**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 16 02:59:57 2007 May 16 06:28:58 USB host cables for $10 with shipping is cheap right? May 16 06:29:10 for an sl-6000? May 16 06:29:35 I paid $5 for mine but I bought it from the store May 16 06:30:13 well, this was $4 and $6 for shipping so 10 in total, the others Ive found have charged $13 for just the cable :x May 16 06:30:58 yeah I kinda lucked out, I live in Korea and the company that used that cable for one of their mp3 players happened to have a store downtown May 16 06:31:25 ah :) May 16 06:31:49 well, no cables like this are sold here so I have to order them from other countries :/ May 16 06:32:27 it was a tough cable to find, I wish they had used somthing else, or heaven forbid built a port into the Z May 16 06:33:26 actually, its a great cable, its just that its not used alot, the port on the Z should support both mini A and mini B, when using mini B (found on most cameras etc) it should act like an external harddrive, and when using the mini A, it works as a USB-host May 16 06:33:55 think the connector on the Z is called "USB On-The-Go" so it can be used with two different kinds of use :) May 16 06:34:12 interesting, I didn't know that May 16 06:34:52 does the tosa support that or is it a feature of the 3000 series May 16 06:35:00 well, I cant say if its true or not since my Z havnt arrived yet, but thats what I found when searching for mini A atleast, thats the only use the cable has, and only some MP3 players appears to have it, that can like, download photos from cameras directly without connecting to a computer first etc :) May 16 06:35:21 :) May 16 06:35:35 but all mini A connectors (USB-OTG) atleast is said to have that feature, and I dont think sharp want to violate it ^^ May 16 06:47:32 * Furre leaves for school :/ May 16 07:13:03 lispbot May 16 07:13:06 hmm May 16 07:13:35 is there a pasteboard here? May 16 07:14:33 not to worry May 16 07:58:27 when installing a new kernel, is there an easy way to do it on the Z so that I don't have to reflash every time? May 16 08:15:30 AsLan^, it may be possible using /dev/mtdblock1 (assuming the flash blocks are not protected), but i would recommend against it for fear of wiping out the ANGEL bootloader... May 16 08:17:30 ah, okay, thank you May 16 08:19:10 I have a nand backup, will that allow me to recover if I did wipe out that bootloader May 16 08:22:35 well, i'm not familiar with all zaurus models, only the sl-5600/poodle... but i believe there are two copies of the bootloader on the zaurus, so yes, it should.. i haven't touched my zaurus in over a year -- just got it back from a friend and getting back into dev May 16 08:23:47 AsLan^: Fn+D+M will get you to a NAND restore that is stored in ROM on C3X00 devices May 16 08:23:59 just D+M is stored in NAND May 16 08:24:03 after ipkg-upgrade and ipkg install ipkg-utils, which is essential to get ipkg-link, the root directory on Tosa is full May 16 08:24:46 I suggest to include ipkg-utils in the base image, but I'm not sure which packages we can spare May 16 08:25:22 btw, this is for the Angstrom-X11-gpe image May 16 08:25:40 thanks guys :) May 16 08:27:10 ipkg-link is in ipkg-utils as well? May 16 08:27:12 hmmmm May 16 08:27:15 better remove it May 16 08:27:24 * koen does not want ipkg-link in the feeds May 16 08:27:37 Hi! May 16 08:27:43 koen: why again? May 16 08:27:57 why? May 16 08:27:59 it's broken May 16 08:28:07 try using it on e.g. linux-libc-headers May 16 08:28:09 *boom* May 16 08:28:39 koen: well, apparently, it's for app packages ;-) May 16 