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Aug 16 04:56:50 <DiodomanX> hi people
Aug 16 04:56:58 <DiodomanX> i have a problem with android
Aug 16 04:57:05 <DiodomanX> can make wifi to work
Aug 16 04:57:53 <DiodomanX> i can get connected
Aug 16 04:58:04 <DiodomanX> but cant navigate with browser
Aug 16 06:53:08 <TomaszD> Serdar, what is new in the latest cupcake?
Aug 16 07:43:07 <TomaszD> Serdar, are you still sleeping?
Aug 16 11:26:16 <abram|work_> greetings
Aug 16 13:20:15 <Serdar> TomaszD, yes I was sleeping
Aug 16 13:20:28 <Serdar> went to bed at 4 :)
Aug 16 13:20:44 <Serdar> btw. jancona came back :)
Aug 16 14:12:25 <abram|work_> ^^
Aug 16 15:09:37 <TomaszD> Serdar, what is new in the new build?
Aug 16 15:09:57 <TomaszD> Serdar, I never have any reason to test the new builds if there isn't a publicly accessible changelog
Aug 16 16:37:06 <gnustavo> hello; is it possible to manage contacts without syncronize by gmail?
Aug 16 17:05:03 <Serdar> hello
Aug 16 17:08:27 <gnustavo> [18:36:37] gnustavo: hello; is it possible to manage contacts without syncronize by gmail?
Aug 16 17:13:00 <s0u][ight> hi guys
Aug 16 17:15:39 <Serdar> TomaszD,
Aug 16 17:15:56 <Serdar> serdar-dere.net/~serdar/cup.diff
Aug 16 17:16:00 <Serdar> these changes
Aug 16 17:16:20 <abram> neues killer virus entdeckt, und diesmal gibts ja gar keinen impfstoff :O wie kommt die pharma industrie jez bloss an ihre kohle... :(
Aug 16 17:16:20 <s0u][ight> Serdar what's the bug about calc?
Aug 16 17:17:08 <Serdar> in foyo?
Aug 16 17:17:28 <s0u][ight> yes, it is also present in elcair
Aug 16 17:17:30 <s0u][ight> eclair
Aug 16 17:17:44 <s0u][ight> search and phone don't work either
Aug 16 17:17:52 <s0u][ight> wifi works though :)
Aug 16 17:18:00 <s0u][ight> now gonna add market to it :P
Aug 16 17:18:49 <s0u][ight> Serdar, i thought you said froyo was sd based
Aug 16 17:19:07 <s0u][ight> and last but not least, it doesn't recognize my µsd card
Aug 16 17:24:34 <Serdar1> hm
Aug 16 17:24:44 <s0u][ight> Serdar1, my µsdcard isn't recognized by froyo, is that a known bug?
Aug 16 17:25:05 <Serdar1> I think so
Aug 16 17:25:34 <s0u][ight> crap, no space left on device before all apps were put on it needed for market
Aug 16 17:26:26 <ran000> Hello
Aug 16 17:26:40 <Serdar1> hi ran000
Aug 16 17:26:49 <s0u][ight> hi ran000
Aug 16 17:27:11 <ran000> To recognize SD in froyo two file should be changes: vold.conf and vold.fstab
Aug 16 17:27:11 <s0u][ight> Serdar1, ran000 which partition on the nand device has the most amount of space?
Aug 16 17:27:43 <ran000> here is one line for vold.fstab:
Aug 16 17:27:59 <ran000> dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard auto /block/mmcblk0
Aug 16 17:28:23 <abram> i installed the TomaszD version from yesterday or so. wanna set up my phone with google account but i dont have a network connection. howto use mobile apn? i have o2 serdar, do u know a way to configure it?
Aug 16 17:28:38 <ran000> here is 5 line for vold.conf:
Aug 16 17:28:50 <ran000> volume_sdcard {
Aug 16 17:29:05 <ran000> media_path /block/mmcblk0
Aug 16 17:29:16 <ran000> media_type     mmc
Aug 16 17:29:28 <ran000> mount_point    /mnt/sdcard
Aug 16 17:29:31 <ran000> }
Aug 16 17:29:40 <s0u][ight> ran000, nice
Aug 16 17:30:00 <s0u][ight> ran000, what if i changed that last one to /system/app?
