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Jan 28 08:29:14 <mvzaanen> Morning
Jan 28 08:50:49 <Serdar> hey mvzaanen
Jan 28 08:50:53 <mvzaanen> hi
Jan 28 08:51:01 <Serdar> do you know a good speaker for fosdem? :)
Jan 28 08:51:16 <mvzaanen> uhm
Jan 28 08:51:17 <mvzaanen> to do what?
Jan 28 08:51:18 <Serdar> we need one who can represent our project.
Jan 28 08:51:18 <mvzaanen> you?
Jan 28 08:51:19 <mvzaanen> :D
Jan 28 08:51:27 <Serdar> not in english.
Jan 28 08:51:41 <Serdar> my english is  really bad, I can do it in german, but english...
Jan 28 08:51:54 <mvzaanen> is jim coming?
Jan 28 08:51:58 <Serdar> nope
Jan 28 08:52:00 <mvzaanen> he speaks english, right?
Jan 28 08:52:00 <mvzaanen> oh
Jan 28 08:52:11 <mvzaanen> who else is going?
Jan 28 08:52:32 <Serdar> he lives in california, so I guess he don't speak english, but this american english stuff.
Jan 28 08:52:41 <mvzaanen> ah yeah
Jan 28 08:52:42 <mvzaanen> or spanish
Jan 28 08:52:51 <mvzaanen> but that doesn't help if he's not going :D
Jan 28 08:52:53 <Serdar> larlin, niels, michael and me.
Jan 28 08:53:14 <Serdar> don't know much more
Jan 28 08:53:32 <Serdar> have you look at the mailing list this morning?
Jan 28 08:53:46 <mvzaanen> yeah
Jan 28 08:53:52 <mvzaanen> I was just reading it
Jan 28 08:55:04 <mvzaanen> I need to go for a bit
Jan 28 08:55:05 <Serdar> and you are not coming because of family right?
Jan 28 08:55:07 <mvzaanen> and afterwards lecture
Jan 28 08:55:20 <mvzaanen> yeah
Jan 28 08:55:25 <mvzaanen> and I have a conference directly before
Jan 28 08:55:27 <mvzaanen> bbiab
Jan 28 08:55:40 <Serdar> it's for sunday :)
Jan 28 08:55:43 <Serdar> have fun :)
Jan 28 09:28:19 <rteodor> I have adb shell "cat /system/etc/resolv.conf"
Jan 28 09:28:26 <rteodor> that gives nameserver 192.168.0.200
Jan 28 09:29:12 <rteodor> but name resolution does not seem to work with usb networking
Jan 28 09:32:49 <rteodor> ping to intrenet adresses works
Jan 28 09:34:39 <Serdar> what distribution?
Jan 28 09:34:48 <Serdar> say mac os x 10.6 :)
Jan 28 09:34:55 <Serdar> do it :)
Jan 28 09:37:16 <rteodor> on my pc I use slackware
Jan 28 09:38:43 <rteodor> I wanted to test AndNav over with usb networking because the wlan is slow, near to unusable
Jan 28 09:39:48 <rteodor> the fact that wlan is very slow is my guess ...
Jan 28 09:40:05 <Serdar> you want do some debugging right?
Jan 28 09:40:36 <Serdar> ah I se.
Jan 28 09:40:39 <Serdar> see
Jan 28 09:42:43 <rteodor> i just need to know where shall I put a nameserver
Jan 28 09:43:13 <Serdar> hmm nameservers should be placed in resolv.conf, that's correct.
Jan 28 09:43:45 <Serdar> btw. are you arie?
Jan 28 09:44:14 <rteodor> arie ? what is that ?
Jan 28 09:44:54 <Serdar> the guy who asked in the mailing list, but I guess, you are not.
Jan 28 09:45:12 <Serdar> so need to go, university is not waiting...
Jan 28 09:45:17 <Serdar> see ya.
Jan 28 09:45:45 <rteodor> ok, bye
Jan 28 12:15:00 <hipitihop> anyone tried or running the eclair build ?
