**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 31 02:59:56 2007
May 31 07:22:00 <onion__> hm...
May 31 07:22:02 <onion__> hi
May 31 07:22:09 <Ikkakujyu> Howdy.
May 31 07:22:13 <onion__> ..^.^;
May 31 07:22:42 <onion__> i have a little question for angstrom... you know angstrom ?
May 31 07:22:52 <Ikkakujyu> A bit. I know more about Zaurii :D
May 31 07:23:21 <onion__> thank you. im korean. english a little... and im using C3100..^.^;
May 31 07:24:02 <onion__> my question is packaging.... i make a new package.. but now encountered error
May 31 07:24:10 <onion__> checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
May 31 07:24:10 <onion__> checking for GTK... yes
May 31 07:24:10 <onion__> checking for LIBHANGUL... Package libhangul was not found in the pkg-config search path.
May 31 07:24:10 <onion__> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libhangul.pc'
May 31 07:24:10 <onion__> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
May 31 07:24:11 <onion__> ....
May 31 07:24:44 <Ikkakujyu> Hmm, are you cross-compiling with Openembedded? Or are you compiling on the Zaurus?
May 31 07:25:08 <onion__> using angstrom and bitbake. in my linux env.
May 31 07:25:14 <onion__> (pc linux env)
May 31 07:25:37 <onion__> bitbake nabi...
May 31 07:26:01 <onion__> of course... pre make nabi_0.17.bb file
May 31 07:26:01 <Ikkakujyu> Well, have you tried installing libhangul manually?
May 31 07:26:09 <onion__> no
May 31 07:26:19 <onion__> ---------------------------------------------------
May 31 07:26:21 <onion__> DESCRIPTION = "Nabi is an easy and powerful GNU XIM"
May 31 07:26:21 <onion__> SECTION = "x11/input"
May 31 07:26:21 <onion__> DEPENDS = "gtk+ libhangul"
May 31 07:26:21 <onion__> LICENSE = "GPL"
May 31 07:26:22 <onion__> HOMEPAGE = "http://nabi.kldp.net/"
May 31 07:26:25 <onion__> PR = "r1"
May 31 07:26:27 <onion__> SRC_URI = "http://kldp.net/frs/download.php/3742/nabi-0.17.tar.gz"
May 31 07:26:29 <onion__> inherit autotools pkgconfig
May 31 07:26:31 <onion__> --------------------------------------------------------
May 31 07:26:32 <onion__> nabi bb file...
May 31 07:26:34 <onion__> T.T
May 31 07:27:28 <Ikkakujyu> Hmm, sometimes dependencies get screwed up... also it might be puting libhangul.pc in a weird spot, so try searching for it and moving to wherever PKG_CONFIG_PATH points to :D
May 31 07:27:50 <Ikkakujyu> And now I reboot :
May 31 07:27:52 <Ikkakujyu> :/
May 31 07:28:09 <onion__> hm... reboot......-.-;
May 31 07:30:45 <onion__> Ikkakujyu, howdy
May 31 07:30:47 <onion__> ^.^;
May 31 07:30:57 <Ikkakujyu> Any progress? :D
May 31 07:31:21 <onion__> nope.. spining my head.......hehe
May 31 07:31:30 <onion__> viewed other bb file
May 31 07:32:18 <onion__> thank you Ikkakujyu ....^.^
May 31 07:33:10 <Ikkakujyu> No problem :D
May 31 07:33:35 <onion__> :D
May 31 08:04:29 <onion__> hi.... 
May 31 08:04:31 <onion__> ....
May 31 08:04:38 <onion__> all user sleep...T.T
May 31 08:07:30 <Laibsch> onion__: Very interesting stuff
May 31 08:07:50 <Laibsch> We had another user yesterday who I believe was working on Korean support
May 31 08:07:57 <Laibsch> That wasn't you by chance?
May 31 08:08:18 <onion__> thank you....T.T
May 31 08:08:36 <onion__> hm.. but encoutered other error...-.-;
May 31 08:08:53 <onion__> NOTE: Resolving missing task queue dependencies
May 31 08:08:53 <onion__> ERROR: No buildable providers available for required build target libhangul
May 31 08:08:55 <onion__> ....-.-;
May 31 08:09:16 <onion__> why.. not run bitbake process..i don't know...T.T
May 31 08:09:59 <onion__> and.... i have other question... angstrom.. default not support XIM?
May 31 08:10:05 <XorA> WTF are you speaking morse?
May 31 08:10:45 <Laibsch> XorA: Please be patient, onion__'s native tongue is Korean, I suppose.
May 31 08:11:02 <Laibsch> XorA: Maybe you prefer to continue in Korean ;-)
May 31 08:11:28 <onion__> you read korean?
