**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 08 02:59:56 2007
Jun 08 04:05:40 <carbonfreeze> anyone attempted to install gnumeric on 20070604? I'm getting md5sum errors from ipkg. report as bug or?
Jun 08 05:04:53 <pht_> is there any plan to go tickless in angstrom kernel?
Jun 08 05:11:00 <carbonfreeze> did somebody break ipkg recently? getting lots of md5sum errors when attempting to install apps (gnumeric, mplayer, python-libs...) I've tried updating, deleting /var/lib/ipkg contents with little change...
Jun 08 05:30:48 <pht_> carbonfreeze: send it to the bugtracker
Jun 08 08:38:10 <carbonfreeze> anyone available to help verify a possible ipkg feed issue with a spitz? I want to make sure its not my machine
Jun 08 08:39:21 <XorA> carbonfreeze: whats up
Jun 08 08:40:00 <carbonfreeze> XorA: having an issue installing gnumeric via ipkg install gnumeric; getting ipkg md5sum errors and want to make sure its not one of my net cables or somesuch
Jun 08 08:40:52 <XorA> carbonfreeze: sounds like either you have a webcache in the path thats cached old verion of md5 or feed needs a resync
Jun 08 08:41:09 <Laibsch> !oebug 2438
Jun 08 08:41:11 <cdbot2> * * Bug 2438, Status: RESOLVED (FIXED), Created: 2007-06-07 20:59
Jun 08 08:41:12 <cdbot2> * * carbonfreeze(AT)gmail.com: angstrom 20070604 ipkg update fails on gstreamer feed
Jun 08 08:41:13 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2438
Jun 08 08:41:27 <Laibsch> XorA: Feed is OK.  See bug report
Jun 08 08:41:41 <Laibsch> Sorry, wrong number
Jun 08 08:41:59 <Laibsch> !oebug 2441
Jun 08 08:42:00 <cdbot2> * * Bug 2441, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-07 22:24
Jun 08 08:42:01 <cdbot2> * * carbonfreeze(AT)gmail.com: ipkg install md5sum badness
Jun 08 08:42:02 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2441
Jun 08 08:42:08 <Laibsch> XorA: That should be it
Jun 08 08:42:45 <XorA> sounds like a stupid ISP then
Jun 08 08:45:36 <Laibsch> carbonfreeze: Please download with wget as I did and check the md5sums you get with Packages.gz
Jun 08 08:45:57 <Laibsch> carbonfreeze: If there is a mismatch then XorA is right and your net connection to blame
Jun 08 08:46:09 <carbonfreeze> Laibsch: just finished downloading, running install now
Jun 08 08:49:54 <carbonfreeze> Laibsch: just finished installation after manually downloading, retrieved dependencies and installed correctly...
Jun 08 08:52:15 <Laibsch> XorA: ?
Jun 08 08:52:36 <Laibsch> carbonfreeze: No, that was not what I proposed
Jun 08 08:52:44 <XorA> Laibsch: blame 90% of net connection problems on ISP
Jun 08 08:52:51 <Laibsch> You CAN read, can you?
Jun 08 08:53:01 <Laibsch> Last comment for carbonfreeze
Jun 08 08:53:01 <XorA> Laibsch: when you manually install with ipkg it still checks md5 sums
Jun 08 08:53:07 <carbonfreeze> the md5sums were the same
Jun 08 08:53:08 <XorA> Laibsch: I know this because it pisses me off
Jun 08 08:53:09 <Laibsch> Oh, it does?
Jun 08 08:53:31 <Laibsch> XorA: But what about self-compiled ipk of the same version?