Aug 16 17:30:14 <ran000> I do manually the command: vdc volume mount /mnt/sdcard
Aug 16 17:30:41 <ran000> I think that command should be somewhere in init rc files
Aug 16 17:30:57 <Serdar1> ran000, what's with ums_path?
Aug 16 17:31:55 <ran000> I have not set, but get SD mounted. I am not shue how do this correctly.
Aug 16 17:33:50 <ran000_> To <s0u][ight>: I have a lot space with SD-base froyo.
Aug 16 17:34:58 <s0u][ight> ran000, on /system?
Aug 16 17:35:20 <ran000_> ?
Aug 16 17:35:36 <s0u][ight> ran000_, my /system partition gets full really fast
Aug 16 17:36:06 <ran000_> I have about 4Gb now
Aug 16 17:36:13 <Serdar1> I added them will create a new image
Aug 16 17:36:34 <Serdar1> but first I need to know how to disable animations by default
Aug 16 17:36:50 <s0u][ight> Serdar1, disabling animations with orientation is easy enough :P
Aug 16 17:37:05 <s0u][ight> but 4gb internal memory wtf
Aug 16 17:37:23 <s0u][ight> ran000, where are those 2 files located?
Aug 16 17:39:02 <ran000> jjjj
Aug 16 17:39:13 <ran000>    /system/etc
Aug 16 17:39:56 <ran000> but 4gb internal memory wtf, but I have this on SD.
Aug 16 17:40:57 <s0u][ight> ran000, yes but /system/app is on nand device
Aug 16 17:41:04 <s0u][ight> and that /system gets full too fast
Aug 16 17:41:13 <s0u][ight> Serdar1, can't you change its size?
Aug 16 17:42:08 <ran000_> I am talking about SD-based version.
Aug 16 17:42:12 <s0u][ight> where is it?
Aug 16 17:42:17 <ran000_> All on SD
Aug 16 17:42:21 <s0u][ight> froyo?
Aug 16 17:42:37 <s0u][ight> ran000, can you give me a download link for froyo on sd?
Aug 16 17:42:51 <ran000_> Any  -  cupcake, froyo, eclair
Aug 16 17:43:25 <s0u][ight> :/ when i put froyo on sd it installs on nand
Aug 16 17:43:32 <s0u][ight> or do i have to use that script?
Aug 16 17:43:52 <ran000_> You understend that it tarrible for work now?
Aug 16 17:44:46 <s0u][ight> ran000_, how can i make an sd card install?
Aug 16 17:46:15 <ran000_> I have shown to you a script.   I am uploading current version to rapidshare now.
Aug 16 17:47:04 <s0u][ight> yeah i found that script again
Aug 16 17:47:15 <s0u][ight> ran000_, put that and froyo image on same directory and run?
Aug 16 17:48:27 <ran000_> read carefully : http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=7&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Owner%20Summary%20BuildVersion%20AndroidVersion%20Component
Aug 16 17:50:05 <s0u][ight> ran000_, i have to extract the kernel first?
Aug 16 17:50:28 <abram> how can i configure mobile networking umts on the welcome to freerunner screen?
Aug 16 17:51:43 <s0u][ight> ran000_, i'll wait for your upload
Aug 16 17:51:44 <s0u][ight> bbl
Aug 16 17:52:02 <ran000_> Unforunatly not only extract, but build from repository. Or currently, you can will use one from my image for some time, until chages.
Aug 16 18:02:10 <gnustavo> each day than you think neo is very confusing, since a few days ago I put the cupcake daily-20100805.
Aug 16 18:03:48 <gnustavo> but this is very confusing: the "official" poenmoko relilink to googlecode, and googlecode things are not updated...