08:28:59 if you're putting apps on SD anyway, why not do root-on-SD? May 16 08:29:13 ping RP May 16 08:29:31 I tried to use it on my netbook, and I couldn't get it to work reliably May 16 08:29:32 koen: dunno, but different people may have their own answers ;-) May 16 08:30:27 which version of gcc do you use ? May 16 08:31:25 btw, how to set the tmp dir not on / in ipkg.conf? May 16 08:31:37 tmp dir for ipkg, i mean May 16 08:35:42 well, I guess I don't understand the ipkg in oe in general May 16 08:36:27 * koen proposes to move to apt May 16 08:37:22 isn't the original ipkg just a shell script, why rewrote it in python, which needs python-core/libpython --- space demanding and slowww May 16 08:37:49 it's in C May 16 08:38:10 and it's also the 'original ipkg' May 16 08:38:20 I can't help that pdaX is stuck 5 years in the past May 16 08:39:34 but, ipkg-utils is in written python? May 16 08:39:46 sorry, I didn't check closely May 16 08:40:52 ipkg-utils are python/shell May 16 08:42:45 busybox can have dpkg configured in May 16 08:43:02 why do we use ipk anyway? May 16 08:43:19 if it's the original ipkg, I guess i can put a tmpdir entry in ipkg.conf, can't I? May 16 08:43:39 xjqian: you can May 16 08:52:34 the biggest speed problem in ipkg stems from the local package lists being stored in flat, non-indexed files, isn't it? i've never taken a profiler to it of course.. May 16 08:55:35 i'm definitely not against using dpkg though May 16 08:55:49 I have a feeling that oe's ipkg, despite running on a newer kernel, is much slower than the "original" ipkg in other distro, maybe a hallucination May 16 08:56:07 koen: and what about all those megabytes of dpkg internal db's? May 16 08:57:24 and apt suite - isn't that partially a perl crap? or did they rewrote it completely in C now? May 16 08:57:25 Taekero, if what you said is true, is the sluggishness because oe's always generating tons of locale? May 16 08:57:48 psokolovsky_: thank you sooooo much May 16 08:58:06 psokolovsky_: for what? May 16 08:59:11 I had an argument with a debianite as year ago I got stuck in apt when it unistalled perl and left itself unable to execute, he swore blind apt has never had any perl code May 16 08:59:43 you just made my day by assuring me it did used to have perl code and therefore Im cleverer than a keysigned debian developer (which is not hard) :-) May 16 09:00:05 XorA: well, I'm not sure about apt-get itself, but some other tools for sure were using some perl modules May 16 09:01:37 xjqian, perhaps, depending on how many packages there are.. May 16 09:02:08 i'm stuck with oz at the moment, angstrom isn't quite mature for my poodle May 16 09:02:42 XorA: I'd like to replace the current ipkg with one statically linked to uclibc May 16 09:02:57 * koen thinks packagemanagers should always be statically linked May 16 09:04:08 Taekero: ah, that answers it. if you'd use angstrom, you didn't speculate on ipkg sluggishness, because it's not sluggish in angstrom May 16 09:04:32 ah. May 16 09:05:01 psokolovsky_: May 16 09:05:07 psokolovsky_: May 16 09:05:16 'psokolovsky_: ? May 16 09:05:31 And I'd bet it would be possible to make it 50-100% more fast yet, though I'd prefer to do that and at the same time add gzipped storage for Packages files, so it would stay on the same speed, but was more friendly for small flash May 16 09:05:53 xjqian: isntall latest ipkg/libipkg0 from feeds May 16 09:05:58 even if jffs2 is already compressed? May 16 09:06:10 psokolovsky_: is your patch applied? May 16 09:06:20 committed? I mean May 16 09:06:46 0.99.163-r4 is the fast