Jun 08 08:53:43 <XorA> Laibsch: yeah it will try and verify them
Jun 08 08:53:50 <XorA> Laibsch: and fail to install, as I said, pisses me off
Jun 08 08:53:55 <Laibsch> Sounds like a malfunction to me ;-)
Jun 08 08:54:06 <Laibsch> XorA: Yes, I can understand that
Jun 08 09:58:24 * XorA ponders the booting of cacko from inside Angstrom
Jun 08 10:01:53 <koen> XorA: qemu :)
Jun 08 10:02:07 <XorA> koen: nah, just kexecing over
Jun 08 10:02:24 <XorA> koen: arm doesnt have a VM mode unfortuneartely
Jun 08 10:02:30 <XorA> that would be cool
Jun 08 10:37:35 <summatusmentis> koen: I don't know if it's directly related but, I thought you should see this anyway
Jun 08 10:37:39 <summatusmentis> !oebug 2435
Jun 08 10:37:41 <cdbot2> * * Bug 2435, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-07 13:41
Jun 08 10:37:42 <cdbot2> * * summatusmentis(AT)gmail.com: wifi-radar linking to the packagers&apos; system
Jun 08 10:37:43 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2435
Jun 08 13:55:45 <dcordes> hello
Jun 08 13:57:08 <XorA> yo dcordes 
Jun 08 14:31:09 <XorA> hmm, unrotating the screen is broken on spitz
Jun 08 14:34:22 <CoreDump|home> XorA: not here, what's the problem?
Jun 08 14:40:50 <XorA> coredump, rotate then you cant unrotate
Jun 08 14:42:03 <CoreDump|home> ahh, the rotate applet is b0rked
Jun 08 14:42:19 <CoreDump|home> automatic rotation via hinge works fine
Jun 08 14:42:46 * koen wishes the rotate applet used HAL or something like that
Jun 08 14:49:12 <XorA> CoreDump|home: not here it doesnt
Jun 08 14:49:34 <XorA> CoreDump|home: it rotates one way then not back again
Jun 08 14:49:42 <CoreDump|home> via hinge?
Jun 08 14:50:31 <XorA> yes
Jun 08 14:50:36 * XorA wants a FMV-U8240
Jun 08 14:50:59 * CoreDump|home shrugs, no problems whatsoever here
Jun 08 14:51:48 <CoreDump|home> !google define: FMV-U8240
Jun 08 14:53:15 <XorA> xrandr works fine so its just a scripting issue somewhere
Jun 08 14:55:29 <CoreDump|home> !google define: FMV-U8240
Jun 08 14:55:31 <cdbot2> Sorry, no search results were found.
Jun 08 14:55:34 <XorA> CoreDump|home: http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/review-82-X.html
Jun 08 14:55:59 <CoreDump|home> wow
Jun 08 14:56:01 * XorA wonders how much a kidney goes for on ebay
Jun 08 14:57:00 <CoreDump|home> =D
Jun 08 14:57:02 <XorA> should sell it in Amsterdam, the Dutch dont seem to mind that :-)
Jun 08 14:57:28 <CoreDump|home> this is one sexy piece of technology 
Jun 08 14:59:57 <XorA> gah not on price japan yet
Jun 08 15:02:05 <CoreDump|home> ~lart WPA2
Jun 08 15:02:30 * XorA has no WPA
Jun 08 15:02:56 * CoreDump|home was using WEP until a few days agao
Jun 08 15:03:12 <CoreDump|home> then someone mentioned that WEP can be cracked in < 2m :\
Jun 08 15:03:13 <XorA> wife has a NDS so no WPA for me
Jun 08 15:03:38 <CoreDump|home> heh
Jun 08 15:04:05 <CoreDump|home> dd-wrt supports virtual APs with different security settings
Jun 08 15:04:32 <XorA> CoreDump|home: now you make me brain ache
Jun 08 15:05:09 <CoreDump|home> ;)
Jun 08 15:05:46 * XorA still has old OpenWRT as upgraiding is so painful
Jun 08 15:06:09 <koen> virtual AP using TDM ?
Jun 08 15:06:22 <CoreDump|home> depends on the device I guess? dd-wrt is upgradable via web-interface
Jun 08 15:06:41 <CoreDump|home> koen: dunno how they did it. I never bothered to look under the hood
Jun 08 15:10:03 <XorA> CoreDump|home: its resetting all me settings thats painful
Jun 08 15:10:31 <CoreDump|home> XorA: on dd-wrt you can choose to _not_ reset the settings. Never used open-wrt tho
Jun 08 15:10:41 <XorA> pulsecore/core-util.c: In function 'pa_raise_priority':
Jun 08 15:10:41 <XorA> pulsecore/core-util.c:547: error: label at end of compound statement
Jun 08 15:10:43 <XorA> bleh!
