**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 10 02:59:58 2010 Aug 10 06:18:27 lol Aug 10 06:18:33 0413 und noch wach Aug 10 06:47:26 reading uImage Aug 10 06:47:34 Error after cmd Aug 10 07:24:18 who is in charge of this project? isn't it time to release a new public version? Aug 10 07:24:32 Serdar, I see you built a new froyo build, is it better? Aug 10 09:31:35 puls Aug 10 10:04:38 TomaszD, I hope so Aug 10 10:04:49 Serdar, what did you change? Aug 10 10:05:00 I changed Launcher with Launcher2 I guess this is the problem Aug 10 10:05:17 and added some application of froyo Aug 10 10:10:16 boa gestern zuviele drogen... heut abend gehts dann aber endlich mal los Aug 10 10:10:33 Drogen sind schlecht! Aug 10 10:10:36 der braucht ja ne spezielle formatierung Aug 10 10:10:40 waaaaaaaaaas? Aug 10 10:10:44 kein stueck! Aug 10 10:10:49 ^^ Aug 10 10:11:06 ohne drogen würd ich das ganze schon lang nicht mehr mitmachen Aug 10 10:11:11 amok laufen und so^^ Aug 10 10:11:29 ina dis a babylon world Aug 10 10:12:45 jez pause futtern und dann weiter malochen Aug 10 10:12:47 bis später Aug 10 10:13:18 fuer dich heisst malochen chatten? :P Aug 10 10:13:25 lol Aug 10 10:13:35 da hab ich zwischendurch mal 5mins zeit Aug 10 10:13:39 sonst stress Aug 10 10:13:45 und ein verwirrter chef Aug 10 10:13:51 der die falschen drogen bekommt Aug 10 10:13:54 cu Aug 10 10:15:54 TomaszD, I changed the PRODUCT_PACKAGES List Aug 10 10:17:59 TomaszD, http://codepad.org/GiTT2wff Aug 10 10:20:26 http://codepad.org/1mCmLbL2 Aug 10 10:32:55 TomaszD, are you testing? :() Aug 10 10:34:35 Serdar, I might be later Aug 10 10:34:51 Serdar, you should get rid of the Camera app, the Gallery3D app.. Aug 10 10:35:17 LiveWallpaper will also not work Aug 10 10:35:42 CubeLiveWallpapers also Aug 10 10:35:44 I can't get rid of Camera app, because it got some functions which is needed for other application, we tried it before Aug 10 10:35:49 ah Aug 10 10:36:23 Serdar, so what about including the market, eh? Aug 10 10:36:40 there is no market app Aug 10 10:36:52 Serdar, did you disable all animations in this build? Aug 10 10:38:03 should be, of not, I made an error Aug 10 10:38:08 ok Aug 10 10:38:25 but if I am correct the problem was Launcher Aug 10 10:38:44 because there was Launcher in the apps but no launcher real in apps directory Aug 10 10:38:50 so it can't work Aug 10 10:38:59 I changed that to Launcher2 because that exist Aug 10 10:39:06 I hope it works well Aug 10 10:39:08 ok Aug 10 10:43:01 flashing new build ... Aug 10 10:43:31 juhuu Aug 10 10:49:32 Serdar, sd card still not working Aug 10 10:49:41 hmm Aug 10 10:50:09 why? Aug 10 10:50:15 it's only for you right? Aug 10 10:50:18 no no Aug 10 10:50:27 android doesn't detect the sd card Aug 10 10:50:37 the sd card itself is working fine Aug 10 10:53:34 ah Aug 10 10:53:37 strange Aug 10 10:54:28 is it faster now? Aug 10 10:55:03 ls Aug 10 10:55:11 err wrong window :D Aug 10 10:57:28 a bit faster, but that doesn Aug 10 10:57:33 t really mean anything Aug 10 10:57:38 there are problems still Aug 10 10:58:53 is there a chance that the default wallpaper is animated? Aug 10 10:59:21 this can be solved, but our most problem were speed, if that is increased the rest is up to jancona to merge with eclair code Aug 10 10:59:31 I guess not, why? Aug 10 11:00:51 it's having a hard time displaying it Aug 10 11:01:28 I will record the boot sequence on video for you Serdar so you'll see what I'm working with, might even do it today Aug 10 11:05:07 launcher disappears when the screen locks Aug 10 11:05:15 it's having a hard time to re-appear maybe Aug 10 11:05:16 I don't know Aug 10 11:05:19 I'll try grabbing a log Aug 10 11:06:16 okay, thanks Aug 10 11:20:56 Serdar, I will have a very, very nice bootup log for you Aug 10 11:21:01 I can see some problems already Aug 10 11:21:10 I started logging as early as I could Aug 10 11:25:02 *sigh* Aug 10 11:25:05 "CPU may be pegged. trying again." Aug 10 11:26:53 hello? Aug 10 11:26:58 hello? Aug 10 11:27:27 Finally, my freerunner is working with the images builded by myself >.