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Sep 23 11:29:30 <Gizmoman> Hi everyone. Any developers out there interrested on working on an Open Source Android based smartphone?
Sep 23 11:54:45 <Gizmoman> Hi everyone, are there any developers out there who are interrested in workin gon an Open Source Android based Smartphone?
Sep 23 15:05:40 <paulk_> hi!
Sep 23 15:05:49 <paulk_> I've got a problem with my AoF installation
Sep 23 15:06:14 <paulk_> (not the install itself)
Sep 23 15:07:40 <paulk_> I installed AoF on my Neo a few month ago, it always worked as expected, but today, I choosen to replace Qi by U-Boot. I specified the option to use a bigger kernel (but I tried a few times without), and when I booted, I had the AoF logo, and nothing more (I waited about 30 minutes)
Sep 23 15:07:54 <paulk_> Now I replaced U-Boot by Qi, and I still have the same issue !
Sep 23 15:08:42 <paulk_> How could I make it work ?
Sep 23 15:16:50 <ran000> to paulk_: It seems that you flash qi not for android, but common.
Sep 23 15:18:48 <paulk_> you mean that there is an android specific qi version ?
Sep 23 15:20:33 <ran000_> Please, flash qi from android distribution or newest one from: http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://rapidshare.com/files/416857444/qi.img&usg=AFQjCNHKeebkDp7ZTHygYqgTopMSHd6eag
Sep 23 19:26:41 <niels_> updated packaging script to handle TARGET_PRODUCT
Sep 23 19:27:10 <niels_> just downloaded the Froyo branch and compiling now
Sep 23 19:27:41 <niels_> when finished I can do the final tests
Sep 23 19:28:07 <niels_> but script is already finished
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Sep 23 20:48:15 <Serdar> they was an LinuxTag2010 this year
Sep 23 20:48:27 <Serdar> and I hope I can contact google :D
Sep 23 20:57:48 <Serdar> hmm I guess I should ask them tomorrow
Sep 23 20:58:48 <Serdar> we need a stable reslease of cupcake and a better release of froyo, otherwise they will not take us sereosly with our RC1 from last FOSDEM
Sep 23 21:00:39 <niels_> well, time to start some programming, Serdar
Sep 23 21:01:25 <Serdar> I am working on a Filesystem based on memory, there is no time for anything else
Sep 23 21:01:45 <niels_> there are already enough filesystems in the world
Sep 23 21:01:50 <niels_> even in memory
Sep 23 21:02:10 <niels_> what gave you the idea to build yet another FS
Sep 23 21:02:13 <niels_> ?
Sep 23 21:02:33 <Serdar> my professor
Sep 23 21:02:46 <niels_> throw him out
Sep 23 21:02:52 <niels_> who is he?
Sep 23 21:02:55 <niels_> Reiser?
Sep 23 21:03:00 <niels_> :-)
Sep 23 21:03:11 <Serdar> hehe. no it's an EU project
Sep 23 21:03:28 <Serdar> I am mapping the memory as a filesystem.
Sep 23 21:03:46 <Serdar> it must be faster, because writing on memory is faster than writing on hdd
Sep 23 21:04:00 <niels_> obviously
Sep 23 21:04:13 <niels_> ramfs comes to mind
Sep 23 21:04:44 <Serdar> ramfs is only for one machine
Sep 23 21:04:51 <Serdar> what if you got a cluster?
Sep 23 21:05:03 <Serdar> 10 nodes
Sep 23 21:05:06 <Serdar> each with 4 G
Sep 23 21:05:19 <Serdar> you got 40 G ram why not useing it?
Sep 23 21:05:30 <Serdar> sharing your ram
Sep 23 21:05:40 <Serdar> OSS: Object Sharing Service
Sep 23 21:05:49 <niels_> sharing your ram via fibre channel
Sep 23 21:05:54 <niels_> bye bye speed gain
Sep 23 21:06:05 <niels_> anyway
Sep 23 21:06:15 <Serdar> yes but local LAN
Sep 23 21:06:27 <niels_> still slower than a HD
Sep 23 21:06:30 <niels_> a lot slower
Sep 23 21:06:49 <Serdar> no
Sep 23 21:06:58 <Serdar> you got everything local
Sep 23 21:07:13 <Serdar> on your memory but you share any changes
Sep 23 21:08:12 <niels_> so developing in what language?