Jun 08 15:11:26 <XorA> CoreDump|home: thats true of NVRAM stuff, what about firewalling rules and guff like that
Jun 08 15:11:33 <XorA> CoreDump|home: the stuff in /etc/
Jun 08 15:11:52 <CoreDump|home> that would probably be toast =)
Jun 08 15:12:22 <dcordes> I don't like that fujitsu box
Jun 08 15:12:35 <dcordes> it's too much stolen from the zaurus
Jun 08 15:12:46 <CoreDump|home> it's a Zaurus on steroids
Jun 08 15:13:23 <CoreDump|home> awesome keyboard and screen. Decent 2D acceleration by the looks of it
Jun 08 15:13:31 <CoreDump|home> 40Gb HDD...
Jun 08 15:13:40 <dcordes> maybe it's just a bit envy :)
Jun 08 15:13:47 <dcordes> damn old z
Jun 08 15:13:49 <XorA> dcordes: zaurus is dead, move on :-)
Jun 08 15:14:15 <dcordes> XorA: did you make the rt73 packets yet?
Jun 08 15:14:23 <XorA> dcordes: no
Jun 08 15:14:55 <dcordes> let me know then so I can test the akita ones again to make sure everything is ok with it
Jun 08 15:15:43 <XorA> hmm, does anyone have staging/arm/include/sys/capability.h
Jun 08 15:23:16 <XorA> dcordes: feeds updating now
Jun 08 15:23:34 <hrw> tmp/staging/arm-poky-linux-gnueabi/include/linux/capability.h
Jun 08 15:23:56 <koen> XorA: http://rafb.net/p/TMrGyp23.html
Jun 08 15:24:18 <hrw> XorA: other arch/machines has also linux/capability.h only
Jun 08 15:25:04 <koen> what is wrong the the rt73 packages already present in the feeds?
Jun 08 15:25:35 <koen> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=rt73-k2wrlz
Jun 08 15:26:29 <XorA> koen: when did they go in?
Jun 08 15:26:41 <koen> last week or so
Jun 08 15:27:23 <XorA> koen: then they were added by someone without entering them in OE
Jun 08 15:27:37 <koen> no, they werent :)
Jun 08 15:27:48 <XorA> koen: I added the .bb yesterday
Jun 08 15:28:07 * hvontres|poodle grabs some popcorn
Jun 08 15:28:24 <dcordes_> lol
Jun 08 15:29:01 <XorA> koen: I wonder how pulseaudio was compiled :-( as the error is clear in the code :-(
Jun 08 15:30:32 <koen> 0.9.5 or 0.9.6?
Jun 08 15:30:44 <XorA> 0.9.6
Jun 08 15:31:07 <koen> right, that also fails for me, that's why I def_pref -1'ed it
Jun 08 15:31:28 <koen> ah, heh
Jun 08 15:31:47 <XorA> koen: forgot to push?
Jun 08 15:31:57 <koen> that was when the UPS dude rang the bell
Jun 08 15:32:07 <XorA> :-D
Jun 08 15:32:07 <hvontres|poodle> koen: new toy?
Jun 08 15:32:18 <koen> hvontres|poodle: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/avr32-network-gateway-reference-design
Jun 08 15:33:26 <hvontres|poodle> koen: hehe...I like the box :)
Jun 08 15:33:47 <koen> :)
Jun 08 15:33:47 <hvontres|poodle> koen: so how many "wall warts" do you own now?
Jun 08 15:33:49 <koen> me too
Jun 08 15:34:02 * koen hums the transformers tune
Jun 08 15:34:13 <XorA> 7/4/7 release date :-D
Jun 08 15:35:18 * hvontres|poodle thinks koen should install a DC power distribution system in his place
Jun 08 15:37:17 <koen> hvontres|poodle: I have an old atx powersupply where I 'converted' some 12V lines to plugs
Jun 08 15:37:33 <koen> I power 3 board from the same PSU
Jun 08 15:40:48 <dcordes_1> is there a way to modprobe ohci_hcd automagically when a device is plugged in?
Jun 08 15:43:16 <XorA> 10 minutes to holidays !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 08 15:47:14 <hrw> dcordes: no
Jun 08 15:47:22 <dcordes> k
Jun 08 15:48:08 <XorA> and after that mess satrling just segfaults anyway
Jun 08 15:50:05 <XorA> bye folks
Jun 08 15:50:14 <koen> XorA: enjoy
Jun 08 15:50:56 <dcordes> how did I check for the power of a usb device being enough or not?
