**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 13 02:59:57 2010 Jan 13 03:02:42 yes. Jan 13 03:02:51 but not continously. Jan 13 03:03:08 my dailies and weeklies are cupcake Jan 13 03:03:28 master/eclair is much experimental. Jan 13 03:07:09 I don't see any reason to publish what I have Jan 13 08:20:08 Morning. Jan 13 11:57:07 Hi Serdar Jan 13 11:57:14 does the wifi work on eclair Jan 13 11:57:16 tree? Jan 13 12:45:12 panicking: has anything changed re charging lately? (say since mid december)? Jan 13 12:45:31 if I plug in the fr in the evening, in the morning the battery is flat (with the charger plugged in) Jan 13 12:47:05 disable suspend Jan 13 12:47:08 when is plugged Jan 13 12:47:10 can you tru Jan 13 12:47:12 try Jan 13 12:47:12 ? Jan 13 12:53:05 what exactly does that mean? Jan 13 12:53:15 should it be on the main screen? Jan 13 12:53:38 I don't have it turned "off" (you know with both buttons at the same time pressed) Jan 13 12:53:43 with the black screen Jan 13 12:58:28 the FR doesn't go in suspend (the black screen) automatically when the charger is plugged in. I disabled that in one of the menus Jan 13 13:05:53 anybody knows what files I should copy from the build directory to the sdcard to run what I have built ? I tried in various ways but all fail to start the installer Jan 13 13:06:24 or maybe there is a script that can do that ? Jan 13 13:08:58 how are the official archives on google code made ? Jan 13 13:09:47 I think serdar does that Jan 13 13:15:39 I wonder, nobody else has try-ed yet to use their own kernel.img ? Jan 13 13:16:11 I think some people have Jan 13 13:16:24 I think you need the .img files (and perhaps some more) Jan 13 13:17:51 I have them, I just build them but if copy those img files over the old ones, it still does not work Jan 13 13:18:11 you mean on the sd-card and then reboot with reinstall? Jan 13 13:18:37 yes, exactly Jan 13 13:21:03 hmm Jan 13 13:21:07 perhaps something else is missing? Jan 13 13:21:17 what other files are in the .tgz (from the google page)? Jan 13 13:23:56 only qi.img Jan 13 13:24:32 but that is the only file that is the same for some months Jan 13 13:36:24 there is more. Jan 13 13:36:28 mrning btw. Jan 13 13:36:31 morning Jan 13 13:37:45 uImage uImage.bin qi.img and boot/uImage-GTA02.bin Jan 13 13:38:17 Serdar, I made a small script http://deep-blue.ro/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=installer_script Jan 13 13:38:24 can you check it ? Jan 13 13:42:16 hmm good question.I think this wouldn't work, have you tried it? Jan 13 13:42:29 yes, I did Jan 13 13:42:44 did it work? Jan 13 13:43:17 in many variants - it just loaded the kernel from the card Jan 13 13:43:39 then it hangs with the Android icon Jan 13 13:44:03 did it work? yes no? Jan 13 13:44:10 no Jan 13 13:44:16 hm Jan 13 13:44:43 koolu isn't more and nobody has an idea how this installer works. Jan 13 13:50:26 but how are the .tar.bz files from Google Code built ? Jan 13 13:50:48 2.1 sdk is available now. Jan 13 13:51:09 I am taking the same baseDir Jan 13 13:51:50 hello Jan 13 13:51:57 hi Jan 13 13:52:16 I have chance to look at script. Jan 13 13:52:57 what? Jan 13 13:53:12 You should put new kernel only to /root directory Jan 13 13:53:33 but not to installer all installer SD Jan 13 13:54:15 I talk about rteodor question Jan 13 13:55:09 this script does not work, rteodor told me. Jan 13 13:55:25 I undestend Jan 13 13:56:04 He make an error when mix installer kernel and new aof kernel Jan 13 13:57:27 ran000, I did not catch it, you man not to mix uImage with kernel.img ? Jan 13 13:58:11 I compared the files in from google code, and they are the same Jan 13 13:59:49 There is some difference how init work for installer and for working kernel Jan 13 13:59:52 out/target/product/fr/kernel.img and out/target/product/fr/obj/KERNEL/arch/arm/boot/uImage are the same. Jan 13 14:01:44 when I produce SDbased AoF it was main problem to avoid iserted init Jan 13 14:09:59 so, kernel.img is the run kernel, and uImage* is the installer kernel ? Jan 13 14:11:43 yes. Jan 13 14:12:08 I see now Jan 13 14:12:15 or better to say there are 3 installer kernel Jan 13 14:12:53 git://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_installer.git maybe you can have a look at this. Jan 13 14:13:49 so, it should be ok to just keep the old uImage* files, I'll try this way Jan 13 14:14:16 repo init -u git://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_manifest.git -b installer Jan 13 15:01:54 I have updated the script, and now it works