**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 01 02:59:56 2010
Feb 01 09:11:49 <mvzaanen> Morning, all.
Feb 01 09:13:08 <Serdar> morning mvzaanen
Feb 01 12:44:46 <ecraven> hm.. i've created a 3 gb fat partition, unpacked rc1, and it keeps showing the aof logo, no flashing android text
Feb 01 12:44:59 <ecraven> any way to enable kernel messages? i'd like to see *why* it doesn't boot
Feb 01 14:14:30 <Serdar> hi
Feb 01 15:20:49 <pavobaxter> hi all
Feb 01 15:22:44 <Serdar> hi
Feb 01 16:01:07 <Serdar> ecraven, mac os x?
Feb 01 16:13:43 <ecraven> Serdar: no, arch linux
Feb 01 16:13:53 <Serdar> hmm
Feb 01 16:14:01 <ecraven> Serdar: ran's image that boots from sd card works fine
Feb 01 16:14:16 <Serdar> hm
Feb 01 16:14:26 <ecraven> but the installer doesn't (and didn't, every weekly i've tried and even 0.1 do not work for me)
Feb 01 16:14:27 <Serdar> who was it with mac os x except me...
Feb 01 16:14:40 <Serdar> huh?
Feb 01 16:14:45 <Serdar> are you going to fosdem?
Feb 01 16:14:56 <Serdar> btw. please use RC1
Feb 01 16:16:37 <ecraven> i am using rc1 :)
Feb 01 16:16:53 <ecraven> and as i said, i *cannot* use the normal images.. is there no way to see kernel messages when booting??
Feb 01 16:18:32 <Serdar> do you have a debug board?
Feb 01 16:19:02 <ecraven> no
Feb 01 16:19:10 <ecraven> other distros can do this, why can't we?
Feb 01 16:24:12 <Serdar> no idea, I never needed so didn't research it.
Feb 01 16:29:03 <stongo> hello
Feb 01 16:42:32 <stongo> anyone tried the new RC?
Feb 01 16:42:36 <stongo> it's pretty sweet
Feb 01 16:43:08 <stongo> I just haven't had an opportunity to try the call volume. i'm really interested if it's fixed
Feb 01 16:50:39 <Serdar> we are trying things.
Feb 01 16:50:44 <Serdar> but atm it's all.
Feb 01 16:54:07 <stongo> i live outside of cellphone reception range, so can't test the volume on calls
Feb 01 16:54:13 <stongo> everything else seems to work great
Feb 01 16:54:19 <stongo> it's so much faster
Feb 01 17:04:19 <stongo> I can't connect with adb anymore.. that's strange
Feb 01 17:04:28 <stongo> has anything changed for connecting via adb?
Feb 01 17:05:27 <Serdar> no it isn't adb is disabled
Feb 01 17:05:31 <Serdar> you need to enable it.
Feb 01 17:05:51 <Serdar> settings->application->development->usb debugging
Feb 01 17:06:17 <stongo> thanks serdar
Feb 01 17:06:33 <Serdar> but don't forget to disable it, security factor.
Feb 01 17:07:24 <stongo> good point. I guess anyone could hack in via wifi... no pass
Feb 01 17:09:39 <stongo> are there any chat programs similar to pidgeon?
Feb 01 17:10:28 <Serdar> hmm
Feb 01 17:10:30 <Serdar> no idea
Feb 01 17:10:32 <Serdar> maybe
Feb 01 17:11:34 <stongo> I tried installing gtalk from the htc dream devpackage, but it's missing dependencies
Feb 01 17:11:49 <stongo> i'll just have to check it out
Feb 01 17:12:13 <stongo> just thought i'd congratulate everyone working on this project. I've been testing android on and off since it started on FR
Feb 01 17:12:35 <stongo> this is by far the best release
Feb 01 17:13:03 <Serdar> what protocolls are you useing?
Feb 01 17:13:12 <Serdar> icq, jabber??
Feb 01 17:14:07 <stongo> gmail, msn
Feb 01 17:14:18 <Serdar> what's gmail?
Feb 01 17:14:23 <Serdar> google mail?
Feb 01 17:14:41 <stongo> yah, gtalk I guess
Feb 01 17:14:51 <stongo> whatever the gmail chat is called
Feb 01 17:18:17 <stongo> have you tried any terminal apps?