May 31 08:11:36 <XorA> Laibsch: no matter the language, millions of extraneous ...--..-..-..--..-.-.---- makes it hard to read
May 31 08:11:38 <Laibsch> Unfortunately, no
May 31 08:11:51 <onion__> ah.. ok... understand...^.^;
May 31 08:11:56 <Laibsch> XorA: I believe that is the equivalent of our smileys
May 31 08:12:08 <Laibsch> The are much more logicak
May 31 08:12:13 <Laibsch> logical
May 31 08:12:19 <Laibsch> ours are sideways
May 31 08:12:26 <Laibsch> The asian ones are straight up
May 31 08:12:30 <Laibsch> : - )
May 31 08:12:39 <Laibsch> -> tilt your head 90 degrees
May 31 08:12:46 <Laibsch> ^.^
May 31 08:12:57 <Laibsch> is eye - nose/mouth - eye
May 31 08:13:05 <Laibsch> XorA: I find them cute
May 31 08:13:16 <XorA> Laibsch: I know that one, the french use it all the time as well
May 31 08:13:18 <Laibsch> onion__: I speak 日本語
May 31 08:13:22 <koen> my irc client converts them to asian girls automagically
May 31 08:13:32 <Laibsch> onion__: but not as native tongue either
May 31 08:13:46 <XorA> ....-.-; I dont get/cant see though
May 31 08:13:48 * Laibsch thinks koen is a lucky bastard ;-)
May 31 08:13:48 <onion__> huk..nihongo.... 
May 31 08:13:50 <onion__> ..^.^
May 31 08:14:02 <onion__> http://onionmixer.net/onionmixer_new.php4?pname=bitbake_memo
May 31 08:14:11 <onion__> my bitbake file...
May 31 08:14:11 <Laibsch> XorA: They are very complicated and I don't understand them
May 31 08:14:29 <Laibsch> onion__: I think the best I can advise you is to share your work through the bug tracker
May 31 08:14:35 <onion__> but not run bitmake process
May 31 08:14:37 <XorA> Laibsch: so it seems they are like the MSN smileys where they only work when you graphicise them
May 31 08:14:50 <Laibsch> onion__: I will try to compile them and help you with getting them in the correct form
May 31 08:14:51 <onion__> ah... angstrom bug tracker?
May 31 08:15:18 <Laibsch> XorA: No, this is something they have used for years and know the meaning.
May 31 08:15:44 <onion__> i not think that's way.... Q gogo tracker..^.^
May 31 08:15:45 <Laibsch> XorA: Give : - ) to your Grandma and she probably would not know how to read/interpret
May 31 08:15:58 <Laibsch> XorA: A little more cultural awareness, please ;-)
May 31 08:16:07 <koen> Laibsch: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/~koen/smiley.png
May 31 08:16:22 <Laibsch> onion__: bugs.openembedded.org
May 31 08:16:23 <XorA> Laibsch: Im gonna turn round and hate yah in a minute :-p
May 31 08:16:34 <Laibsch> oh shit!
May 31 08:16:37 <onion__> huk... emoticon......sorry......T.T
May 31 08:17:17 <Laibsch> onion__: You should be aware that nobody understands the meaning of your smileys around here.  We are ignorant ;-)
May 31 08:17:40 <XorA> onion__: or give us a link to the explanations
May 31 08:17:51 <Laibsch> koen: I am impressed!
May 31 08:17:58 <onion__> i'm first visit international channel.... sorry.....
May 31 08:18:05 <XorA> here is a smiley I came up with for BDSM @/_\ (hogtied)
May 31 08:18:14 <Laibsch> onion__: よろしく
May 31 08:18:15 <onion__> nowadays im only korean irc channel....
May 31 08:18:19 <Laibsch> onion__: Welcome
May 31 08:18:21 <XorA> onion__: no need to be sorry, its all fun
May 31 08:18:27 <onion__> yorosiku... ok...
May 31 08:18:28 <Laibsch> onion__: I hope you don't mind the Japanese
May 31 08:18:41 <onion__> XorA, nono.. im sorry 
May 31 08:19:09 <XorA> onion__: is there a pain that converts your smileys to pictures, I am interested now
May 31 08:19:14 <XorA> s/pain/page/
May 31 08:19:20 <XorA> god I cant type
May 31 08:19:29 <onion__> Laibsch, ah.. li very like animation... japanese a little.........(only read..-.-)
May 31 08:20:15 <Laibsch> XorA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon
May 31 08:20:21 <onion__> XorA, tnankyou..... many korean using emoticon differ english emoticon....-.-;
May 31 08:20:39 <Laibsch> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon#East_Asian_style
May 31 08:20:55 <onion__> huk... asian...style...-.-;
May 31 08:21:39 <onion__> im usding xchat... xchat not convert display emoticon to EMOT-ICON...
May 31 08:21:44 <onion__> (using....)
May 31 08:21:54 <Laibsch> Ask koen what he uses
May 31 08:22:09 <Laibsch> He seems to be more advanced into Korean emoticon that you, onion__ ;-)
May 31 08:22:10 <koen> colloquy (mac)
May 31 08:22:21 <XorA> http://www.anikaos.com/japanese_emoticons.html wicked :-D
May 31 08:22:38 <onion__> colloquy is good. but program is heavy...
May 31 08:23:32 <koen> I like (ò_ô)
May 31 08:23:34 <Laibsch> onion__: It is cool to see Angstrom picking up in Korea
May 31 08:23:46 * XorA tried to teach Samsung OE
May 31 08:23:48 <onion__> last one question....................... angstrom devel question not send this channel?
