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Apr 07 07:25:04 <mvzaanen> Morning
Apr 07 16:15:43 <Serdar> hi there
Apr 07 16:15:57 <Serdar> jancona, have you seen this reverse engeneering api?
Apr 07 16:16:45 <jancona> No, I don't think so
Apr 07 16:21:20 <Serdar> there seems to be a try to reverse engeneer the market api.
Apr 07 16:21:45 <Serdar> http://code.google.com/p/android-market-api
Apr 07 16:21:55 <jancona> I saw the email asking about it. Is someone doing it?
Apr 07 16:22:07 <Serdar> if it works well and someone has guts and write a gui it could be a solution
Apr 07 16:23:08 <Serdar> I need my msd2usb stick back, then I can try.
Apr 07 16:23:52 <Serdar> I can try to use these simple apps and look if they work with freerunner
Apr 07 16:24:04 <Serdar> but I can't write a whole gui, never done it before
Apr 07 16:27:50 <Serdar> btw. jancona do you know a solution of trying my builds without flashing it everytime?
Apr 07 16:27:57 <Serdar> emulation for example
Apr 07 16:30:43 <jancona> I don't know of an emulation solution that would be useful. There used to be a QEMU emulator for Neo1973/Freerunner but I think it was abandoned because it was easier to just work on the device.
Apr 07 16:30:53 <jancona> There info on that on the OM wiki
Apr 07 16:31:21 <jancona> I use adb sync when I'm developing, but if you use that you're not really testing the build
Apr 07 16:31:42 <Serdar> there was an emulator for freerunner too? I only know about neo1973
Apr 07 16:33:07 <jancona> I think there was an attempt to modify the Neo one to work for the Freerunner. But I could be mistaken
Apr 07 16:33:28 <jancona> This page tells about adb sync, if you're interested: http://devtcg.blogspot.com/2009/03/building-running-and-debugging-android.html
Apr 07 16:34:46 <Serdar> I can't use adb, that's my problem since useing mac os x
Apr 07 16:34:57 <Serdar> the cdc driver is not working for me.
Apr 07 16:36:32 <jancona> Use a VirtualBox VM with Linux on it
Apr 07 16:40:17 <Serdar> that's what I tried first, but I needed to reboot few times than flash then try again reboot few times...
Apr 07 19:34:21 <stongo> hello
Apr 07 19:39:38 <stongo> how's eclaire coming?
Apr 07 19:39:46 <stongo> is it comparable to RC?
Apr 07 19:47:32 <Serdar> not now.
Apr 07 19:47:43 <Serdar> but you are free to test it.
Apr 07 19:47:52 <Serdar> I have made a build few days ago
Apr 07 19:48:56 <stongo> Serdar, I'm using RC as a daily phone, and have lots of apps installed, so don't really want to wipe that yet :)
Apr 07 19:49:18 <stongo> I'm definitely liking RC
Apr 07 19:50:08 <Serdar> I want eclair more stable.
Apr 07 19:52:52 <stongo> how is the audio? I can try patching the asound.conf on eclaire if that helps. I'm pretty useless otherwise :)
Apr 07 19:53:24 <Serdar> we need to patch recording.
Apr 07 19:53:43 <Serdar> michael was working about, but he is involved in other stuff now.
Apr 07 19:54:09 <stongo> is he dropping it completely?
Apr 07 19:54:22 <stongo> is recording just too quiet?
Apr 07 19:56:05 <Serdar> recording does not work with android
Apr 07 19:56:15 <Serdar> because of 2 channels
Apr 07 19:57:00 <stongo> can it just be fixed through asound.conf, or does it go deeper than that?
Apr 07 19:58:41 <Serdar> it's deep I guess
Apr 07 19:59:28 <stongo> crap. has Michael stopped working on it completely?
Apr 07 20:01:17 <Serdar> can't ask he is offline
Apr 07 20:02:13 <stongo> damn. that would be a real loss.
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