**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 30 02:59:57 2006 Nov 30 04:29:02 !google test Nov 30 04:29:04 Test Central Home @ http://www.test.com/ | Bandwidth Speed Test @ http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/ | Political Compass @ http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Nov 30 10:02:11 koen: any idea how well prgresssed n2100 support is? Nov 30 10:02:31 near perfect iirc Nov 30 10:02:51 lennert spent 3 weeks at his in-laws working on it and pushing stuff upstream Nov 30 10:03:08 koen: cool, tell him to make OE support :-) Nov 30 10:03:10 at the same time the intel dudes were submitting their own stuff Nov 30 10:05:58 bitbake supernas-image :-D Nov 30 10:07:34 koen: BTW did you notice I put in a stable fontconfig yesterday Nov 30 10:07:34 http://bec-systems.com/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=9 Nov 30 10:07:34 this should be noted someone on OE website Nov 30 10:08:14 cbrake wrote nice thing Nov 30 10:08:15 ops #oe ;) Nov 30 10:08:28 XorA: yes, I did: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf Nov 30 10:09:13 koen: damn, I never got a change email for that Nov 30 10:18:43 ~lart koen for always bumping PR on glibc Nov 30 10:18:43 * cdbot pours hot grits down the front of koen's pants for always bumping PR on glibc Nov 30 10:20:20 my buildbox spent most of the night building glibc for armv4t, armv5te and i686 Nov 30 10:20:49 XorA: I also bumper PR on mplayer Nov 30 10:22:33 bumped* Nov 30 10:30:50 koen: I keep meaning to remove that opie junk :-) Nov 30 10:31:48 koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages$ ls | grep opie Nov 30 10:31:48 koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages$ Nov 30 10:32:06 koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages$ ls nonworking/foo/ | grep opie | wc -l Nov 30 10:32:07 175 Nov 30 10:32:21 * XorA_ chuckles Nov 30 10:32:25 a small touch of 'mtn mv -e' Nov 30 10:33:01 in the unlikely event that someone updates opie montone will know where to find the files Nov 30 10:33:38 poor opie, killed by one companies pigheadedness Nov 30 10:45:30 * XorA hunts for 350GBP under his desk Nov 30 10:46:14 * koen hands xora a remington 700 Nov 30 10:46:45 * XorA wonders if thats a rifle or a razor Nov 30 10:47:18 it's the base for most sniper rifles around the world Nov 30 10:47:52 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_700 Nov 30 10:54:49 * XorA is tempted to order a silvstor m-box Nov 30 10:57:17 no google juice for that Nov 30 11:03:26 koen: thecus by another name Nov 30 11:04:33 and a 512MB DIMM Nov 30 11:05:04 256 Nov 30 11:05:25 can't it handle 512? Nov 30 11:05:37 yeah, but I dont want to spend too much Nov 30 11:05:47 :) Nov 30 11:06:17 comes with 256 Nov 30 11:07:32 and hyboria.mine.nu currently runs on 256M Athlon Nov 30 11:10:52 I upgraded my server to 1GB a while ago Nov 30 11:11:10 oemake took quite some memory Nov 30 11:12:14 koen: that machine just runs email/bittorrent Nov 30 11:12:16 XorA: Does that thing just stream music. I'm after something that will do XViD decoding to my TV too Nov 30 11:12:29 koen: and thats the one I want to replace with an embedded NAS device Nov 30 11:12:43 XorA: my mythbox runs on 256MB Nov 30 11:13:02 and a celeron 2.4GHz Nov 30 11:13:11 "give me the cheapest cpu and dimm" Nov 30 11:13:19 koen: Is it a full size motherboard? Nov 30 11:13:33 * XorA wants to build a mythbox for his HDTV Nov 30 11:14:03 lardman: asus pundit (1) barebone Nov 30 11:14:29 XorA: At least digital TV decoder cards are pretty cheap now Nov 30 11:15:12 lardman: not much interest in decoding, I just want to play Nov 30 11:15:49 lardman: http://uk.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=1&l2=3&l3=410&model=85&modelmenu=1 Nov 30 11:16:25 koen: Looks good Nov 30 11:16:47 iirc only the sd reader isn't supported by linux Nov 30 11:17:17 had to do some "persuading" to fit a full height pci card into it, though Nov 30 11:17:20 XorA: I was going to make a mythbox last year, but it was looking very expensive needing 2 digital decoder cards Nov 30 11:18:23 koen: It's got one of those PCI header cards to turn them sideways? Nov 30 11:18:49 yes, you get 2 almost full height pci slots Nov 30 11:19:06 2mm short of full height Nov 30 11:19:55 I run it over nfsroot, so the HD only spins up for swap Nov 30 11:20:14 no HDMI :-( Nov 30 11:20:50 isn't HDMI dvi + audio? Nov 30 11:22:53 koen: funny little usb like cable Nov 30 11:23:24 * koen still has a good ol' pal crt Nov 30 11:23:46 maybe I'll buy an hdtv when .nl gets HD Nov 30 11:24:01 so ~10 years from now Nov 30 11:25:26 I am hoping sky starts shifting HD boxes cheap nearer christmas Nov 30 11:25:41 then I get the new Dr Who in HD :-) Nov 30 11:39:41 Upgrading libfontconfig1 on root from 2.3.95-r2 to 2.4.1-r0... Nov 30 11:39:53 Upgrading pango