one May 16 09:06:53 'ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade' May 16 09:07:03 of course, one can still call it slow, but it at least usable. and pretty usable, I may say - was using it myself good enough since then, and I'm conservative on giving grades ;-) May 16 09:07:09 available for almost all archs: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=ipkg May 16 09:07:31 koen: well, dunno. I more trust on using app-level features, where it makes sense ;-)) May 16 09:07:32 koen: want .164? May 16 09:07:51 what does .164 fix? May 16 09:08:09 besides being 'tradmarked' May 16 09:08:19 (no, that's not my typo) May 16 09:08:42 well that is a good reason to drop ipkg, s/ipkg/oepkg/ May 16 09:08:52 koen: so yeah, the biggest problem with ipkg imho is that it now should be icepkg %) May 16 09:09:46 weaselpkg May 16 09:09:56 lol May 16 09:11:42 Sorry, to ask again. Yesterday I start up to create a OE / bitbake environment. However, qemu-compiling fails due to the fact that I used gcc 4.1.2. Do you prefer a particular version of gcc to compile OE stuff ? May 16 09:12:00 'apt-get install gcc-3.4' May 16 09:13:27 koen: Thanks, it's installed already, just was unsure which version you prefer. *trys to remember how to switch the compiler* May 16 09:16:51 you don't need to switch compiler May 16 09:17:00 you only need a gcc-3.4 in $PATH May 16 09:17:12 there's a patch May 16 09:17:31 a patch that's wrong May 16 09:17:42 hmm, it worked for me May 16 09:18:59 AFAIK the gcc command is linked to the recent gcc version (in my case 4.1.2) any gcc commands in a script will use this version, or I'm wrong ? May 16 09:20:59 koen: as mentioned by Paul, how do I confirm that the binary locale generated by qemu is working May 16 09:21:10 I installed glibc-binary-localedata-zh-cn_2.5-r6_armv5te.ipk May 16 09:21:25 koen: .164 is before TM May 16 09:21:26 set LC_CTYPE and LANG in ~/.profile May 16 09:21:34 koen: and I do not remember what fixed May 16 09:22:22 installed a chinese font to /usr/share/fonts/truetype May 16 09:22:42 and I can confirm the menus show the chinese fonts May 16 09:23:13 xjqian: with that patch from busybox people you mean? the best way is to upload en_GB locale package somwhere, and let people compare it with theirs May 16 09:23:14 does that proof the patch for qemu is working? May 16 09:23:23 2007-01-11 erik ( erik@hovland.org) * Version update to 0.99.164 * Fixed usage of temporary files to be more secure * Closed several potential memory/file descriptor leaks * Cleaned up warnings in several parts of the code * Added checking to libbb/unzip.c so it did not use tainted data * Changed code in several places where it is possible to dereference an invalid pointer May 16 09:23:39 psokolovsky_: yes May 16 09:23:49 the busybox peopel patch May 16 09:24:25 xjqian: so, please upload ipk somewhere, I'll have a look at it. May 16 09:24:54 hrw: koen asked erik to make a tarball release of that, he said maybe. any news? May 16 09:25:42 psokolovsky_: I get it from cvs May 16 09:26:42 psokolovsky_: glibc-locale-en-gb_2.5-r6_armv5te.ipk? this one? May 16 09:26:54 xjqian: yeah May 16 09:27:18 xjqian: or rather, no May 16 09:28:04 or glibc-binary-localedata-en-gb_2.5-r6_armv5te.ipk May 16 09:28:14 my typo May 16 09:29:15 xjqian: glibc-binary-localedata-en-gb_2.5-r6_armv5te.ipk May 16 09:29:18 yep May 16 09:33:09 koen: Hmm.. gcc-3.4 was installed and in the $PATH but qemu was complaining. A apt-get remove gcc-3.4 apt-get install 3.4 solved the problem. No need to switch the compiler ;) May 16 09:39:29 psokolovsky_: I'm