**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 26 02:59:57 2007 May 26 09:06:01 koen are you a May 26 09:06:05 there May 26 10:23:53 hi May 26 12:12:39 can anyone tell me where the pushbuttons on a spitz are defined May 26 12:28:33 i am scrartting about in xkbd-0.8.150cvs May 26 12:31:44 which pushbuttons? May 26 12:34:11 i am looking for the calinder and address button on the z3200 May 26 12:35:11 the bindings for thease two buttons aree the wrong way around May 26 12:35:44 pushing the address buttobn starts gpe-calinfer May 26 12:35:55 i mean calinder May 26 12:38:07 calendar? May 26 12:38:25 check /etc/matchbox/ May 26 12:38:30 yes my bad spelling May 26 12:39:45 ok will do i was looking in xinput.h May 26 12:40:16 wrong place then ;) May 26 12:40:52 those 'tskeys' are defined somewhere in /etc/zaurusd/ as Fxx-Fyy and then in /etc/matchbox/ actions are bind to those keys May 26 14:20:14 have anyone used GPSdrive here? May 26 14:51:19 hi. I'm trying to build angstrom for ipaq h5000. bitbake angstrom-minimal-image and bitbake angstrom-console-image builds perfectly... May 26 14:51:49 but angstrom-x11-image.bb fails with: May 26 14:51:50 | + for i in locale-base-en-gb May 26 14:51:50 | + ipkg-cl -f /OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/h5000-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/angstrom-x11-image-1.0-r10/temp/ipkg.conf -o /OE/build/tmp/angstrom/rootfs install locale-base-en-gb May 26 14:51:50 | Nothing to be done May 26 14:51:50 | An error ocurred, return value: 4. May 26 14:51:51 | Collected errors: May 26 14:51:53 | Cannot find package locale-base-en-gb. May 26 14:51:55 | Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update' May 26 14:51:57 NOTE: Task failed: /OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/h5000-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/angstrom-x11-image-1.0-r10/temp/log.do_rootfs.23492 May 26 14:52:18 I have GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = "en_US.UTF-8 es_MX.UTF-8" in my local.conf May 26 14:52:31 any ideas? May 26 15:10:34 rds: so I guess it's pretty clear taht you must have en_GB there too May 26 15:13:54 psokolovsky_: OK. I'll rebuild with ALL locales. I commented out GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES, how do I rebuild the necessary packages? A simple bitbake *image doesn't rebuild anything. May 26 15:15:25 rds: to rebuild *necessary* packages, use bitbake -c rebuild May 26 15:21:46 psokolovsky_: OK. Do you thinks is it enough with rebuilding glibc? Or do you suggest to rebuild everything? May 26 15:23:56 rds: if you have glibc rebuilt with all locales, I suggest rebuilding nothing. Otherwise yes, rebuilding glibc, followed by normal "bitbake *-image" will be enough May 26 15:25:17 psokolovsky_: thanks a lot! May 26 16:23:40 summatusmentis: Sandisk Connect + will opps on Zaurus May 26 17:18:59 XorA|gone: it will, ok, tha's good to know, thanks May 26 17:19:50 XorA|gone: I know you're not here, is it a prism2 chipset? May 26 17:24:15 Where do I ask questions regarding kernel issues? May 26 17:33:22 rds: for hh.rorg kernels, #handhelds May 26 17:48:59 summatusmentis: prism3 May 26 17:54:37 have anyone used gpsdrive on their Z? o.o May 26 17:56:51 I'm learning a lot from this whole cross-compiling business :( May 26 17:58:01 Silly configure script thinks my unsigend ints are 0 bytes long.. Ah well May 26 18:35:08 XorA|gone: oh, ok, thanks May 26 19:09:09 are the feeds down? o.o May 26 19:09:33 wont let me do the ipkgupdate :/& May 26 19:10:37 Furre: are you getting a 400 error? May 26 19:11:05 not what 400 error means, but it