on root from 1.14.0-r2 to 1.14.8-r0... Nov 30 11:42:20 :-) Nov 30 11:42:52 * koen ipkg install task-proper-tools Nov 30 12:17:05 how about this for mythtv http://mini-itx.com/store/?c=27 Nov 30 12:19:14 cute, altough a bit too purple Nov 30 12:19:31 my wife would love it, purple is her favourite Nov 30 12:20:38 my friends got married in purple, was quite unusual Nov 30 12:21:12 ade|desk: wicked Nov 30 12:21:25 ade|desk: Our wedding was in dark red Nov 30 12:22:07 our bridesmaids were light and dark blue, debbie in white Nov 30 12:22:24 and it rained :) Nov 30 12:22:34 ade|desk: thats UK for you Nov 30 12:23:15 typical mid august weather Nov 30 12:29:39 * XorA hmms, with the idea of a n2100 serving files upstrairs and VIA mini-itx playing them downstairs Nov 30 12:32:04 hippy laptop doesn't return to the correct speedstep when power is restored ....grrr Nov 30 12:49:59 koen: Angstrom booted on my c7x0 Nov 30 12:50:06 cool Nov 30 12:52:18 koen: no loadkeys segfault Nov 30 12:52:25 koen: and I switched to Xw100 Nov 30 12:52:42 build from scratch, or a download? Nov 30 12:52:53 koen: build from scratch Nov 30 12:53:26 that's good news Nov 30 12:53:49 so 'bootstrap' seems to be working quite well now Nov 30 12:53:57 koen: no idea if thats repeatble for others though Nov 30 12:54:13 koen: this is a full Angstrom-gpe-image Nov 30 12:54:53 dbus doesn't work when launched via xsession :( Nov 30 12:56:30 koen: I have a DBUS_SESSION_ADDRESS Nov 30 12:57:34 *&^#@^#$&@^#&*@^@*&@ Nov 30 12:57:59 * XorA covers his poor innocent little ears Nov 30 13:13:55 * XorA needs a second c7x0 device now Nov 30 13:14:13 XorA: you will be on fosdem? Nov 30 13:14:32 hrw|work: should be Nov 30 13:15:28 I can give my c760 to OE and you will take it Nov 30 13:15:58 hrw|work: No I meant I need one now, to see if I can actually repeat the building of a working Angstrom on different machine Nov 30 13:16:08 hrw|work: I already have 4 Z's here Nov 30 13:16:11 ;) Nov 30 13:16:22 c760 poodle tosa terrier? Nov 30 13:16:28 hrw|work: yeah Nov 30 13:16:37 food time Nov 30 13:31:54 XorA: so basically you gpe image "just works"? Nov 30 13:31:58 your* Nov 30 13:32:09 apart from the missing theme for gpe-login Nov 30 13:41:29 koen: yes Nov 30 13:41:45 koen: well accept my libfontenc failed to make an shlibs data Nov 30 13:41:54 koen: so its missed from the image Nov 30 14:03:50 weird Nov 30 14:11:10 note for the future gcc 4.1.0 is less forgiving of feeding in arm libs into link line, it errors instead of warning Nov 30 14:18:09 you mean x86 gcc? Nov 30 14:18:35 koen: yeah Nov 30 14:18:46 koen: or in this case x86_64 Nov 30 15:56:05 koen: does firefox work for you? Nov 30 15:56:29 haven't tried in a while Nov 30 15:56:43 get Illegal Instruction here Nov 30 15:56:45 XorA: if it crashes, remove the .debug dirs Nov 30 16:05:33 XorA: moz stuff does something like "find . -name *.so | load .so" and chokes on .debug/plugin-foo.so Nov 30 16:06:37 koen: removed those, still Illegal Instructio Nov 30 16:07:00 ah well, ill have to try 1.0.7, the good old version Nov 30 16:56:21 Is there ok to use acpi on a embedded device, or is it to heavy for the it? Nov 30 17:04:15 acpi doesn't exist on embedded devices Nov 30 17:04:19 nor does apm Nov 30 17:04:30 acpi is for x86 cpus Nov 30 17:06:47 koen: But i am using apm on the htc universal. Nov 30 17:07:32 no, you're using in-kernel apm emulation Nov 30 17:07:32 really, is there a same thing for the acpi? Nov 30 17:08:08 no, acpi is a x86 thing Nov 30 17:08:08 ok, thx. Nov 30 21:33:03 hi, is it possible to boot angstrom from flash using haret? Nov 30 21:33:17 sure, why not? Nov 30 21:38:28 koen, why is /sbin/getkey not a part of the angstrom distro? Nov 30 21:38:39 why should it be? Nov 30 21:38:48 nothing uses it in angstrom Nov 30 21:39:17 Because Opie needs it when starting. I know Opie is not a part of it, but i try it make it work, and it does now. Nov 30 21:39:30 koen, i tried to install angstrom using ramdisk rescue, that is by replacing the familiar image with the angstrom one Nov 30 21:39:39 koen, but it hangs at boot Nov 30 21:40:05 koen, according to marcus its because i do not have the right zimage Nov 30 21:40:37 ramdisk rescue isn't in OE Nov 30 21:40:57 we can continue this conversation after it's added to OE Nov 30 21:43:07 koen: Do youknow wich bb files that build getkey, so i can add it localy? Nov 30 21:43:14 koen, ok, are there some instructions for installing/booting angstrom from flash using haret? Nov 30 21:43:20 goxboxlive: no idea, sorry Nov 30 21:43:28 ok Nov 30 21:44:50 koen: while you are here. Nov 30 21:46:10 What have happend with oe lately. In my machin.conf file i have added some lines so modules is loaded druing boot. But, it totaly ignore it. Like snd-mixer-oss and so. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 01 02:59:58 2006