trying to find a place to upload, hold on May 16 09:40:04 ok May 16 09:47:24 df -h May 16 09:47:40 sorry wrong window :) May 16 09:48:37 psokolovsky_: http://artsci.wustl.edu/~jxu/glibc-binary-localedata-en-gb_2.5-r6_armv5te.ipk May 16 09:55:17 and I find all the locale-base-*** packages are empty, why those got packaged? May 16 09:55:56 xjqian: thanks. confirming byte-to-byte match of my and your generated locales. Are you 100% sure that gcc4 was used to build qemu? May 16 09:58:04 gcc --v gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) May 16 09:58:23 and if I do not apply the patch, bitbake stops at qemu-native May 16 09:58:46 xjqian: are you sure exactly *it* was used orf qemu? ;-) for example, do you still have gcc-3.4 around? May 16 09:58:52 xjqian: ok May 16 09:59:39 I will double-check again May 16 10:01:21 xjqian: ok, thanks. and I posted comment to http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2157 May 16 10:01:29 koen, hrw|afk: ^^^ May 16 10:01:34 I do see gcc-3.4-base there May 16 10:01:59 I will remove it and do a clean build to be 100% sure May 16 10:06:18 Does someone here have a copy of the "Intel® PXA27x Processor Family Developer’s Manual" ? Since the PXA27x-branch is sold to Marvell, you have to sign a NDA to get the info :/ May 16 10:08:05 Zuse_: google is your friend May 16 10:09:19 psokolovsky_: No it isn't searched already a couple of hours :/ Intel removed the manual from there webpages and all I found was direct links to now dead intel pages :( May 16 10:09:57 Zuse_: it is mirrored on whole bunch if pages around the world May 16 10:11:05 o.k. i will continues my search. Thanks May 16 10:38:30 Zuse_: http://carme.bfh.ch/index.php?content=19 May 16 11:09:52 koen: Configuring evince May 16 11:09:53 No theme index file in '/usr/share/icons/hicolor'. May 16 11:09:53 If you really want to create an icon cache here, use --ignore-theme-index. May 16 11:09:53 postinst script returned status 1 May 16 11:09:53 ERROR: evince.postinst returned 1 May 16 11:10:10 hmm May 16 11:10:18 we really need to fix hicolor-icon-theme in OE May 16 11:22:05 XorA: http://rafb.net/p/PbvLJ423.html May 16 11:22:36 koen: looks good May 16 11:24:22 how much space is required to compile angstroem image. Started a few hours ago and my free partition-space melt from 1.5 G to 350MB. Should I worry ;) May 16 11:24:40 Zuse_: INHERIT += "rm_work" May 16 11:24:50 that deletes stuff after its finished with it May 16 11:24:58 thanks May 16 11:25:08 in local.conf May 16 11:27:49 XorA: how's your angstrom-phone-image coming along? May 16 11:28:04 just got the pxa27x manual after couple of hours searching from a chinese website. Something postive that the copy everything. unlike psokolovsky_ said, it was hard to find a living link. May 16 11:28:15 koen: not managed to work on it yet, keep destroying the Neo May 16 11:28:24 Zuse_: few hours? May 16 11:29:30 hrw: not continuously, between I tried to work a bit ;) But really check google, all Intel links are dead May 16 11:29:36 Zuse_: will be easier next time. we should be prepared to do such searches, inet contains lotsa goodies. May 16 11:31:43 The good part on searching is that you find often other related docs. Got some of the other intel-based pxa27x pdfs. If there is any interest I can upload them somewhere May 16 11:36:34 koen, XOrA|lunch: do we really need a separate angstrom-phone-image? I'd just pull in some task-angstrom-phone dependency via the phone MACHINE_FEATURE. May 16 11:38:56 that's a good idea May 16 11:39:26 task-angstrom-phone = "gsmd openmoko-dialer"? May 