Jan 28 12:15:53 <Serdar> hello
Jan 28 12:15:59 <Serdar> hey larlin
Jan 28 12:16:11 <larlin> Serdar, hello
Jan 28 12:16:43 <Serdar> larlin, you are selected as representive for AoF on FOSDEM :)
Jan 28 12:17:18 <larlin> what no I don't have time for that
Jan 28 12:17:54 <Serdar> no time, thought you are at fosdem.
Jan 28 12:19:28 <hipitihop> Hi Serdar .. so is Eclair a working build on FR ?
Jan 28 12:19:57 <Serdar> it is testing and slow atm
Jan 28 12:20:02 <Serdar> but we work on it.
Jan 28 12:20:21 <Serdar> I produced some builds.
Jan 28 12:20:47 <hipitihop> cool ... when you say slow, you mean slower then cupcake ?
Jan 28 12:21:44 <Serdar> the sensors are faster, and the keyboard is faster
Jan 28 12:21:47 <Serdar> the glamo is slower
Jan 28 12:22:01 <Serdar> there is lot work to do.
Jan 28 12:22:50 <hipitihop> well keep chipping away, thanks for the good efforts.
Jan 28 12:23:39 <Serdar> we will try to change things at fosdem
Jan 28 12:49:47 <rteodor> Serdar, are you there ?
Jan 28 12:49:53 <Serdar> yes
Jan 28 12:50:13 <rteodor> I just got a soft reboot from andnav
Jan 28 12:50:42 <rteodor> if you need some logs ... while it is hot
Jan 28 12:51:04 <Serdar> yeah. need some checkouts
Jan 28 12:52:22 <rteodor> checkouts ? i am afraid i do not understand
Jan 28 12:52:40 <rteodor> logcat maybe
Jan 28 12:52:43 <rteodor> ?
Jan 28 12:52:54 <Serdar> I need to check it out.
Jan 28 12:53:15 <Serdar> the logs you send me and the problem why. etc.
Jan 28 12:54:08 <rteodor> ok, i will replay to your email
Jan 28 13:07:28 <rteodor> hm, i think i figured what was the problem: it fails if I try to preload a very large area, probably it runs out of ram
Jan 28 13:08:14 <rteodor> at 80 m zoom scale, does not crash
Jan 28 13:09:02 <rteodor> but it crashes when there are a few countries in the screen
Jan 28 13:09:56 <rteodor> in both cases, i my choice for preload detail was 16
Jan 28 13:12:06 <Serdar> okay, so it works?
Jan 28 13:12:10 <Serdar> with 16?
Jan 28 13:12:29 <Serdar> or do I need some research.
Jan 28 13:12:41 <rteodor> for 80m scale, yes
Jan 28 13:13:11 <Serdar> is it useable with 80m?
Jan 28 13:14:11 <rteodor> yes
Jan 28 13:14:32 <Serdar> hmm.
Jan 28 13:14:53 <Serdar> I will build today one for eclair too.
Jan 28 13:14:59 <Serdar> this one will have tts.
Jan 28 13:15:06 <Serdar> but sound is a problem with eclair atm
Jan 28 13:15:23 <Serdar> but first we need some discussions about fosdem, that'S really important.
Jan 28 13:15:38 <Serdar> need to go now, see you later.
Jan 28 13:16:22 <rteodor> ok, bye
Jan 28 15:12:46 <Serdar> hi
Jan 28 15:36:03 <Serdar> jancona, ping?
Jan 28 15:39:04 <jancona> Hi Serdar
Jan 28 16:45:35 <Serdar> jancona, do you have some time at 23 gmt+1?
Jan 28 16:48:48 <jancona> Probably can, to do what?
Jan 28 16:49:26 <Serdar> help to prepare some points for a presentation
Jan 28 16:50:46 <jancona> I can do IRC at that time
Jan 28 16:51:07 <jancona> I'm at work, so I can't easily do voice
Jan 28 16:51:31 <Serdar> you are gmt-8 right?
Jan 28 16:51:44 <jancona> No, GMT-5
Jan 28 16:52:11 <Serdar> than it will be 17 O'Clock there
Jan 28 16:52:17 <jancona> Right
Jan 28 16:52:20 <Serdar> you are working till?