May 31 08:23:50 <Laibsch> XorA: Told you ;-)
May 31 08:24:00 <Laibsch> XorA: And you were just about to turn around.
May 31 08:24:07 <koen> XorA: try with LG ;)
May 31 08:24:16 <Laibsch> XorA: Our emoticons are really shitty compared to what they can do
May 31 08:24:23 <XorA> Laibsch: I can still find no definition of ....-.-;
May 31 08:24:29 <Laibsch> onion__: Either here or #oe
May 31 08:24:30 <onion__> Laibsch, i. hope... but so hard.. im conputer newbie...
May 31 08:24:37 <Laibsch> onion__: This used to be dev channel
May 31 08:24:40 <XorA> koen: if we get Samsung LG will copy, if we get LG, Samsung wont touch
May 31 08:24:49 <onion__> Laibsch, ah.. OE channel? thankyou..T.T
May 31 08:24:50 <koen> ah, right
May 31 08:24:50 <XorA> koen: that is how the two companies work
May 31 08:24:56 <Laibsch> onion__: But it will eventually turn more into a user support channel after release
May 31 08:25:17 <Laibsch> onion__: We already see a bit of that effect with the announcement of OpenZaurus death
May 31 08:25:30 <onion__> hm...
May 31 08:25:56 <Laibsch> onion__: It would be cool if you acted as ambassador
May 31 08:26:07 <Laibsch> onion__: We are more than willing to teach you
May 31 08:26:39 <Laibsch> onion__: It would be supercool if you continued your wiki work and spread the word about OE/Angstrom in Korea
May 31 08:26:44 * koen ponders about turning off all non-utf8 locales in glibc
May 31 08:26:59 <koen> it seems a bit wastefull to have <foo> and <foo>_UTF8
May 31 08:26:59 <XorA> koen: sounds good :-)
May 31 08:27:18 <koen> afaics every locale has an utf8 variant
May 31 08:27:29 <Laibsch> onion__: I will be going on a business trip from this afternoon
May 31 08:27:35 <Laibsch> Please be sure to hang around
May 31 08:27:46 <Laibsch> onion__: I'll be back on Sunday.  Catch me then
May 31 08:27:47 <onion__> Laibsch, i hope too.. bot not understand bitbake system.... muy desktop is gentoo.... but bitbake many differ...-.-;
May 31 08:27:49 * XorA needs to get to Korea on a trip soon
May 31 08:27:57 <onion__> Laibsch, ah~ ..good job..^.^
May 31 08:28:12 * koen hides in XorAs luggage to sneak along
May 31 08:28:16 <Laibsch> @all: Can you please try to compile http://onionmixer.net/onionmixer_new.php4?pname=bitbake_memo
May 31 08:28:20 <onion__> Laibsch, thankyou..^.^
May 31 08:28:40 <onion__> huk.... THANK YOU Laibsch ..T.T
May 31 08:29:12 <koen> replace 'glib' with 'glib-2.0' and remove 'glibc'
May 31 08:29:19 <Laibsch> onion__: bitbake and OE supposedly is a lot like gentoo (I don't know, never used it)
May 31 08:29:34 <onion__> angstrom people is good people
May 31 08:29:49 <Laibsch> onion__: I think koen's last comment was for you
May 31 08:30:05 <onion__> Laibsch, really? :D
May 31 08:30:12 <Laibsch> yes
May 31 08:30:16 <Laibsch> just a minute
May 31 08:30:28 <onion__> koen ah.. ok
May 31 08:30:32 <Laibsch> DEPENDS = "gtk+ glib-2.0"
May 31 08:30:37 <Laibsch> is better
May 31 08:31:09 <Laibsch> onion__: There is good documentation (only English, sorry)
May 31 08:31:12 <onion__> good!!! koen! succed compile this package...T.T
May 31 08:31:15 <onion__> Laibsch, nonono
May 31 08:31:18 <onion__> ..^.^
May 31 08:32:05 <Laibsch> onion__: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/MainPage for everything, feel free to contribute. Korean pages would be SUPERCOOL!
May 31 08:32:29 <Laibsch> http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual for understanding bitbake, OE and the concepts a bit better
May 31 08:32:45 <Laibsch> onion__: Compilation succeeded?  Awesome
May 31 08:32:52 <Laibsch> Let me know if it works
May 31 08:33:00 * Laibsch cannot wait for a screenshot
May 31 08:33:03 <onion__> ok succed.. im next package try now..@.@
May 31 08:33:22 <Laibsch> OK, I'll commit your package to OE then
May 31 08:33:54 <onion__> libhangul is only library.. nabi is korean famous XIM.... maybe canna same
May 31 08:34:22 <onion__> hm.. next package is encounterd error... needs hangul.h include libhangl... 
May 31 08:34:42 <Laibsch> onion__: is libhangul, well, a lib?
May 31 08:34:57 <Laibsch> onion__: Ever used SCIM?
May 31 08:35:14 <Freak_NL> Laibsch: I am planning to build scim-hangul as well as scim-anthy
May 31 08:35:14 <Laibsch> I tried to compile, but compilation drags on forever.
