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May 24 07:08:07 <nauj27> hi all
May 24 07:10:02 <koen> hey nauj27 
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May 24 08:01:27 <XorA> Zero_Chaos: sorry, my machine at home is pretty dead, I cant push all your nice recipes in
May 24 08:02:19 <koen> XorA: good morning
May 24 08:09:57 <XorA> morning koen 
May 24 08:51:11 * XorA starts the process of moving all important pr0n to USB disk before his machine dies totally
May 24 09:26:02 <XorA> gah Im gonna die of eating quavers
May 24 09:26:35 <koen> pushover
May 24 09:28:19 <XorA> there isnt even any cheese in them :-(
May 24 09:28:27 <XorA> I just looked at the ingredients
May 24 09:28:40 <XorA> but 30% of them is vegetable oil :-)
May 24 11:07:54 <koen> psokolovsky: what's the status of the .21 hh.org kernels?
May 24 11:09:08 <psokolovsky> koen: I'm going to update 2.6.21 defconfigs for bunch of machines today-tomorrow, and then propose to move angstrom to it.
May 24 11:09:19 <Furre> Hmm, I tried putting a new battery into the Z that have never been used before, but when I try to charge it, the charging led is blinking, is this normal? the battery gives 3.88V unloaded already o.o
May 24 11:09:21 <koen> go ahead with the move
May 24 11:10:01 <psokolovsky> koen: there're how a bit of bad news regarding .21 - it broke jffs2 again. So we're waiting of soem resolution for it, there's currently thread in LAKML on that.
May 24 11:12:28 <Furre> no one knows? dont want to use the battery if its defective ._
May 24 11:18:38 <koen> psokolovsky: do you mean jffs2 or flash?
May 24 11:19:19 <psokolovsky> koen: well, the issue is in mtd drivers to be exact.
May 24 11:19:40 <koen> the consisten_sync bug?
May 24 11:21:23 <psokolovsky> koen: yeah, exactly
May 24 11:21:33 <psokolovsky> changed API ;-I
May 24 11:22:58 <psokolovsky> so, bd2 handles that issue, I hope he'll come up with something suitable in the meantime, while big guys chatter what's right and wrong
May 24 12:38:36 <XorA> gah, why are computers so damn expensive
May 24 12:46:13 <gremlin[it]> hi all 
May 24 12:47:59 <gremlin[it]> someone try to build angtrom dor qemux86 ??? I did with xfce-image ... it boot and got splash screen but nothing more 
May 24 12:48:55 <koen> I built it yesterday, but didn't boot it
May 24 12:49:03 <koen> and note that xfce-image isn't supported
May 24 12:49:12 <koen> see http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
May 24 12:49:45 <hrw> gremlin[it]: I do not know does xfce-image was ever working
May 24 12:49:55 <gremlin[it]> it boot for me, i need an image with X and gtk already build (and without touchscreen) what u sugegst ?
May 24 12:50:25 <XorA> x11-image
May 24 12:50:28 <gremlin[it]> hi koen, hrw 
May 24 12:50:35 <koen> hrw: which uboot did work for you?
May 24 12:50:41 <gremlin[it]> thanks XorA  
May 24 12:50:50 <XorA> gremlin[it]: angstrom-x11-image that is
May 24 12:51:04 <hrw> koen: 2062
May 24 12:52:22 <hrw> koen: bv3 had also 2040 one
May 24 13:46:49 <dcordes> does somebody have an idea how to switch windows in irssi?
May 24 13:49:10 <koen> meta+number
May 24 13:49:20 <koen> or esc, wait, number
May 24 13:50:34 <dcordes> koen: is meta fn?
