**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 23 02:59:57 2007 Apr 23 07:26:30 anyone know where to get a 2.6.20.6 kernel? I did an update a couple of days ago and all my modules were updated... Apr 23 07:28:12 kernel.org? Apr 23 07:30:32 (which is my way of saying "too little info to give a helpfull statement") Apr 23 07:30:54 koen: sorry :O) Apr 23 07:31:17 I should have said - I have a spitz running angstrom unstable Apr 23 07:33:01 have you checked the images dir? Apr 23 07:33:14 yea - only stuff dated 0401 Apr 23 07:33:21 sure? Apr 23 07:33:26 * koen looks at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/20070422/ Apr 23 07:33:28 which seems to be 2.6.20 not 2.6.20.6 Apr 23 07:33:47 oh boy - hadnt checked since last night Apr 23 07:33:53 * prh blushes Apr 23 07:34:09 :) Apr 23 07:34:29 I hate it when that happens... :O) Apr 23 08:53:23 so whats new in Angstrom world Apr 23 08:56:24 anyone know of an online log of this channel? Apr 23 08:56:51 .msg nslu2-log help Apr 23 08:57:13 XorA: lots of bugs :) Apr 23 09:20:47 koen: their features Apr 23 09:21:17 ~lart me for not speeling Apr 23 09:23:10 <_law_> http://pastebin.ca/453930 any ideas what package contains libquickstream? Apr 23 09:23:46 <_law_> ok its linphone Apr 23 09:37:27 anyone know what the difference between Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070422-spitz.rootfs.jffs2 and Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070422-spitz.rootfs.summary.jffs2 Apr 23 09:37:52 ie what the summary means Apr 23 09:39:12 prh: faster mount time, wasted disk space Apr 23 09:39:36 XorA: ahh. cheers. Apr 23 10:09:02 bugger I forgot collie cant do EABI Apr 23 10:09:17 and bitbake 1.8.0 certainly has a dependency bug :-( Apr 23 10:14:29 XorA: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/collie/20070422/ :) Apr 23 10:14:43 the oabi feed should have the X packages Apr 23 10:29:17 * XorA starts with bitbake shasum Apr 23 10:29:23 bitbake pax-utils-native Apr 23 10:45:22 bah - tried updating my spirtz (3100) by using the flash image... made no change at all... repeatedly and 'sucessfully'... then realised root was on hda1. doh! Apr 23 10:50:39 :-D Apr 23 10:51:38 how does one change the boot flags on an OE kernel - is it a recompile job? Apr 23 10:51:52 yes, since they are in the kernel Apr 23 10:52:50 one day I shall bother to put kexec minimal bootstrap in flash on spitz and kexec to realkernel in hda1 Apr 23 10:54:41 interesting: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23403&pid=159546&st=45&#entry159546 Apr 23 10:58:19 will you reply? Apr 23 10:59:41 not much to reply Apr 23 10:59:54 unless "told you so" is helpfull Apr 23 11:00:10 yey - got X again Apr 23 11:00:23 or maybe "that is matchbox-panel" Apr 23 11:00:36 :O) Apr 23 11:10:15 hmm just reinstalled on the spitz from the latest x11-image-test...22... and x calibrates, new user... session starts but the pointer is rotated 90 clockwise... flip the lid and the screen spins... and the pointer is still confused - any ideas? Apr 23 11:11:06 * XorA has no pointer Apr 23 11:11:13 touchscreen Apr 23 11:11:20 there shouldn't be any pointer :) Apr 23 11:12:07 when you move your stylus around the ts, the x mouse cursor (pointer?) moves around the screen. Apr 23 11:12:48 ah, you mean the coordinates are screwed up Apr 23 11:13:04 yea - rotated Apr 23 11:22:16 anyone know if freenx has been ported to the Z? Apr 23 11:22:34 you mean 'compiled', right? Apr 23 11:22:46 not that I know off, but it shouldn't