Jun 08 15:59:21 <koen> "[..] based his work on Angstrom distribution and it seems almost stable."
Jun 08 15:59:36 <koen> from $bigvendor
Jun 08 15:59:47 <ade|desk> almost ?
Jun 08 15:59:51 <koen> as well as "Actually we are fighting with git & proxy and it seems that it is our major issue."
Jun 08 16:07:43 <hrw> koen: they lack network connections?
Jun 08 16:07:54 <hrw> firewalled etC?
Jun 08 16:14:01 <dcordes> XorA|holiday: what did you mean with segfaults?
Jun 08 16:16:53 <dcordes> usb?
Jun 08 16:18:33 <koen> hrw: I don't know the exact details
Jun 08 16:33:58 <hvontres|poodle> koen: so who is $bigvendor ?
Jun 08 16:42:25 <hrw> cu
Jun 08 16:44:58 <koen> hvontres|poodle: you'll know in a few weeks :)
Jun 08 16:50:40 * CoreDump|home just saw the price of the lovely  FMV-U8240 and cries
Jun 08 16:57:15 <CoreDump|home> meh, this would have been the perfect tabled, even ships w/ linux
Jun 08 17:21:46 <dcordes> my usb battery is pita
Jun 08 17:25:43 <dcordes> also edimax ew-7318usg eats way too much power for those 9v batteries
Jun 08 17:30:44 <dcordes> but the rt73-k2wrlz module is working very well.
Jun 08 18:35:07 <Laibsch> koen: How often are the sorting scripts for packages in unsorted being run?
Jun 08 18:38:29 <koen> when someone logs in and runs them
Jun 08 18:39:28 <Laibsch> Which scripts are that?
Jun 08 18:39:32 <Laibsch> Why not a cronjob?
Jun 08 18:39:41 <Laibsch> Wouldn't that make sense?
Jun 08 18:40:17 <koen> it's fairly heavy on IO
Jun 08 18:40:41 <koen> The plan is to have a web gui to take care of all that
Jun 08 18:45:26 <Laibsch> OK
Jun 08 18:45:42 <Laibsch> Probably any IO-heavy stuff is not a good idea at the moment :-D
Jun 08 18:45:53 <koen> all the current work is in the 'short term ugly hack' league
Jun 08 18:46:08 <CoreDump|home> that must be the understatement of the montg
Jun 08 18:46:11 <CoreDump|home> *month
Jun 08 18:48:08 <Laibsch> CoreDump|home: Why so cynical?
Jun 08 18:48:41 <CoreDump|home> oe.org is more offline than online or just plain dog slow most of the time
Jun 08 18:49:09 <Laibsch> OK, agreed
Jun 08 18:49:19 <Laibsch> Florian said he will take a look
Jun 08 18:49:23 <koen> every time someone runs the feed update script and/or the mtn server gets a dozen connections
Jun 08 18:49:26 <CoreDump|home> yeah
Jun 08 18:49:27 <Laibsch> Which I hope he does soon
Jun 08 18:49:36 <koen> and to top it all of some idiot seems to be DOSing ltg
Jun 08 18:49:40 <Laibsch> koen: The thing is not overloaded.
Jun 08 18:49:52 <Laibsch> CPU is plenty
Jun 08 18:49:59 <koen> ram not
Jun 08 18:50:05 <koen> it's swapping like crazy
Jun 08 18:50:27 <koen> it needs another gig of ram and a kernel upgrade
Jun 08 18:51:56 <koen> anyway, altboot should be in the feeds for all machines now
Jun 08 18:52:11 <koen> as well as the updated usb-gadget mode and xserver-common
Jun 08 18:52:58 <Laibsch> well done!
Jun 08 18:53:00 <CoreDump|home> re altboot: expect heavy breakage for any machine != SL-Cxx00 and neo1973...
Jun 08 18:53:16 <Laibsch> koen: You enabled altboot for all devices?
Jun 08 18:53:29 <Laibsch> CoreDump|home: collie?
Jun 08 18:53:33 <CoreDump|home> untested
Jun 08 18:56:43 <Laibsch> koen: Well, it is only using 30% of physical RAM as swap right now
Jun 08 18:56:53 <Laibsch> But it is also only at a load of 2
Jun 08 18:57:01 <Laibsch> it = ltg
Jun 08 19:07:00 <CoreDump|home> ~lart koen
Jun 08 19:07:06 <CoreDump|home> koen: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=recipes_header
Jun 08 19:07:21 <CoreDump|home> "HOMEPAGE
Jun 08 19:07:21 <CoreDump|home>     The URL of the home page of the application where new releases and more information can be found."