Jan 28 16:53:01 <panicking> ok so jancona can help us writing on the irc
Jan 28 16:53:20 <Serdar> if that'S the case we can use an earlier time.
Jan 28 16:53:36 <jancona> I can probably be home around 1800 here/midnight there
Jan 28 16:53:41 <Serdar> for example 20 O'Clock so we can talk more
Jan 28 16:54:01 <Serdar> hm
Jan 28 16:54:20 <panicking> ok 24 gmt+
Jan 28 16:54:22 <panicking> +2
Jan 28 16:54:25 <panicking> +1
Jan 28 16:54:31 <panicking> so 6 oclock
Jan 28 16:54:33 <panicking> for jim
Jan 28 16:54:45 <Serdar> drive fast, be
Jan 28 16:54:49 <Serdar> but secure
Jan 28 16:54:56 <Serdar> :D
Jan 28 16:55:06 <jancona> Sounds good
Jan 28 16:55:23 <Serdar> okay I send a new mail
Jan 28 16:56:29 <Serdar> with a new time
Jan 28 16:56:45 <Serdar> jancona, I have installed murmur 1.2.0, a mumble server on serdar-dere.nt
Jan 28 16:56:47 <Serdar> .net
Jan 28 16:56:57 <Serdar> so we can use mumble for talking.
Jan 28 16:57:21 <Serdar> michael mentioned skype, but I don't know if that will work for 6+ people
Jan 28 17:00:14 <panicking> ok but I don';t have time to recompile
Jan 28 17:00:17 <panicking> mumble
Jan 28 17:00:22 <panicking> in this u-buntu distribuition
Jan 28 17:01:05 <panicking> let me check
Jan 28 17:04:05 <panicking> I'm compiling it
Jan 28 17:05:33 <jancona> Ubuntu karmic has the 1.1.8 client. That doesn't work?
Jan 28 17:06:12 <panicking> now
Jan 28 17:06:17 <panicking> I'm compiling the 1.2
Jan 28 17:06:18 <panicking> and check
Jan 28 17:06:23 <Serdar> okay
Jan 28 17:06:26 <panicking> I have installed libboost
Jan 28 17:06:28 <panicking> and libogg
Jan 28 17:06:48 <Serdar> the big deal of mumble is qt.
Jan 28 17:06:56 <Serdar> you need it for the server too.
Jan 28 17:06:58 <panicking> I have compiled it
Jan 28 17:06:59 <Serdar> that is hard
Jan 28 18:10:49 <Serdar> jancona, I vote for removeing voicedialer till we solve it.
Jan 28 18:10:56 <Serdar> get it working.
Jan 28 21:36:31 <Serdar> larlin, ping?
Jan 28 21:36:46 <larlin> Serdar, pong
Jan 28 21:37:00 <Serdar> larlin, have you seen the email?
Jan 28 21:37:08 <larlin> yes
Jan 28 21:37:31 <Serdar> you have time?
Jan 28 21:38:20 <Serdar> we can use skype now, because niels and michael got problems with mumble 1.2.0 and harry isn't coming
Jan 28 21:38:51 <Serdar> i would prefer mumble, but if it's hard to use for anybody else we can leave it.
Jan 28 21:40:31 <larlin> why can't you install a server version that works with packadged versions?
Jan 28 21:40:57 <Serdar> I can go down to 1.1.8 and we can try
Jan 28 21:41:30 <larlin> that sounds best for me atleast
Jan 28 21:41:46 <larlin> I would like to avoid Skype if possible
Jan 28 21:42:49 <Serdar> yeah
Jan 28 21:43:05 <Serdar> but I would prefer 1.2.x :)
Jan 28 21:43:14 <Serdar> because of the changes it's nice :)
Jan 28 21:43:50 <Serdar> btw. you may want to try http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/fosdem-android.apk too :)
Jan 28 21:45:01 <larlin> okay will test works on cupcake?