says "Unknown host" May 26 19:11:14 Works here May 26 19:11:22 Furre: sounds like your networking is down May 26 19:12:09 it got an IP adress atleast and the AP registers it aswell :/ May 26 19:13:25 auch, now its complaining >.o May 26 19:13:33 DNS works too? May 26 19:13:34 "Network is unreachable" :/ May 26 19:13:40 Freak_NL ^^ May 26 19:14:19 can CF-wifi card stop working if they get too hot? May 26 19:15:41 Anything can stop working because of heat, but not very likely with Wifi-cards I think May 26 19:15:55 If you can touch it, it is not too hot May 26 19:16:06 if I touch mine I burn my hands on it xD May 26 19:16:10 it gets up at 58C :x May 26 19:16:21 Toasty May 26 19:16:37 yeah, totally a powerconsuming beast :/ May 26 19:16:45 It gets that hot in your PDA? May 26 19:16:59 yeah :/ May 26 19:17:04 :| May 26 19:17:14 almost burning my fingers through the plastic :x May 26 19:17:36 dont buy the Ambicom :x May 26 19:18:09 Got a Planex May 26 19:18:19 I'd be worried about a connection if it's getting that hot... May 26 19:18:43 appears to work now thought, wierd :x May 26 19:18:48 that is weird May 26 19:18:58 Not if it's heat May 26 19:19:03 I'm gonna be replacing my symbol w/ a SanDisk May 26 19:19:06 That would cause random behaviour May 26 19:19:43 I suppose... but why in the world is it getting that hot? May 26 19:19:48 mine get's warm, but... May 26 19:20:10 consumes lots of powers I suppose? would explain the bad batterytime too May 26 19:21:00 I guess.... that seems excessively hot though May 26 19:21:21 yeah, maybe a faulty one of some reason, but atleast it has worked each time till this random fault o.o May 26 19:21:34 works fine now again May 26 19:21:36 that's weird May 26 19:22:11 atleast it makes the keyboard warm and comfortable ;) May 26 19:22:18 good when winter comes! May 26 19:22:26 Heh, my laptop does that May 26 19:22:36 Desktop model Pentium 4 May 26 19:22:55 :) May 26 19:23:32 aww, quake isnt compiled for ångström? :) May 26 19:27:25 bitbake quake May 26 19:27:36 hmm? May 26 19:27:55 It's in OE May 26 19:27:56 lol, sorry, if it's not there, you should build it May 26 19:28:01 also in Ångtröm, which tty would be the USBport? o.o May 26 19:28:16 summatusmentis, hehe, not that good on linux yet but im trying to get there ;) May 26 19:28:39 Furre: oh, you're running windows on your desktop? May 26 19:29:00 unfortunately, yes ;x May 26 19:29:15 pondering installing both thought :) May 26 19:29:42 want to practice linux on the Z a littlebit first to see if Id be good enough with it ^^ May 26 19:29:53 oh, well, you need linux if you're going to setup a corss compile env. May 26 19:30:24 yes, but Ive compiled on the Z one time before, now sure exactly how but someone guided me through it ^^ May 26 19:30:51 got some problems now thought, trying to get an USB-GPS device to work, but it isnt recieving any power from the Z ._. May 26 19:30:55 oh really? that's hardcore :-) May 26 19:31:05 yeah, the Z usb port is unpowered May 26 19:31:25 o.o, no, I had it receaving power with pdaXrom when I tried it before atleast o.o May 26 19:31:32 a USB-memory that is May 26 19:31:50 it has power, just not much May 26 19:32:06 you need a powered hub for big stuff May 26 19:32:16 I know, but im not getting any output at all :x May 26 19:32:19 Freak_NL: right, but it's considered unpowered, in that it won't power something directly from USB May 26 19:32:40 or is it just Ångström that have turned it off? May 26 19:33:21 it's possble... May 26 19:33:39 the USB-memory reacived power when using pdaXrom too May 26 19:33:44 but maybe i need to mount it? May 26 19:34:11 