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Jan 25 08:43:58 <basiliscus> hi
Jan 25 09:44:01 <rob_w> so how do i make sure that i only build non eabi things .. do i need now to switch to angstrom-2007.1-oabi 
Jan 25 09:44:52 <XorA> rob_w: yes
Jan 25 09:47:08 <rob_w> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables  i get with oabi .. do i need  to build my tmp totatlly ?
Jan 25 09:53:15 <XorA> probably
Jan 25 09:53:29 <XorA> distro change normally neccessitates that as distro is built into names
Jan 25 09:58:09 <rob_w> hmm i hope the binary`s are compatible to my existing rootfs which i created 1 month ago
Jan 25 10:19:12 <XorA> rob_w: Ive done ipkg upgrade on my machine for 6 months or so now
Jan 25 10:27:41 <rob_w> what i still dont know is ,. if i keep mtn updating ..how do i bitbake gpe-image only the changed things ?? or will i always have to delete tmp/
Jan 25 10:35:51 <XorA> rob_w: it will build only the changed stuff
Jan 25 10:36:07 <XorA> bitbake gpe-image will always update
Jan 25 10:36:17 <XorA> btw its angstrom-gpe-image for angstrom
Jan 25 10:37:02 <rob_w> oh
Jan 25 10:42:29 <rob_w> thanks
Jan 25 11:22:35 <lardman> morning all
Jan 25 11:24:28 <basiliscus> XorA: I've successifully build and flashed angstrom-gpe-image on h5000
Jan 25 11:24:47 <XorA> basiliscus: YAY
Jan 25 11:24:52 <basiliscus> but I discovered that some important kernel modules are missing...
Jan 25 11:25:22 <basiliscus> it seems that a proper defconf for kernel is not selected for h5000
Jan 25 11:25:52 <XorA> basiliscus: not all modules built end up on image
Jan 25 11:26:16 <XorA> basiliscus: in conf/machine/h5000.conf look at the line MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS
Jan 25 11:27:28 <basiliscus> XorA: ok! I'll put there all the necessary 
Jan 25 11:27:52 <XorA> basiliscus: double check in tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/kernel-module* that the .ipk for those modules exists
Jan 25 11:28:03 <XorA> basiliscus: if all is fine then rebuild your image
Jan 25 11:28:39 <XorA> basiliscus: and if they are truly essential file a bug with a patch toi h5000.conf
Jan 25 11:28:52 <basiliscus> XorA: let me understand... ipk for modules are build IF specified in h5000.conf right ?
Jan 25 11:29:26 <basiliscus> XorA: or, alternatively, are always build and included in image only iF specified ?
Jan 25 11:29:29 <XorA> basiliscus: a ipk will be created for every module build during kernel build. That line chooses modules that get installed in image
Jan 25 11:29:46 <basiliscus> XorA: ok, perfect, thanks
Jan 25 11:30:37 <basiliscus> XorA: yeah, the missing modules are VERY useful, even display doesn't work!! I can only access trhough serial
Jan 25 11:30:56 * XorA chuckles
Jan 25 11:48:24 <basiliscus> XorA: I still have a doubt, does MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS create a proper kernel defconfig or just it should be created manually ? 
Jan 25 12:26:43 <XorA> basiliscus: defconfig defines what gets built, MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS what gets installed
Jan 25 12:38:53 <rob_w> its all screwed .. seems i need to redo my image in a whole 
Jan 25 16:08:37 <mr_nice> hi all
Jan 25 16:10:59 <mr_nice> how must a switches driver (for simpads) be to be compatible with angstrom? 
Jan 25 16:38:42 <mickeyl> it needs to use the input system
Jan 25 16:38:55 <mickeyl> and report its switches either as key events or (if more approriate) as switches events
Jan 25 16:39:02 <mickeyl> see new additions to input subsystem
Jan 25 16:51:20 <mr_nice> ah ok - then i will impelment them as keyboard dev and a micedev how to map the poweron button?