be too hard Apr 23 11:56:23 koen - thats what I figured Apr 23 11:56:37 anyone any idea about getting my touchscreen working right? Apr 23 11:57:38 * prh tried the windows approach - reboot... and then reinstall Apr 23 12:04:53 prh: rm /etc/pointercal Apr 23 12:06:34 i also have a mouse-pointer Apr 23 12:06:37 kinda annoying Apr 23 12:11:28 everyone has mouse pointer. need to look wht angstrom-x11-image doesn't do comparing to gpe-image. Apr 23 12:13:48 redone the calibration and it is still confused. I think the touchscreen rotation is out of sync with the screen rotation. Apr 23 12:16:33 prh: are you booting first time in PDA mode Apr 23 12:16:34 ? Apr 23 12:17:09 psokolovsky: I added a new mb-wm that should take care of cursor hiding Apr 23 12:17:21 psokolovsky: could be a missing xcursor-transparent theme Apr 23 12:17:30 psokolovsky: I dont have a mouse pointer Apr 23 12:18:03 koen: ok, nice! will try it soon Apr 23 12:18:10 do we have some GUI for network-manager in Angstrom? Apr 23 12:18:21 nm-applet? Apr 23 12:18:25 hrw: yes, nm-applet in network manager package Apr 23 12:18:39 XorA: on what machine? I have cursor on h4000 & hx4700, I'm sure gpe-image didn't have one at least on h4000. Apr 23 12:18:54 psokolovsky: spitz Apr 23 12:19:03 ok Apr 23 12:20:11 its mb-panel1 applet or normal systray? Apr 23 12:20:20 hrw: normal systray Apr 23 12:22:06 ok Apr 23 12:30:34 hmm my build of networkmanager contain only NetworkManager binary Apr 23 12:31:52 XorA: no - in open / keybard / langscape mode Apr 23 12:43:10 * prh reinstalls... Apr 23 12:43:52 * hrw reinstalled today Apr 23 12:44:02 again to pokylinux Apr 23 12:44:27 except that when I do first boot in 'pda' mode - the calibration screen comes up as a landscape image in portrait screen mode... so I see "Touch the crosshairs to|" "calibbrate the screen"... and the right hand calibration points are not visible... Apr 23 12:47:29 bah done it in landscape and it's wrong again Apr 23 12:47:35 XorA: An intel engineer said you could to 640x480 overlay in SRAM buy putting YU in sram and V in ram Apr 23 12:49:20 could someone with a spitz tell me what should be in ts.conf and show me their pointercal? Apr 23 12:52:02 koen: that is in the the datasheet Apr 23 12:52:14 heh Apr 23 12:52:31 koen: but for everyday use you want one of r/g/b in sram for blit speed :-) Apr 23 12:52:36 koen: so its a tossup Apr 23 12:53:11 prh: -40 -8694 33707364 12028 -1 -1996336 65536 Apr 23 12:53:36 module_raw input grab_events=0 Apr 23 12:53:42 module pthres pmin=1 Apr 23 12:53:42 module variance delta=30 Apr 23 12:53:42 module dejitter delta=100 Apr 23 12:53:42 module linear Apr 23 12:53:49 prh: first bit is pointercal Apr 23 12:54:28 XorA: ta Apr 23 12:56:02 * prh reboots with XorA's pointercal :O) Apr 23 12:57:27 yey - XorA your calibrartion is pretty close to mine Apr 23 12:57:53 anyone know what the program is called that creates the pointercal file? there seems to be a problem with it on the current release Apr 23 12:58:10 xtscal Apr 23 12:58:27 cool - should see how it got broke Apr 23 12:58:32 prh: try ts_calibrate the fbdev version and see if that works Apr 23 12:59:07 does the Angstrom splash screen rotate fbdev by any chance? Apr 23 13:01:10 ts_calibrate does it in portrait Apr 23 13:01:30 (hmm the default installs don't have iwconfig (wireless-tools) Apr 23 13:03:50 XorA: can you add wifi to zaurus features? Apr 23 13:04:21 ts_calibrate works ok Apr 23 13:07:34 where does intltoolize come from Apr 23 13:08:27 