Aug 16 18:04:19 <gnustavo> and this channel seems to "clandestine"
Aug 16 18:05:42 <ran000> Here is link for s0u][ight: http://rapidshare.com/files/413323278/froyo.tar
Aug 16 18:05:55 <ran000> Bye
Aug 16 18:06:52 <gnustavo> and I want to register at google group, but I do not know how to do it. Where are the mailing lists with mailman? why everything revolves around their google, then things are elsewhere?
Aug 16 18:08:38 <gnustavo> and write this with an online translator, so do not master enough English, and the information is sparse as to find it on my hand and knowing what I do ...
Aug 16 18:11:44 <gnustavo> however: I am very glad that the neo work. thank you for your work!
Aug 16 18:13:33 <gnustavo> I would like to know more, but if you go into a community is difficult in this case seems cryptic ...
Aug 16 18:19:39 <s0u][ight> hi guys
Aug 16 18:19:46 <abram> freetz
Aug 16 18:21:51 <TomaszD> Serdar1, so these changes fix market?
Aug 16 18:23:37 <TomaszD> abram, so did you figure out how to setup the network?
Aug 16 18:23:45 <abram> no
Aug 16 18:24:01 <TomaszD> my build has adb debugging enabled
Aug 16 18:24:17 <TomaszD> so you need to set up adb, connect to your computer
Aug 16 18:24:23 <TomaszD> and issue a command in the shell
Aug 16 18:24:31 <abram> i'll send that device back and try to get another for less money
Aug 16 18:24:43 <TomaszD> ok
Aug 16 18:25:07 <abram> but i lost the stift da
Aug 16 18:25:10 <abram> pda stift
Aug 16 18:25:15 <abram> wie heißt die kagge
Aug 16 18:25:20 <TomaszD> the stylus
Aug 16 18:25:28 <abram> exactly
Aug 16 18:25:31 <abram> ^^
Aug 16 18:25:36 <abram> never used that thing
Aug 16 18:26:05 <TomaszD> are you guys here German?
Aug 16 18:26:13 <abram> i am
Aug 16 18:26:20 <abram> Serdar seems to be too
Aug 16 18:26:23 <TomaszD> yep
Aug 16 18:27:33 <s0u][ight> i thought Serdar is a turkish name though
Aug 16 18:27:35 <s0u][ight> -_-'
Aug 16 18:27:38 <abram> :D
Aug 16 18:28:01 <s0u][ight> i'm unable to make an sdcard version
Aug 16 18:28:02 <TomaszD> Serdar1, could you add the Era MMS and Era Internet apns next time around?
Aug 16 18:28:04 <s0u][ight> anyone to help me?
Aug 16 18:30:24 <TomaszD> nope
Aug 16 18:30:25 <TomaszD> :)
Aug 16 18:30:30 <abram> :D
Aug 16 18:30:39 <s0u][ight> thanks a lot :D
Aug 16 18:30:43 <abram> np
Aug 16 18:31:03 <gnustavo> i'm spain
Aug 16 18:31:25 <s0u][ight> really the script isn't working for me
Aug 16 18:31:37 <TomaszD> never tried it
Aug 16 18:31:46 <TomaszD> I just want cupcake with a working market
Aug 16 18:32:15 <s0u][ight> TomaszD, possible to to
Aug 16 18:32:19 <s0u][ight> to do*
Aug 16 18:32:27 <TomaszD> of course it is
Aug 16 18:32:32 <TomaszD> but I don't know how
Aug 16 18:32:37 <s0u][ight> i know :P
Aug 16 18:32:48 <TomaszD> well I know the basics too
Aug 16 18:32:52 <s0u][ight> i got it working on eclair previously
Aug 16 18:33:12 <TomaszD> there's a build with google apps floating around
Aug 16 18:33:14 <TomaszD> I made it
Aug 16 18:33:20 <TomaszD> but market fails to download
Aug 16 18:33:26 <s0u][ight> :|
Aug 16 18:33:27 <TomaszD> s0u][ight, any ideas?