not sure which one is the USB in Ångström thought :x May 26 19:35:23 you shouldn't need to mount the GPS May 26 19:36:29 well, when unmoungint a CF card, it stops giving it power, maybe one needs to mount a USB-device for it to get recive power aswell May 26 19:37:51 but, do anyone know where in /dev/ the USB is? o.o May 26 19:41:15 I assume you need a driver, hence the power issue May 26 19:41:26 can you do a lsmod | grep usb and tell me what you get? May 26 19:41:59 usbcore 117056 0 May 26 19:43:28 hrm... does the gps work w/ linux? May 26 19:44:14 yes, shouldnt be a problem at all, pdaXrom detected it and could capture the serial output. May 26 19:44:26 oh, right, you did say that May 26 19:44:28 but the problem now is: the USB give out 0V, not 5V May 26 19:44:43 yeah... May 26 19:45:17 none of you have tried a USB device with ångström? o.o May 26 19:45:28 I've had a usb stick working May 26 19:45:53 the USB stick isnt recive any power either when I try :x May 26 19:46:15 lsmod | grep ether May 26 19:46:17 the Z probably dont know it should make the USB-port active or something May 26 19:46:18 ok May 26 19:46:19 tell me what that says May 26 19:46:33 that gave me nothign at all May 26 19:47:02 ok... try modprobe ochi-hcd May 26 19:47:08 then try the gps May 26 19:47:30 FATAL: Module ochi_hcd not found. May 26 19:48:17 wierd, I remember that one have worked before thought o.o May 26 19:48:28 last time I installed ångström that is May 26 19:49:40 that might be the issue.... May 26 19:50:02 ah o.o, very wierd May 26 19:50:16 yeah, no kidding... that's what I had to do for my usb stick May 26 19:50:33 maybe the install failed? :/ May 26 19:50:46 I suppose it's possible hold on May 26 19:50:50 ok May 26 19:51:19 ipkg install kernel-module-ohci-hcd May 26 19:53:03 * Furre waits for the Z to output something May 26 19:53:48 downloading now May 26 19:54:12 well, saying its downloading, but no bytes sent May 26 19:54:18 ah there goes May 26 19:54:24 configuring May 26 19:55:44 yay, now the USBport got power ^^ May 26 19:55:58 ok, I was wondering if that's all it took May 26 19:56:08 what GPS device are you using? May 26 19:56:49 I have no clue :), a random one from eBay, but atleast now it got power! I wonder why ohci-ohc wasnt installed thought, last time I installed Ångström im sure it was there! May 26 19:57:18 yeah, I thought it was installed by default, maybe not May 26 19:57:30 it have been before, but not this time @.@ May 26 19:57:36 and exactly the same files :x May 26 19:59:03 that's odd May 26 19:59:08 and now the Z froze hehe May 26 19:59:17 lol May 26 19:59:49 guess it didnt like the gps, I did the lsmod | grep usb May 26 19:59:56 and it said the GPS was usbstorage May 26 19:59:57 o.o May 26 20:00:23 yeah, I'm really unfamiliar w/ gps, so... May 26 20:00:51 hehe, well, lmoast got it working on pdaxrom, onlu that important libraries were missing so couldnt use it May 26 20:01:04 hmm, do you know which tty is the USB in ångström? May 26 20:01:15 I don't... hrw might May 26 20:01:42 well, could always try each of them xD May 26 20:01:48 Furre: /dev/ttyUSB0? May 26 20:01:51 * Furre brbs in a day or two ;x May 26 20:01:56 hrw, didnt exist May 26 20:02:00 or wait May 26 20:02:06 maybe now that the driver was installed it might May 26 20:02:08 Ill check now again May 26 20:02:18 Furre: make it easy - connect it to desktop machine and look what it load May 26 20:02:31 he's on windows desktop May 26 20:02:33 * Furre doesnt have linux :/ May 26 20:02:34 then install proper driver^Wkernel module on pda May 26 20:02:43 then get livecd May 26 20:02:45 but on pdaXrom it loaded on ttyusb0 May 26 20:02:56 so you lack some kernel modules May 26 20:03:37 even more? whats going on @.