Sep 23 21:08:20 <Serdar> C
Sep 23 21:08:25 <niels_> c, c++, asm
Sep 23 21:08:51 <Serdar> no one still living is crazy enough to program in asm
Sep 23 21:08:59 <niels_> I am
Sep 23 21:09:03 <niels_> anyway
Sep 23 21:09:09 <Serdar> yes you are :P
Sep 23 21:09:31 <niels_> since you're now learning a lot of c coding
Sep 23 21:09:44 <niels_> I hope you can channel your experience to the AoF project
Sep 23 21:09:49 <Serdar> I am learing to hate C
Sep 23 21:09:58 <niels_> i now the feeling
Sep 23 21:10:14 <niels_> still, it's a great language
Sep 23 21:10:25 <niels_> so, hope you can contribute to AoF very soon
Sep 23 21:10:35 <Serdar> it was a first april fool
Sep 23 21:10:42 <Serdar> I hope so too.
Sep 23 21:10:50 <niels_> need to go now
Sep 23 21:10:56 <Serdar> me too
Sep 23 21:10:57 <niels_> Froyo just finished compiling
Sep 23 21:11:22 <niels_> now I can do my monkey testing with the PackageInstaller script
Sep 23 21:11:28 <Serdar> how to use your script?
Sep 23 21:11:28 <niels_> if everything works
Sep 23 21:11:52 <niels_> if all works we can commit the new version
Sep 23 21:12:18 <niels_> and with that the toolchain is finished
Sep 23 21:12:33 <Serdar> if I run make I get this: make[1]: Koolu.mk: No such file or directory
Sep 23 21:12:57 <niels_> have you synced recently?
Sep 23 21:13:16 <niels_> repo sync in your installer tree?
Sep 23 21:13:17 <Serdar> I made a new checkout now
Sep 23 21:13:35 <Serdar> from scratch
Sep 23 21:13:38 <Serdar> so it must be new
Sep 23 21:13:42 <niels_> and get rid of your changes I saw, because these will brake things for you
Sep 23 21:13:53 <Serdar> it'S missing a Koolu.mk in busybox
Sep 23 21:14:04 <niels_> not anymore
Sep 23 21:14:12 <niels_> it's all there
Sep 23 21:14:36 <niels_> just remove your installer tree from your system and repo init again
Sep 23 21:14:39 <Serdar> nope it's not, check it out
Sep 23 21:14:51 <niels_> Yes it is
Sep 23 21:14:53 <Serdar> I did that
Sep 23 21:15:15 <Serdar> repo init -u git://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_manifest.git -b installer
Sep 23 21:15:19 <Serdar> repo sync
Sep 23 21:15:43 <niels_> and then what?
Sep 23 21:15:58 <Serdar> there is no koolu.mk in busybox
Sep 23 21:16:23 <niels_> yes there is
Sep 23 21:16:53 <niels_> busybox/Koolu.mk
Sep 23 21:17:02 <niels_> I'm looking at it right now
Sep 23 21:17:38 <Serdar> no, I triedI am also looking at busybox but there is no Koolu.mk
Sep 23 21:17:56 <Serdar> MODULE_LICENSE_GPL
Sep 23 21:18:18 <Serdar> this Koolu.mk must be local
Sep 23 21:19:15 <niels_> no
Sep 23 21:19:17 <niels_> http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=154#c11
Sep 23 21:19:37 <niels_> changes were pushed to gitorious by Jim
Sep 23 21:19:50 <Serdar> it is on the git right
Sep 23 21:19:56 <Serdar> but I dobn't get it with sync
Sep 23 21:20:36 <niels_> in that case you need to let Jim know there is something wrong
Sep 23 21:20:54 <niels_> the entire installer tree is fixed with that patch
Sep 23 21:22:20 <Serdar> it's strange
Sep 23 21:22:32 <Serdar> you did a clean sync from scratch now?
Sep 23 21:23:10 <niels_> I've been validating the patches by Sebkuemmel on my local system
Sep 23 21:23:33 <niels_> there were a few things that had to be modified
Sep 23 21:23:43 <niels_> before committing to Jim
Sep 23 21:25:08 <niels_> so the answer is no
Sep 23 21:25:31 <niels_> but the fact that you don't get the file when doing a nice clean repo init is not normal
Sep 23 21:28:44 <niels_> I suggest you post your findings on issue 154 so Jim can that a look at our gitorious to see what is wrong
Sep 23 21:32:18 <niels_> Serdar: can you update issue 154 with your findings?
Sep 23 21:34:22 <Serdar> okay
Sep 23 21:36:05 <Serdar> done
Sep 23 21:36:15 <Serdar> need to go, good night
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