May 31 08:35:33 <koen> http://rafb.net/p/9pzSvS18.html
May 31 08:35:34 <Freak_NL> libhangul is also a dependancy for scim-hangul
May 31 08:35:38 <Laibsch> Freak_NL compiled scim successfully
May 31 08:35:42 <Freak_NL> ah!
May 31 08:35:45 <Freak_NL> took a while :)
May 31 08:35:56 <Laibsch> Freak_NL: No, I still did not
May 31 08:36:01 <Laibsch> you did!
May 31 08:36:13 <koen> onion__: http://rafb.net/p/9pzSvS18.html
May 31 08:36:17 <onion__> Yes lib.. libhangul package build success..... libhangul.pc file insclude package.. but not include files in libhangul...
May 31 08:36:18 <Laibsch> Compilation is still not finished
May 31 08:36:21 <onion__> hm... 
May 31 08:36:35 <Freak_NL> lol, I read your line as  "Freak_NL: compiled scim successfull"
May 31 08:36:37 <onion__> Laibsch, SCIM.. not natually input korean
May 31 08:36:43 <Laibsch> onion__: Please open a bug ticket for libhangul
May 31 08:36:45 <koen> Laibsch: sounds like you need more RAM
May 31 08:36:57 <Laibsch> koen: 640MB
May 31 08:37:07 <Laibsch> no GUI on the machine, nothing much else
May 31 08:37:11 <koen> Laibsch: i suspect it's swapping like crazy
May 31 08:37:16 <onion__> koen huk.. so fast...~.~
May 31 08:37:31 <Laibsch> koen: Swap is hardly used
May 31 08:37:53 <koen> Laibsch: I had a machine on the university that too a week to parse all bitbake files
May 31 08:37:59 <Freak_NL> onion__: are you Korean?
May 31 08:38:00 <koen> just because bitbake uses 400MB ram
May 31 08:38:24 <onion__> Laibsch, bitbake file.................................... inherit "pkgconfig" include pkgconfig file.... do you know header file function?
May 31 08:38:33 <onion__> Freak_NL,yes... im korean...@.@
May 31 08:38:35 <Laibsch> koen: remember my first attempt at OE?  P1 100 MHz with 128MB RAM when it still needed a GIG ;-)
May 31 08:39:05 <Freak_NL> onion__: nice! I'm going to Seoul in august. Good to have some else working on Korean input as well
May 31 08:39:08 * koen ran bitbake and OE on a 266MHz/32MB ram machine for a while
May 31 08:39:09 <onion__> Freak_NL, you hate korean? (joke)
May 31 08:39:17 <Laibsch> onion__: Freak_NL is the one that built scim.  And I believe he speaks Korean.  So you guys work out libhangul so we can commit it
May 31 08:39:19 <onion__> ah.. august?
May 31 08:39:37 <Freak_NL> I try to speak Korean, I have an exam in a few hours for that :)
May 31 08:39:56 <onion__> i hipe it.....%.%
May 31 08:40:03 <Freak_NL> onion__: I'm going to Kyonghi university to participate in a three week course
May 31 08:40:11 <Freak_NL> learning the language a bit better
May 31 08:40:16 <onion__> ah.. university across course?
May 31 08:40:28 <Freak_NL> a programme for Europeans
May 31 08:40:48 <Freak_NL> I'm a student of Japanology here in the Netherlands
May 31 08:41:01 <onion__> ah.. program course?.... great..!
May 31 08:41:51 <Freak_NL> what do you use with libhangul for Korean input? I use SCIM because it allows the user to switch easily between Western langauge, Japanese and Korean
May 31 08:42:58 <onion__> Laibsch, i beleave support this channel.. but im maked libhangul & nabi package before visit korea Freak_NL 
May 31 08:43:17 <Freak_NL> nabi?
May 31 08:43:27 <onion__> Freak_NL, firest.. SCIM is heavy.... second.. now naturally
May 31 08:43:31 <onion__> yes nabi
May 31 08:43:53 <Freak_NL> onion__: It is probably best that users have a choice :)
May 31 08:44:15 <onion__> Freak_NL, thanks.. im hope angstrom korean version.....^>^
May 31 08:44:25 <Freak_NL> for Japanese, SCIM also integrates with Tomoe (character drawing input)
May 31 08:44:51 <onion__> ah.. understand... 
May 31 08:44:54 <Freak_NL> nabi is a Korean IME?
May 31 08:45:00 <onion__> XIM IME..^.^
May 31 08:45:15 <Freak_NL> only XIM or also GTK and QT?
May 31 08:45:21 <onion__> second hope... angstrom default kdrive support XIM support
May 31 08:45:40 <onion__> XIM... but using GTK2 toolkit
May 31 08:46:01 <onion__> but qt using not problem
May 31 08:46:04 <Freak_NL> I can test it if you have a working version
May 31 08:46:34 <onion__> Freak_NL, but im bb file worked now...T.T
May 31 08:47:27 <onion__> i make libhangul bb file... but incldue libhangul header file in libhangul package... not found way...
May 31 08:47:57 <onion__> now status... only include...... libfiles and pkgconfig files...
