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Nov 17 03:00:20 <ViaToR_SG> I remember that I saw this error when i missed some step
Nov 17 03:00:47 <BlackBsd> thank you
Nov 17 03:01:08 <leftStanding> you can solve it by typing adr kill-server
Nov 17 03:04:43 <ViaToR_SG> :)
Nov 17 03:35:58 <BlackBsd> does the sdk have a source jar for the android.jar?
Nov 17 03:36:09 <BlackBsd> i see their is a doc jar..
Nov 17 03:37:17 <leftStanding> a jar file is just like a zip file, i can't remember what algorithm it uses
Nov 17 05:09:35 <BlackBsd> wonder if its going to support ogg vorbis?
Nov 17 08:55:02 <Lede> in case anyone missed it version M3-RC22a has been released
Nov 17 08:55:26 <Lede> and new blog entry http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2007/11/android-first-week.html
Nov 17 09:07:40 <koshea> hey, i know this is a sketch place to roll on this time this time of night, but anyone have any good links to a doc/tut on deading from the contact service?
Nov 17 09:12:09 <dueynz> there is an example in the docs
Nov 17 09:14:21 <dueynz> http://code.google.com/android/devel/data/contentproviders.html
Nov 17 09:22:00 <ramvi> In eclipse, when I F2 a function there are often links to show more information. When I click them nothing happens. What am I missing? Going to Help > Help Content returns that the documentation isnt installed, is that it?
Nov 17 09:22:29 <koshea> thanks dueynz
Nov 17 09:26:53 <dueynz> np
Nov 17 09:58:25 <Dreadddddd> hi
Nov 17 09:58:36 <Dreadddddd> i have some question
Nov 17 09:58:48 <Dreadddddd> can anybody help me?
Nov 17 09:59:14 <ramvi> Prob not, seems to be awfully quit here, but try asking the question
Nov 17 10:00:28 <Dreadddddd> will andoid linux work with MSM6250 ?
Nov 17 10:00:50 <Lede> according to the FAQ /no/
Nov 17 10:01:04 <Lede> http://code.google.com/android/kb/general.html
Nov 17 10:03:15 <littleball> GWT web has some problem on android browser
Nov 17 10:24:48 <ramvi> Clicking links in F2s (in eclipse) doesnt do anything. Is that just me?
Nov 17 10:28:28 <Lede> ramvi: doesnt do anything here either, just use the online documentation or report a bug/feature request on the forum
Nov 17 10:30:33 <ramvi> but the online docs are far from done :( But ok, if its not only me :)
Nov 17 10:58:42 <jasta> What the fuck?  The NotePad demo isn't even complete.  The NotePadProvider is closed source?
Nov 17 11:02:02 <jasta> Wait, there it is.  That's strange, it didn't show up in Eclipse for some reason.
Nov 17 11:38:48 <Tomasu> I'm wondering if any java pros here could help me out, http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/594027  I'm getting an error, and I cant figure how to fix it..
Nov 17 11:43:25 <Tomasu> nevermind, I'm an idiot ::)
Nov 17 11:43:34 <Tomasu> forgot I made that class abstract...
Nov 17 12:06:10 <timofeyc> iḿ tryin to work through the notepad examples and there is a method that wont compile...
Nov 17 12:06:10 <timofeyc> ArrayAdapter<String> notes = new ArrayAdapter<String>(this, R.layout.notes_row, items); setListAdapter(notes);
Nov 17 12:06:12 <timofeyc> there is no setListAdapter method
Nov 17 12:06:20 <timofeyc> but this method gets called in the NotesList.java example, which does work
Nov 17 12:06:26 <timofeyc> also, i dodnt think the <String> label is valid java...
Nov 17 12:06:42 <timofeyc> although that is generics, which i've never used before
Nov 17 12:10:38 <wom-> instead of Activity derive your activity from ListActivity
Nov 17 12:28:41 <timofeyc> thanks wom-  i missed that change in a previous step...