< Aug 10 11:27:41 But, i got another problem.. Aug 10 11:29:06 anyone else knows where can i get the source code of qi.img in the auto-installer? I compiled the QI source code, but it can't boot my freerunner. Aug 10 11:29:58 I find a strage part.. I only see ext2.c in the fs directory of QI source code. There is no ext3.c. Aug 10 11:30:11 Is it means the qi not supporting ext3? Aug 10 11:30:15 Serdar, http://paste-it.net/public/e01af32/ Aug 10 11:30:43 EASON, gitorious Aug 10 11:30:47 see topic Aug 10 11:30:50 thanks TomaszD Aug 10 11:31:27 E/Zygote ( 847): setreuid() failed. errno: 30 Aug 10 11:31:29 hmm Aug 10 11:33:14 gitorious? Aug 10 11:33:28 git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/qi.git Aug 10 11:34:46 nope Aug 10 11:35:13 you can use that too (maybe)+ Aug 10 11:35:26 you are talking about the insteller qi, right? Aug 10 11:35:34 yes Aug 10 11:36:00 I used the qi.img in the installer. The freerunner works fine with the images i builded Aug 10 11:36:30 but not work with the qi images i build. Aug 10 11:36:40 repo init -u git://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_manifest.git -b installer Aug 10 11:39:47 hmm same shit as before... Aug 10 11:40:07 ? Aug 10 11:40:16 the logs Aug 10 11:40:47 there is a problem with android.process.acore Aug 10 11:43:11 Thanks, Serdar. I got the installer. Keeping working on porting XD Aug 10 11:44:08 Serdar, maybe you could ask at nitdroid or somewhere Aug 10 11:46:06 I need jim Aug 10 11:48:05 Serdar, e-mail him with the log? Aug 10 11:53:18 I think the newest froyo build is worse than the one before Aug 10 11:53:41 why? maybe animation is still active?! Aug 10 11:53:47 could you maybe build the same one as 20100805 but with animations disabled? Aug 10 11:53:53 no, there is a bigger problem Aug 10 11:54:19 the launcher does not re-appear after unlocking the screen Aug 10 11:54:50 and I can't tap any of the menus (e.g. choose default action, like before, between sdksetup and provision, I can't touch it at all) Aug 10 11:54:58 whereas I could before Aug 10 11:55:14 the desktop actually worked earlier Aug 10 11:55:18 now it simply doesn't Aug 10 11:55:34 hmm Aug 10 11:55:36 I can't reach the menu, if I can it's only shortly after boot, but with a lot of luck Aug 10 11:55:57 at least the previous build was working, slowly, but working Aug 10 11:56:22 after I disabled animations manually on the first froyo build it worked much better than this new build by default Aug 10 11:56:33 I will check the older build to make sure Aug 10 11:56:59 later bredren Aug 10 11:59:12 Hi, for me 20100810 froyo build works as well as the 20100805 one Aug 10 12:00:20 ...menus, launcher and the selection of default action Aug 10 12:01:33 I had to disable the animations manually though Aug 10 12:02:04 tukkonen, can you make logcat too Aug 10 12:07:59 I'm no sure I can... I could try later Aug 10 12:31:59 TomaszD, were adb enabled by default? Aug 10 12:35:12 Cya all. Aug 10 12:35:42 for me adb was enabled by default Aug 10 12:36:21 okay Aug 10 12:52:19 yes, adb works by default