16 11:42:09 is there an openmoko-hangup as well yet ? May 16 11:49:36 !lart angstrom for changing IMAGE_BASENAME May 16 11:49:36 * cdbot2 stabs angstrom for changing IMAGE_BASENAME May 16 11:52:28 on line 286 of mach-pxa/tosa.c there is a struct like this: May 16 11:52:35 .start = TOSA_IRQ_GPIO_TC6393_INT, May 16 11:52:36 .end = TOSA_IRQ_GPIO_TC6393_INT, May 16 11:52:47 shoudn't that .end have some kind of offset? May 16 11:53:13 the whole struct: May 16 11:53:15 * Toshiba Mobile IO Controller May 16 11:53:15 */ May 16 11:53:15 static struct resource tc6393_resources[] = { May 16 11:53:15 [0] = { May 16 11:53:18 .start = TOSA_LCDC_PHYS, May 16 11:53:18 .end = TOSA_LCDC_PHYS + 0x3ffffff, May 16 11:53:18 .flags = IORESOURCE_MEM, May 16 11:53:20 }, May 16 11:53:21 [1] = { May 16 11:53:23 .start = TOSA_IRQ_GPIO_TC6393_INT, May 16 11:53:25 .end = TOSA_IRQ_GPIO_TC6393_INT, May 16 11:53:27 .flags = IORESOURCE_IRQ, May 16 11:53:29 }, May 16 11:53:32 }; May 16 11:53:33 *sorry about the glooding May 16 11:53:35 flooding even May 16 11:55:40 AsLan^: unlikely it should. and yeah, don't post such amounts here, use pastebin May 16 11:56:08 pastebin? May 16 11:56:24 !pastebin May 16 11:58:42 I'm afraid I don't know how to use pastebin May 16 12:00:06 AsLan^: see #oe May 16 12:00:21 cheers, thank you :) May 16 12:03:36 koen: yes, and libgsmd-tools maybe. and then enable it via MACHINE_FEATURES like in task-base. May 16 12:04:04 I really like that idea May 16 12:04:27 what about phones which use gpe^2? May 16 12:04:50 gpepe doesn't build with current angstrom May 16 12:04:59 hrw: gpe^2 is its own image already, this is just about adding some phone functionality to the x11-image May 16 12:07:12 MACHINE_PHONE_FEATURES? May 16 12:08:33 hrw: MACHINE_FEATURE "phone" May 16 12:08:37 hrw: I'm unable to replicate the suspend behavior even with the prism modules unloaded May 16 12:09:25 looks like I need to find time to boot tosa May 16 12:46:36 hi all May 16 12:46:39 trying to buil an image i got this result message "ERROR: No providers of build target angstrom-minimal-image (for [])" ... distro is angtrom and target is quemux86 ... someone can give me some hints ? May 16 13:09:34 pH5: I was thinking of aiming at non-oe users May 16 13:09:45 pH5: they dont get the choice of just pulling stuff in May 16 13:13:58 XorA: if you have x11-image and phone-image (which is essentially x11-image + gsmd + dialer), why not just put the phone support directly into x11-image for devices with a gsm modem instead? May 16 13:14:54 I think I'm maybe misunderstanding. How does an angstrom-phone-image help non-oe users in a ways that an angstrom-x11-image with phone support would not? May 16 13:15:05 s/ways/way/ May 16 13:18:56 pH5: you could see it that way as well I suppose May 16 13:20:33 just need a decent dialer May 16 13:22:37 yes indeed May 16 13:22:50 btw, sorry that I missed the sunday sms-support-in-gsmd deadline ;) May 16 13:23:01 I wish I knew more about how this is supposed to work. May 16 13:23:43 pH5: it takes longer to load openmoko-dialer than to load a pdf in poppler :-) May 16 13:30:34 atm I have matchbox-panel consuming 98% cpu instead of opening the dropdown menu for about a minute... May 16 13:32:40 mb-panel or mb-panel-2? May 16 13:33:17 mb-panel-2, of course May 16 13:34:38 even mallum doesn't understand why openmoko choose to use mb-panel-2 May 16 13:35:00 and mallum also didn't understand why Jorn named the binary mb-panel May 16 13:35:21 is the pimlico sync hidden in oe somewhere? May 16 13:35:34 in poky May 16 13:35:40 since it