@ May 26 20:03:52 Furre: which Z? May 26 20:03:54 didnt have ohci-hcd this time, but last time I did without installing it manually >.< May 26 20:03:54 Furre: ipkg install kernel-modules will get them all, it looks like it May 26 20:03:58 hrw, C1000 May 26 20:04:01 do 'ipkg install kernel-modules' then May 26 20:04:04 okk May 26 20:04:31 do you know any reason why all the times before (20+ times) I flashed ångström before, ohci existed, but not this time? ._. May 26 20:04:58 I assume something didn't work correctly when you flashed now May 26 20:04:59 or might it have been jsut a random act of the Z? :/ May 26 20:05:35 very wierd, same SD card was used, same files :x, guess Z decided not to this time then ^^ May 26 20:06:11 bugger, I lost my usb-mini -> usb cable :-/ May 26 20:06:25 aww D: May 26 20:06:36 I ordered two more on ebay, want me to give you the URL? May 26 20:06:42 you mean mini A btw? May 26 20:06:54 to use USB devices on Z right? May 26 20:06:58 yeah May 26 20:07:04 ok, let me see if I can find it May 26 20:07:35 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=012&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=220070135142&rd=1&rd=1 May 26 20:07:36 there go May 26 20:07:46 actually, I lied :-D it was in my suitcase May 26 20:07:51 thanks though May 26 20:08:01 xD hehe, no worries :) May 26 20:08:24 I ordered one to come with my Z, on the piocture of pricejapan, was like a 10cm one, I recived a 1.5meter one @.@ May 26 20:08:33 so I ordered those short ones to use instead :x May 26 20:10:02 yeah, I got a short one w/ my Z, from conics May 26 20:10:24 with a white one at one end right? May 26 20:10:47 yeah May 26 20:11:04 that was what pricejapan showed too, instead I got an all black, 1.5meter one :/ May 26 20:11:15 I was like: ... well this wont work good ^^ May 26 20:11:21 lol May 26 20:12:12 atleast on that eBay is the cables probably the same you got summatusmentis incase you loose it :) May 26 20:12:18 so you dont have to buy a 1.5m long one @.@ May 26 20:12:43 now its installing all the modules May 26 20:12:55 do I need to reboot the Z once installed? May 26 20:13:16 you shouldn't need to May 26 20:13:28 ... module_wacom o.o, one can use a drawingpad on the Z? xD May 26 20:13:44 apparently, it might also be for a specific stylus May 26 20:13:58 one can use about anything on the Z May 26 20:14:06 aah ^^ May 26 20:14:22 going to see if a tty shows up now May 26 20:14:28 anything linux can do(except for ndiswrapper, and other x86 stuff) the Z can do May 26 20:14:47 ah ^^ May 26 20:14:52 hmm, no ttyUSB May 26 20:14:59 only tty and loads of numbers May 26 20:15:07 well, at least an Ã…ngström Z can May 26 20:15:12 tty from tty0 to tty63 May 26 20:15:27 oh wait.. ttyS0 to ttyS2 too May 26 20:15:46 Freak_NL: what do you mean? May 26 20:15:50 * Furre cat's those last three May 26 20:16:25 omg this is going to take forever x.x May 26 20:16:39 does anyone have a bluetooth CF that works w/ their Z? May 26 20:17:07 summatusmentis: the original Z rom isn't as versitile May 26 20:17:24 * CoreDump|home points out that BT USB dongles should work just fine ;) May 26 20:17:40 Freak_NL: ok, that's true May 26 20:17:59 CoreDump|home: geez, you're right, ok, most any USB BT dongle? May 26 20:18:01 oh maybe CoreDump|home knows which tty is the USB? o.o May 26 20:18:27 summatusmentis: the ones that work w/ linux work on the Z May 26 20:18:35 Furre: ? May 26 20:18:37 Furre: give me that GPS and I will tell you ;D May 26 20:18:43 hrw ;) May 26 20:18:52 