Feb 01 17:20:47 <Serdar> nope
Feb 01 17:21:05 <Serdar> I am not trying on applications.
Feb 01 17:22:14 <Serdar> try this http://slideme.org/application/ebuddy-0
Feb 01 17:28:52 <stongo> that app looks like exactly what I want
Feb 01 17:28:53 <stongo> thanks!
Feb 01 17:34:48 <Serdar> does it work?
Feb 01 17:35:44 <stongo> yup, just installedit
Feb 01 17:36:09 <stongo> installed it
Feb 01 17:36:28 <stongo> and just about to try connectbot, an open-source ssh client
Feb 01 17:41:40 <Serdar> ecraven, there?
Feb 01 18:28:24 <Serdar> jancona, macosx is not thell supported...
Feb 01 18:33:50 <jancona> Serdar: Not supported for what?
Feb 01 18:35:11 <Serdar> s/thell/well
Feb 01 18:35:27 <Serdar> for example the prebuilt
Feb 01 18:36:02 <Serdar> make is looking for armv4t-android-eabi-4.2.1 but a arm-eabi-4.2.1 exist.
Feb 01 18:39:42 <th0br0> Serdar: heya. mind giving me the link again? (oh and did you get the recorder?
Feb 01 18:39:48 <Serdar> I am doing some changes now.
Feb 01 18:39:59 <Serdar> oh yo uremind me on that.
Feb 01 18:40:03 <Serdar> link of what?
Feb 01 18:40:16 <th0br0> fosdem-android or so?
Feb 01 18:40:33 <Serdar> serdar-dere.net/~serdar
Feb 01 18:40:41 <th0br0> o0k
Feb 01 18:45:02 <jancona> Serdar, what are you trying to build?
Feb 01 18:45:09 <Serdar> android itself
Feb 01 18:45:12 <Serdar> aof
Feb 01 18:45:26 <Serdar> I got java 5 successfully installed
Feb 01 18:45:33 <Serdar> now I want try it.
Feb 01 18:46:55 <Serdar> I am uploading a diff
Feb 01 18:48:07 <Serdar> holla it's a large diff
Feb 01 18:48:36 <Serdar> 5.8M of text file :)
Feb 01 18:50:00 <Serdar> can you commit this? http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/master2.diff or do you have a better solution maybe change the name of gcc somewhere.
Feb 01 18:55:34 <Serdar> /bin/bash: prebuilt/darwin-x86/toolchain/armv4t-android-eabi-4.2.1/bin/armv4t-android-eabi-gcc: No such file or directory
Feb 01 18:56:28 <Serdar> but prebuilt/darwin-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.2.1/bin/arm-eabi-gcc exit
Feb 01 18:58:48 <Serdar> or I add some symlinks
Feb 01 19:10:27 <Serdar> oh hi mvzaanen
Feb 01 19:10:31 <mvzaanen> hey
Feb 01 19:10:39 <Serdar> see you so late :)
Feb 01 19:10:42 <mvzaanen> wazzup?
Feb 01 19:10:50 <mvzaanen> yeah, got more work to do
Feb 01 19:10:52 <mvzaanen> unfortunately
Feb 01 19:10:59 <Serdar> struggeling with mac os x
Feb 01 19:11:31 <Serdar> you've seen the announcement?
Feb 01 19:15:21 <mvzaanen> nope
Feb 01 19:15:35 <mvzaanen> on the mailinglist?
Feb 01 19:18:51 <Serdar> yes
Feb 01 19:19:13 <mvzaanen> ah, that announcement
Feb 01 19:19:15 <mvzaanen> the stable
Feb 01 19:21:36 <mvzaanen> hmmm
Feb 01 19:21:47 <mvzaanen> I don't mind installing that to be stable
Feb 01 19:21:53 <mvzaanen> but for my ebook reader
Feb 01 19:22:00 <mvzaanen> I don't know how to store the current state of that
Feb 01 19:22:04 <mvzaanen> which is always annoying
Feb 01 19:24:01 <Serdar> moment
Feb 01 19:27:50 <Serdar> http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/GetIt maybe something like this for contacts and mmssms
Feb 01 19:29:03 <mvzaanen> oh yeah.. that reminds me I should check the GSM firmware as well
Feb 01 19:32:58 <Serdar> hehe
Feb 01 19:38:36 <mvzaanen> that's just a hassle
Feb 01 19:38:46 <mvzaanen> I'll first have to take a look at some FSO-based distro
Feb 01 19:40:19 <Serdar> jancona, can you commit this, these are only symlinks http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/master2.diff
Feb 01 19:44:05 <Serdar> mvzaanen, if there is some with a better look than android I would help them, but I don't like this look of shr for example and the usage is strage too.
