**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 18 02:59:56 2007 May 18 05:07:39 yeek, i just tested white noise on poodle (cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp) it sounds... quite interesting May 18 05:08:25 at least there is sound though :) May 18 08:16:31 morning May 18 08:16:51 hey XorA May 18 09:32:15 pH5: what do you think of http://rafb.net/p/mnuipb46.html ? May 18 09:41:01 koen: It's just like my local version :-) May 18 09:47:00 koen: very good, I like it May 18 09:53:09 * koen rsync ~/OE/downloads/ angstrom@linuxtogo.org:~/website/unstable/sources/ -av --exclude "*.md5" --exclude "svn" --exclude "cvs" --exclude "git" May 18 10:04:15 hi all May 18 10:06:39 pH5: what kernel do you use on your hx4700 and magician? May 18 10:06:43 .21-hh2 ? May 18 10:08:29 I have bitbaked angstrom-x11-image with latest oe and result initrd.bin image for Collie it's about 20mb... should be 14mb? May 18 10:08:55 pH5, psokolovsky: http://rafb.net/p/LVHVNn79.html <- make sense? May 18 10:09:52 koen: well, yes, but new defconfigs are still in testing... May 18 10:12:24 heh, I love the postalservice here in this country, been at the costums now for a week, and the status have been updated three times, with the same message over again @.@ May 18 10:21:20 koen: as psokolovsky said, we still need some days. With my custom defconfig everything works on magician, but I'd like to fix up the defconfigman configuration this weekend. May 18 10:25:23 ok May 18 10:54:24 great May 18 10:54:41 if I turn of debugging spew to ttySAC0, the kernel doesn't compile May 18 10:54:55 crap openmoko stuff May 18 10:57:55 anyway: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/fic-gta01/20070518/ May 18 11:03:12 koen: cool May 18 11:04:57 koen: btw where can I get the GPS stuff for neo? May 18 11:05:38 no idea :) May 18 11:06:31 koen: also did you notice #gpe and #opie have been subverted May 18 11:06:56 I heard May 18 11:07:27 I wonder if George is brave enough to go to linux conferences anymore May 18 11:09:09 probably May 18 11:09:24 since he's convinced he's doing "The Right Thing(TM)" May 18 11:10:24 * XorA sighs May 18 11:10:45 good thing Angstrom never hosted there, we'd have to give him a kicking May 18 11:11:02 I heard he's been houding wookey to use his Magical Toolchain(TM) to build (em)debian for arm May 18 11:11:29 s/MAgic/bitbake/?? May 18 11:11:49 dunno May 18 11:12:15 must be pretty painfull that lennert used my toolchain for armel :) May 18 11:12:56 ~lart apt-get build-dep May 18 11:13:42 I suspect openmoko*image is broken now May 18 11:13:47 since I removed the 100DPI hack May 18 11:14:04 * XorA always runs with 100dpi May 18 11:14:20 I'll wait with fixing it till thos is done with the themes May 18 11:14:37 I wish o-hand would do all the openmoko stuff instead of fixing all the fuckups May 18 11:15:08 I wish gtk+ widgets worked right at != 100dpi May 18 11:16:11 the o-hand sato engine is trying to fix that May 18 11:16:46 sean was like "WTF? why is it so fast?!?!?" when he used it May 18 11:16:49 oh wait, latest gtk+ has fixed it May 18 11:17:05 yay, my fonts and widgets agree :-) May 18 11:17:11 :) May 18 11:17:41 * XorA now has to unfix his "fixed" themes May 18 11:19:32 just a quick question, is qgview broken at the moment ? Got pixbuf_util.c:94: error: 'folder_closed' undeclared here (not in a function). Or do I just have do add some "magic bitbake glue" May 18 11:20:02 it builds over here May 18 11:20:05 that's all I know May 18 11:20:23 apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev May 18 11:20:39 then bitbake -c rebuild gqview May 18 11:23:02 XorA: could you add the pointercal for the neo to the wiki? May 18 11:23:13 XorA: thanks, I have the stron feeling that I can compile today a complete Angstrom image. *Somehow proud* May 18 11:23:18 hi has anyone tried to replave jffs2 with log fs? May 18 11:23:38 koen: yeah, Ill try and do it over weekend, I dont have it on me today May 18 11:23:54 ok, thanks May 18 11:35:57 koen: you state somewhere that a complete build takes very long time. How long does a "bitbake angstrom-console-image angstrom-x11-image" take on a rather standard system ? May 18 11:37:11 angstrom-console-image takes me around three hours I think, angstrom-x11-image I left to run overnight, I'm running on a 2.6ghz P4 May 18 11:37:46 actually, make that console image around five hours, because I've already got the kernel image built which took about 3 hours May 18 11:38:25 regarding the tosa suspend resume bug... May 18 11:39:09 it fails after a resume when a function tries to read a value from a register and gets -1 instead of the 0 it is expecting May 18 11:39:10 AsLan^: O.K. thanks. Just worried that something is going deeply wrong. I hope I fixed all problems now and that it will finish soon started yesterday evening May 18 11:39:15 anyone have any ideas? May 18 11:39:26 Zuse_: np :) May 18 11:39:56 my x11 image borked a couple of times because I was building it on a KDE system and I didn't have some gnome stuff installed May 18 11:40:14 AsLan^: dito ;) May 18 