otherwise stop yelling May 26 20:18:55 CoreDump|home, im tyring to read a serial output from the USBport May 26 20:19:01 it is LINUX May 26 20:19:05 it is SIMPLE May 26 20:19:05 but I dont know which of the 68 different tty it is May 26 20:19:17 you plug device. kernel tell what was plugged May 26 20:19:26 udev create /dev/ entry for device May 26 20:19:28 Furre: it would be /dev/ttyUSB0 or something like that May 26 20:19:38 yeah, but ttyUSB0 does nto exist o.o May 26 20:19:51 only tty0-tty63, and ttyS0-ttyS2 May 26 20:19:59 if YOU have problem WITH device on ZAURUS/PDA/ETC then RECREATE it on NORMAL PC May 26 20:20:23 * Furre likes hrw too ^^ May 26 20:20:43 o.o, that probably didnt work in english :x May 26 20:20:45 Furre: I do not like users which make simple things complicated May 26 20:21:15 hrw, well, does this make it more simple, in pdaXrom, it was at ttyUSB0, but now on the Ångström, ttyUSB0 does not exist :x May 26 20:21:35 ipkg install kernel-modules; replug device May 26 20:21:38 its kinda difficult to read an output when it doesnt exist ._. May 26 20:21:41 hrw, I did that May 26 20:21:44 still no more tty's May 26 20:21:59 ok. May 26 20:22:08 maybe it needs to be rebooted? :/ May 26 20:22:21 Furre: this ain't windows ;) May 26 20:22:23 can you boot linux livecd (knoppix for example) and test that device on desktop machine? May 26 20:22:37 hrw, as said, it works fine with pdaxrom o.o May 26 20:23:08 Furre: which one? there are many versions of pdaX and some of them use 2.4, other 2.6, other use misc dirty hacks May 26 20:23:13 CoreDump|home, I know, but Z appears to work better after a reboot if it acts wierd ^^ May 26 20:23:20 hrw, pdaxii13 May 26 20:23:31 Furre: reboot, wait until fully booted, then pastebin the output of "dmesg" May 26 20:23:39 Furre: then it is totally different May 26 20:23:47 CoreDump|home, okk May 26 20:24:18 hrw, ok :) May 26 20:24:40 CoreDump|home, how do I pastebin? *havnt managed to copy anything from terminal window :/( May 26 20:24:53 heh May 26 20:25:06 ctrl+c obivously isnt working ^^ May 26 20:25:07 well, I have no clue how to do that on a windows box May 26 20:25:14 nono, I ment on the Z May 26 20:25:25 Furre: dmesg >/media/card/dmesg.txt May 26 20:25:30 umount /media/card May 26 20:25:38 eject sd card, put in windows cardreader May 26 20:25:43 doing > writes it to a file? May 26 20:25:43 pastebin file May 26 20:25:47 yes May 26 20:25:50 ah, neat ^^ May 26 20:26:10 oh... totallllly novice ;D May 26 20:26:34 not really, I know rm -rf / isnt good o.o May 26 20:26:38 lol May 26 20:26:42 hehe May 26 20:26:53 =) May 26 20:26:59 someone tried to make me write that but I knew rm ment remove and that removing / probably wouldnt be a good thing ^^ May 26 20:26:59 but hrw, yeah, he's pretty much a newb, Z being his first linux endeavour May 26 20:27:17 * hrw use linux for ~8 years May 26 20:27:21 * Furre puts a note with Newbie written on his forhead May 26 20:27:25 there :) May 26 20:27:32 and about 6.5 years only linux May 26 20:27:45 Furre: essentially 'remove force recursive /(being similar to C:/)' May 26 20:28:05 summatusmentis, yes I know now, but didnt exactly know it when the person said that to me hehe :) May 26 20:28:13 have learned how it worked some now ^^ May 26 20:28:31 Furre: yeah May 26 20:28:53 you're doing pretty well, I was scared of the CLI when I started linux May 26 20:29:19 hehe, well, I actually tried it on my desktop before :/ May 26 20:29:33 but when I needed help, I went into a linux IRC channel, that is why I havnt tried it again May 26 20:29:53 Furre: then you switch to linux, then you will start