Aug 10 12:52:39 Serdar, ok after testing the earlier build there is not much difference really Aug 10 12:52:58 h, Aug 10 12:53:01 hm Aug 10 12:53:24 the launcher could re-appear after 15-30 minutes, but I'm not that patient Aug 10 12:53:40 Serdar, which build would you recommend for daily use? Aug 10 12:53:56 my latest cupcake daily Aug 10 12:54:53 ok Aug 10 12:59:42 Serdar, who is in charge of the project? maybe it would be nice to have an official release Aug 10 13:01:11 there is one official release Aug 10 13:01:12 RC1 Aug 10 13:02:08 I can create an RC2 but there aren't enough improvements Aug 10 13:04:01 Serdar, what improvements are there from RC1 till today? Aug 10 13:04:21 small things, the last one is about gps Aug 10 13:04:57 so what is needed to have a final cupcake release Serdar Aug 10 13:05:42 most of all: speed, it's slow Aug 10 13:06:13 try cupcake Aug 10 13:06:17 you will see it Aug 10 13:06:51 yeah, I had cupcake for a while Aug 10 13:07:11 Serdar, so nobody knows how to fix the speed issue? what is causing it? Aug 10 13:09:32 I guess it's glamo Aug 10 13:10:01 someone need to look at this: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-July/062495.html Aug 10 13:20:24 so we can't do much about this Aug 10 13:20:39 if speeding up glamo disrupts operation.. Aug 10 14:58:57 Serdar, have you thought about asking around in #android about the froyo issue? Aug 10 15:04:34 at #android-dev yes Aug 10 15:06:28 android-dev is app developmenrt Aug 10 15:06:42 maybe better #android or #android-root Aug 10 15:09:27 heh, cupcake performance is incredible in comparison to froyo Aug 10 15:09:33 I don't think it's slow at all Aug 10 16:56:44 I was thinking about that too, but #android-dev is development at all and #android is general Aug 10 17:28:53 if i want to dd an image on a microSD card to flash my openmoko, howto unmount it proper? if i eject FREERUNN(thats the name of the SD card) i cannot dd cause sdc isn't found. i tried to eject sdc1, same thing Aug 10 17:31:23 Also make sure there are *no* mounted partitions left on the µSD when starting `dd`! Aug 10 17:31:35 thats why i am asking Aug 10 17:31:53 if i plug the SD card in /dev sdc1 appears. Aug 10 17:32:03 thougt thats a mounted partition Aug 10 17:53:31 okay it seems that i got it, just plugged it in and copied with dd Aug 10 17:54:51 cannot understand that weird thing Aug 10 17:54:57 Error after cmd Aug 10 17:55:07 while booting from SD Aug 10 17:55:17 to flash the GSM firmware Aug 10 18:22:15 if i try to install android it ends up in the same problem Aug 10 18:22:21 Error after cmd Aug 10 18:23:45 wrong image format Aug 10 18:23:47 hmmmm Aug 10 18:24:25 maybe dd didnt work Aug 10 18:29:40 do i have to update the kernel or root filesystem manually before installing android? Aug 10 20:26:13 serdar im in here now :) Aug 10 20:26:21 ah Aug 10 20:26:24 hi :) Aug 10 20:26:43 ok that error i mentioned is easily fixed in kernel config Aug 10 20:27:04 okay, you also know how? Aug 10 20:27:23 yep :) Aug 10 20:27:30 had same issue on nitdroid at first Aug 10 20:27:36 I am not the developer, I am only the guy who get things working :D Aug 10 20:27:45 :D Aug 10 20:28:18 my C is worse Aug 10 20:28:34 but I need to learn it, because I should write a filesystem with fuse Aug 10 20:29:14 our kernel is very old Aug 10 20:29:26 .29 iirc Aug 10 20:29:44 http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/kernel_openmoko/trees/master Aug 10 20:29:45 the error im on about can be fixed by : menuconfig > power management> user-space scren access : sysfs interface - we us .28 Aug 10 20:30:17 and does the freerunner not have hw gfx ? Aug 10 20:31:03 you mean glamo? yes it does Aug 10 20:31:15 but no hw support in android ? Aug 10 20:31:31 no idea, I am not a developer :/ Aug 10 20:31:36 LOL Aug 10 20:31:51 * DJ_Steve adds this room to my autojoin list Aug 10 20:31:51 I need to understand android completly Aug 10 20:32:28 lol Aug 10 20:34:19 glamo is not enabled in AoF Aug 10 20:34:30 ? Aug 10 20:34:41 oh hi niels_ Aug 10 20:34:49 didn't see you :) Aug 10 20:35:03 well lets see if i cant butt in and try and help out :) got any source for the gpu ? Aug 10 20:36:05 there should be some exist Aug 10 20:36:19 not if what im reading is right Aug 10 20:36:21 but other projects I guess, not android Aug 10 20:36:40 SHR has it Aug 10 20:37:37 gettign yourselves gpu backed support would solve your animation problems Aug 10 20:38:08 exactly Aug 10 20:38:26 personally id be looking at that rather than trying to disable anim Aug 10 20:39:08 agree Aug 10 20:39:19 serdar your logcat seems to have some major problems with libsqlite Aug 10 20:39:19 question is, who has the skills? Aug 10 20:39:50 im not even gonna say that as for one i cant test locally and 2 im not that skilled Aug 10 20:41:12 well... Aug 10 20:41:19 why don't you give it a try? Aug 10 20:41:32 you can't do any harm Aug 10 20:41:54 there is no menuconfig > power management> user-space Aug 10 20:42:09 I mean user-space Aug 10 20:42:15 ive got enough work with my own android port lol :) and besides without knowing android expectations etc i cant even remotely start (my device users powervr sgx gpu and it has a sdk for android.) Aug 10 20:42:30 should be serdar you have newer kernel than we use and i have it Aug 10 20:43:00 spam: Aug 10 20:43:01 │ │ [*] Power Management support │ │ Aug 10 20:43:01 │ │ [ ] Power Management Debug Support │ │ Aug 10 20:43:01 │ │ [*] Suspend to RAM and standby │ │ Aug 10 20:43:03 │ │ [*] ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support (NEW) ---> │ │ Aug 10 20:43:06 │ │ < > APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS support (NEW) ---> │ │ Aug 10 20:43:09 │ │ CPU Frequency scaling ---> │ │ Aug 10 20:43:12 │ │ [*] CPU idle PM support Aug 10 20:43:42 methinks you have no wakelock support. is it a android kernel or just normal one with some android patches Aug 10 20:43:55 afraid i dont know much about AoF :) Aug 10 20:44:53 │ Symbol: ANDROID_WAKELOCK_STAT [=y] │ Aug 10 20:45:00 │ Symbol: ANDROID_USER_WAKELOCK [=y] │ Aug 10 20:45:08 │ Symbol: ANDROID_WAKELOCK [=y] │ Aug 10 20:45:12 well thats their, check inside ACPI support then Aug 10 20:46:36 Serdar id suggest pastebin.com for pasting output of screens lol Aug 10 20:46:54 codepad.org is my favorite Aug 10 20:46:57 but I was lazy Aug 10 20:47:07 lol Aug 10 20:49:33 serdar : http://pastebin.com/6D62fQRa thats extract from my kernel .config Aug 10 20:55:29 strange Aug 10 20:55:33 it'S not there Aug 10 20:55:35 I can add it Aug 10 20:55:56 is any of the wakelock lines their Aug 10 20:56:42 http://pastebin.com/jzjRJRTw Aug 10 20:56:44 nope Aug 10 20:57:17 looks like your missing the wakelock/fb suspend lines Aug 10 21:04:19 .config:1627:warning: override: reassigning to symbol NO_USER_SPACE_SCREEN_ACCESS_CONTROL Aug 10 21:04:22 is that okay? Aug 10 21:04:44 not sure Aug 10 21:09:07 it changes automatically to CONFIG_ANDROID_WAKELOCK=y and stuff Aug 10 21:09:44 looks like you have newer patchs maybe, but try and see, not like you cant go back to old one i assume **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 11 02:59:57 2010