Feb 01 19:44:34 <mvzaanen> Im' pretty happy with android
Feb 01 19:44:47 <mvzaanen> it's just annoying that I need to install something else to fix GSM
Feb 01 19:44:52 <mvzaanen> anyway, I'll try to do that soonish
Feb 01 20:18:11 <jancona> Serdar: Can you build with that patch and run the result?
Feb 01 20:18:44 <Serdar> I built till mtd-util there it fails I guess I am missing some stuff
Feb 01 20:21:03 <jancona> You just symlinked armv4t-android-eabi-4.2.1/* to arm-eabi-4.2.1/* correct?
Feb 01 20:22:50 <Serdar> nope I also symlinked few files in arm-eabi-4.2.1
Feb 01 20:23:36 <Serdar> all the files in bin
Feb 01 20:24:15 <Serdar> or we need to change somewhere in the code armv4t-android- to arm-
Feb 01 20:24:20 <Serdar> but I don't know where
Feb 01 20:24:28 <Serdar> so I used this way it was simpler.
Feb 01 20:27:41 <jancona> Except that arm-eabi-4.2.1 doesn't work--Michael and I tried using it in Linux and binaries wouldn't boot, so we went back to the toolchain that Koolu added
Feb 01 20:30:57 <jancona> You can modify ./build/core/combo/linux-arm.mk line 43 if you want to experiment without the symlinks
Feb 01 20:38:28 <Serdar> http://pastebin.com/m20faf9a3
Feb 01 20:42:07 <Serdar> what is the difference between arm-eabi-4.2.1 and armv4t-android-eabi at linux?
Feb 01 20:43:30 <mvzaanen> I think it's time for me to get some sleep
Feb 01 20:43:44 <Serdar> jancona, the problem is, there is no other toolchain for mac os x
Feb 01 20:43:54 <Serdar> good night mvzaanen
Feb 01 20:44:21 <mvzaanen> take care
Feb 01 20:47:56 <jancona> Serdar: I don't have an answer for you
Feb 01 20:48:22 <Serdar> hm
Feb 01 20:48:58 <Serdar> I guess I have to try it.
Feb 01 20:49:17 <Serdar> btw. what do you think about my link?
Feb 01 20:49:25 <Serdar> I am missing something right?
Feb 01 20:51:12 <Serdar> afk
Feb 01 20:55:07 <jancona> Somethings the matter with your include path
Feb 01 20:56:37 <jancona> It says byteswap.h is missing, but its there in ./bionic/libc/include/
Feb 01 20:58:29 <jancona> Oh wait, it's building mtd-utils for OS/X
Feb 01 20:58:39 <jancona> You might want to google for that
Feb 01 21:04:34 <jancona> Look at this: https://dev.openwrt.org/changeset/19158/trunk/tools/mtd-utils/patches/110-portability.patch
Feb 01 21:57:31 <Serdar> re
Feb 01 22:18:30 <Serdar> hmm this patch didn't change a thing here
Feb 01 22:18:43 <Serdar> I guess I am missing uboot stuff
Feb 01 22:18:59 <Serdar> it was uboot- in ubuntu
Feb 01 22:20:48 <Serdar> oh I guess this is confusing
Feb 01 22:21:07 <Serdar> for example external/mtd-utils/mtd-utils/rbtree.h
Feb 01 22:22:01 <Serdar> it is importing in line 94 <linux/kernel.h>
Feb 01 22:22:35 <Serdar> so I guess it's not looking at $android/kernel/include/linux/kernel.h but /usr/include/linux/kernel.h
Feb 01 22:39:18 <jancona> Right
Feb 02 00:14:19 <Serdar> good night
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