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Dec 02 03:08:08 <kay2> hi
Dec 02 03:08:22 <kay2> does android have it's own GSM stack ?
Dec 02 03:10:02 <Luniv> I'm not sure, but if did, it'd be in android.telephony & android.telephony.gsm
Dec 02 03:10:13 <Luniv> you might want to look at the javadocs for those two packages
Dec 02 03:11:22 <kay2> mmh
Dec 02 03:11:30 <kay2> they still havent release the library part ?
Dec 02 03:11:41 <kay2> only the java part is public ?
Dec 02 03:14:22 <Luniv> it's an early release, so only parts of it available
Dec 02 03:21:46 <kay2> Luniv: the media library with the codec are not available ?
Dec 02 03:27:34 <Luniv> kay2: sorry, no idea. I;ve been mostly playing with the UI part of android implementing a RSS reader
Dec 02 04:41:33 <jasta> alright, posted to android-dev.  i'm gonna go pay attention to my lady friend now :)
Dec 02 04:56:00 <dims> jasta: hope you have seen this url already (http://code.google.com/android/kb/commontasks.html#threading)
Dec 02 04:56:12 <jasta> yes, of course.
Dec 02 04:56:12 <jasta> why?
Dec 02 04:56:45 <dims> was reading your email...
Dec 02 04:56:45 <dims> > The service is temporarily disabled because I could not figure out an
Dec 02 04:56:45 <dims> > elegant and efficient way to have the service communicate
Dec 02 04:56:45 <dims> > asynchronously with a UI thread
Dec 02 04:57:07 <jasta> dims: Yeah, but I meant a Service, not just a separate thread.
Dec 02 04:57:21 <dims> aha. ok.
Dec 02 04:57:36 <jasta> the Service can (and does) run in a separate process, and communicates with IPC.
Dec 02 04:58:36 <jasta> s/with/via/, i mean.
Dec 02 04:58:51 <dims> got it!
Dec 02 04:59:05 <jasta> you can use bindService() and communicate with the service via an IBinder interface, but this is not asynchronous.
Dec 02 04:59:59 <jasta> that is, the Service could not randomly wake up and start informing the UI what it is doing.  it seems that the UI would need to periodically ask the service what it's doing, which would not be efficient.
Dec 02 05:00:49 <jasta> i am certain that this is not actually true, since i know that the bluetooth service and xmpp services are designed not to work this way, but i can't see how they are implemented, and the documentation is vague, so here i am :)
Dec 02 05:00:56 <dims> yep
Dec 02 05:58:43 <Luniv> *sigh* I feel stupid. I don't know how to get my list to refresh it's state after I collapse a section :s
Dec 02 06:12:56 <jasta> Luniv: you can invalidate the View?
Dec 02 06:13:10 <jasta> or is that not what you mean?
Dec 02 07:26:47 <FunnyLookinHat> I've got a fun question...  let's say that I want to use the library javax.speech for an android... can I do this even though it's not built into the default android libs?
Dec 02 07:27:02 <FunnyLookinHat> well, i want to import javax.speech I mean
Dec 02 07:27:23 <FunnyLookinHat> omg never mind.
Dec 02 07:27:28 <FunnyLookinHat> Sorry guys I'm slow tonight   : )
Dec 02 07:46:16 <FunnyLookinHat> dang the speech-to-text libraries seem very under-developed / implemented
Dec 02 08:13:57 <jerkface03> what? is it giving you a link error?
Dec 02 08:14:08 <jerkface03> welcome to the world of android, where half the apis aren't implemented on the emulator
Dec 02 08:15:36 <FunnyLookinHat> yeah...  it sucks.
Dec 02 08:15:50 <FunnyLookinHat> I'd love to start work on a background app that will recognize speech and convert it to textual input
Dec 02 08:16:02 <FunnyLookinHat> but the library is about half converted from the original javax.speech libs
Dec 02 08:16:18 <jerkface03> i'd tell you to write your own lib but i dont even think the media input api is even implemented yet
Dec 02 08:16:28 <FunnyLookinHat> yet another issue   :)
Dec 02 08:16:40 <FunnyLookinHat> Kind of hard to test speech recognition with no viable input source, hahaha
Dec 02 08:17:31 <FunnyLookinHat> I'll try to implement a variable and the default create classes don't even exist
Dec 02 08:18:13 <Lede> android isa google april fools day joke
Dec 02 08:18:34 <FunnyLookinHat> LOL
Dec 02 08:18:55 <Lede> i'm glad atleast someone finds it funny :)
Dec 02 08:20:01 <FunnyLookinHat> so long as it eventually becomes more filled out, it's definitely funny
Dec 02 08:20:08 <FunnyLookinHat> but if it never matures I'll get pissy.
Dec 02 08:50:48 <jasta> Lede: I think the real April fool's joke will be when, on April 1st, they announce the API finally works as intended :)
Dec 02 12:16:26 <andreaf> hi *
Dec 02 14:00:48 <Lede_> Bye
Dec 02 14:01:03 <Lede> hello
Dec 02 14:01:14 <Lede> :)
Dec 02 20:02:22 <|fumanchu182|> I am having problems importing Notepad1 exercise into eclipse I get the following error: Android requires compiler compliance level 5.0. Please fix project properties.  I can build the HelloWorld app but what might I be doing wrong to get this error?
Dec 02 20:04:51 <Luniv> check the Java Compiler properties page of the project
Dec 02 20:05:32 <fumanchu182> Let me look at thow now.
Dec 02 20:06:45 <fumanchu182> Project -> Properties and then Java Compiler.
Dec 02 20:06:50 <fumanchu182> I get nothing all greyed out.
Dec 02 20:07:06 <fumanchu182> and the checkbox for "enable project specific settings" is unclicked.
Dec 02 20:07:46 <fumanchu182> once i check that and click apply
Dec 02 20:07:50 <fumanchu182> i get small warnings
Dec 02 20:08:15 <xbit> who cares about warnings :)
Dec 02 20:08:18 <Luniv> heh
Dec 02 20:08:34 <fumanchu182> Well I am runnig the project.
Dec 02 20:08:38 <fumanchu182> See what happens now.
Dec 02 20:10:08 <fumanchu182> Ran fine.
Dec 02 20:10:10 <fumanchu182> Hmm...
Dec 02 20:10:42 <fumanchu182> thanks Luniv
Dec 02 20:10:53 <Luniv> np
Dec 02 20:10:59 <fumanchu182> Also I learned about right clicking on project -> fix project problems.
Dec 02 20:11:05 <fumanchu182> that works too
Dec 02 20:16:45 <fumanchu182> It has been a while since I used Java, I feel rusty.
Dec 03 02:08:39 <jasta> yawn
Dec 03 02:16:02 * jasta yawns again, but this time louder
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