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Dec 13 09:11:57 <ade|desk> morning morning
Dec 13 09:16:10 <XorA> hey ade|desk 
Dec 13 09:16:30 <XorA> ade|desk: what distro do you use for building~?
Dec 13 09:20:05 <ade|desk> debian etch
Dec 13 09:20:39 <XorA> ade|desk: there is a running theme of debian built Angstrom not running
Dec 13 09:20:46 <XorA> I wonder if debians gcc is fscked
Dec 13 09:21:11 <ade|desk> how does that work ?
Dec 13 09:21:32 <ade|desk> the toolchain we build should be the same for all once built?
Dec 13 09:21:44 <ade|desk> s/?/!
Dec 13 09:22:09 <XorA> ade|desk: gcc(host) misbuilds gcc-cross then the game is over :-)
Dec 13 09:22:36 <ade|desk> hmm 
Dec 13 09:23:08 * XorA wonders if he can get lrg to build one of Fedora
Dec 13 09:23:27 <ade|desk> i could xen up another distro i guess
Dec 13 09:24:05 <ade|desk> i haven't used redhat stuff since 6.0 so that could be fun
Dec 13 09:24:08 <XorA> ade|desk: I certainly have 2 zaurus running ANgstrom now
Dec 13 09:24:58 <ade|desk> XorA: its just weird how the binaries work most of the time, its just a few segfaults here and there
Dec 13 09:25:16 <XorA> ade|desk: what model of Z are you running?
Dec 13 09:25:28 <ade|desk> akita does not get a 16 byte header at the start of the jffs2 img
Dec 13 09:25:38 <ade|desk> but once added its fine
Dec 13 09:25:58 <ade|desk> bootup segfaults a lot
Dec 13 09:26:34 <ade|desk> but i think thats a bunch of races happening as if you do the same stuff later, slowly, they work
Dec 13 09:26:52 <ade|desk> Xfbdev is just fookd
Dec 13 09:27:44 <ade|desk> first problems are with finding a touchscreen, udev not linking a /dev/input/touchscreen0 for example
Dec 13 09:28:08 <ade|desk> but thats due to the segfault at start up
Dec 13 09:28:48 <XorA> ade|desk: if you had been spitz or c7x0 I was gonna offer you a kernel swap to see if the problem is in kernel or in rootfs
Dec 13 09:28:58 <ade|desk> should really have more vts in init too that can be changed to without mapping the keyb, as that segfaults too
Dec 13 09:29:36 <XorA> ade|desk: edit the initscript to call loadkeys twice then rebuild your rootfs
Dec 13 09:30:27 * XorA wonders about flashing koens kernel on his c860 to see if it is kernel or glibc problem
Dec 13 09:32:46 <goxboxlive> koen: Did you take a look at the reboot stuff i mention?
Dec 13 09:35:47 <goxboxlive> Also take a look at this screenshot-. Gpe is realy starting to look good on universal, right? http://handhelds.org/scap/port.23886.png
Dec 13 09:38:02 <ade|desk> XorA: i tried calling it twice on friday, but had no joy
Dec 13 09:38:15 <goxboxlive> add|desk: We have the same problem with htc universal (dev/input/touchscreen0)
Dec 13 09:38:50 <ade|desk> goxboxlive: thats a lovely scap
Dec 13 09:39:39 <goxboxlive> yes, with some tweak here and there GPE is really looking good. 
Dec 13 11:33:01 <ade|desk> XorA: installing fed cor 4 atm
Dec 13 11:33:07 <ade|desk> i think
Dec 13 11:33:38 <ade|desk> rpmstrarp is hopefully doing its thing :)
Dec 13 11:33:55 <XorA> ade|desk: all sounds ike voodoo to me
Dec 13 11:34:46 <ade|desk> well my tmp dir is filling up with rpm crap , so thats a start
Dec 13 14:02:31 <XorA> yo koen 
Dec 13 14:05:14 <koen> hey XorA 
Dec 13 14:05:22 <XorA> koen: I added that patch to my firefox build, still no improvement
Dec 13 14:07:37 <koen> same here
Dec 13 14:12:04 <XorA> gcc-cross fucks up its .la files :-(
Dec 13 14:35:26 <Genesis> i've a working gnash , if someone want to test :)
Dec 13 14:35:49 * XorA gnashes Genesis 
Dec 13 14:35:59 <XorA> ~dict gnash
Dec 13 14:36:31 <koen> Genesis: add it to the bugtracker
Dec 13 14:36:41 * koen still needs to test antigrain
Dec 13 14:39:27 <Genesis> no pb
Dec 13 14:39:27 <Genesis> :)
Dec 13 14:39:45 <Genesis> koen, : my agg recipe is pretty fine , i need some help to finish it
Dec 13 14:39:54 <Genesis> i add to the bugtrack 
Dec 13 15:13:46 <Genesis> koen, bug 1464
Dec 13 15:13:51 <Genesis> !oe_bug 1464
Dec 13 15:14:08 <Genesis> agg work fine on my little mx21
Dec 13 16:13:54 <XorA> koen: terrier, is now fully Angstrom compatible :-)
Dec 13 16:14:25 <XorA> koen: if I get time this week, I shall try and do some tests on c7x0 to see if it is a kernel or glibc problem causing the segfaults
Dec 13 16:28:05 <koen> XorA|gone: thanks
Dec 13 16:30:20 <koen> XorA|gone: see http://handhelds.org/hypermail/kernel-discuss/24/2418.html
Dec 13 19:09:43 <XorA|gone> koen: that zlib change was RP
Dec 13 19:24:10 <koen> XorA|gone: right, but it might be a toolchain issue that causes gcc to make a booboo so loadkeys fails
Dec 13 20:32:43 <XorA|gone> koen: although I could have sworn I tried terrier on Angstrom and it failed, and that is ext3
Dec 13 20:35:21 <koen> ok, that rules one problem out
Dec 13 20:35:33 <koen> I remember getting the same with root-on-sd
Dec 13 20:42:50 <XorA|gone> koen: although I suppose it could all be manisestations of the same bug
Dec 13 20:45:10 <koen> yeah
Dec 13 20:45:16 <koen> gcc heisenbugs
Dec 13 20:48:11 <XorA|gone> or freaky debian bad QA patches :-)
Dec 13 20:48:27 <koen> or that :)
Dec 13 20:48:45 <koen> I always wanted OE to build it's on gcc that builds gcc-cross
Dec 13 20:49:04 <koen> but that's just my LFS past crying out
Dec 13 20:50:30 <XorA|gone> koen: does gcc not do the 3 stage build anymore?
Dec 13 20:50:41 <koen> no idea
Dec 13 20:51:24 <koen> drat, I'm still one L lens short of free support from Canon
Dec 13 20:52:09 <XorA|gone> :-D
Dec 13 20:53:01 * koen applies anyway
Dec 13 20:58:28 * XorA|gone disapears for the night
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