**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 01 02:59:56 2009
Nov 01 04:23:28 <ademilsonfp> hello!
Nov 01 04:25:56 <bk> DAAMN
Nov 01 04:26:04 <bk> i have a question
Nov 01 04:26:17 <bk> where is a list of android supported phones
Nov 01 04:26:36 <bk> ive searched all over and cant get a good list, i can only get blog posts with like 2 phones
Nov 01 04:26:54 <JesusFreke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_devices
Nov 01 04:27:14 <bk> your a life saver
Nov 01 04:27:24 <JesusFreke> google ftw :p
Nov 01 04:27:26 <bk> debating on getting an android phone or iphone
Nov 01 04:27:28 <bk> lol
Nov 01 04:27:29 <bk> i did
Nov 01 04:27:33 <bk> never got that link
Nov 01 04:27:42 <JesusFreke> ur not doing it right ;)
Nov 01 04:27:56 <JesusFreke> to be fair, I didn't get the link directly from google. it was one off :p
Nov 01 04:28:08 <ademilsonfp> I downloaded the sdk 2.0 and when I created a new avd there was no targets! can somebody help me?
Nov 01 04:28:46 <JesusFreke> ademilsonfp: just type android. It will launch a GUI where you can pick platforms to download/install/add
Nov 01 04:29:10 <bk> can you listen to music and stuff on android, and hook it up in a car?
Nov 01 04:29:14 <bk> like iphone?
Nov 01 04:29:27 <JesusFreke> with bluetooth or 3.5mm cord, sure
Nov 01 04:29:48 <bk> cool
Nov 01 04:29:48 <JesusFreke> although with most of htc's phones you have to get the 3.5mm adapter
Nov 01 04:29:49 <ademilsonfp> JesusFreke, thank you
Nov 01 04:30:27 <JesusFreke> bk: I use the "five" application to stream my music collection from my home server to my phone, over 3g :)
Nov 01 04:30:43 <bk> this is looking more and more likely for me to get
Nov 01 04:30:55 <JesusFreke> but five isn't released yet. you would have to get the source and build it
Nov 01 04:30:55 <bk> i like the "run more than one application at once"
Nov 01 04:31:02 <bk> and the
Nov 01 04:31:10 <bk> "not locked in to att"
Nov 01 04:31:43 <JesusFreke> and the part about google not having to approve each and every application in the market :)
Nov 01 04:32:05 <bk> true
Nov 01 04:32:08 <bk> although, that i dont mind
Nov 01 04:32:32 <bk> im not a dev
Nov 01 04:32:40 <JesusFreke> You don't mind apple restricting what applications you can run?
Nov 01 04:32:55 <bk> not really
Nov 01 04:32:59 <rikupw> herm
Nov 01 04:33:09 <bk> although, i do like the voice app
Nov 01 04:33:11 <rikupw> even if i was just an "end user"
Nov 01 04:33:11 <bk> and would like it
Nov 01 04:33:24 <JesusFreke> personally, I like to be able to choose what I run on my phone for myself :)
Nov 01 04:33:30 <rikupw> I would very much like to have the option to have any application that I choose
Nov 01 04:33:36 <JesusFreke> exactly
Nov 01 04:33:46 <rikupw> key words:  "choice"  "options"
Nov 01 04:34:08 <rikupw> apple words: "restricted" quote "app store" unquote
Nov 01 04:34:56 <rikupw> and then theres the other thing, you'll get new apps within an hour of being published on the market
Nov 01 04:35:14 <JesusFreke> with android, even if google decides to take an app off of the market, you can still download it and install it yourself
Nov 01 04:35:15 <bk> cool
Nov 01 04:35:18 <rikupw> instead of waiting 2 weeks to 2 months for the app to be even accepted, and then you have to wait for them to actually push them.
Nov 01 04:35:47 <JesusFreke> which has happened, for example with some of the tethering applications
Nov 01 04:36:07 <rikupw> yea, I bought an app from way back in march, a tethering app actually (one that I very much liked)
Nov 01 04:36:46 <rikupw> and its STILL in the download tab.  its not like you can't redownload them, which makes sense.
Nov 01 04:36:59 <JesusFreke> lol
Nov 01 04:37:12 <rikupw> hell, it still works on 1.6!
Nov 01 04:37:18 <rikupw> XD
Nov 01 04:37:44 <JesusFreke> that's interesting :). I wouldn't have expected you to be able to re-download it after they took it off. But if you couldn't, I would also expect a refund. heh
Nov 01 04:37:53 <rikupw> yea seriously
Nov 01 04:37:54 <tgz_> can anyone tell me how to reset my youtube *username*? i'm not uploading as the right user but it keeps popping a password dialog for a username i can't change
Nov 01 04:38:16 <rikupw> its connected to you google account after you connect it, I think?
Nov 01 04:38:23 <ademilsonfp> JesusFreke, there is no targets in gui mode too
Nov 01 04:38:35 <JesusFreke> ademilsonfp: you have to add them
Nov 01 04:38:37 <rikupw> and another thing, if you don't like an app that you download, if its paid you can uninstall it and get a refund within the first 24 hours
Nov 01 04:38:58 <rikupw> which is awesome imho
Nov 01 04:39:03 <bk> dang
Nov 01 04:39:05 <bk> that is nice
Nov 01 04:39:20 <rikupw> yea
Nov 01 04:39:25 <rikupw> incredibly.  :)
Nov 01 04:39:50 <JesusFreke> bk: another list for ya
Nov 01 04:39:51 <JesusFreke> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/19/android-galore-a-complete-list-of-the-android-phones-and-their-specs-droid-best/
Nov 01 04:39:53 <rikupw> besides, whats better than having one of the most widely used search engine on your phone, by default.
Nov 01 04:40:56 <zinx> rikupw: COOL HOW DO I GET BING BY DEFAULT
Nov 01 04:42:05 <rikupw> zinx,  LOL
Nov 01 04:42:34 <ademilsonfp> JesusFreke: how I add a target?
Nov 01 04:42:56 <leoncismeck> Is anyone working on a better media player for android yet?
Nov 01 04:44:00 <tgz_> rikupw: were you talking to me btw?
Nov 01 04:44:10 <ademilsonfp> in the hello world tutorial just tell to use one to create a avd
Nov 01 04:44:29 <JesusFreke> ademilsonfp: available packages, then expand the entry, and install whatever you need
Nov 01 04:44:31 <rikupw> to who, tgall_foo ?  earlier, yes, afaik its connected directly to your google account
Nov 01 04:44:46 <rikupw> erm, sorry tgall_foo *** mean't tgz_ XD
Nov 01 04:45:24 <bk> is there an onscreen keyboard?
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