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Mar 25 19:09:04 <Azuvix> Okay, I'm stumped. Where can I get the kernel for Android?
Mar 25 19:13:25 <ColdFyre> ??
Mar 25 19:13:32 <ColdFyre> it's package in the images
Mar 25 19:14:00 <Azuvix> Ah, the OpenMoko tutorial wasn't 100% clear on that.
Mar 25 19:14:17 <Azuvix> Goes in the FAT partition?
Mar 25 19:14:59 <ColdFyre> what tutorial are you looking at?
Mar 25 19:15:17 <Azuvix> Just the one on the OpenMoko wiki. It looks a little dated.
Mar 25 19:15:57 <ColdFyre> http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/GetIt
Mar 25 19:16:01 <ColdFyre> follow that one
Mar 25 19:16:31 <ColdFyre> all of that is current
Mar 25 19:18:39 <Azuvix> Ah, good. Got the most current one.
Mar 25 19:23:22 <Azuvix> There we go.
Mar 25 19:23:29 <Azuvix> Guess it's doing its thing.
Mar 25 19:25:16 <Azuvix> That's probably the easiest installation I've been through...
Mar 25 19:25:36 <ColdFyre> ;)
Mar 25 19:26:00 <Azuvix> Does it have any real wifi issues? That was my biggest reason for the switch.
Mar 25 19:27:34 <Serdar> wifi works well on cupcake and moderate on eclair
Mar 25 19:33:25 <Azuvix> Wonderful, it did what I asked it to do. :)
Mar 25 19:35:58 <Azuvix> Now, only one more question. Did it overwrite my bootloader?
Mar 25 20:06:52 <Serdar> yes you do.
Mar 25 20:18:39 <hal14450> Azuvix, yes it overwrites the bootloader w/ Qi
Mar 25 20:19:54 <Azuvix> Yeah, I figured that out after trying to reboot the old way. lol
Mar 25 20:27:56 <Azuvix> Any sources for apps that you'd recommend?
Mar 25 20:28:35 <hal14450> i've been trying different distros so i'm not currently on android but connectbot was pretty cool
Mar 25 20:29:03 <hal14450> http://code.google.com/p/connectbot/
Mar 25 20:30:34 <Serdar> you are trying cupcake or eclair/master?
Mar 25 20:33:43 <Azuvix> cupcake.
Mar 25 20:40:31 <Serdar> hmm
Mar 25 20:41:09 <Azuvix> Definitely impressed.
Mar 25 20:42:04 <Serdar> I am looking for guys who want to test evlair
Mar 25 20:42:07 <Serdar> elcaier
Mar 25 20:42:09 <Serdar> args
Mar 25 20:42:12 <Serdar> eclair
Mar 25 20:42:13 <hal14450> cupcake is pretty nice
Mar 25 20:43:10 <hal14450> Serdar, i did run eclair for a week or two and liked it but i realy missed being able to multitask
Mar 25 20:43:34 <hal14450> qtmoko and shr both do that pretty well
Mar 25 20:43:49 <Serdar> huh?
Mar 25 20:44:01 <Serdar> android is multitasking
Mar 25 20:44:13 <hal14450> multitask as in mutliple apps open at once
Mar 25 20:44:30 <hal14450> is there a way to do that that i was overlooking?
Mar 25 20:45:34 <hal14450> i couldn't find a way to open a browser and open another app at the same time and switch between them
Mar 25 20:48:55 <Serdar> hold aux
Mar 25 20:49:33 <hal14450> i tried that and it didn't work for me on cupcake nor eclair
Mar 25 20:50:32 <hal14450> i'll give it another try this weekend w/ the latest eclair/master
Mar 25 20:57:45 <Serdar> huh
Mar 25 20:58:02 <Serdar> if you press aux long enough you should be able to see all apps which are open
Mar 25 21:07:54 <Azuvix> Can't get the USB networking to do anything AT ALL. I've done it with other distros, is the weird part.
Mar 25 21:09:21 <Azuvix> It's like, c'mon, all I want to do is change the password...
Mar 25 21:11:58 <Azuvix> It keeps giving me errors to the effect of "can't find usb0".
Mar 25 21:13:07 <Azuvix> Whereas before it could do that every time.
Mar 25 21:18:10 <Azuvix> Ideas?
Mar 25 21:24:48 <Serdar> usb0?
Mar 25 21:24:54 <Serdar> which distribution are you useing?
Mar 25 21:26:15 <Azuvix> gNewSense. Like I said, it SHOULD work. As for the phone, it's running cupcake.
Mar 25 21:37:25 <Azuvix> Is it bad if my phone just dramatically turned on without my touching it? O.o
Mar 25 21:45:56 <hal14450> Azuvix, you'll want to use adb to move files onto the FR if all you have is USB
Mar 25 21:47:06 <hal14450> adb push /path/to/local/file(s) /path/to/freeruuner/save/drirectory
Mar 25 21:47:21 <hal14450> damn typos
Mar 25 21:47:28 <hal14450> you get the point though i hope
Mar 25 21:47:50 <hal14450> adb shell
Mar 25 21:48:21 <hal14450> but you can't set a passwd iirc since it doesn't use accounts
Mar 25 21:48:50 <Azuvix> Oh, okay.
Mar 25 21:48:51 <Azuvix> Gotcha.
Mar 25 21:49:50 <hal14450> the UI is top notch though imho
Mar 25 21:51:08 <Azuvix> Oh, absolutely.
Mar 25 23:44:49 <Azuvix> It's official. I'm hooked.
Mar 25 23:46:14 <Azuvix> Everything just works.
Mar 25 23:47:38 <Serdar> hm?
Mar 25 23:49:18 <Azuvix> Android, it's really something. Not my idea of security, but I think it's great.
Mar 25 23:54:00 <Serdar> and you are useing now cupcake?
Mar 25 23:59:55 <Azuvix> Yup.
Mar 26 00:00:00 <Azuvix> Stable, for what it's worth.
Mar 26 00:23:42 <Azuvix> I did wonder one thing, though. If I were to flash it, then could I edit some system locales and use a whole card?
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