Nov 17 12:29:11 <timofeyc> i guess i should have guess it was a problem with the class i was extending.
Nov 17 12:37:31 <koshea> what a night
Nov 17 12:37:58 <wom-> timofeyc: np :)
Nov 17 13:04:19 <[AD]Turbo> hi there
Nov 17 13:14:05 <Lede> hm
Nov 17 13:17:01 <Lede> the quake demo actually looks pretty fake
Nov 17 13:17:18 <Lede> it looks projected onto the display :-/
Nov 17 13:24:47 <koshea> i doubt that
Nov 17 13:25:03 <koshea> original quake shouldnt have much problem running on a modern phone
Nov 17 13:26:07 <koshea> i'm pretty bummed that (unless i've totally missed something) that there is no multitouch interface in the API at this point
Nov 17 13:26:21 <koshea> though i guess it would be pretty hard to test a multitouch app in an emulator
Nov 17 13:26:56 <Lede> yeah
Nov 17 13:27:20 <Lede> i accidently tried to use my finger on the monitor once to move the display
Nov 17 13:27:26 <Lede> heh
Nov 17 13:28:16 <koshea> the opengl implementation is really good though, i've got to give them that
Nov 17 13:28:30 <koshea> this opengl + multitouch could be really cool in the future
Nov 17 13:29:05 <koshea> i have a feeling (hope) that multitouch will be added in the next revision when they either release some hardware or some up with a good method for emulating a multitouch interface
Nov 17 14:07:34 <zith_> i've never really understood the value of multitouch
Nov 17 14:07:42 <zith_> especially not on a little cellphone-screen
Nov 17 14:18:59 <koshea> zith_, i felt that way at first, but when you think about it, it adds a lot of value ot the ui
Nov 17 14:19:27 <koshea> humans can interact with objects using more than one finger ;)
Nov 17 14:19:56 <zith_> yes, but especiall on a cellphone it seems so akward
Nov 17 14:20:28 <zith_> i mean, pinching things (like whats being used for zooming out of images and maps) seems alright
Nov 17 14:20:44 <zith_> but the opposite motion, to zoom in, seems a little uncomfortable
Nov 17 14:21:15 <koshea> yeah it needs to be explored more definitely but i see some value in pinching and twisting
Nov 17 14:21:50 <Lede> i havnt seen "twisting" yet being used
Nov 17 14:22:18 <koshea> yeah, im working on it though :)
Nov 17 14:56:24 <Tomasu> hmm, for some reason my database isn't being created...
Nov 17 15:14:22 <billmeltsner> oooh, android IRC.
Nov 17 15:14:22 <billmeltsner> neat.
Nov 17 15:19:37 <jasta> I'm getting a weird error in Eclipse when trying to use a Runnable and Handler.
Nov 17 15:19:55 <jasta> Specifically the error: "The method run() of type new Runnable(){} must override a superclass method"
Nov 17 15:20:13 <jasta> My usage is almost exactly like: file:///usr/local/lib/android/docs/kb/commontasks.html#threading
Nov 17 15:20:23 <jasta> err, well, let me resolve that link :)
Nov 17 15:20:31 <billmeltsner> heh
Nov 17 15:20:58 <jasta> http://code.google.com/android/kb/commontasks.html#threading
Nov 17 15:21:40 <jasta> I'm not very strong with the Java language in general, but I do not see how my test fundamentally differs from their example.
Nov 17 15:21:46 <billmeltsner> so you have @Override
Nov 17 15:21:51 <billmeltsner> followed by public void run() {
Nov 17 15:21:55 <billmeltsner> / code
Nov 17 15:21:57 <billmeltsner> er
Nov 17 15:21:59 <billmeltsner> /// code
Nov 17 15:22:01 <billmeltsner> }
Nov 17 15:22:03 <jasta> Yes.