Jun 08 19:08:02 <CoreDump|home> it is listed as a part of the default header suggested for new .bb's
Jun 08 19:18:01 <Laibsch> CoreDump|home: koen was rightfully complaining about meaningless entries in the homepage field
Jun 08 19:18:23 <Laibsch> HOMEPAGE = <homepage> serves no purpose
Jun 08 19:18:24 <CoreDump|home> he called the "HOMEPAGE" variable bogus, which it is not
Jun 08 19:18:39 <Laibsch> I think you need to read the commit, again
Jun 08 19:19:06 <Laibsch> IIRC he was talking about a bogus HOMEPAGE variable.
Jun 08 19:19:29 <Laibsch> Which with the setting that was there is a harsh, but true statement, koen-style ;-)
Jun 08 19:23:06 <CoreDump|home> as I understood it he was bitching about the variable itself, not its contents
Jun 08 19:23:23 <CoreDump|home> You can read his statements any way you like ;)
Jun 08 19:24:23 <CoreDump|home> I'm taking bets about how long it takes him to find the "bogus" postinst / postrm =D
Jun 08 19:25:54 <Laibsch> well, you can always remove them before he finds them
Jun 08 19:26:41 <CoreDump|home> where would be the fun in that? ;)
Jun 08 19:27:27 <Laibsch> koen: mtn is really taking incredible amounts of RAM.
Jun 08 19:28:04 <CoreDump|home> "mtn: connecting to monotone.openembedded.org"..............
Jun 08 19:28:43 <CoreDump|home> time for food, 
Jun 08 19:39:56 <Laibsch> CoreDump|home: Why not use a mirror?
Jun 08 20:23:51 <CoreDump|home> Laibsch: ved network error: denied 'coredump2@openembedded.org' write permission for 'org.openembedded.dev' 
Jun 08 20:28:45 <Laibsch> well, there is more than one mirror, isn't there?
Jun 08 20:28:57 <Laibsch> But you guys must love each other to bits it seems.
Jun 08 20:29:05 <Laibsch> Have you ever met in person?
Jun 08 20:29:10 <CoreDump|home> nope
Jun 08 20:29:24 <Laibsch> Getting drunk together sometimes helps ;-)
Jun 08 20:29:39 <CoreDump|home> and sometimes it escalates things ;)
Jun 08 20:31:20 <Laibsch> well, that can happen, too, of cours
Jun 08 20:32:12 <CoreDump|home> (the other mirror errors out on commit as well btw)
Jun 08 20:33:42 <CoreDump|home> oh well, I'm not in a hurry
Jun 08 21:07:15 <Laibsch> this is not strictly Angstrom related, but not completely off-topic either.  I hope you will be forgiving
Jun 08 21:07:44 <Laibsch> I am trying to use my Zonet ZCF1100 CF wlan card in my Thinkpad X24 which sports a CF slot
Jun 08 21:08:21 <Laibsch> While trying to get WPA working I found out that the Thinkpad insists on the orinoco driver which AFAIK does not do WPA
Jun 08 21:08:28 <Laibsch> http://rafb.net/p/Vgmvwo30.html
Jun 08 21:08:50 <Laibsch> And this depsite me having made an explicit entry in wlan-ng.conf of the form
Jun 08 21:09:19 <Laibsch> http://rafb.net/p/B6Frpv56.html
Jun 08 21:09:39 <Laibsch> Firmware is at 1.8.0 so it seems that WPA should be possible
Jun 08 21:10:21 <CoreDump|home> hmm
Jun 08 21:10:36 <CoreDump|home> yes, 1.8.x should be fine
Jun 08 21:11:07 <CoreDump|home> I take it you already tried the generic "wext" driver for wpa_supplicant?
