**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 10 02:59:57 2010 May 10 09:22:18 hi May 10 09:22:53 give any solution for the accelometer, that it works ? May 10 09:49:18 give any solution for the accelometer, that it works ? May 10 09:50:57 AlbertLast, accels works for changing the orietation of the screen May 10 09:51:09 AlbertLast, no applications seems able to get data from them May 10 09:51:22 yes ^^ May 10 09:51:36 i need the date from the achses (x,y,z) May 10 09:51:39 for my app May 10 09:52:04 i didn't find a image for freenruner May 10 09:52:16 where the acc and the gps works May 10 09:52:30 AlbertLast, I have looke around a bit about this, the only similar situation I have found is that the emulator has code that only emulates rotating screen May 10 09:52:32 and that without molbile card May 10 09:52:56 it could be that we for some reason use that code, not sure how to check that or to fix it if that is the case May 10 09:54:27 we want use the freenruner as a recorder for gps and acc data May 10 09:54:36 so wie dont want emulate the value *g* May 10 09:54:55 AlbertLast, so as it stands today you can't use accels in your app on freerunner if you don't manage to find the error in the android-on-freerunner project May 10 09:55:34 AlbertLast, that was not what I mean, my point is that it could be that we due to some error uses part of the emulator code instead of the real code May 10 09:55:42 i got the src from the project May 10 09:55:51 and compile the code May 10 09:56:21 but in the out is only one img file May 10 09:56:38 yeah there is some error in the code relating to this, this problem needs to be found, I have looked around a bit but not found anything that is obvious to me May 10 09:57:13 that only one img file ist generate is a error too ? May 10 09:57:47 there is a problem relating to accels in that img file yes, but the problem comes from some code in the src May 10 09:59:43 i think we hav some mixed i dont realy wnat May 10 09:59:53 acc not work ok . May 10 10:00:55 but the brache src that i only compile that generate only one img file May 10 10:00:57 oh sry May 10 10:01:10 2 file userdata.img and ramdisk.img May 10 10:01:29 but i need kernel and the filesystem img ?! May 10 10:01:32 AlbertLast, yes accel does not work, but the hardware obvoius works and the Linux driver works. Otherwise screen rotation woulden't work. So the "only" thing that needs fixing is the integration of the accels in android May 10 10:01:58 yes so i want to try to fixet May 10 10:02:12 but i cant realy compile the code May 10 10:02:54 AlbertLast, if you compile the normal way, you get a installer that you put on a sd card and then boot from that. It will install android on the flash May 10 10:03:34 so the images you see there is a install package wich contains the other images May 10 10:03:35 i will check the make maybe a error .. May 10 10:04:48 btw the guid how u ged the code May 10 10:05:06 should u say the "repo" no in the git packed May 10 10:06:26 can you give me a link and som more text around that so I can find it? May 10 10:07:14 ohh sorry I mixed up the behaviour of the build system and our binaries May 10 10:07:45 you should get a kernel and a system image May 10 10:16:01 its not realy easy to compile the code on ubuntu 10.4 64bit ... May 10 10:16:26 yeah I know I'm trying it out here now also =) May 10 10:17:01 I'm unsure how easy it is to use a real sun-java on 10.04 also May 10 10:17:19 java is one problem May 10 10:17:27 the other one is gcc May 10 10:17:42 and some more May 10 10:18:21 4.4 is the defaul 10.4 but u cant compile android only with 4.3 May 10 10:21:18 yeah it's a real problem May 10 10:22:11 the main develop dist at google is ubuntu i think May 10 10:22:56 so they will be a solution from google will come May 10 10:23:36 yeah I hope but I can't find any hints right now May 10 10:24:02 last weak i done the compile i think May 10 10:24:09 but now it does work XD May 10 10:26:23 how did you install java-sdk 1.5 from a sun package instead of from the package manager? May 10 10:27:55 i do extraat it in my home May 10 10:28:20 an set the "export PATH=$PATH:/home..." May 10 10:28:21 k, I really don't like such a solution but maybe I have to =( May 10 10:28:45 the other one is take a repo May 10 10:31:37 i know the problem May 10 10:31:42 or i hope .. May 10 10:31:53 