May 24 13:51:08 <koen> usually it's alt
May 24 13:53:01 <dcordes> doesn't work for me
May 24 13:54:07 <XorA> ctrl +n ctrl +p
May 24 13:54:18 <XorA> next and previous
May 24 13:55:24 <dcordes> ah perfect
May 24 13:55:38 <dcordes> thanks XorA, koen
May 24 14:15:51 <CoreDump|home> hi
May 24 15:07:33 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: the man for irssi isn't bad, and the wiki explains a lot
May 24 17:48:13 <lindenle> Is there a way to try angstrom in an emulator on my laptop befor i install it on my zaurus
May 24 17:48:31 <lindenle> or can someone tell me if it is stable enough to replace OZ yet
May 24 17:59:58 <hyakuhei> Hmm, There are a number of outstanding issues with running Angstrom on the collie. Whats the main reason for these not to be fixed? Is it a lack of developers, hardware or are the issues considerably harder than your average 2.4->2.6 porting? 
May 24 18:01:13 <psokolovsky> hyakuhei: lack of developers
May 24 18:04:46 <hyakuhei> ah ok
May 24 18:04:50 <hyakuhei> ++ ;-)
May 24 18:06:00 <hyakuhei> I'll need help here and there to get started and work on difficult stuff, but I'm more than happy to take a look at getting a few of those things off the list.
May 24 18:07:15 <hyakuhei> I bought a collie to fart about with a couple of days ago
May 24 19:27:41 <Crofton> does angstrom run on a slug?
May 24 20:21:42 <Furre> is it normal for the Z to die when having ~20% battery left?
May 24 20:24:29 <hyakuhei> which Z
May 24 20:24:51 <Furre> C1000
May 24 20:25:54 <Furre> or maybe that measurement is wrong?
May 24 20:26:02 <Furre> the repairmeny said 3.5V
May 24 20:26:12 <Furre> and normal should be 3.7V I think
May 24 20:26:54 <hyakuhei> ah right 
May 24 20:28:49 <Furre> says 43% now heh :x
May 24 20:29:00 <Furre> readings are probably taotally off then ^^
May 24 20:29:22 <hvontres|poodle> Furre: which distro? I think the oz-angstrom 2.6 kernels are real conservative, at least they are on poodle. I think the problem is that somebody needs to collect some data on dac readings vs batt voltage to update the tables the kernel uses to calculate battery life.
May 24 20:29:43 <hvontres|poodle> Furre: so for now, the kernel is set up to suspend at ~25%
May 24 20:32:27 <Furre> ah, im trying pdax at the moment, maybe its the same there? so, when it suspends, I have to charge it to be able to wake it up again? o.o
May 24 20:33:11 <Furre> think same thing happen with angstrom aswell
May 24 20:35:31 <hvontres|poodle> Furre: well, you can wake it up for a moment, but when the battery gets down to ~25%, you should plug in the charger
May 24 20:36:44 <hvontres|poodle> Furre: one of these days I am going to work on getting some data for poodle....RP has a patch that periodically reports the battery reading to the console, now I just need to find some sort of data collection system for the actual voltage :)
May 24 20:36:48 <koen> the zaurus line craps out if battery gets low
May 24 20:36:55 <koen> that's why the kernel dims the backlight
May 24 20:51:53 <Furre> aah
May 24 20:54:13 <AcTiVaTe> It's kinda silent in #openzaurus. Anyone here able to give me some pointers after messing up my ipkg?
May 24 20:54:42 <Furre> AcTiVaTe, I was told to reflash the whole thing :x
May 24 20:54:47 <Furre> but maybe there's an easier way
May 24 22:55:08 <rogelio> hi, Im testing the image Angstrom-minimalist-image-test-20070516-h5000.rootfs.jffs2
May 24 22:55:40 <rogelio> with linuxargs "root=/dev/mtdblock1 console=ttyS00,115200"
May 24 22:55:53 <rogelio> and i get this
May 24 22:55:56 <rogelio> [    1.390000] VFS: Cannot open root device "mtdblock1" or unknown-block(31,1)
May 24 22:55:56 <rogelio> [    1.390000] Please append a correct "root=" boot option
May 24 22:55:56 <rogelio> [    1.400000] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(31,1)
May 24 22:56:04 <rogelio> any ideas?