to learn.. May 26 20:30:01 unlike here where people are actually nice and help newbies, I was kinda rejected and told that I should leave if I didnt know howto do it o.o May 26 20:30:16 then you will be able to install linux on machine which lack cd or cant boot from usb-storage May 26 20:30:37 hrw, hehe, well now that Im actually running linux on the Z and people are helping me, im starting to like it so probably soon Ill install it on my computer aswell ^^ May 26 20:31:27 Furre: most irc users are jerks, www.linuxquestions.org is best linux community I've seen May 26 20:31:50 http://ufos85.mine.nu/zaurus/dmesg.txt May 26 20:31:54 there is the dmesg hrw May 26 20:32:02 * CoreDump|home imagines a newbie walking into #debian and shudders May 26 20:32:11 or CoreDump|home it was that wanted it? :) May 26 20:32:33 CoreDump|home, kinda went into the channels I found and was told to go away again and again :/ May 26 20:32:46 oh wait May 26 20:33:04 I should dmesg after doing the modprobe ohci? May 26 20:33:06 Furre: ok, was the usb dongle connected during the reboot? May 26 20:33:13 Furre: indeed May 26 20:33:13 Furre: now connect device and report dmesg and lsusb output May 26 20:33:24 it was, but wasnt receaving any power, let me give it some power May 26 20:34:35 ok mnow its getting power May 26 20:35:33 gah, now that I try to umount it I get "device is busy" on the SD card :/ May 26 20:35:44 cd / May 26 20:35:47 then try May 26 20:35:50 doh <.< May 26 20:35:55 haha I jsut realised xD May 26 20:35:58 thanks summatusmentis ^^ May 26 20:36:02 sure thing May 26 20:36:07 I still do that May 26 20:36:16 haha :3, probably not my last time either! May 26 20:36:51 hrw and CoreDump|home, now I have it: http://ufos85.mine.nu/zaurus/dmesg2.txt May 26 20:37:26 looks like a missing driver May 26 20:37:38 Furre: lsusb please May 26 20:37:43 ok May 26 20:37:44 Furre: id of device is enough May 26 20:38:16 Bus 1 Device 2: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port May 26 20:38:24 Prolific is the chip in the GPS May 26 20:38:29 thx May 26 20:38:32 well, manufacturer :) May 26 20:38:37 prolific is usb->serial adapter May 26 20:38:47 s/prolificpl2303 May 26 20:38:50 s/prolific/pl2303 May 26 20:38:56 oh o.o, sure they dont make gps hardware too? xD May 26 20:38:57 Furre: you lack usb-serial then May 26 20:39:00 maybe May 26 20:39:07 cause it was printed on the GPS chip itself hehe May 26 20:39:07 they made many usb gadgets May 26 20:39:20 hrw, oh, is that in the ipkg too? May 26 20:40:14 pl2303, indeed May 26 20:40:19 no. it shows that our kernel config need more entries May 26 20:40:39 so none of you got the ttyUSB0 ? May 26 20:40:50 cause thats what missing here, and calling that on pdaXrom worked just fine :x May 26 20:41:00 no, I don't have it May 26 20:41:10 oh ._. May 26 20:41:26 btw, is the tty thing just a file? May 26 20:41:28 well, we don't have a driver for this dongle May 26 20:41:54 are you sure its needed CoreDump|home? I mean, do you need a driver to get the ttyUSB0 ? May 26 20:41:58 Furre: 'everything on linux is a file' May 26 20:42:05 Furre: try modprobe usbserial May 26 20:42:30 didnt output an error atleast May 26 20:42:33 Furre: you need a driver to make that device of yours work. the driver will provide ttyUSB0 May 26 20:42:34 we need to get 2.6.21 from Poky in OE and test it May 26 20:42:53 CoreDump|home, oh, so copying ttyUSB0 from pdaXrom wouldnt work? :x May 26 20:42:57 Furre: did you get usbserial moun ted? May 26 20:43:02 Furre: heh, no May 26 20:43:06 summatusmentis, I dont know, didnt give an error May 26 20:43:09 CoreDump|home, okk ^^ May 