan 09 20:22:52 but I suppose Jan 09 20:22:56 that we must compile Jan 09 20:22:59 with dalvik Jan 09 20:23:03 so nothing to do Jan 09 20:23:12 don't download Jan 09 20:23:13 it Jan 09 20:23:29 okay I got 2.0.0 Jan 09 20:23:44 hmm Jan 09 20:23:50 okayn then I delete it again. Jan 09 20:24:44 are you sure we need to compile it with dalvik? Jan 09 20:26:08 no Jan 09 20:26:10 btw. googlecode does now git and mercurial now. Jan 09 20:26:13 :D Jan 09 20:26:19 I'm wrong Jan 09 20:26:22 s/now/know Jan 09 20:26:23 try to use Jan 09 20:26:25 it Jan 09 20:26:49 so we can move from gitorious to googlecode again Jan 09 20:27:48 but I would prefer this calcuclator http://code.google.com/p/scientific-calculator-for-android/ :> Jan 09 20:28:00 it also has a plotter. Jan 10 02:22:37 hi jonkristian Jan 10 02:26:01 Hi Serdar , how's it going? Jan 10 02:26:25 I've been out testing MapDroyd, it's a fine piece of software Jan 10 02:27:11 I am trying to get rid of a freaky problem Jan 10 02:27:26 sup? Jan 10 02:27:34 great opportunity, that I have no idea what I should do :) Jan 10 02:27:45 oh it's an eclair/master problem Jan 10 02:27:59 maybe only for Calculator, maybe not. Jan 10 02:28:01 I could be tempted to flash eclair:D Jan 10 02:28:17 I now the error. Jan 10 02:29:00 panicking was here yesterday and we solved the AUX bug. Jan 10 02:29:13 Any changes to eclair? I guess not, if only i could get past the first unlock screen:D Jan 10 02:29:17 Cool! Jan 10 02:29:31 you can't? Jan 10 02:29:41 be faster than the timeout man. Jan 10 02:29:51 and than set this timeout to 30 minutes Jan 10 02:30:30 We'll see, i am going to flash right away:) Jan 10 02:31:08 okay Jan 10 02:31:26 You've started pushing eclair dailies now? Jan 10 02:32:10 no, I only did that yesterday/today because I want to test something Jan 10 02:32:49 but we will produce one stable cupcake and than daily eclairs with FOSDESM Jan 10 02:32:51 FODEM Jan 10 02:32:54 FOSDEM Jan 10 02:32:58 it's dark here. Jan 10 02:32:59 Should i try yours? Jan 10 02:33:01 Hehe Jan 10 02:33:11 if you want. Jan 10 02:33:26 btw. passing the lock seems easy Jan 10 02:33:37 only press the power button few times. Jan 10 02:33:39 works here. Jan 10 02:34:02 ok, thanks for the tip Jan 10 02:34:33 what do you think about this? http://code.google.com/p/scientific-calculator-for-android/ Jan 10 02:36:07 looks handy Jan 10 02:44:10 that was fairly easy:) Jan 10 02:44:25 So, i guess not much working in here yet Jan 10 02:44:44 that#s true Jan 10 02:44:51 btw. what are you trying? Jan 10 02:44:55 master or eclair? Jan 10 02:45:23 eclair Jan 10 02:45:30 oh Jan 10 02:45:42 I wasn't aware of master Jan 10 02:45:49 hm Jan 10 02:45:57 you can't sleep too, right? Jan 10 02:46:02 it's 3:45 here. Jan 10 02:46:03 correct Jan 10 02:46:11 yeah, same here Jan 10 02:46:35 Should i be trying master? Jan 10 02:47:10 I am working on master Jan 10 02:47:19 I build eclair for testing Jan 10 02:47:31 to see if the error appears also there Jan 10 02:47:36 I see Jan 10 02:47:41 but you can try something before Jan 10 02:47:44 run Calculator Jan 10 02:48:14 lol Jan 10 02:48:27 try 1+0 Jan 10 02:48:32 nice calculation Jan 10 02:48:45 do you get 2^32? Jan 10 02:49:25 4294967296 Jan 10 02:49:34 2^32 Jan 10 02:49:38 5 + 5 is funnier Jan 10 02:49:55 that's 5*2^32 + 5*2^32 Jan 10 02:52:02 hmm Jan 10 02:53:27 are problems like these normal when porting? Jan 10 02:54:03 no idea, we didn't have this kind of problem with cupcake **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jan 10 02:59:56 2010