Nov 17 15:22:05 <billmeltsner> bah IRC confuses my slashed
Nov 17 15:22:07 <billmeltsner> *slashes
Nov 17 15:22:33 <billmeltsner> it's run() with no arguments?
Nov 17 15:22:40 <jasta> yes, returning void.
Nov 17 15:22:43 <billmeltsner> weird.
Nov 17 15:23:20 <jasta> i literally have:
Nov 17 15:24:00 <jasta> final Runnable mSetFeedName = new Runnable() { @Override public void run() { mBusy.dismiss(); mFeedName.setText("foo"); } };
Nov 17 15:24:24 <jasta> and the error is on the line with "public void run() {" (obviously I have that above example broken out more)
Nov 17 15:24:31 * billmeltsner nods
Nov 17 15:24:44 <billmeltsner> that's... really weird
Nov 17 15:24:59 <jasta> I'm just sitting here staring at this error with no way to proceed.
Nov 17 15:25:15 <billmeltsner> the code looks good...
Nov 17 15:25:22 <jasta> So what could be the problem?
Nov 17 15:25:49 <jasta> I could post the entire tarball of my project if you want to try to open it in Eclipse and see if maybe it's something with my JDK or Java runtime?
Nov 17 15:25:56 <billmeltsner> I'll give it a shot, sure.
Nov 17 15:26:06 <jasta> I don't think that's likely, of course.  I just have it pulled out of Debian etch (sun-java5-jdk et al)
Nov 17 15:26:31 <zith_> i was wondering.. if it possible to record sound in the emulator?
Nov 17 15:26:34 <jasta> Ok, but I doubt that the code really works at all, I have not been able to test due to this compile problem.
Nov 17 15:26:41 <zith_> is it*
Nov 17 15:26:43 <jasta> Hang on, let me package...
Nov 17 15:27:42 <billmeltsner> zith_: the SDK will have the capability, but it's not currently implemented.
Nov 17 15:28:12 <zith_> ah too bad, that makes it difficult to write what i had planned :)
Nov 17 15:28:54 <zith_> or maybe i could somehow use recorded sound and open it with my program and then replace it with recording in real time using the mic later?
Nov 17 15:29:11 <zith_> uh.. i wonder why my english has degraded into this
Nov 17 15:29:24 <billmeltsner> heh
Nov 17 15:29:30 <billmeltsner> my english craps out whenever I'm in code mode
Nov 17 15:29:39 <billmeltsner> and theoretically.
Nov 17 15:29:50 <billmeltsner> although sound playback itself is still somewhat of a mystery.
Nov 17 15:29:57 <jasta> billmeltsner: May I e-mail this tarball to you (40k)?
Nov 17 15:30:01 * billmeltsner nods
Nov 17 15:30:41 <zith_> all i really need to do is analyze the sound and output the result graphicly
Nov 17 15:30:49 <billmeltsner> ooh, a visualizer
Nov 17 15:51:01 <jasta> billmeltsner: Thanks for the help, got it built.
Nov 17 15:51:11 <billmeltsner> No problem. Glad to hear it.
Nov 17 15:51:15 * billmeltsner salutes and poofs
Nov 17 16:38:52 <RichardBronosky> can anyone explain what I must do to get 1 click run or debug launches?
Nov 17 16:39:31 <RichardBronosky> sorry, in eclipse.
Nov 17 18:46:01 <varaha> \
Nov 17 18:46:44 <ScaredyCat> /
Nov 17 18:46:54 <meus> |
Nov 17 19:34:13 <BoyMercury> Hello all from spain
Nov 17 19:39:25 <Dralspire> Ola Spain :-)
Nov 17 19:40:36 <dfas> it's 'Hola'
Nov 17 19:40:51 <Dralspire> Yeah, struck me just after I typed it, sorry :D
Nov 17 19:40:54 <BoyMercury> XD
Nov 17 19:40:56 <BoyMercury> no prob.
