**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 15 02:59:58 2007
May 15 07:48:39 <XorA> morning
May 15 07:56:22 <koen> hey XorA 
May 15 08:59:45 <ade|desk> anyone actively using uclibc 0.9.29 
May 15 09:01:02 <ade|desk> http://www.nabble.com/0.9.29%2C-somethings-wrong-with-linker-or-threading-tf3756090.html anybody had this problem ?
May 15 09:28:44 <hrw> morning
May 15 10:41:03 <Laibsch> xjqian: I have run into some compilation trouble and will be away until Sunday.  It is unlikely I can provide you with an image before next week
May 15 10:45:45 <koen> ade|desk: I only briefly chrooted into an uclibc rootfs
May 15 10:45:50 <koen> ade|desk: busybox worked
May 15 11:01:24 <ade|desk> koen: thats good to hear
May 15 11:02:59 <ade|desk> i will start on 0.9.29 bashing next monday.  sadly I have real work this week having to spend money
May 15 12:22:20 <Furre> does the Zaurus support SiRF 3 chipset on GPS' ?
May 15 12:23:28 <hrw> Furre: zaurus support any gps which you can connect and have software for it
May 15 12:23:40 <Furre> no it does not o.o
May 15 12:23:50 <Furre> atleast not on the compabilitylist :X
May 15 12:26:48 <koen>  compatibility list?
May 15 12:28:02 <koen> sounds like an OESF-ism
May 15 12:28:10 <Furre> http://qpegps.sourceforge.net/gps_units.html
May 15 12:28:31 <Furre> or that list is just for qpegps?
May 15 12:28:47 <koen> heh
May 15 12:28:53 <koen> qpegps == crap
May 15 12:29:31 <Furre> well, the one gps not workingt here said not to be transmitting the right thing, are you sure it works for the zaurus at all? :x
May 15 12:31:50 <Furre> was also wondering if USB-GPS devices work with it?
May 15 12:32:05 <Furre> they are like half the price :x
May 15 12:37:19 <NAbyss> Furre: qpegps is quite buggy
May 15 12:37:26 <NAbyss> Furre: I use gpsdrive with my Z and usb gps unit
May 15 12:38:17 <NAbyss> Which works well, even if the user interface is shithouse.
May 15 12:38:35 <Furre> what gps unit is it you have? or will most usb ones work?
May 15 12:39:00 <NAbyss> I've got one of the hancom sirf3 units.. anything that gives a USB serial tty and talks NMEA0183 will work with gpsd
May 15 12:39:10 <NAbyss> er, haicom
May 15 12:40:05 <NAbyss> http://www.haicom.com.tw/gps204III_USB.shtml
May 15 12:42:31 <Furre> http://i20.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/9a/92/6b66_1_b.JPG  http://i23.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/9a/96/5183_1_b.JPG
May 15 12:42:36 <Furre> think any of those two will work?
May 15 12:42:56 <NAbyss> Furre: As I said.. if it talks NMEA0183 over a standard USB serial port, it'll work with gpsd.
May 15 12:43:25 <NAbyss> Product images don't exactly give technical details. Go do some research.
May 15 12:43:58 <koen> you want to see if it works with gpsd
May 15 13:08:33 <Furre> ordered one for $36 now atleast, not too bad if its not compatible atleast :x
May 15 13:13:41 <Furre> Also, is there a place to purchase the USB-host cables?
May 15 13:15:18 <XorA> Furre: I got a nice adapter from maplin
May 15 13:15:19 <hrw> trisoft.de
May 15 13:16:04 <Furre> isnt it a starndard connector?
May 15 13:16:11 * XorA rebuilds neo image with a working version of bitbake
May 15 13:16:14 <XorA> Furre: yes
May 15 13:16:21 <XorA> Furre: usb2go
May 15 13:16:38 <NAbyss> Furre: Standard, but uncommon
May 15 13:16:40 <hrw> and cable can be bought in trisoft.de for 10 eur
May 15 13:16:54 <Furre> 10 euro for a little cable?! o_o
May 15 13:17:03 <Zuse_> you can create it by yourself
May 15 13:17:07 <XorA> NAbyss: common but mislabled in the UK
May 15 13:17:22 <NAbyss> XorA: Really? I've found the usb mini A connectors hard to find in .au
May 15 13:17:40 <Furre> mini A didnt look like the one needed thought o.o
May 15 13:17:40 <XorA> maplin.co.uk sell one, my friend found it be accident
May 15 13:18:20 <NAbyss> Furre: mini A to normal B socket is the type required, iirc
May 15 13:20:36 <Furre> http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/ssjxbox_psp004.jpg <- is that left one the correct one? cause on Conics I thought it looked slightly different
May 15 13:21:43 <XorA> no thats a PSP client cable
May 15 13:21:58 <NAbyss> Furre: No, that's not it
May 15 13:22:05 <Furre> says its mini-A
May 15 13:22:10 <NAbyss> That's mini-B.
May 15 13:22:14 <Furre> and its not for the PSP only, I got the same connector to my camera :x
May 15 13:22:59 <Furre> so, people misslabel it?