Jun 08 21:11:28 <Laibsch> Right now, I am not doing anything with wpa_supplicant yet
Jun 08 21:11:35 <Laibsch> both because I am new to wpa
Jun 08 21:11:46 <CoreDump|home> ah =)
Jun 08 21:11:50 <Laibsch> and because I thought I need to get it use the hostap driver first
Jun 08 21:12:03 <Laibsch> Another PCMCIA card worked out of the box
Jun 08 21:12:09 <Laibsch> no configs, nothing
Jun 08 21:12:19 <CoreDump|home> in theory orinoco should work as well AFAIK
Jun 08 21:12:35 <CoreDump|home> where did you enter your password?
Jun 08 21:12:54 <Laibsch> nowhere yet
Jun 08 21:13:03 <Laibsch> That was not necessary with the other card
Jun 08 21:13:03 <CoreDump|home> is that a debian box?
Jun 08 21:13:14 <Laibsch> It would only ask for the password upon connecting to the AP
Jun 08 21:13:21 <CoreDump|home> I see
Jun 08 21:13:21 <Laibsch> This is ubuntu edgy
Jun 08 21:13:52 <Laibsch> I NetworkManager I see two other WLANs, I suppose they are not WPA but WEP
Jun 08 21:13:54 <CoreDump|home> you're using the network-manager-gnome thingy to connect to your AP
Jun 08 21:14:09 <Laibsch> When I change my AP to WEP I can see the AP with the CF card as well
Jun 08 21:14:21 <Laibsch> well, I tried different things
Jun 08 21:14:37 <Laibsch> The gnome-thingy seemed easy and it was with the PCMCIA card
Jun 08 21:14:51 <Laibsch> But one step after the other, so I thought
Jun 08 21:15:05 <Laibsch> And thus figured I'd need to get the hostap driver loaded first
Jun 08 21:15:21 <CoreDump|home> that is of course possible
Jun 08 21:15:34 <CoreDump|home> I do not own an orinoco card
Jun 08 21:15:53 <Laibsch> google for "orinoco wpa" seems to suggest hostap is needed
Jun 08 21:16:09 <Laibsch> so does hrw
Jun 08 21:16:12 <Laibsch> http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/04/25/wpa-in-debian-and-poky/
Jun 08 21:16:16 <summatusmentis> afaik hostat is necessary for wpa
Jun 08 21:16:18 <CoreDump|home> right
Jun 08 21:16:19 <summatusmentis> hostap*
Jun 08 21:16:35 <CoreDump|home> !lart orinoco
Jun 08 21:16:37 * cdbot2 whacks orinoco with the cluebat
Jun 08 21:16:41 <Laibsch> OK, question is how to I get it to load hostap instead?
Jun 08 21:17:47 <CoreDump|home> good question
Jun 08 21:19:38 <CoreDump|home> the last time I had to fiddle w/ PCMCIA was ages ago
Jun 08 21:20:00 <hvontres|poodle> Laibsch: ipkg reomve orinoco*
Jun 08 21:21:08 <hvontres|poodle> Laibsch: oops, nevermind....
Jun 08 21:21:18 <CoreDump|home> =)
Jun 08 21:21:44 <CoreDump|home> well, removing the blasted orinoco module would be crude but probably effective
Jun 08 21:22:06 <Laibsch> well
Jun 08 21:26:01 <hvontres|poodle> Laibsch: did you take a look at /etc/pcmcia/config ?
Jun 08 21:26:32 <Laibsch> hvontres|poodle: no such file
Jun 08 21:26:36 <Laibsch> just config.opts
Jun 08 21:29:05 <hvontres|poodle> Laibsch: looking at my Z, I found a hostap_cs.conf file that has the ZCF1100 listed. maybe if you copy that one to your laptop it might work.
Jun 08 21:29:26 <hvontres|poodle> Laibsch: I am asuming you have the hostap drivers installed as well?
Jun 08 21:31:35 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: ping
Jun 08 21:37:34 <Laibsch> hvontres|poodle: good question but I guess those come standard
Jun 08 21:42:15 * CoreDump|home somehow can't get WAP2 working =(
Jun 08 21:42:20 <CoreDump|home> *WPA2
Jun 08 21:52:11 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, ?
Jun 08 21:52:13 <polyonymous> ping
Jun 08 21:52:37 <polyonymous> pong that is
Jun 08 21:53:22 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: are the packages needed for opie in the feeds? or do I need to build them?