Nov 17 19:41:16 <BoyMercury> anyone noticed android a bit slow on fullscreen updates?
Nov 17 19:56:46 <stealth210> Why did the developers choose libc (BSD lic) vs glibc when using linux as the platform?
Nov 17 20:13:29 <eskatos> hi
Nov 17 20:13:43 <eskatos> is there any plan to support smartcards in android ?
Nov 17 21:27:03 <jasta> hey bill.
Nov 17 21:44:36 <PITABoy> is Brian Sweetland here?
Nov 17 21:44:44 <PITABoy> or any other kernel developer
Nov 17 21:45:04 <PITABoy> I was wondering how you went about getting support from qualcomm
Nov 17 22:36:58 <dfas> qualcomm is in android?
Nov 17 22:42:15 <Lede> woah, my emulator just rebooted
Nov 17 22:42:21 <Lede> weird
Nov 17 22:44:08 <gpolo> something crashed then
Nov 17 22:44:32 <Lede> no exception was thrown though
Nov 17 22:45:18 <gpolo> maybe the kernel crashed
Nov 17 22:45:51 <Lede> i will try to reproduce it tomorrow, sleep time now
Nov 17 23:11:43 <jasta> does anyone know how the emulator simulates latency and network speeds?
Nov 17 23:12:11 <jasta> it seems that it doesn't do it very accurately.  specifically, it doesn't account for the long build-up and tear-down times that initial data connections seem to take in practice.
Nov 17 23:49:03 <dacarson> jasta: emulator -h shows configurations for -netspeed and -netdelay
Nov 17 23:50:25 <jasta> oh, i had not noticed that (mostly using eclipse to do this)
Nov 17 23:50:57 <jasta> hmm, the min/max arrangement seems strange.  does it just pick at random or does it begin at max and kind of move around closer to min?
Nov 18 00:02:23 <jasta> where are the SQLite databases stored?
Nov 18 00:03:23 <jasta> oh, duh.  /data/data.
Nov 18 00:06:42 <jasta> hehe, neat.  they include a command line sqlite interface on the shell.
Nov 18 01:04:21 <diogofsr> GOGO ANDROID!
Nov 18 01:04:25 <diogofsr> :-)
Nov 18 01:30:38 <Dralspire> So guys, what do you think about a contributor contest for my android wiki where people with great contributions get paid? Is that something that would encourage you to share your wisdom?
Nov 18 02:48:48 <PirateHead> They certainly didn't pick a very cute or fuzzy name for their new product. :o)
Nov 18 02:49:29 <williammeltsner> well, if you prefer, create a cute and fuzzy theme for android :P
Nov 18 02:49:47 <PirateHead> I'm going to fork Android and call it Bunnyrabbit.
Nov 18 02:50:01 <billmeltsner> Better name than IceWeasel
Nov 18 02:50:06 <chippy> hello
Nov 18 02:50:42 <PirateHead> Hey. "Bunnyrabbit Browser" does have a sort of ring to it!
Nov 18 02:51:51 <Dralspire> lol we are proud to present ... the new Motorola P15 BR Plus (BunnyRabbit Plus) :P
Nov 18 02:52:10 <billmeltsner> Nonono
Nov 18 02:52:28 <billmeltsner> it's motorola, so they need some weird four letter name with no vowels
Nov 18 02:52:35 <Dralspire> haha ok
Nov 18 02:52:36 <billmeltsner> RBBT!
Nov 18 02:53:28 <chippy> LTTCE
Nov 18 02:53:56 <billmeltsner> NDRD
Nov 18 02:54:05 <PirateHead> NRRD
Nov 18 02:54:12 <PirateHead> all of you =P
Nov 18 02:54:21 <billmeltsner> lol
Nov 18 02:55:02 <chippy> :)
Nov 18 02:55:28 * Dralspire giggles
Nov 18 02:55:52 <billmeltsner> ewww chatzilla
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