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Nov 30 03:07:22 <ad0le> I can find a way to get the eclipse debuger to work on an android application that doesnt include an Activity (i.e. just a service application)
Nov 30 03:45:18 * ad0le kisses billmeltsner softly on the crest of the neck
Nov 30 03:45:32 <billmeltsner> :O
Nov 30 03:45:47 <ad0le> I cant find a way to get the eclipse debuger to work on an android application that doesnt include an Activity (i.e. just a service application)
Nov 30 05:39:34 <Luniv> nescio: the list view padding is coming from the selector. I looked at the bytecode, and as far as I can tell, it takes the greater of the list or the selector padding for left/right and uses that
Nov 30 06:21:44 <Nescio> Luniv: So, it's not using a ninepatch?
Nov 30 06:22:13 <Nescio> ...it's actually default behavior?  (that's gross)
Nov 30 06:29:43 <Nescio> jasta: .......still waiting.  ;P
Nov 30 07:07:37 <Nescio> wow... slow day for chat
Nov 30 07:09:34 <jasta> Nescio: i'm not gonna release tonight
Nov 30 07:09:39 <jasta> the girlfriend had other plans
Nov 30 07:09:39 <jasta> :)
Nov 30 07:09:56 <Nescio> haha - life comes first :)
Nov 30 07:11:25 <nagaxen> hahahahahahha
Nov 30 07:11:28 <nagaxen> jasta: called that :)
Nov 30 07:11:49 <Nescio> hehe
Nov 30 07:12:14 <Nescio> jasta: Will you have your service working?
Nov 30 07:13:47 <Nescio> (sorry, I haven't been able to give much constructive criticism.. work is killing me this week...err month)
Nov 30 07:15:14 <wom-> warmup question for this morning. have you tried ImageSwitcher.setImageURI? should it load image from disk without any extra hassle or .. didn't do that yesterday :) class is quite poorly documented
Nov 30 07:19:42 <Nescio> Re-Skinning the Emulator: grr... anyone know of a good pic of a t-mo wing in portrait mode? (I have one in landscape, but i dont feel like mapping the rest of the stupid keyboard)
Nov 30 07:46:20 <Nescio> http://nesciodev.googlepages.com/tmo.gif heh
Nov 30 08:24:34 <cutmasta> morning
Nov 30 08:24:54 <Nescio> morning
Nov 30 08:25:36 <kimnotyze> morning
Nov 30 08:27:43 <d03boy> night
Nov 30 08:38:32 * davidw votes for morning
Nov 30 08:39:26 <wom-> yes it's morning :)
Nov 30 08:39:35 <cutmasta> hehe
Nov 30 08:39:57 <cutmasta> next time, i will join with timezones in mind :)
Nov 30 09:18:17 <davidw> here's an interesting referer from my server logs: http://catogne.corp.google.com:4242/?query=abandoned
Nov 30 09:19:23 <cutmasta> davidw, nice
Nov 30 09:21:27 <cutmasta> i got a referer from devicedriven.com`s internal cms
Nov 30 09:30:22 <andreaf> hi *
Nov 30 12:15:05 <ViaToR_SG> :( -ramdisk emulator option dont work :'(
Nov 30 15:43:17 <Android001> I'd like to add our site to the Blogs section, any helpers?
Nov 30 17:38:56 <dims> fyi, poor man's "My Location" - http://davanum.wordpress.com/2007/11/30/android-poor-mans-my-location-show-current-cell-location/
Nov 30 17:40:28 <d03boy> dims, is that your blog?
Nov 30 18:02:27 <davidw> yeah it is, complete with nice 'snap' urls
Nov 30 18:04:17 <davidw> nice work though, dims
Nov 30 18:06:36 <dims> d03boy: yep.
Nov 30 18:06:40 <dims> davidw: thanks
Nov 30 18:12:34 <d03boy> bookmarked
Nov 30 18:12:44 <d03boy> which means you have to keep updating it :P
Nov 30 18:37:26 <mmealling> is there anything in the SDK for creating themes for an Android phone?
Nov 30 18:45:55 <guardian> good evening
Nov 30 18:46:06 <guardian> at least it is here :)
Nov 30 18:50:37 <morrildl> It is morning here
Nov 30 18:51:53 <guardian> 7.50pm exactly :)
Nov 30 18:52:07 <guardian> time for sport
Nov 30 19:00:25 <fumanchu182> I am having problem with the eclipse plugin for android does anyone have a quick second so I may ask a few questions?