java.util.zip.ZipException: duplicate entry: hyts_Foo.c May 10 10:31:56 i hang on this .. May 10 10:32:40 which branch are you trying with master or cupcake? May 10 10:34:30 make -j 4 TARGET_PRODUCT=freerunner May 10 10:34:47 export ANDROID_JAVA_HOME=$JAVA_HOME <- that i forget May 10 10:40:04 well this wars not the solution ^^ May 10 10:40:32 okay same error again? May 10 10:41:18 i forget the cc and gxx export May 10 10:41:33 that stand u guid <_>" May 10 10:42:14 i should writ a bash May 10 10:42:22 that set all export *g* May 10 10:42:38 yeah, that is probably a good idea May 10 10:49:16 "java.util.zip.ZipException: duplicate entry: hyts_Foo.c May 10 10:49:16 " that is hang point May 10 10:50:27 but i think is a configuration mistake from my site ^^ May 10 10:50:32 propbably some dependency that is missing, cupcake should build May 10 10:51:48 the repo should be cupcake ? May 10 10:52:14 i hav use "repo init -u git://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_manifest.git -b cupcake" May 10 10:52:27 to init the repo on my pc May 10 10:52:54 yeah that is cupcake May 10 10:53:00 "-b cupcake" May 10 10:53:10 or did u mean cupcake in target_product in the make ? May 10 10:53:35 no TARGET_PRODUCT=freerunner should work May 10 10:54:34 cupcake should really build I haven't gotten as far as you yet still som dependecy that is missing, can you print the whole error stack from make? May 10 11:02:26 for me lib32stdc++ 4.3 does not seem to be in ubuntu repo you got the same problem? May 10 12:23:11 Serdar, seems like it is getting harder and harder to get android to compile for every ubuntu release, 10.04 64 bit looks like hell right now May 10 12:23:33 hmm May 10 12:23:48 what error? May 10 12:26:18 last I got was non clean kernel folder May 10 12:26:48 it was an old source directory so I don't know if I made any changes there are downloading a new one now May 10 12:27:27 but before that, seperate jdk needed (i installed in home), more ia32 libs, a bunch of files gives duplicates May 10 12:28:27 but the biggst thing is that sun-java.jdk-1.5 is no more May 10 12:29:02 yes May 10 12:29:09 you need an older jdk May 10 12:29:42 yeah and it is not in the ubuntu repo anymore May 10 12:30:03 yes, but on other May 10 12:31:21 I really hope that google updates to java 1.6 and gcc 4.4 May 10 12:31:40 4.5 :) May 10 12:31:58 sure, that would work to =) May 10 12:33:37 maybe I should have even more fun and try to build this on solaris =) May 10 12:34:52 build android on chromeOS May 10 12:34:57 that would be funny o.o May 10 12:36:31 yeah but I have access to a 24 core solaris system =) May 10 12:37:07 (with the possiblity to add more if I ask) May 10 12:38:05 it's a sparc system so I don't know if it would be possible May 10 13:07:10 re ^^ May 10 13:17:07 larlin http://pastebin.com/jbZ04LHA here May 10 13:17:14 the make error May 10 13:18:01 AlbertLast, there seems to be soem duplicate files, I have tried to rename them there is about 10 or so May 10 13:18:25 I renamed the duplicates to samename-test and it got me past that atleast don't ask me why =) May 10 13:19:33 and what is duplicate May 10 13:20:02 i didn't see the duplicate May 10 13:20:45 one sec had a crasch need to find the right dirs again May 10 13:21:08 k May 10 13:21:49 dalvik/libcore/luni/src/test/resources May 10 13:22:03 that one you posted was about hyts_Foo.c May 10 13:22:21 so I renamed it hyts_Foo.c-test and compiled again May 10 13:23:07 thanks i found it May 10 13:24:12 it will complaine about a few more May 10 13:27:05 hc_staff.xml is one of them May 10 13:27:20 yeah right where was that one now again May 10 13:29:52 going to try my google foo again one sec May 10 13:30:53 yes is maybe the make wron i mean all file are in the "test" folder May 10 13:31:06 right the rest is in: dalvik/libcore/dom/src/test/resources May 10 13:31:44 the problem is that the same test files are spread out all over, and for some reason some scope for creating jar files seems bigger now then before May 10 13:34:14 is that a problem combine with ubuntu 10.4 or why now the problem ? May 10 13:35:04 I would guess yes May 10 13:35:37 I don't think there has been any changes to this in the code May 10 13:42:08 AlbertLast, if you succed in finding the problem with the sensors I would be very happy as I'm also doing a app that uses accels (mostly for testing