26 20:43:14 ok, unplug and try it again May 26 20:43:31 summatusmentis, how will I know if it works or not? doing modprobe ohci-hcd dont give any output either o.o May 26 20:43:49 right, that means it loaded successfully May 26 20:43:57 oh, so there was a driver ?o.o May 26 20:44:01 unplug the gps, try again May 26 20:44:15 I have done so twice now summatusmentis :) May 26 20:44:22 lol, oh, sorry May 26 20:44:25 dmesg ? May 26 20:44:37 oh, again? sure May 26 20:46:27 http://ufos85.mine.nu/zaurus/dmesg3.txt May 26 20:46:28 there go May 26 20:46:41 what exactly are you looking for btw? *is curious* May 26 20:48:19 Furre: to be honest, I'm not sure... anything that says something about the gps being recognized :-D May 26 20:48:25 ah xD May 26 20:48:53 Ill try to CAT the ttyS's agian May 26 20:49:01 do you have a ttyUSB? May 26 20:49:47 summatusmentis, no, only tty0-63, and ttyS0-2 May 26 20:50:07 byt ttyS stands for serial right? o.o May 26 20:50:13 * CoreDump|afk feels a mayor headache coming up and goes to bed :\ May 26 20:50:19 was thinking maybe that usbserial things made it into a ttyS May 26 20:50:29 * Furre aws and tugs a blanket ontop of CoreDump|afk: sleep tight May 26 20:50:30 I think so... I don't know enough about serial stuff... May 26 20:51:21 ah, well, maybe the ttyUSB0 is what is missing, cause that was what was wroking on pdaXrom atleast May 26 20:51:45 hrm.... try '/etc/init.d/udev stop' May 26 20:51:53 files in /dev are auto-generated for all detected devices May 26 20:51:55 and then '/etc/init.d/udev start' May 26 20:52:01 okk May 26 20:52:03 CoreDump|afk: really? May 26 20:52:07 CoreDump|afk, oh o.o May 26 20:52:11 Furre: it might not do anything May 26 20:52:14 most of them, yes May 26 20:52:22 (via udev) May 26 20:52:35 hrm... personally, I'd try it anyway, but that's just me May 26 20:53:07 that udev did something to the CF card atleast o.o May 26 20:53:32 check see if there's a ttyUSB? May 26 20:53:39 didint exist, only same as before :/ May 26 20:53:44 hrm May 26 20:53:56 what are all the tty's btw? o.o May 26 20:54:20 I think the tty's are virtual consoles May 26 20:54:38 maybe Ill undestand that one day ^^ May 26 20:54:47 lol May 26 20:54:51 but its something to acess devices? May 26 20:55:01 honestly, I don't know May 26 20:55:05 hehe ^^ May 26 20:55:11 like I said, the world of serial is foreign to me May 26 20:55:16 Furre: on a side note, vi /etc/modutils/ohci-hcd, add ohci-hcd, then ':wq', then run update-modules, will make the ohci-hcd module load on boot May 26 20:56:45 oh, of one makes an empty file there, it autoloads? May 26 20:57:23 sorry, that wasn't clear, no, make an empty file, put the name of the module you want in the file, then run update-modules May 26 20:57:25 and it'll autoload May 26 20:57:33 summatusmentis: "echo ohci-hcd >/etc/modutils/ohci-hcd;update-modules" is easier May 26 20:57:40 okk May 26 20:57:58 hrw: you're probably right, but I couldn't remember the syntax for echo :-P May 26 20:58:21 ;D May 26 20:58:42 ^^ May 26 20:58:57 done alteast :) May 26 20:59:14 is it difficult to get the driver that makes the ttyUSB0 thing into Ångström? o.o May 26 20:59:16 and same for any other module, if you want it autoloaded May 26 20:59:33 summatusmentis, but different /modutils/name then? May 26 20:59:34 Furre: I really don't know why that's not there... seems like it should be May 26 20:59:41 Furre: yeah May 26 20:59:43 summatusmentis, but its not there for you either? May 26 20:59:48 hrw: does the name of the file matter? May 26 20:59:50 Furre: nope May 26 20:59:57 :x, maybe someone forgot to add it? :x May 26 21:00:51 