Aug 16 18:33:43 <s0u][ight> TomaszD, checked the permissions of Vending.apk?
Aug 16 18:33:54 <TomaszD> s0u][ight, how do I check that
Aug 16 18:34:02 <s0u][ight> ls -l Vending*
Aug 16 18:34:24 <TomaszD> s0u][ight, in adb shell?
Aug 16 18:34:28 <s0u][ight> yes
Aug 16 18:34:40 <TomaszD> one moment then...
Aug 16 18:35:01 <TomaszD> in the mean time try troubleshooting more options, because I don't think this is the problem :P
Aug 16 18:35:12 <TomaszD> we'll see once it boots
Aug 16 18:35:13 <s0u][ight> TomaszD, it most certainly is :P
Aug 16 18:35:26 <s0u][ight> TomaszD, that's just checking the permissions it has
Aug 16 18:35:31 <TomaszD> I'm going to be very happy if it is
Aug 16 18:35:47 <s0u][ight> not sure but if not try chmod 6755 Vending.apk
Aug 16 18:37:07 <TomaszD> battery died
Aug 16 18:37:12 <s0u][ight> crap :D
Aug 16 18:37:21 <TomaszD> well, I did the old trick to revive it
Aug 16 18:37:24 <TomaszD> booting
Aug 16 18:37:45 <TomaszD> I have an old revision freerunner
Aug 16 18:38:00 <TomaszD> I have to hold the aux button while putting the battery in and then attach power to usb
Aug 16 18:38:55 <TomaszD> -rw-r--r-- root     root       361620 2010-08-12 19:02 Vending.apk
Aug 16 18:39:01 <TomaszD> does that tell you anything?
Aug 16 18:40:08 <s0u][ight> hmm copy that one to somewhere else, where going to mess a bit :P
Aug 16 18:40:17 <s0u][ight> we're
Aug 16 18:40:28 <TomaszD> this is my "mess" phone, no worries
Aug 16 18:40:42 <s0u][ight> once backed up try chmod 6755 Vending.apk
Aug 16 18:40:54 <TomaszD> I did, let my try to connect to wifi now
Aug 16 18:42:12 <TomaszD> s0u][ight, no change, download unsuccessful :(
Aug 16 18:42:44 <s0u][ight> rebooted?
Aug 16 18:42:47 <TomaszD> no
Aug 16 18:42:56 <TomaszD> ok... wait..
Aug 16 18:43:15 <s0u][ight> i believe you have to reboot once changed permissions
Aug 16 18:43:26 <TomaszD> rebooting
Aug 16 18:43:43 <TomaszD> s0u][ight, did you also have the "download unsuccessful" first?
Aug 16 18:44:06 <s0u][ight> TomaszD, my /system partition was full, thought that was the reason for unsuccesfull download
Aug 16 18:44:08 <s0u][ight> downloads
Aug 16 18:44:29 <TomaszD> hmm, maybe mine is too, but it's a clean installation
Aug 16 18:44:42 <s0u][ight> TomaszD, installed on sd or nand?
Aug 16 18:44:49 <TomaszD> nand
Aug 16 18:45:00 <s0u][ight> :) /system partition is most likely full
Aug 16 18:45:15 <s0u][ight> that's why i want to create an sd based install :)
Aug 16 18:45:29 <TomaszD> no place for at least one small simple app?
Aug 16 18:45:30 <s0u][ight> checking out the script now, will do things manually
Aug 16 18:45:57 <s0u][ight> TomaszD, if like what happened to me, no
Aug 16 18:46:42 <TomaszD> download unsuccessful, damn
Aug 16 18:47:07 <s0u][ight> TomaszD, doing this on cupcake?
