**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 05 02:59:57 2006
Dec 05 04:23:12 <jcole> is bitbake naturally a pain in the ass or is it me?
Dec 05 04:25:48 <jacques> heh
Dec 05 05:00:53 <jcole> so
Dec 05 05:01:01 <jcole> bitbake angstrom-bootstrap-image angstrom-gpe-image
Dec 05 05:01:10 <jcole> i ran that and am waiting
Dec 05 05:01:37 <jcole> it's fetching
Dec 05 05:01:51 <jcole> does it magically create and arm image?
Dec 05 05:01:57 <jcole> or images
Dec 05 05:02:25 * jcole is having gentoo flashbacks
Dec 05 05:02:45 <CoreDump|home> two images, bootstrap an GPE, for the ARCH / MACHINE you've configured
Dec 05 05:02:51 <jacques> it creates kernel and jffs2 rootfs images
Dec 05 05:05:59 <jcole> my cheat sheet -> http://pastebin.ca/267934
Dec 05 05:06:17 <jcole> does that look right?
Dec 05 05:08:16 <jcole> it seems to be happy so far
Dec 05 05:08:37 <jacques> oh, it always does
Dec 05 05:08:50 <jacques> it likes to get your hopes up before it crushes them utterly
Dec 05 05:09:00 <rwhitby> hehe
Dec 05 05:09:00 <jacques> look at me, I can build quilt!
Dec 05 05:09:11 <jacques> bwahh!!! ha ha!!! no image for you!
Dec 05 05:09:32 <jacques> (two hours later)
Dec 05 05:10:18 <jacques> or in my case, "I just don't particularly feel like building big-endian today, how about a nice little-endian instead?"
Dec 05 05:13:54 <jcole> this might be a dumb question, but why not use a build server? and just simply install needed packages/kernels?
Dec 05 05:16:33 <jacques> use a build server to do what?
Dec 05 05:16:43 <jcole> for angstrom
Dec 05 05:17:09 <jcole> why does one need to set up bitbake and such
Dec 05 05:17:41 <jcole> not there yet?
Dec 05 05:18:43 <jacques> there are some binary images available, but if they don't match your needs, you have to build it yourself
Dec 05 05:19:26 <jacques> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/
Dec 05 05:20:41 <jcole> should set it up like debian does it
Dec 05 05:20:49 <jcole> where you can just plop a source package in the repo
Dec 05 05:20:57 <jcole> and it auto-compiles binary .deb files for all architectures on the build servers
Dec 05 05:21:40 <jcole> daily builds
Dec 05 05:25:14 <jcole> this is like gentoo, and life is too short to run gentoo
Dec 05 05:27:41 * jcole shuts up and downloads the builds
Dec 05 05:27:43 <jcole> lol
Dec 05 05:30:31 <jcole> what are the -summary files?
Dec 05 05:30:57 <NAbyss_> jcole: That's what the feeds are..
Dec 05 05:31:11 <NAbyss_> jcole: Install a base image, and suck the feeds down (.ipk packages) over http from the device
Dec 05 05:33:04 <jcole> Angstrom-bootstrap-image-test-20061127-hx4700.rootfs-summary.jffs2
Dec 05 05:33:07 <jcole> Angstrom-bootstrap-image-test-20061127-hx4700.rootfs.jffs2
Dec 05 05:33:24 <jcole> the -summary has feeds?
Dec 05 05:33:51 <jcole> Angstrom-gpe-image-test-20061127-hx4700.rootfs-summary.jffs2
Dec 05 05:33:52 <jcole> Angstrom-gpe-image-test-20061127-hx4700.rootfs.ext2  
Dec 05 05:33:54 <NAbyss_> jcole: I've no idea how the -summary differs, but, yes, once you've got angstrom installed, you should be able to use the package tools to download from the feeds
Dec 05 05:34:30 <jcole> they are a little bigger
Dec 05 06:02:39 <jcole> ERROR: '/home/jcole/Desktop/hx4700/org.openembedded.dev/packages/qemu/qemu-native_cvs.bb, do_configure' failed
Dec 05 06:03:08 <jcole> crap
Dec 05 06:05:12 <jacques> you are maybe having gcc4 native?
Dec 05 06:05:29 <jacques> qemu doesn't like gcc4
Dec 05 06:08:33 <jcole> hmm http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/qemu
Dec 05 06:08:37 <jcole> gcc-3.4
Dec 05 06:09:05 <jcole> so
Dec 05 06:09:18 <jcole> can't i just use the local qemu?
Dec 05 06:09:35 <jacques> look at the configure log - it should be in the error message
Dec 05 06:09:47 <jacques> that will tell you why it failed to configure
Dec 05 06:11:38 <jcole> i'm running update-alternatives to point to gcc 3.4...
Dec 05 06:14:42 <NAbyss_> jcole: Install local qemu, and add this to local.conf:
Dec 05 06:15:03 <NAbyss_> ASSUME_PROVIDED += "qemu-native"
Dec 05 06:15:04 <jcole> ok
Dec 05 06:15:20 <NAbyss_> that /should/ fix it
Dec 05 06:15:48 * jcole tries
Dec 05 06:15:49 <NAbyss_> Alternatively, I think you should be able to apt-get install gcc-3.4
Dec 05 06:18:43 <jcole> i added that line and it's now starting over
Dec 05 06:19:59 <jcole> is the bootstrap the kernel? --> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/20061127/hx4700/
Dec 05 06:20:22 <jcole> or just a bare image
Dec 05 06:20:28 <NAbyss_> I'm pretty sure it's a bare image
Dec 05 06:20:31 <NAbyss_> the zImage.bin is the kernel
Dec 05 06:20:44 <jcole> i don't see it
Dec 05 06:21:43 <jcole> i found it in another day
Dec 05 06:21:48 <jcole> nm
Dec 05 06:22:07 <jcole> these files all seem to be adhoc
Dec 05 06:22:10 <jcole> NAbyss_: thatnks
Dec 05 06:24:44 <NAbyss_> jcole: no probs
Dec 05 06:25:24 <jcole> i think i need a home image too
Dec 05 06:26:12 <NAbyss_> Hmm, the home partition should be autocreated by the distro on boot
Dec 05 06:26:28 <NAbyss_> Well, the settings etc.
Dec 05 06:26:28 <NAbyss_> It should already exist as a formatted partition
Dec 05 06:34:37 <jcole> the dpkg files need no building right? just use the feeds like familiar?
Dec 05 06:34:47 <jcole> ipkg
Dec 05 06:35:17 <NAbyss_> Correct, ipkg operates like a cross of apt-get and dpkg.. you should be able to ipkg update to grab the feed list, then ipkg install package which'll suck it down and install it
Dec 05 07:15:56 <jcole> good night y'all
Dec 05 07:16:20 <jcole> NAbyss_ jacques: thanks for all your help
Dec 05 07:16:25 <jcole> i'll be back tomorrow
Dec 05 16:43:40 <Genesis> good night
Dec 05 18:57:02 <cyrilRomain> morning all
Dec 05 22:04:55 <bart__> koen, hi
Dec 05 22:05:09 <koen> hey bart__ 
Dec 05 22:05:35 <bart__> koen, you told me it's possible to boot angstrom using haret, can you explain me how I could do that?
Dec 05 22:06:25 <koen> booting the kernel should be enough
Dec 05 22:11:42 <bart__> koen, which version do you recommend?
Dec 05 22:12:35 <koen> the zImage that comes with the image
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