I suppose it's possible, but it doesn't make much sense May 26 21:01:21 hmm, do you know whom here to ask about it? :) May 26 21:01:31 maybe thre is a perfectly good explenation ^^ May 26 21:02:17 well, I would've asked hrw, but it seems as though he thought it should work too May 26 21:02:23 summatusmentis: no May 26 21:02:23 so I'm not sure May 26 21:03:24 hrw, do you know if there is a reason for it not beeing there? :) May 26 21:05:06 no one submitted need? May 26 21:05:12 hmm, cant get the USB-memory in /media either May 26 21:05:19 hrw, oh, where do one do that? ^^ May 26 21:05:46 in bugtracker? May 26 21:06:43 oh, it counts as a bug? May 26 21:08:37 yes May 26 21:09:03 oh, needs an account, hmm, what should I write? I dont exactly know what it is that's not working :x May 26 21:09:45 then read bugzilla help May 26 21:16:20 should I write "missing driver for ttyUSB0" ? o.o May 26 21:18:30 Furre: I'd explain the steps you went through, what machine you have, the output of 'uname -a', the model of the dongle, output of 'lsusb', output of 'dmesg' May 26 21:18:36 give as much information as possible May 26 21:19:50 hmm, you mean that ttyUSB0 is specific to each device used? o.o May 26 21:22:49 Im just not sure what the exact problem is May 26 21:22:58 is it that is missing a usb-serial driver? May 26 21:23:04 it's not necessarily, but give as much info as possible May 26 21:23:08 I don't know either May 26 21:23:35 no clue what to write :x, but hmm May 26 21:23:54 like I said, give as much info as possible May 26 21:24:20 I reinstalled Ångström now May 26 21:24:24 reflash I mean May 26 21:24:30 and now I had ohci-hcd hah May 26 21:27:21 Ah! Demonic Makefile.in.in you! May 26 21:27:57 :)? May 26 21:28:10 summatusmentis, uhm, if I got the USB-memory to work, where will it be mounted? May 26 21:28:19 I've got a respawning Makefile.in.in in my OE tree May 26 21:28:22 or, were should it be rather? May 26 21:28:32 I'm not sure it'll be mounted May 26 21:28:46 oh, how did you access yours? May 26 21:28:57 hold on May 26 21:29:00 ok :) May 26 21:33:36 Furre: I can't get mine to mount now... May 26 21:33:50 aww ._. May 26 21:34:16 Furre: kernel-module-pl2303 is what you need May 26 21:34:23 hmm, Ive found a linuxdriver for PL2303, with a .c and a .h file, wouldnt one bne able to compile that? o.o May 26 21:34:32 hrw, but it doesnt exist in ångström yet? o.o May 26 21:43:36 hmm, now the CF-Wifi wont get status: ready again, is there a way to umount it? o.o May 26 21:46:41 * summatusmentis leaves for chinese May 26 21:46:54 foodtime? :) May 26 21:47:09 almost midnight here, pity @.@ May 26 21:52:10 wait... now its installing o.o, but didnt got installed before? o.o hmm, this sure is comfusing x.x May 26 21:52:37 maybe something more went bad in the previous reflash @.@ May 26 21:54:09 ITS WORKING! May 26 21:54:28 a reflash fixed the problem :3, defenetly something the installer did wrong last time May 26 22:13:12 might almost get it now :s May 26 22:13:26 getting Permission denied when using gpsd on /dev/ttyUSB0 May 26 22:19:36 * hrw goes to bed - see you guys May 26 22:22:51 same here, goodnight :) May 26 23:44:20 what are these /dev/usbdev things? May 27 01:31:14 Any GPE users about? May 27 01:32:23 yeah May 27 01:33:13 Are there any decent image viewers/web browsers for gpe? May 27 01:33:36 angstrom right? May 27 01:33:39 yep May 27 01:33:41 minimo works May 27 01:34:30 I don't know about image viewers, but minimo is the best browser available May 27 01:37:33 Cool, thanks May 27 01:37:41 sure thing **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 27 02:59:56 2007