doesn't have a release yet May 16 13:35:54 * XorA is filling his neo with crapo May 16 13:36:10 http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/poky/trunk/meta/packages/sync/libsync_svn.bb May 16 13:36:49 koen: cool, I just wasnt sure if I was just being blind in OE May 16 13:37:05 * koen wonders why zaurus users want debian while they can't grasp the notion of installing packages and insist on preloaded images May 16 13:37:17 :-D May 16 13:37:26 'because debian has lot of software' May 16 13:37:32 because debian has hundreds of RomZ May 16 13:37:34 because it has openoffice May 16 13:37:41 R0mZ May 16 13:37:49 angstrom lack openoffize so if suxX May 16 13:38:09 * XorA has a word doc OO.org cant load, abiword loads it fine :-) May 16 13:38:39 too bad that abiword 2.4 lack printing May 16 13:38:49 hrw: it does? prints fine here May 16 13:38:59 XorA: rotate page and print May 16 13:39:17 hrw: thats a bad quality bug report :-) May 16 13:39:38 ;) May 16 13:39:41 Buisly knocking out a powerbulge in the back of my spitZ May 16 13:39:56 MUST Load More ROMZZZZZZ May 16 13:40:06 GRIN GRIN May 16 13:40:13 ooh, what to do. can't wait to give the Bv4 it's ångström treatment, but need to play with gllin some more. May 16 13:40:25 pH5: boot angstrom on bv3 May 16 13:40:40 but dont leave either of them in suspend :-D May 16 13:40:55 hrw: of course I've done that already. May 16 13:41:16 so keep bv4 with openmoko or create chroot for gllin May 16 13:41:31 pH5: get an OABI tar.gz rootfs and extract that to sd May 16 13:43:09 ok, thanks. I'll try that. May 16 14:00:57 god I wish I could fool my rtm8000 card into working May 16 14:13:41 I want one of these http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/05/16/fujtsu_touts_worlds_smallest_pc/ May 16 14:18:12 XorA: kinda cool, but not for $1300.... May 16 14:21:48 hvontres|poodle: Id pay that May 16 14:22:04 something that I can use x86 debian and watch pr0n on :-D May 16 14:24:11 * XorA will keep an eye on price japan May 16 14:26:24 hmmh, but that's too small to get any real work done. May 16 14:26:39 * pH5 would love a 300g 10" book with decent battery life May 16 14:26:49 XorA: does it have wireless, i didn't spot it in the desciption May 16 14:27:00 description even May 16 14:28:17 ade|desk: all I know is that page May 16 14:28:41 I might sell me zauruses and get something nice like tha May 16 14:28:42 t May 16 14:43:18 XorA: yeah, but would you sell any legos ? :) May 16 14:47:30 hvontres|poodle: no, legos are Golden May 16 14:47:49 I shall one day build my Lego god, you shall all fear me then May 16 14:48:23 XorA: will it run Angstrom? for that is the path to world domination... May 16 14:52:16 no, WindowsXP Embedded May 16 14:52:43 angstrom-lego-image.bb :-) May 16 14:53:13 XorA: Will that be the most modular angstrom image to date ? :) May 16 14:53:31 hvontres|poodle: yes, I dont need that blue birck, snick, there done May 16 14:57:11 XorA: so you will have it bricked on start? May 16 15:03:39 hrw: very easy to brick and unbirck though May 16 15:04:46 sure May 16 15:09:32 little minifig slaves to do all its bidding May 16 15:40:47 Did someone saw this little toy already ? http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/05/16/fujtsu_touts_worlds_smallest_pc/ May 16 15:42:42 Zuse_: we were just discussing it May 16 15:43:23 Gosh, sorry didn't follow the discussion May 16 15:43:51 have some good contacts to Japan ;) May 16 16:01:12 where do I find opie-image ?? May 16 16:01:25 find -name cannot find it May 16 16:03:21 psokolovsky ?? May 16 16:11:37 psokolovsky