Jan 13 15:03:03 the git at koolu is timed out, so I can not do repo sync Jan 13 15:03:41 it works anyway with older qi.img and older uImage&friends Jan 13 15:07:56 do you want publish builds? Jan 13 15:08:53 btw. do you want test spomething for me? :> Jan 13 15:17:02 I wanted to test Debian on Android, but I needed a kernel recompile Jan 13 15:20:33 wtf? Jan 13 15:20:38 debian on Android? Jan 13 15:20:56 you don't want to that?? Jan 13 15:22:44 actually, I wanted to have Midnight Commander, so I deeded glib, but yesterday jancona pointed me to that project Jan 13 15:24:38 It works on HTC, but it seems to be compiled for armv4t, so I decided to give it a try Jan 13 15:27:32 glib? Jan 13 15:28:16 mc depends on glib Jan 13 15:29:21 but why do you want mc? Jan 13 15:36:40 my ambition to do something, and the use I have with it Jan 13 15:37:12 I would try something else, like scummVM Jan 13 15:40:52 does it run Battle for Wesnoth ? Jan 13 15:41:20 :) Jan 13 15:41:44 I guess we would need glamo to run properly first ... Jan 13 15:45:09 I am usually doing hardware and low level software ... Java and other OOP languages does not warm me up too much Jan 13 15:45:27 still, I like the look&feel of Android Jan 13 15:48:01 I'd like to make an oscilloscope from my FR ..., if I would had the time Jan 13 15:48:15 hm Jan 13 15:48:38 I would prefer getting eclair work before doing anything else. Jan 13 15:52:32 I'll try Eclair in the next few days Jan 13 15:52:50 is there a TODO list for it ? Jan 13 15:53:09 no/yes Jan 13 15:53:18 we have a issue list Jan 13 15:53:24 but it's all mixed up Jan 13 15:53:36 there are cupcake and eclair problems. Jan 13 15:53:51 but I was trying get sensors work. Jan 13 15:54:06 they work faster in eclair but it's still two sided. Jan 13 15:55:20 speaking of the issue list: it looks like a mess to me Jan 13 15:55:35 it is. Jan 13 15:55:36 I can not track it Jan 13 15:56:05 and I guess may other people see it like this Jan 13 15:56:15 I can't change a thing there. Jan 13 15:57:51 so you know many things about android programming? Jan 13 15:58:37 I would say I just started to peek on it Jan 13 15:59:23 I have startet peek on it for few months but I guess I am not very familar with large projects. Jan 13 15:59:48 didn't get anything finished what I wanted to do. Jan 13 16:00:50 I am haunting my food now, see ya. Jan 13 16:00:55 it is a huge project for any individual Jan 13 16:01:35 ok, nice talking to you Jan 13 17:00:27 Serdar2: ping Jan 13 17:02:41 pong Jan 13 17:07:21 ColdFyre, pong Jan 13 17:07:32 rteodor, yeah but I didn't gave up now. Jan 13 17:18:00 jancona, we havew a problem with all projects, who are linked to koolu. Jan 13 17:41:23 Serdar2, I was thinking at the issue with the issues: maybe their labels can be prefixed like [wifi][ui]unresponsive, from a common list of prefixes Jan 13 17:42:01 it may be a little messy Jan 13 17:43:05 hm Jan 13 17:43:10 issue of issues Jan 13 17:43:43 :)) Jan 13 17:43:51 it was just an ideea Jan 13 17:44:11 create an issue about that. Jan 13 17:44:30 or larlin can do something. Jan 13 17:44:34 larlin, ping? Jan 13 18:04:22 Serdar: What projects are linked to koolu? Jan 13 18:04:30 installer Jan 13 18:04:39 but I don't know if there is much more Jan 13 18:04:52 No, we have a copy at Gitorious Jan 13 18:05:17 sure? Jan 13 18:05:29 http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_installer Jan 13 18:05:55 then there is something broken Jan 13 18:06:12 I tried to sync -b installer Jan 13 18:06:27 With repo? Jan 13 18:06:35 sure Jan 13 18:06:38 we have a branch Jan 13 18:07:01 The installer isn't in any manifest Jan 13 18:07:15 http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_installer Jan 13 18:07:22 it says : Branches installer Jan 13 18:07:48 Just do git clone git://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_installer.git Jan 13 18:07:56 git checkout installer Jan 13 18:09:08 serdar@serdar-dere:~/installer$ repo sync Jan 13 18:09:08 git.koolu.org[0: 208.43.195.116]: errno=Connection timed out Jan 13 18:09:08 fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection timed out) Jan 13 18:09:08 error: Cannot fetch platform/bootable/bootloader/qi Jan 13 18:09:56 if I use git, then I get fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git Jan 13 18:09:58 You can't use repo Jan 13 18:10:30 the clone created a directory Jan 13 18:10:41 cd into it, then do the checkout Jan 13 18:11:03 fatal: You are on a branch yet to be born Jan 13 18:12:36 jancona, please click on source