11:44:16 AsLan^: just starting to come into the suspend resume stuff for the Z. At least my Akita also have still problems. Just start to read the sources for kernel 2.4 (its working for me) and try to figure out whats different compared to 2.6 May 18 11:50:57 Zuse_: sorry was afk for a second there, that's a good idea, I've been playing around with the source but I can't figure out why the readl is failing on resume, I think I'll takr a look at 2.4 source as you suggest May 18 11:58:27 Just as we discussed about compiling time. I remember how the LFS-project, handled that. The used a relative system. The compilation time of busybox was set as one unit and all other packages was relative to that. May 18 11:58:58 Maybe thats someting worse to add to bitbake to get a roughly time estimation ? May 18 11:59:15 bitbake doesn't know about compiling May 18 11:59:20 it's just a task executor May 18 11:59:36 and OE supports to many configurations to make such an estimate usefull May 18 12:01:21 yes but if you measure the time it take bitbake to perform a "standard" task on a particular system. One can estimate how long the other tasks should take (roughly). Sum them all for the particular configuration and you get a time prediction May 18 12:01:58 what's a standard system? May 18 12:02:12 and what happens if the compiler for arm is slower as the compiler for mips? May 18 12:06:21 hmmm.... e.g. bitbake busybox should be performed for all systems or ? And if it took my arm compiler 2 min to do that I can predict the time consumption for any other package relative to this 2 min May 18 12:39:57 bitbake will complete in 4 billion years (to take an example where microsoft scewed up progress bars) May 18 12:40:10 at least then the user will be happen it finishes quicker than predicted May 18 12:42:42 XorA: ;) Yep but MS does even better. Ever copied more then 80G in one go. If you do so, you finish before you started. "Estimated finishing time -1534 hours and 45 minutes :D May 18 13:17:54 heh May 18 13:18:12 I can get a flight for €0.00 + taxes from edinburgh to birmingham May 18 13:20:16 koen: sorted, Ryanair? May 18 13:20:26 bmibaby May 18 13:20:54 * XorA will have to sort out Guadec in case wolfson do a FOSDEM again May 18 13:21:32 taxes are £20.00 May 18 13:21:44 yeah uk is expensive May 18 13:22:09 flying at a sane time is £28 + £20 May 18 13:22:12 Ill probably get train as Edin airport isnt as handy as it should be May 18 13:22:34 * koen is checking trains as well May 18 13:22:44 Virgin Train May 18 13:23:09 www.nationalrail.co.uk put in you want to go via sheffield for the express service May 18 13:23:30 I think there is one express each day each way May 18 13:23:56 £17 for a trainticket it seems May 18 13:26:32 yeah booked in advance they almost give them away May 18 13:27:49 koen: advatage with train is Liam will pay for the wireless, bring a hub, much fun can be had May 18 13:29:06 liam will go by train? May 18 13:29:13 yeah May 18 15:07:01 ufff... all this kernel suspend and resume stuff runs me mad. Feel like every single neuron in my brain starts to create new nodes. Maybe is the beginning to operate my brain under linux ;) However, I need a break go for shoppin, see you later ... May 18 17:16:23 koen: Re: suspend / resume tosa advice... neat, thanks :) May 18 17:17:45 :D May 18 19:21:56 Zero_Chaos, did you find the time to upgrade the aircrack package? May 18 21:32:43 Does somebody know about a problem with the sound on headphone mode being mono only on SL-c*000 ? May 18 21:32:53 I already searched the tickets but didn't find anything May 18 21:34:21 also the speaker only spits out silent scratches May 18 21:34:39 is that a known problem or should I open a ticket for it? May 18 21:35:16 I'ts only known if it's in the bugtracker :) May 18 21:35:34 koen, could have been that I searched wrong May 18 21:38:53 koen, is there a way to request a new password? May 18 21:38:58 for the bugtracker May 18 21:56:24 Laibsch, do I have to chose OE build or distro in the product section? May 18 21:56:41 (the bug is concerning the latest angstrom testing image with X11) May 18 21:57:40 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2339 May 18 21:57:44 my first bug :) May 18 22:05:59 dcordes: rule of thumb for me is that build means "something went wrong during the build", distro means "something is wrong while using the package (could be self-compiled) May 18 22:06:26 dcordes: Yours is a distro bug May 19 01:43:07 dcordes: I'll to it this weekend, it will be in monotone by Monday May 19 01:56:11 Zero_Chaos: didn't Mister_X release 0.9 ? May 19 01:56:24 SonicvanaJr: in OE? May 19 01:56:43 I see a notice on the site May 19 01:56:48 I dunno if he put it in OE May 19 01:56:59 he didn't May 19 01:57:03 not last I checked anyway May 19 01:58:27 Mkay, never mind then May 19 01:58:45 * Zero_Chaos bows May 19 01:59:12 You know it freaks me out when you do that... May 19 02:00:11 * Zero_Chaos kicks SonicvanaJr's ass May 19 02:00:12 better? May 19 02:00:34 Much **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 19 02:59:56 2007