please can you tell me where i can find opie-image find -name cannot find it May 16 16:12:50 alban_42: did you build it yourself? May 16 16:14:12 ah thanks no its in the openembedded stuff i can bitbake opie-image May 16 16:16:04 opimage fails partway through i was going to remove the bits i dont need & see if it builds May 16 16:19:04 i can find a task-opie.bb bit not a opie-image ?? May 16 16:26:18 alban_42: I think the task-opie.bb is the one you want to twiddle with anyways May 16 16:38:19 thanks i will have a go May 16 16:53:21 koen, I think I found another source for the -dbg package depends May 16 16:53:29 Package libpulse-dbg is depended upon by packages: May 16 16:53:29 gpe-conf May 16 16:54:59 Package libx11-dbg is depended upon by packages: May 16 16:54:59 angstrom-x11-base-depends May 16 16:55:14 for which machine is that? May 16 16:55:24 h5000 May 16 16:55:45 (just installed the April 1 test image and ipkg update/grade May 16 16:56:39 I can't find any reference to libpulse-dbg: http://rafb.net/p/ptayUz90.html May 16 16:58:08 * koen puzzled May 16 16:59:41 hmm May 16 17:00:08 my /usr/lib/ipkg/lists doesn't have it as a depends either ?! May 16 17:00:29 /var/lib/ipkg May 16 17:05:18 hmm May 16 17:05:46 koen, I erased the "debug" Packages file from /var/lib/ipkg and now the weird dependcy goes away May 16 17:27:03 good day May 16 17:28:32 mccarthy_: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/h5000/20070516/ May 16 17:29:17 bye May 16 17:30:52 koen, is there a 2.6.20-hh8? (This one is hh6, but the one that mmp sent me -- that works -- is hh8) May 16 17:31:09 I also think that psokolovsky_ thought that 2.6.21 would work better for the h5000 May 16 17:32:54 dunno about that May 16 17:33:04 mccarthy_: .bb for any -hh version can be easily made. just need to adjust defconfig appropriately. May 16 17:33:54 mccarthy_: I recommend to work on latest, 2.6.21-hh2. and, if you indeed have issues, then 1) file bug(s) with exact problem descriptions, 2) hack on CSV HEAD at all. May 16 17:37:31 psokolovsky_, hopefully mmp had filed his kernel hacks so that they are included in the latest ... I will try with a new image May 16 19:12:11 using Angstrom built 20070321 with gtk+ 2.10.10-r0 and libcairo 1.4.4-r0, the alarm clock does not render, neither in its graphical mode nor in text mode. gpe-watch renders only text but no hands. Any ideas? May 16 22:03:24 just tried to compile angstrom but freetype-native-2.2.1-r2 failed. Too many open files| make: *** No rule to make target `setup'. Stop.| FATAL: oe_runconf failed May 16 22:04:00 any idea ? May 16 22:05:50 "too many open files"? I haven't hit that since msdos times ;-D May 16 22:08:05 psokolovsky_: msdos ah somehow i miss the time where a just a couple of a dozen of files where enough to serve all your needs. May 16 22:33:58 hi May 16 22:34:18 yo CoreDump|home May 16 22:46:31 did someone here ever used a linux cluster to compile OE. Just playing around with OpenMosix, Distcc und Ccache and Icecream for another project and thought I can spped up compiling of OE a bit May 16 22:48:39 you do not "compile OE" May 16 22:48:41 Zuse: talk to ifastios May 16 22:48:50 you compile a distribution _using_ OE May 16 22:49:21 O.K. sorry I'm new to OE just need to learn the terms and slang ;) May 16 22:49:43 np ,9 May 16 22:49:45 ;) May 16 22:50:13 Zuse: he's usually over on #oe May 16 22:51:12 hvontres|poodle: Thanks will have a look there. Still waiting to catch RP, like to discuss some suspend stuff **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 17 02:59:57 2007