Jan 25 16:52:27 <mr_nice> I will also have a look to the switches evens first
Jan 25 16:52:33 <mr_nice> thx
Jan 25 16:53:20 <mickeyl> the poweron is supposed to be a switches event as well
Jan 25 16:53:29 <mickeyl> or a button or whatever
Jan 25 16:53:37 <mickeyl> i dunno the input subsystem terminology offhand :)
Jan 25 16:53:43 <mickeyl> if in doubt, ask RP
Jan 25 16:53:51 <mickeyl> for how he did it on c7x0 and cxx00
Jan 25 16:54:11 <mickeyl> those could be considered "reference implementation" as he worked pretty close with the input subsystem maintainer
Jan 25 16:54:21 <mickeyl> some features were added upon our request :)
Jan 25 16:54:23 <mr_nice> ah I will look ath that code then
Jan 25 16:54:55 <mr_nice> I plan also to integrate my keys2thumbscript in that driver
Jan 25 16:55:00 <mr_nice> mom
Jan 25 16:58:20 <mr_nice> http://thumbscript.com for the info aobut what tumbscript is and here is my code for a userspace driver (http://shortlink.org/1199) 
Jan 25 16:59:58 <mr_nice> I will add it into the simpad switches driver. so you can easily change between thumbscript input (pressing enter 5x) and normal key input (pressing a free thumbscript key combination)
Jan 25 17:00:35 <mickeyl> cool idea
Jan 25 17:00:37 <mr_nice> do you think it is legal to integrate it in the driver or should i better let it be a userspace driver and there will be a clean kernel driver?
Jan 25 17:01:30 <hrw> userspace rather
Jan 25 17:01:37 <mickeyl> that's a matter of taste. IMO stuff like this can just work fine in userland, but purists may find it more suitable in kernel
Jan 25 17:02:11 <mr_nice> I have written thumbscript.com but i got no answer about if it is legal to copy the imput idea
Jan 25 17:02:18 <mickeyl> userland makes it better portable to other systems
Jan 25 17:02:41 <mr_nice> yes thats right
Jan 25 17:03:19 <mr_nice> but you have to figute out the right imput device 
Jan 25 17:03:29 <mr_nice> atm it is hardcoded
Jan 25 17:04:43 <mickeyl> use getenv
Jan 25 17:04:57 <mickeyl> or if you want something more fancy, use a configure file
Jan 25 17:04:58 <mickeyl> getenv is just one call though
Jan 25 17:05:10 <mickeyl> and if there is no setting, use the first input device
Jan 25 17:05:26 <mickeyl> (something like that)
Jan 25 17:05:26 <mr_nice> ok i will give it a try
Jan 25 17:05:32 <mickeyl> ya,cool
Jan 25 17:11:53 <goxboxlive> hrw: Are you there?
Jan 25 17:13:03 <hrw> yes
Jan 25 17:13:39 <goxboxlive> We have a keymap file for adding to the /etc diectory. Suddenly it isent aplied, even though keymap is installed. Do you know why?
Jan 25 17:14:13 <hrw> keymap is /etc/keymap-2.6.map and you have 'keymaps' package installed?
Jan 25 17:15:03 <goxboxlive> Yes keymaps package is being installed, but the  /etc/keymap-2.6.map file isent .
Jan 25 17:15:24 <goxboxlive> Even though it is correct applied in oe.dev.
Jan 25 17:15:36 <goxboxlive> http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages/keymaps/files/htcuniversal
Jan 25 17:17:28 <hrw> mooment
Jan 25 17:19:26 <hrw> goxboxlive: pull, build keymaps
Jan 25 17:19:37 <goxboxlive> hold on, i think thx i'll try
Jan 25 17:21:38 <hrw> there was a typo
Jan 25 17:21:41 <hrw> htuniversal
Jan 25 17:22:11 <goxboxlive> ok, thanks 
Jan 25 17:23:17 <goxboxlive> yes, now it is aplied. 
Jan 25 18:05:15 <goxboxlive> hrw: This two modules, where do they belong, do they belong in machine.conf or task-base? "kernel-module-sir-dev" and "kernel-module-irtty-sir"
Jan 25 18:06:51 <hrw> what for you need them?
Jan 25 18:07:32 <goxboxlive> If i dont have them installed iratach wouldnt work on universal
Jan 25 18:12:45 <hrw> I would add them to machine but task-base is even better
Jan 25 18:12:48 <hrw> we need to clean task-base soon
Jan 25 18:13:01 <goxboxlive> ok, once again thanks
Jan 25 18:14:34 <rob_w> today i was missing libopenobex1 in a angstrom-gpe-image 
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