May 31 08:48:08 <Freak_NL> have you run the staging task?
May 31 08:49:19 <onion__> hm...staging task?
May 31 08:49:57 <onion__> http://onionmixer.net/onionmixer_new.php4?pname=bitbake_memo
May 31 08:50:05 <Freak_NL> yes, that places files other packages (like nabi) need to build on in the staging area
May 31 08:50:09 <onion__> ..im using single_ang.sh file
May 31 08:50:37 <onion__> hm.. of course.. im aleady tested angstrom-x11-image 
May 31 08:50:53 <onion__> (and maked angstrom-x11-image)
May 31 08:51:39 <onion__> i want libhangle header file(ex: hangul.h) in libhangle package
May 31 08:51:53 <Freak_NL> it should go in the libhangul-dev package
May 31 08:52:01 <onion__> ah...
May 31 08:52:06 <Freak_NL> and, it should be placed in staging (automatically)
May 31 08:52:47 <Freak_NL> add this in you bb file:
May 31 08:52:49 <Freak_NL> http://pastebin.ca/525229
May 31 08:53:34 <Freak_NL> that places the header file in the staging area in your build environment, then when you built nabi, it can find it there
May 31 08:53:39 <onion__> linhangul bb file?
May 31 08:53:46 <Freak_NL> yes
May 31 08:53:54 <onion__> ok wait..
May 31 08:54:47 <onion__> .........
May 31 08:55:47 <Freak_NL> you can check what files go in what package (header files should go in libhangul-dev) by looking in build/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libhangul-0.0.4/install
May 31 08:56:39 <onion__> Freak_NL, ...sorry.. im one more question.... aleady succed build libhangul package... after edited libhangul bb file..... 
May 31 08:57:15 <onion__> not retry libhangle compile... maybe using cache.... 
May 31 08:57:30 <Freak_NL> bitbake -c clean libhangul
May 31 08:57:31 <onion__> i want cache pass compile try...
May 31 08:57:39 <onion__> ah.. clean...
May 31 08:57:41 <Freak_NL> cleans the cache
May 31 08:57:56 <onion__> thank you.. i tryed -f...T.T
May 31 08:57:58 <onion__> ok waut
May 31 08:59:58 <koen> or -c rebuild
May 31 08:59:59 <onion__> Freak_NL, you angstrom developer?
May 31 09:00:11 <Freak_NL> just a user :)
May 31 09:00:24 <onion__> unbeleave..-.-+
May 31 09:00:29 <onion__> ok
May 31 09:00:29 <Freak_NL> but I try to build Japanese and Korean input packages
May 31 09:00:40 <koen> Freak_NL: do you have a patch for psplash to add the compas logo?
May 31 09:00:42 <onion__> nabi compile is succed! good!!
May 31 09:00:49 <onion__> NOTE: Running task 834 of 834 (ID: 11, /root/zaurus/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/nabi/nabi_0.17.bb, do_build)
May 31 09:00:49 <onion__> NOTE: package nabi-0.17: started
May 31 09:00:49 <onion__> NOTE: package nabi-0.17-r0: task do_build: started
May 31 09:00:49 <onion__> NOTE: package nabi-0.17-r0: task do_build: completed
May 31 09:00:49 <onion__> NOTE: package nabi-0.17: completed
May 31 09:00:51 <onion__> NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 834 tasks of which 827 didn't need to be rerun and 0 failed.
May 31 09:00:53 <onion__> NOTE: build 200705310859: completed
May 31 09:01:01 <onion__> Freak_NL, thankyou freak...T.T
May 31 09:01:06 <Freak_NL> koen: somewhere, yes, but I have to check it
May 31 09:01:28 <Freak_NL> koen: I have to get back to you on that, I have to prepare for an exam now
May 31 09:01:54 <onion__> Freak_NL, now turn on my ZAURUS...heh
May 31 09:02:00 <koen> Freak_NL: good luck
May 31 09:02:22 <onion__> Freak_NL, ah.. freak... korean ro august?
May 31 09:02:36 <Freak_NL> yes :)
May 31 09:02:44 <Freak_NL> from august 3 to 25
May 31 09:03:03 <onion__> onionmixer at gmail.com                            or             onion at linux.sarang.net
May 31 09:03:11 <onion__> please send email..^.^
May 31 09:03:54 <Freak_NL> will do
May 31 09:04:02 <Freak_NL> 시험이 인데 대학에 가야 해요.
May 31 09:04:06 <Freak_NL> 안녕히계세요.
May 31 09:04:33 <hrw> nice chars
May 31 09:04:46 <Freak_NL> never know if that works with IRC
May 31 09:05:01 <Freak_NL> no Charset-Encoding headers
May 31 09:05:53 <onion__> Freak_NL, 오... 대학 다녀오세요....^.^
May 31 09:05:58 <onion__> (....supprise..-.-)
May 31 09:06:18 <Freak_NL> ^.^
May 31 09:06:29 <onion__> good job~
May 31 09:06:35 <Freak_NL> see you later
May 31 09:06:41 <onion__> Freak_NL, your GMT..is...?
May 31 09:06:45 <Freak_NL> GMT?