Jan 28 21:45:38 <Serdar> yes
Jan 28 21:46:01 <Serdar> I tested it on cupcake
Jan 28 21:46:07 <Serdar> didn't build it for eclair now
Jan 28 21:47:34 <larlin> k
Jan 28 21:48:58 <larlin> need to fix internet connection before that works but neat
Jan 28 22:01:57 <Serdar> now I can't start murmur :)
Jan 28 22:05:15 <Serdar> hi juan_arandaalvar
Jan 28 22:05:29 <juan_arandaalvar> Hi serdar
Jan 28 22:05:38 <juan_arandaalvar> Is been a really hectic week
Jan 28 22:06:00 <Serdar> oh yeah
Jan 28 22:06:26 <juan_arandaalvar> I cannot understant openembedded, there must be something wrong with me
Jan 28 22:06:35 <juan_arandaalvar> on the Android side
Jan 28 22:06:53 <juan_arandaalvar> I found out that there is shuch a thing as the Android PDK
Jan 28 22:07:10 <juan_arandaalvar> That link should be on the "Android on the freerunner" wiki page
Jan 28 22:07:25 <juan_arandaalvar> It explains the stuff you need to build (and port) Android
Jan 28 22:07:35 <juan_arandaalvar> And it should be in HUGE letters
Jan 28 22:08:16 <Serdar> which link?
Jan 28 22:08:24 <Serdar> we only use huge friendly letter.
Jan 28 22:09:14 <juan_arandaalvar> http://pdk.android.com/online-pdk/guide/index.html
Jan 28 22:11:58 <Serdar> downgrading murmur sucks pretty much
Jan 28 22:12:04 <Serdar> https://launchpad.net/~slicer/+archive/ppa
Jan 28 22:12:17 <Serdar> this could help, I need to upgrade to 1.2.1 again
Jan 28 22:12:48 <Serdar> juan_arandaalvar, nice. will have a look the next days, maybe at fosdem :)
Jan 28 22:33:04 <Serdar> larlin, I upgraded to 1.2.1
Jan 28 22:33:11 <Serdar> so you maybe need 1.2.1 too
Jan 28 22:33:32 <larlin> well then I would need to build it and I really really don't want to do that
Jan 28 22:33:50 <Serdar> which distribution?
Jan 28 22:35:05 <larlin> I'm using ubuntu 64 bit
Jan 28 22:35:28 <Serdar> the link is for you too
Jan 28 22:35:41 <Serdar> adding to sources.list and stuff
Jan 28 22:43:09 <larlin> yeah seems to work
Jan 28 22:49:48 <Serdar> larlin, you can join?
Jan 28 23:33:06 <jancona> Hi I just in--bad weather on the drive home
Jan 28 23:33:28 <panicking> hi
Jan 28 23:33:35 <panicking> we are connected on mumble
Jan 28 23:33:41 <panicking> do you have a karmic
Jan 28 23:33:43 <panicking> u-buntu
Jan 28 23:33:47 <panicking> distribuition
Jan 28 23:33:48 <panicking> ?
Jan 28 23:34:52 <panicking> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
Jan 28 23:34:58 <panicking> add this in sources.list
Jan 28 23:34:59 <panicking> and
Jan 28 23:35:04 <jancona> Yes I'm just installing mumble now
Jan 28 23:35:14 <panicking> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com DE62F7B1165B2836
Jan 28 23:35:16 <nhv_> cool
Jan 28 23:35:22 <panicking> and this one to have the last version
Jan 28 23:35:34 <nhv_> we're all in so get on board
Jan 28 23:35:48 <jancona> Okay, give me a minute then
Jan 28 23:42:46 <jancona> Okay Mumble is installed and I've configured sound
Jan 28 23:43:31 <jancona> How do I connect?
Jan 28 23:43:36 <Serdar> serdar-dere.net
Jan 28 23:44:23 <jancona> What username do I use?
Jan 28 23:44:35 <Serdar> what do you want
Jan 28 23:44:38 <Serdar> maybe jancona
Jan 28 23:44:47 <Serdar> it's a simple one
Jan 28 23:47:51 <larlin> jancona, do you hear us?
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