May 15 13:23:38 <NAbyss> Correct
May 15 13:25:08 <NAbyss> http://www.heilind.com/products/molex/usbonthego.asp - the bottom one is mini A
May 15 13:25:21 <XorA> http://www.lindy.com/uk/productfolder/03/31/31627/index.php (is for if the device you have has a B socket)
May 15 13:26:17 <XorA> but you also get them with inline A sockets so even devices with hardwired cables work
May 15 13:26:22 <NAbyss> http://www.molex.com/cmc_upload/0/000/-11/461/otg_ftb2.gif
May 15 13:28:09 <XorA> http://www.yoss.de/cgi-bin/yosst.htm?shop=10 ( is the type with inline A socket)
May 15 13:28:15 <XorA> that is more useful
May 15 15:02:47 <mccarthy_> koen, is there any (simple) way to remove the dependencies on dbg packages that it seems a bunch of the ipks from my angstrom image have?
May 15 15:03:56 <koen> fix the packaging of the offending packages I guess
May 15 15:04:16 <mccarthy_> (I keep filling up my flash when I upgrade)
May 15 15:04:26 <mccarthy_> hmm
May 15 15:05:01 <mccarthy_> it seems like a bunch of the ipks have this dependency (is it a default during development?)
May 15 15:05:02 <koen> e.g:
May 15 15:05:07 <koen> Package: libgoffice-0-plugin-plot-barcol
May 15 15:05:08 <koen> Depends: libgoffice-0-dbg
May 15 15:05:23 <koen> so libgoffice-0-dbg contains a file it shouldn't have
May 15 15:06:02 <mccarthy_> ok, but wouldn't I have to build my own repository to do these fixes? (right now I am getting my ipks from the angstrom unstable feed)
May 15 15:06:10 <koen> Package: xfwm4-theme-opta
May 15 15:06:11 <koen> Depends: xfwm4-dbg
May 15 15:06:44 <koen> libgoffice* and xfwm4-theme* seem to be the only packages depending on a dbg package
May 15 15:06:49 <mccarthy_> I have pango, libz, libxrender, libxrandr libxml2 libxft libxinerama, etc ...
May 15 15:06:58 <koen> so you'd only have fix libgoffice
May 15 15:07:16 <mccarthy_> (I have more like 20)
May 15 15:07:37 <koen> yes, libgoffice-dbg pull in all dependencies needed for debugging
May 15 15:08:00 <mccarthy_> koen, oh. I get it.
May 15 15:08:28 <mccarthy_> damn it looks like filling up this time may have borked things:
May 15 15:08:37 <mccarthy_> -sh: ipkg: Permission denied                                                    
May 15 15:08:37 <mccarthy_> Bus error 
May 15 15:14:45 * koen takes a look at goffice
May 15 15:16:07 <koen> D'oh!
May 15 15:16:22 <koen> the day I put new plants and floweres outside it starts hailing
May 15 15:16:31 * koen shakes fist at weather
May 15 15:18:15 <mccarthy_> Believe it or not, Pittsburgh has been beautiful for almost a full week in a row (I think it is a record) ;)
May 15 15:21:46 <mccarthy_> join #handhelds
May 15 15:21:50 <mccarthy_> oops ;)
May 15 15:23:19 <koen> mccarthy_: the bug has been fixed in OE, uploading fixed packages
May 15 15:23:58 <mccarthy_> koen, cool. Thanks. I am thinking of building a whole new test image if I can get a good defconfig frommmp or bd2 (for the h5000)
May 15 17:44:33 <dcordes> hello
May 15 17:46:37 <dcordes> When my sl-c1000 backlight turns off on idle, I can't make it turn on again.
May 15 17:46:41 <dcordes> How can I fix this?
May 15 17:56:05 <Furre> Dont got any Z yet so cant help, but if you wait a bit longer maybe osmeone else will come look at the channel soon :)
May 15 18:32:36 <itsonlyme> Could I get some help un-bricking my zaurus C1000? 
May 15 18:35:51 <dcordes> itsonlyme, what is un-bricking?
May 15 18:36:23 <Furre> hmm, if its bricker it shouldnt be able to get unbricked, the definition of bricked should be dead o.o
May 15 18:37:07 <itsonlyme> Ok  :)  Its not quite bricked.
May 15 18:37:28 <dcordes> itsonlyme, what's your problem?
May 15 18:38:43 <itsonlyme> I'm tried to do a nand restore with the trisoft backup .  It stalls during the update and never finishes.  Now I can only use the fn - d - m screen... 
May 15 18:39:23 <hvontres|poodle> itsonlyme: you might want to check your download to make sure it's not corrupted.
May 15 18:39:51 <dcordes> itsonlyme, trisoft backup? Is that reliable?
May 15 18:39:56 <itsonlyme> I have tried re-downloading the .dbk file twice.  and I have tried several sd cards.
May 15 18:40:28 <dcordes> you could try a cf card
May 15 18:40:31 <itsonlyme> Is there a better one?
May 15 18:40:40 <dcordes> i don't know
May 15 18:41:36 <itsonlyme> the oesf forums suggest the trisoft backup.   Thanks anyway.
May 15 18:43:12 <dcordes> itsonlyme, you could try downloading it from a different website or putting it on a cf card
May 15 18:45:05 <itsonlyme> I'll try both, thanks.
May 15 18:53:40 <dcordes> sund comes only from the left phone when I plug stereo earphones in. The right on is giving me a little bit sound when I enabled Speaker in alsamixer which is odd. I think I tried all alsamixer settings and don't know what to do. Any idea?
May 15 21:35:37 <XorA> yo koen
May 15 22:35:26 <CoreDump|home> hi
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