May 24 23:02:19 <summatusmentis> how did you install it?
May 24 23:02:55 <hvontres|poodle> rogelio: try adding 'rootfstype=jffs2'
May 24 23:05:04 <rogelio> OK. With linuxargs "rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock1 console=ttyS00,115200"
May 24 23:05:06 <rogelio> i get the same
May 24 23:05:08 <rogelio> :-(
May 24 23:05:48 <rogelio> I already had installed familiar 0.8.4 so I only did a > load root in the bootloader
May 24 23:13:56 <hvontres|poodle> rogelio: where did you install the image to?
May 24 23:14:18 * hvontres|poodle is just shooting in the dark here, since he only has a Zauru
May 24 23:14:28 <hvontres|poodle> a Zaurus even
May 24 23:15:13 <summatusmentis> yeah, to me it looks like you're using the wrong root device, or something isn't right w/ the way you installed it
May 24 23:17:38 <rogelio> well, Im following the same process to install familiar but using the angstrom .jffs2 file instead of the familiar one. I think it get installed inside a MTD flash device of my ipaq
May 24 23:19:09 <summatusmentis> can I ask what version of the ipaq you're using?
May 24 23:19:54 <rogelio> h5550
May 24 23:21:18 <summatusmentis> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ipaq-h2200-series <-- according to this, you need mtdblock3(granted, this is the h2200, so it might be dif.)
May 24 23:22:32 <rogelio> OK. I have tried with mtdblock[0123]
May 24 23:22:42 <rogelio> and nothing
May 24 23:23:23 <rogelio> FYI, when it is booting it says:
May 24 23:23:24 <rogelio> [    1.110000] iPAQ flash: found 16777216 bytes
May 24 23:23:25 <rogelio> [    1.110000] iPAQ flash: total size is 0x3000000
May 24 23:23:25 <rogelio> [    1.110000] Concatenating MTD devices:
May 24 23:23:25 <rogelio> [    1.120000] (0): "IPAQ flash bank 1"
May 24 23:23:25 <rogelio> [    1.120000] (1): "IPAQ flash bank 2"
May 24 23:23:25 <rogelio> [    1.130000] into device "ipaq"
May 24 23:23:27 <rogelio> [    1.130000] 2 cmdlinepart partitions found on MTD device ipaq
May 24 23:23:32 <rogelio> [    1.130000] Using dynamic partition definition
May 24 23:23:34 <rogelio> [    1.140000] Creating 2 MTD partitions on "ipaq":
May 24 23:23:36 <rogelio> [    1.140000] 0x00000000-0x00040000 : "bootldr"
May 24 23:23:37 <rogelio> [    1.150000] 0x00040000-0x02000000 : "root"
May 24 23:23:56 <rogelio> so I think it should be mtdblock1 (just as it is with familiar)
May 24 23:24:01 <summatusmentis> rogelio: you're installing to flash right? not to a CF/SD card?
May 24 23:24:13 <rogelio> yes, to flash
May 24 23:32:37 <summatusmentis> honestly, I have no clue
May 24 23:32:41 * summatusmentis only has Zaurii
May 24 23:33:39 <rogelio> summatusmentis: thanks anyway :-)
May 24 23:34:35 <summatusmentis> judging from what you've said, what you're doing looks right...
May 24 23:41:10 <rogelio> well. I will try with another console-image, if it doesnt work I`ll try with an older image (I remember it passed this point. I'll test it and report)
May 25 00:35:29 <rogelio> good news! I tried Angstrom-console-image-test-20070401-h5000.rootfs.jffs2 (old image) on my ipaq h5550 and it boots!! I'm in the login prompt.
May 25 00:36:21 <rogelio> the rare thing is that I used the same linuxargs
May 25 00:46:45 <SonicvanaJr> Anyone else ever experienced a plethora of errors when building gnumeric ?
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