May 31 09:06:50 <onion__> timezone
May 31 09:06:55 <Freak_NL> CET
May 31 09:06:58 <onion__> korea is GMT+9
May 31 09:07:04 <Freak_NL> Central European Time (Netherlands)
May 31 09:07:10 <Freak_NL> GMT+1
May 31 09:07:13 <onion__> oh....
May 31 09:07:24 <onion__> PM 2:06?
May 31 09:07:31 <Freak_NL> 11:08 AM
May 31 09:07:31 <onion__> ....AM 11...-.-;
May 31 09:07:36 <Laibsch> OK, guys.  I committed libhangul to OE.  Play with it and improve it.  http://bugs.openembedded.org is open.
May 31 09:07:37 <onion__> okok hehe
May 31 09:07:51 <onion__> Laibsch, wait..@@
May 31 09:07:56 <Freak_NL> Laibsch: great, I'll check it out later too
May 31 09:08:01 <Freak_NL> I'm gone now :)
May 31 09:09:01 <onion__> Laibsch, http://onionmixer.net/~onion/ie.tar
May 31 09:09:18 <onion__> Laibsch, libhangle and nabi .........bb file..^.^;
May 31 09:09:35 <onion__> please this files commited....^.^
May 31 09:10:09 <onion__> huk.. sorry
May 31 09:10:12 <onion__> Laibsch, http://onionmixer.net/~onion/oe.tar
May 31 09:10:14 <onion__> .....-.-;
May 31 09:18:14 <hrw> onion__: we have bugtracker
May 31 09:18:27 <hrw> report new bug, add files into it
May 31 09:18:43 <hrw> preferred way is "mtn diff" output
May 31 09:19:07 <onion__> mtn diff?
May 31 09:20:30 <onion__> hrw, hm.. using "diff" program.. or mtn have diff function?
May 31 09:20:47 <hrw> mtn has diff function
May 31 09:21:05 <hrw> you need to copy your files into OE metadata and 'mtn add' them
May 31 09:21:29 <onion__> ok.. i study it.............. im angstrom use 2 day.. now...~.~;
May 31 09:21:40 <onion__> sorry...T.T
May 31 09:21:45 <hrw> and first contribution - great
May 31 09:22:21 <hrw> how to notice does you talk with Asian - he use anime like smileys *.* etc..
May 31 09:22:30 <onion__> question.... root@spitz:~$ ipkg install nabi-locale-ko_0.17-r0_armv5te.ipk 
May 31 09:22:30 <onion__> Installing nabi-locale-ko (0.17-r0) to root...
May 31 09:22:30 <onion__> Nothing to be done
May 31 09:22:30 <onion__> An error ocurred, return value: 1.
May 31 09:22:30 <onion__> Collected errors:
May 31 09:22:31 <onion__> ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for nabi-locale-ko:
May 31 09:22:33 <onion__>          virtual-locale-ko
May 31 09:22:35 <onion__> ...
May 31 09:22:37 <onion__> why not install?
May 31 09:24:23 <onion__> im not understand virtual..... ipkg virtual differnce gentoo virtual
May 31 09:24:52 <koen> I think you need to add http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/locales/ko/ to your feeds
May 31 09:24:57 <koen> (I'm not sure, though_
May 31 09:25:04 <Laibsch> onion__: http://blog.leggewie.org/?p=16
May 31 09:25:51 <Laibsch> onion__: Send me screenshots please
May 31 09:25:54 <onion__> Laibsch, huk... thank you..^.^
May 31 09:26:07 <Laibsch> hrw: We need to explain that mtn diff stuff once and for all in the wiki
May 31 09:26:16 <onion__> Laibsch, ok.. wait... im install compiled package....^.^
May 31 09:26:23 <Laibsch> hrw: I won't have time to do it before Sunday, though
May 31 09:26:38 <Laibsch> hrw: And by then I'll have forgotten it probably
May 31 09:47:24 <Laibsch> ibot: mtndiff is The best way to get files added into OpenEmbedded is to "find packages/$projectdir -exec mtn add {} ;\ ; mtn diff packages/$projectdir > /tmp/mtndiff.patch" from within your OR directory.  Please attach go to http://bugs.openembedded.org then, open a new ticket and attach /tmp/mtndiff.patch to it.
May 31 09:47:44 <Laibsch> @all Feel free to improve the wording.
May 31 09:48:03 <Laibsch> The oneliner is untested but I guess it should work
May 31 09:48:42 <Laibsch> Why no ibot here?
May 31 09:51:38 <onion__> m
May 31 09:51:40 <onion__> hm
May 31 09:51:56 <onion__> Laibsch, nabi run succed but display message...
May 31 09:52:25 <onion__> now locale not supported from nabi. 
May 31 09:52:47 <onion__> now locale set :: ANSI_X3.4-1968
May 31 09:52:47 <onion__> ...
May 31 09:53:13 <onion__> but im set locale....................... LANG and LC_ALL set to ko_KR.UTF-8
May 31 09:56:21 <Laibsch> Sorry, I cannot be more help.  I really have to run now.
May 31 09:56:35 <onion__> go to home?