Aug 16 18:47:15 <TomaszD> s0u][ight, yes
Aug 16 18:47:26 <s0u][ight> TomaszD, try the sd based version of it
Aug 16 18:47:27 <s0u][ight> install there
Aug 16 18:47:39 <TomaszD> # df
Aug 16 18:47:46 <TomaszD> # df
Aug 16 18:47:57 <TomaszD> dang
Aug 16 18:48:09 <TomaszD> http://paste-it.net/public/z8faf0e/
Aug 16 18:48:31 <TomaszD> there *is* space available
Aug 16 18:48:48 <s0u][ight> :| what
Aug 16 18:49:04 <s0u][ight> that's like 20 mb
Aug 16 18:49:33 <TomaszD> yes
Aug 16 18:49:43 <TomaszD> should be enough for a 600kb app
Aug 16 18:49:49 <TomaszD> brb, you think on it :P
Aug 16 18:58:05 <gnustavo> TomaszD this df is inside the neo? http://paste-it.net/public/z8faf0e/
Aug 16 18:58:46 <TomaszD> gnustavo, yes, inside adb shell
Aug 16 19:00:21 <gnustavo> I downloaded the SDK and i go to tools and command user@debian ./abs shell top
Aug 16 19:01:24 <TomaszD> you mean adb, not abs :)
Aug 16 19:01:36 <TomaszD> it's better to just copy the adb binary to /usr/bin
Aug 16 19:03:07 <gnustavo> ok sorry ./adb ; but did you make the same? my point: is not possible to do a direct ssh or scp from gnu to neo?
Aug 16 19:03:09 <s0u][ight> TomaszD, or add its directory to path
Aug 16 19:03:19 <TomaszD> that will work too
Aug 16 19:03:45 <TomaszD> gnustavo, it is, but I don't think it's possible in android
Aug 16 19:03:56 <TomaszD> you only have the shell, I could be wrong though
Aug 16 19:04:28 <TomaszD> but the shell works mostly like ssh, only you have to connect via usb
Aug 16 19:04:41 <TomaszD> you can push and pull files to and from the device this way
Aug 16 19:05:01 <gnustavo> ok, previously i've install qtopia or shr, and i've ssh by usb
Aug 16 19:05:16 <Serdar1> TomaszD, give me the apn
Aug 16 19:06:14 <gnustavo> i've updated from april's relase to cupcake-daily-20100805 and whith ./adb I backup my profiles...
Aug 16 19:06:39 <s0u][ight> wow, i think i'm able to make an sd card version
Aug 16 19:06:40 <s0u][ight> :)
Aug 16 19:06:51 <gnustavo> but i prefer *direct* scp and ssh
Aug 16 19:07:23 <gnustavo> can i follow your work?
Aug 16 19:07:27 <TomaszD> Serdar1, http://paste-it.net/public/td9285f/
Aug 16 19:07:44 <s0u][ight> but it's time to eat,
Aug 16 19:07:48 <gnustavo> this site is old! http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/
Aug 16 19:07:53 <TomaszD> Serdar1, by the way, here's a small secret http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/wiki/APNlist
Aug 16 19:07:58 <Serdar1> http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/wiki/APNlist
Aug 16 19:08:16 <Serdar1> if it's there we will have it
Aug 16 19:08:19 <s0u][ight> haven't eaten since before daylight :)
Aug 16 19:08:26 <TomaszD> Serdar1, it's there
Aug 16 19:08:34 <Serdar1> then we need a sync
Aug 16 19:08:37 <TomaszD> Serdar1, you're copying the whole list now right?
Aug 16 19:08:47 <Serdar1> jancona, can we sync with http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/wiki/APNlist for cupcake and master?
Aug 16 19:08:59 <Serdar1> TomaszD, no I don't
Aug 16 19:11:59 <gnustavo> it's so difficult follow us!
Aug 16 21:27:15 <djp> freerunner hardware question; any ideas if it just won't power up ?
Aug 16 21:27:58 <djp> I had a friend looking into getting android on it, he had some success, when he returned the unit recently, it seems DOA
Aug 16 21:28:02 <DJ_Steve> its batters flast?
Aug 16 21:28:49 <djp> lots of charging time, with or without power cable, nada
Aug 16 21:29:12 <djp> so maybe the batters are indeed flast ;)
Aug 16 21:30:16 <djp> flast as a pacnake
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