Nov 30 19:02:06 <fumanchu182> I am trying to create a test project to play with Android calls and it keeps giving me problems on the package/activity/application properties.
Nov 30 19:58:07 <absentia> is anything ever said her?
Nov 30 19:58:21 <absentia> other than my present statements?
Nov 30 19:58:34 <absentia> (or my previous statements?)
Nov 30 19:59:08 <Zer0Her0> we communicate on higher plain then your measily text chatter
Nov 30 19:59:42 <absentia> what do people here think are good ideas to program for the google contest?
Nov 30 19:59:42 <Zer0Her0> today has been pretty slow in all the channels on freenode that i'm on.
Nov 30 19:59:57 <Zer0Her0> absentia: now that would be cheating ;)
Nov 30 20:00:06 <absentia> ##C++  is hoppin' ... but others are quite slow.
Nov 30 20:00:12 <absentia> zer: no... tell me now!
Nov 30 20:00:17 <Zer0Her0> haha
Nov 30 20:00:34 <absentia> I have a list of 65 C++ projects I'm working on, I need some android projects.
Nov 30 20:00:42 <Zer0Her0> i haven't really been thinking about it yet tell you the truth.
Nov 30 20:01:09 <absentia> I'm bouncing around a few ideas.. . not sure what google would be looking for.
Nov 30 20:02:15 <Zer0Her0> i don't think they are "looking" for anything persay, if it's got a wow factor, or a why didn't i think of that factor you're probably good
Nov 30 20:02:36 <Zer0Her0> but say a notepad or suduku game prob won't get you very far ;)
Nov 30 20:03:26 <bengl> absentia: here's a free idea, cause i'm not using it, you can judge its merit for yourself: a brainfuck interpreter
Nov 30 20:08:16 <absentia> hmmm
Nov 30 20:25:45 <jasta> hmm.
Nov 30 20:28:06 <wom-> fumanchu182: have you tried "Fix project properties".. somewhere in right click menu
Nov 30 20:29:38 <jasta> what would be the best way to determine if a particular widget on screen is visible to the user (i.e. the scrollview that contains it is positioned somewhere else)
Nov 30 20:35:14 <fumanchu182> wom- i figured it out
Nov 30 20:38:26 <jasta> ?
Nov 30 21:16:36 <cat_food> hello there, what do you think of android?
Nov 30 21:16:47 <cat_food> my mom just bought a new phone with windows mobile, and i think its crap
Nov 30 21:16:56 <cat_food> could someone give me their opinion?
Nov 30 21:18:02 <cat_food> fialar : there you are
Nov 30 21:52:04 <absentia> I have yet to see a phone with android on it.
Nov 30 21:52:13 <absentia> I wonder if anyone here is actually... here? awake?
Nov 30 21:52:41 * Dralspire yawns and throws the alarm clock at the noise maker :P
Nov 30 21:55:56 <jasta> absentia: you have yet to see one?  does that surprise you?
Nov 30 21:57:15 <ersi> It's just an SDK.. and it's not implemented by any phonemaker at the moment, or atleast nothing has been released.. so yeah, no wonder mate
Nov 30 22:02:46 <getoo> since Apple said they will open up for 3rd  party software for iPhone , can i install it on iphone
Nov 30 22:03:01 <getoo> please go wasy on me i am young and immature :)
Nov 30 22:03:24 <getoo> ogunnaike: what do you think about that
Nov 30 22:03:50 <ogunnaike> hmm.. thats a very sensitive issue
Nov 30 22:04:15 <ogunnaike> i dont think googles in the business of supporting apple stuff
Nov 30 22:04:43 <getoo> ogunnaike: u can prpgram iphone stuff on macs , i dont see why not
Nov 30 22:04:55 <getoo> i meant android
Nov 30 22:04:57 <getoo> sorry
Nov 30 22:05:35 <ogunnaike> ok, you might have to brick your iphone first maybe
Nov 30 23:14:42 <morrildl> ahh, Friday.
Nov 30 23:19:19 <guardian> saturday here :)
Nov 30 23:19:35 <guardian> good night
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