http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_installer Jan 13 18:12:50 Source tree Jan 13 18:14:15 it seems broken to me. Jan 13 18:14:50 git checkout origin/installer Jan 13 18:15:08 I just got a Debian running on an Android that is running on a Freerunner :) Jan 13 18:15:21 rteodor: Cool! Jan 13 18:16:52 Serdar2: Did that work? Jan 13 18:17:29 serdar@serdar-dere:~/installer/freerunner_platform_installer$ git checkout origin/installer Jan 13 18:17:29 Note: moving to 'origin/installer' which isn't a local branch Jan 13 18:17:29 If you want to create a new branch from this checkout, you may do so Jan 13 18:17:29 (now or later) by using -b with the checkout command again. Example: Jan 13 18:17:29 git checkout -b Jan 13 18:17:30 HEAD is now at d2ea263... Make sure we don't keep booting from SD Jan 13 18:17:58 That's it Jan 13 18:18:25 I don't know if it's buildable or not Jan 13 18:18:36 it's only a Makefile Jan 13 18:18:45 Someone would have to reverse engineer the Makefile Jan 13 18:19:19 iirc there was more oO" Jan 13 18:20:22 I don't think so. I grabbed everything I could find off the Koolu site when I set up the project Jan 13 18:20:29 log time ago I tried the installer and spoke with m2 about it. Jan 13 18:21:47 I see. Jan 13 18:22:00 SUBDIRS= busybox mtd-utils kernel bootloader Jan 13 18:22:09 these projects must be sub dirs there. Jan 13 18:22:31 is it possible that they will be fetched there too or must I do tht? Jan 13 18:22:35 that? Jan 13 18:23:17 No they are separate Git repositories. Jan 13 18:23:46 ah that's why we need repo?! Jan 13 18:23:48 You'll have to clone each of them and put them in the right places Jan 13 18:24:18 It would be nice if he had used repo, but I don't think he did Jan 13 18:24:48 he did, it was the installer branch Jan 13 18:25:15 and this installer branch does exist at gitorious too, but with wrong links. Jan 13 18:25:16 Right, I see it now. Jan 13 18:25:25 Give me a sec and I'll fix it Jan 13 18:25:26 that was what I am talking :/ Jan 13 18:25:46 Sorry, I didn't get that Jan 13 18:25:49 [19:07] http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_installer Jan 13 18:25:50 [19:07] it says : Branches installer Jan 13 18:25:52 see :O Jan 13 18:28:54 jancona, can you add prebuild there too please? Jan 13 18:42:06 What's prebuild Jan 13 18:42:29 toolchain Jan 13 18:43:17 this Makefile is much specialized to a specific envoirement. Jan 13 18:45:42 error: revision installer in platform_external_busybox not found Jan 13 18:50:36 Serdar2: rm -rf busybox/ Jan 13 18:50:50 Then repo init and sync again Jan 13 18:52:34 Instead of pulling down all of prebuild, just point KOOLU_CROSS_COMPILE at the toolchain in the main tree Jan 13 18:53:54 maybe not everyone want to download the main tree. Jan 13 18:56:24 I've got work to do. You make the change and send me a patch Jan 13 19:27:40 that's much more broken then I thought Jan 13 20:01:07 Serdar2, the labels should be possible to fix Jan 13 21:00:43 larlin, that's fine. Jan 13 21:00:49 larlin, hi anyway Jan 13 21:00:55 Aitch_, hi. Jan 13 21:01:37 Hi Serdar2 Jan 13 21:02:15 but not now need to get up early tomorrow can you remind me in the weekend or next week if I forget? Jan 13 21:02:40 I have many things to do at weekend because of red cross. Jan 13 21:02:54 ahh Jan 13 21:03:10 I can write you a memo Jan 13 21:03:41 that sounds good Jan 13 21:03:53 need to go to bed now see you later! Jan 13 21:04:53 so send him a memo. Jan 13 21:04:59 Aitch_, how's doing? Jan 13 21:05:39 Good but fading fast. Busy at work :( Jan 13 21:05:49 & you? Jan 13 21:06:17 I beginning to hate the installer. Jan 13 21:07:02 I need to read the archive & see what you've been uo to. Jan 13 21:07:16 up Jan 13 21:07:43 jancona set up the installer. Jan 13 21:08:14 Cool, but giving you problems? Jan 13 21:08:22 oh many. Jan 13 21:09:15 It would be nice to have control over the installer though. Jan 13 21:10:02 the problem is, this installer is a pretty hack. Jan 13 21:10:13 pretty bad I mean. Jan 13 21:10:55 Is it in source? Jan 13 21:11:09 yes Jan 13 21:11:12 -b installer Jan 13 21:11:56 I'll have a look Jan 13 21:12:21 you need to fix many things first. Jan 13 21:12:39 If I would give you my diff it would not help... Jan 13 21:12:53 I'd like to understand how it works Jan 13 21:14:10 http://pastebin.com/m2c4ae15f Jan 13 21:15:07 http://dpaste.com/144820/ Jan 13 21:20:54 Thanks, I've done a repo sync as well Jan 13 21:21:09 Talk later **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 14 02:59:57 2010