May 31 09:56:52 <Laibsch> Do you have proper fonts installed?  (although I think your problem is different)
May 31 09:57:05 <Laibsch> I guess your best bet is to wait for Freak_NL to return
May 31 09:57:21 <Laibsch> He can actually read your message if you provide a screenshot
May 31 09:57:23 <onion__> profer font?                not.. im installed Un-fonts(free korean font)
May 31 09:57:26 <Laibsch> You know about scap?
May 31 09:57:30 <onion__> Laibsch, scap?
May 31 09:57:39 <onion__> i dont know
May 31 09:57:43 <Laibsch> onion__: That is a UTF-8 font?
May 31 09:57:44 <XorA> Laibsch: scap is broken
May 31 09:57:50 <Laibsch> Oh?
May 31 09:57:52 <onion__> Laibsch, yes.. utf-8 font
May 31 09:58:01 <Laibsch> XorA: Who broke it?
May 31 09:58:12 <XorA> Laibsch: what ever distro runs on l2g
May 31 09:58:38 <XorA> Laibsch: koen said something like tickle.php isnt doing its job
May 31 09:59:52 <Laibsch> onion__: scap is a console program.  It takes a screenshot on your device and uploads it to http://scap.linuxtogo.org
May 31 10:00:06 <Laibsch> onion__: But apparently non-functional at the moment
May 31 10:00:27 <onion__> ah... Laibsch dont worry... im using degital camera.... hehe
May 31 10:00:34 <Laibsch> onion__: You could use it to share screenshots with others.  To help you troubleshoot for example
May 31 10:00:44 <Laibsch> onion__: Well, that always works ;-)
May 31 10:00:56 <onion__> thank you~
May 31 10:01:16 <Laibsch> de nada
May 31 10:01:20 <Laibsch> no problem
May 31 10:02:28 <onion__> ok... locale problem now last... ^.^
May 31 10:03:22 <onion__> hm.. 
May 31 10:03:42 <onion__> Laibsch, angstrom not support unicode locale?
May 31 10:03:57 <koen> XorA: gpe-scap seems to send wrong headers or something like that
May 31 10:05:44 <Laibsch> onion__: It should
May 31 10:07:38 <onion__> hm... ko_KR.eucKR is succed... but ko_KR.UTF-8 not succed..-.-;
May 31 10:07:45 <onion__> (oh no)
May 31 10:16:47 <XorA> koen: time for Kscap :-)
May 31 10:18:14 <onion__> XorA, ....do you know UTF-8 support?
May 31 10:18:37 <XorA> onion__: Im in the UK so no :-)
May 31 10:19:05 <onion__> ah... ok thankyou..:D
May 31 10:31:18 <onion__> 더허
May 31 10:31:23 <onion__> a.. sorry
May 31 12:07:41 * XorA looks eagerly at the IDE interface for his ZX Spectrum
May 31 12:10:44 <hrw> XorA: how fast it is?
May 31 12:11:06 <XorA> hrw: no idea, hut ZX bus speed is well slower than IDE speed anyway
May 31 12:11:24 <XorA> hrw: and as I cannot find a source for russian clones
May 31 12:11:28 <hrw> 8bit Atari do ~50-80KB/s
May 31 12:11:30 <XorA> hrw: it is best I can do
May 31 13:00:03 <XorA> hmm, have build an angstrom image and run the machine for almost 20 hours without a wierd segfault, good signs
May 31 13:01:09 <koen> so the ram seems to work?
May 31 13:01:33 <XorA> better than what was in it anyway
May 31 13:01:52 * XorA is happy he can keep his shuttle and not buy a boring dell
May 31 13:07:46 <XorA> now just nvidia tv-out to fixup so I can put my nvidia card back in the machine
May 31 13:08:02 * XorA really wants a cheap usb->composite adapter
May 31 13:13:08 <dcordes> somebody heard about CoreDump|afk having progress on gspca in angstrom?
May 31 13:13:32 <XorA> dcordes: not since he logged bug to fix mplayer
May 31 13:13:34 <dcordes> i'm very interested in the status of that because I would like to test
May 31 13:13:59 <dcordes> XorA, he told me about that. maybe he was able to test it with a different program
May 31 13:14:12 <dcordes> like camorama or so
May 31 13:14:37 * koen hints at v4l2apps
May 31 13:14:55 <dcordes> XorA, do you think this will be integrated in the images? (v4l and gsoca) if it will work well?
May 31 13:15:00 <XorA> koen: gpcsa last I checked doesnt do v4l2
May 31 13:15:16 <koen> how last year
May 31 13:15:44 * XorA has a trust webcam that uses that chipset
May 31 13:15:46 <dcordes> CoreDump|afk, said at least the cam was recognized and gspca module was able to modprobe
May 31 13:15:56 <XorA> or maybe that was just the debian wierdos
May 31 13:16:06 <dcordes> wierdos? ^^ what's that
May 31 13:16:16 <koen> weirdos spelled wrong ;)
May 31 13:16:31 <dcordes> ah i see
May 31 13:16:34 <XorA> extra weird weirdos
May 31 13:16:39 <dcordes> ^^
May 31 13:16:57 <dcordes> but CoreDump|afk didn't try v4l2 but v4l, didn't he?