remove -ize and you have your answer Apr 23 13:13:35 didnt realise that was a package, I was looking in autofubar* Apr 23 13:19:17 and off collie build goes again Apr 23 13:20:11 is it possible to boot the spitz (3100) with a wireless NFS root? (I want to repartition the microdrive and cant while it's mounted...) Apr 23 13:20:42 not sure if I can since I can't set a kernel cmdline Apr 23 13:20:56 try booting a new kernel with kexec Apr 23 13:21:13 may be quicker to take the Z apart :O) Apr 23 13:45:31 prh: boot into sharp kernel and repartition from there, some magic keypresses Apr 23 13:46:05 D+something + reset Apr 23 13:47:02 thats a point. in the oe downloads dir for spitx - there are .jffs versions - but they cannot be used with the stock kernels (since the stock kernels boot from hda1) - so what is the point of building / providing them - is it not just confusing? Apr 23 13:47:10 DM ? Apr 23 13:47:37 prh: maybe, I did it once when I first bought spitz and never again Apr 23 13:48:16 ~lart collie for trying to build hostap Apr 23 13:48:45 D+B - D+M is for the diags Apr 23 13:54:41 XorA: hostap-modules? Apr 23 13:55:27 hrw|afk: I missed you needed MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION Apr 23 13:55:53 I will push change to 2.6 by default Apr 23 14:09:58 has anyone made angstrom work with the old H3600 ipaq? Apr 23 14:11:45 gremlin Apr 23 15:05:29 XorA: cheers for the D+B reminder. Apr 23 15:24:59 If I change /etc/keymap.2.6.map - how do I get the kernel to reload it (other than reboot ;O) Apr 23 15:26:14 with the 'loadkeys /etc/keymap.2.6.map' command iirc Apr 23 15:27:11 ooh -ta Apr 23 15:27:33 anybody any luck with lirc / h2200? Apr 23 15:28:18 grr it still does that - if I chvt 1 and do stuff in the console, then use Fn-right to go back to the X vt, quite often X will reset and I'll have to login and load all my progs again. Anyone seen that or know what causes it? Apr 23 15:52:30 angstrom inherits insane.bbclass by default, right? Apr 23 15:52:40 It is possible to deactivate it? Apr 23 15:53:53 no, fix the bug instead Apr 23 15:57:12 I don't always feel like doing that Apr 23 15:57:22 Neither am I always capable of doing it. Apr 23 17:24:30 koen: collie testers demands kexec stuff in feed ;D Apr 23 17:28:20 do you want to upload it yourself, or do you want me to do it? Apr 23 17:28:46 I lack oabi build Apr 23 17:29:05 koen: ssh key to send to get r/w to feeds/images? Apr 23 17:29:38 yes Apr 23 17:33:04 any more requests for oabi stuff? Apr 23 17:33:49 mc picocom vim Apr 23 17:54:43 koen - I see freenx has been attempted and is in "nonworking" - Can you remember why? Apr 23 17:55:03 or can you tell me where to look to see why... Apr 23 17:56:17 I ran out of time Apr 23 17:56:26 in fact - what _is_ packages/nonworking - is there a particular meaning other than "packages that have been built but do not work"? Apr 23 17:56:29 ahh Apr 23 17:57:04 an nxclient would make the Z truley fab as a remote support device Apr 23 17:57:07 "stuff that does not work, but can be fixed up" Apr 23 17:57:34 cool Apr 23 17:57:47 is it something you are likely to get back to soon? Apr 23 17:57:53 not really Apr 23 17:58:13 ok - I'll see if I can get some time to play with it next week Apr 23 17:58:36 freenx itself seems to be a little stagnant Apr 23 17:59:26 hrw: mc, picocom, vim and kexec-tools uploaded Apr 23 17:59:35 thx Apr 23 18:27:28 morning Apr 24 00:12:56 hello **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 24 02:59:56 2007