right now but still) May 10 13:42:54 my c++ skills a low, im more java May 10 13:43:12 but i have a doc about acc in freerunner May 10 13:43:34 from my study mates from last year May 10 13:44:31 basicly the acc is a other output as the orientation May 10 13:45:45 the same with me my c++ skills are limited, but the problem here I think is really to understand how the android stack uses sensors May 10 13:45:52 to find where the problem is May 10 13:48:00 same i want try with some LOGD output findout where the problem is May 10 13:49:12 are the number of file to rename low ? high ? May 10 13:49:45 I know there is a accel driver, as far as I could understand looked sane May 10 13:49:53 AlbertLast, about 10 iirc May 10 13:53:17 it looks that dom an xml folder have the same destination May 10 13:55:25 humm this is odd, I started in a clean directory and whith the right env vars I did not get the problems with those files May 10 13:55:46 ös May 10 13:56:26 now I'm confused for real May 10 13:56:36 ? May 10 13:56:53 the source tree you try to build was it initiated under ubuntu 10.04 or some earlier version? May 10 13:57:04 10.4 May 10 13:57:32 before today I tried to build in a old tree I had that I only updated with repo sync then I got all those problems with duplicate files May 10 13:57:32 last wed i init the repo May 10 13:58:08 now I tried in a new directory with a newely init:ed repo and it buildt on first try May 10 13:58:15 no changed files May 10 14:03:02 Hey guys, could someone tell me where I could find some info on the current status of android-2.1 for the freerunner? May 10 14:05:03 hello all May 10 14:05:35 baffled, if you go on the project page there is a link to gitorious (where you can see commits) and then there is a link to the group of AoF May 10 14:06:59 pbaxter: thank you I'll check it out. May 10 14:07:17 do someone know where do i have to change asound.conf to increase volume? May 10 14:15:02 yeah in my out folder i got now kernel and system img file :3 May 10 14:23:54 AlbertLast, nice! May 10 14:25:11 i work with flashing method May 10 14:25:30 becaus i didn't hav a card reader ^^ May 10 14:26:20 the card i hav format with freeruner os May 10 14:28:10 AlbertLast, flashing should work May 10 14:28:15 I use it all the time May 10 14:28:54 yes its work fine May 10 14:29:00 only the first boot May 10 14:29:17 its hang but this looks normal May 10 14:39:26 well May 10 14:39:43 AlbertLast, I get that it hangs on first boot May 10 14:39:50 so I need to restart it after a while May 10 14:39:55 E/sensors ( 1131): write_int failed to open /sys/bus/spi/drivers/lis302dl/spi3.1/threshold May 10 14:39:55 should be the wrong path May 10 14:40:15 yes i wait 1 min an than reboot May 10 14:40:40 that is realted to some permission error, if you change permissions on those files the error goes away but it dosen't work any better May 10 14:40:59 k nice to know May 10 14:42:15 so a first fix would be to try to fix the init scripts so they manae to create those device files with the right permissions May 10 14:47:28 I need to go now hope you get somewhere good luck May 10 14:48:36 cu ^^ May 10 15:07:27 Serdar u german or ? May 10 15:24:38 Is platform_manifest.git the entire repository? May 10 15:27:51 Woops, I mean freerunner_platform_manifest.git? I'm hoping platform_build.git etc are subtrees. May 10 15:28:29 http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/ImproveIt May 10 15:28:46 stand "repo init -u git://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_manifest.git -b cupcake" May 10 15:29:25 Right but I'm wanting to get the eclair branch it looks like so I was hoping it's all in one. May 10 15:29:58 I think it's the eclair branch I want anyway. May 10 15:30:27 than maybe u hav to replace cupcake with eclair ? May 10 15:31:06 Could be but it would be easier to just git clone the entire repo and then checkout the branch I want. May 10 15:31:41 Then I could cross check as well. May 10 15:44:59 yes I am, why? May 10 16:06:43 becaus i too . May 10 16:07:38 what is position in the project ? May 10 20:23:19 baffled, I think that with clair should work, you should use repo to get a working copy of the code, git is only possible to use to get different sub projects May 10 20:24:56 larlin: yeah, thank you. I figured that out after trying to just git the manifest. May 10 20:25:38 repo is