May 31 13:17:18 <XorA> dcordes: hopefully at weekend Ill get time to look for 30 mins or so
May 31 13:18:02 <dcordes> that would be nice. I think there are many people with gspca supported cams out there who would appreaciate that
May 31 13:18:41 <dcordes> Do you know when you will release the next akita images?
May 31 13:19:13 <XorA> dcordes: you pay koen 20E or so
May 31 13:19:38 <koen> the idea was that mentors upload images themselves
May 31 13:19:56 <XorA> koen: turn down the money if you wish :-)
May 31 13:19:56 <dcordes> seriously, if I wouldn't got to school and earn money I would donate a bit ^^
May 31 13:21:43 <dcordes> is there much work remaining until you will go stable?
May 31 13:22:25 * XorA feels stable now
May 31 13:22:40 <koen> see http://bugs.openembedded.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1573&hide_resolved=0
May 31 13:22:42 <XorA> apart from the icon for my keyboard disappearing
May 31 13:23:31 <koen> someone posted a fix for the tosa suspend resume, that should get committed
May 31 13:24:24 <koen> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2007-May/000313.html
May 31 13:48:21 <Crofton> koen, can you go ahead and list me as the omap5912osk mentor
May 31 13:51:42 <koen> done
May 31 13:51:51 <Crofton> thanks
May 31 14:02:45 <Crofton> Hopefully we can add DV EVM and SFF SDR board at some point
May 31 14:03:10 <koen> yeah
May 31 14:03:41 <Crofton> I pinged rishi again, but he is traveling
May 31 18:59:34 <lindenle> how  do i configure  ipkg to reach the anstrom feeds i.e.  what is the addressfor  c7x0?
May 31 19:01:11 <lindenle> If someone tells me I will edit the wiki :)
May 31 19:01:50 <Ikkakujyu> edit /etc/ipkg.conf and add a url to one of the feeds on the Angstrom frontpage :D
May 31 19:04:05 <koen> no
May 31 19:04:13 <koen> everything is already preconfigures
May 31 19:04:18 <koen> preconfigured*
May 31 19:04:54 <Ikkakujyu> Should be, unless you're trying to point a different distro.
May 31 19:05:03 <Ikkakujyu> Which won't work if it's not EABI enabled.
May 31 19:05:09 <lindenle> Ikkakujyu: I dont see the feeds?
May 31 19:05:59 <Ikkakujyu> http://angstrom-distribution.org/unstable
May 31 19:06:03 <lindenle> ok
May 31 19:06:10 <koen> just stay out of /etc/ipkg*
May 31 19:06:20 <Ikkakujyu> The feed you want is armv5te... but it should already be configured :/
May 31 19:06:30 <lindenle> :( im using poky right now
May 31 19:07:01 <koen> so install angstrom
May 31 19:09:05 <lindenle> maybe
May 31 19:09:07 <lindenle> :)
May 31 19:23:10 <ljp> sorry, you dont have permission to use the term "ipkg"
May 31 19:24:28 <koen> :)
May 31 19:24:29 <ljp> all disparages will be handled by the "community counsel"
May 31 19:26:02 <koen> where "you are pushing the limits of acceptable behavior, please see our code of conduct" read "Shit, you are right, so I have to shut you up by abusing my power"
May 31 19:26:40 <ljp> i wonder who reviews the conduct reviewers conduct?
May 31 19:27:29 <koen> easy, every seat of power is occupied by george
May 31 19:28:46 <ljp> I also wonder who could ever think hh.org is not a hosting site
May 31 19:29:04 <koen> that's easy again: george
May 31 19:29:25 <koen> and his brain washed minions russ and erik
May 31 19:29:25 * RP wanders off to trademark "Angstrom Distribution"...
May 31 19:30:24 <RP> Russ is very strange...
May 31 19:31:20 <koen> ok, so with angstrom: where "community" read "richard purdie"
May 31 19:31:31 * koen adds that to the opensource phrasebook
May 31 19:36:24 <RP> I should go and trademark a few random other projects too...
May 31 19:37:05 <koen> like "linux", since rpsys.net is not a hosting service ;)
May 31 19:45:45 <ljp> there's 204 trademarks that have to word "linux" in them
May 31 19:47:43 <ljp> in the US
May 31 19:47:45 <ljp> :)
May 31 19:49:06 <koen> has anyone asked why he only trademarked a small subset of the 'hosted' projects?
May 31 19:51:52 <ljp> probably cause they cost 375 each
May 31 19:52:44 <koen> by his logic matchbox, oe and rosetta  should be trademarked as well
May 31 19:54:24 * koen isn't going to ask
May 31 19:56:08 <RP> koen: I would just keep quiet ;-)
May 31 19:56:35 <koen> trying to :)
May 31 20:20:04 <pht_> ERROR:  Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration. Please install following missing utilities: git
May 31 20:20:09 <pht_> :-o
May 31 20:22:32 <pht_> that's because of mozilla? ;)
May 31 22:44:16 <CoreDump|home> re
May 31 22:46:31 <Ikkakujyu> Haldo.
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