a tool ontop of git, so I think you could use git to fetch each of the sub projects May 10 20:25:43 I'm fighting now with trying to get everything I need for the sdk. All this to look at one program! May 10 20:26:50 to do android application development you only need the android sdk you don't need the android source for that May 10 20:27:16 I'm trying to find the code for talkback which is supposed to be under settings. May 10 20:27:48 humm that sounds a bit more complicated yes May 10 20:28:52 Well, I must be some sort of idiot because I've looked under settings and can find no reference to talkback. May 10 20:28:59 if you look at vendor/neo/freerunner/freerunner.mk you can se a list of applications that is built by defauklt don't know if it could be that talkback should be in that list May 10 20:29:18 that is if it is considerd a seperate application May 10 20:31:08 Well, I've done a find . -iname '*' -exec grep -i talk.*back {} \; and find only one string talkback in a dictionary file. May 10 20:31:47 So as my name states, I'm baffled! 'grin' May 10 20:35:50 I think you could follow up with a find on the id or simliar in the dictionary file? May 10 20:36:14 I don't know what talkback is but is sounds like its some feature that is disabled right now May 10 20:38:23 my guess is that it is some setting somewhere in a makefile or simlilar May 10 20:55:58 larlin: it is a screen reader which is part of the standard android applications. I don't know who set-up the freerunner android-2.x tree but possibly they didn't include it for some reason. May 10 20:56:47 Unless the android folks were pretty sneaky at hiding it's inclusion. May 10 20:57:14 humm if it is a real application, try to add it to vendor/neo/freerunner/freerunner.mk that list for 2.x could have been copied from earlier version so it is not included May 10 20:57:46 Hmmm, that's an idea. May 10 20:58:15 if you look at build/target/product/generic.mk you may get a hint of the name May 10 20:59:21 if it dosen't appear in generic.mk check the other mk files in that dir (this is info from cupcake but it may be the same in eclair) May 10 21:00:38 Okay I'll check. It wasn't in android-1.5 it was included I believe around 1.6 or later. May 10 21:03:26 yeah but the layout with the files could be the same May 10 21:27:55 Well, I think I'm going to have to install the standard android-2.1 into the sdk and check that. May 10 22:02:23 baffled, could give some ideas but I don't think you need the sdk to do that May 10 22:02:36 I think you should be able to do a repo init from google May 10 22:03:40 larlin: you are probably right. I am an extreme newbie at this android stuff so I don't have my head wrapped around it all yet. May 10 22:04:15 bye all May 10 22:04:19 android rocks! May 10 22:04:23 sdk is for developing android applications, it have very little to nothing to do with porting the platform May 10 22:05:09 I was looking through the git log for the Settings app and see no reference to talkback although there is discussion of accessibility stuff there. May 10 22:05:49 It looks like it is the log from the android settings app however so I'm baffled as usual. May 10 22:09:46 well the fix could be in some make file which is not part of the setting app it could only switch parts of the setting app on and off May 10 22:18:04 Interesting. One would expect they'd keep it all in the same place though if it's part of the standard system. May 10 22:38:57 nah it dosen't work that way, it's the app with all it code and resources then there is the makefiles that configure what is to be buildt and what is not to be buildt, the makefiles are somewhat collected in the vendor/neo/freerunner direcotry, there everything is collected to control what is needed to build for the neo freerunner May 10 22:43:53 Well, I am repo sync'ing the android-2.1r2 currently so I'll check that to see if there's any difference in the Settings app for grins. May 10 22:44:52 Maybe I can find something to add to the fr.mk file in products dir of vendor. May 10 22:48:47 should be possible if you don't find anything I could take a look at it in a few days May 10 23:00:35 Thanks larlin I appreciate it but I'll find it no matter what it takes. May 10 23:01:05 I have this freerunner and I'd like to be able to use it. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 11 02:59:56 2010