Jun 08 21:53:41 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, I have no idea about the feeds, but I'd guess you need to build them
Jun 08 21:54:02 <summatusmentis> :-/ ok
Jun 08 21:54:28 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, I think you need an image to begin with ;-)
Jun 08 21:54:39 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: I've got a console image
Jun 08 21:54:50 <hvontres|poodle> polyonymous: maybe we need to figure out a way to set up a test feed for opie someplace
Jun 08 21:55:21 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: I figured I should just be able to install opie on top of the base console image?
Jun 08 21:55:22 <CoreDump|home> bitbake angstrom-opie-image ;)
Jun 08 21:55:23 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, well, I have never tried ti, but I've seen people complaining about this way of installing.
Jun 08 21:55:35 <polyonymous> CoreDump|home, already angstrom??
Jun 08 21:55:42 <polyonymous> hvontres|poodle, might be a good idea.
Jun 08 21:55:42 <CoreDump|home> it was a joke...
Jun 08 21:55:52 <polyonymous> CoreDump|home, but bitbake opie-image isn't :)
Jun 08 21:55:59 <CoreDump|home> ah
Jun 08 21:56:15 <CoreDump|home> well, shouldn't be hard to distribute an image then heh
Jun 08 21:56:34 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: ok, I guess I can do that, I just figured I could put it on top of a console image already installed
Jun 08 21:57:03 <polyonymous> CoreDump|home, yes, shouldn't be. Maybe Laibsch would volonteer for it, I think he has access to feeds (which I don't have and don't really crave for) and he builds opie on regular basis.
Jun 08 21:57:22 <hvontres|poodle> summatusmentis: well, if we had a feed setup, then in theory you could... 
Jun 08 21:57:28 <summatusmentis> does anyone know how the DISPLAY var is set? I'm trying to get e17 up and running from the task-e-x11 ipk, but it can't find the DISPLAY var(GPE works on another partition)
Jun 08 21:57:42 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, I told you - theoretically yes, but I've seen people having troubles. I don't know if it's their mental troubles or real ones.
Jun 08 21:57:50 <summatusmentis> hvontres|poodle: right, well, I can set up a local feed
Jun 08 21:57:57 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: yep, I'll probably just use an image
Jun 08 21:58:01 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, by gpe-dm in gpe, I guess.
Jun 08 21:58:06 <CoreDump|home> summatusmentis: either /etc/X11/XServer sets it, or Xfbdev itself
Jun 08 21:58:12 <hvontres|poodle> summatusmentis: well, at that point you might as well build the image :)
Jun 08 21:58:13 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, if you're building anyway, I think it's easier to build an image.
Jun 08 21:58:27 <summatusmentis> LOTS OF RED!!! :-P
Jun 08 21:58:30 <CoreDump|home> but what good is an image w/o feed =)
Jun 08 21:58:38 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, xchat? :)
Jun 08 21:58:43 <summatusmentis> yeah
Jun 08 21:58:46 <polyonymous> heh
Jun 08 21:58:58 <polyonymous> CoreDump|home, why don't you have a feed when you build an image?
Jun 08 21:59:04 <summatusmentis> ok, I need to go eat now, I'll look into all of the above later
Jun 08 21:59:08 * CoreDump|home is using xchat as well and didn't notice anyhting
Jun 08 21:59:13 <polyonymous> bon appetit.
Jun 08 21:59:23 <polyonymous> CoreDump|home, don't you highlight messages containing your nick?
Jun 08 21:59:24 <CoreDump|home> polyonymous: of course, I was talkig about $USER
Jun 08 21:59:26 <summatusmentis> actually, polyonymous: bitbake opie-image?
Jun 08 21:59:33 <CoreDump|home> oh that =)
Jun 08 21:59:42 <polyonymous> CoreDump|home, So was I, where $USER=='summatusmentis' :)
Jun 08 21:59:52 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, either that or opie-kdepim-image.
Jun 08 21:59:57 <polyonymous> Depends on your pim preferences.
Jun 08 22:00:12 <summatusmentis> alright, thanks
Jun 08 22:00:16 <polyonymous> or you can, of course, add kdepimpi to opie-image :)
Jun 08 22:00:16 <CoreDump|home> I'd prefer a real opie feed for the unwashed masses
Jun 08 22:00:36 <CoreDump|home> at least as a mid-term goal ;)
Jun 08 22:00:51 <polyonymous> CoreDump|home, well, since we have a requirement of moving opie to /usr before going angstrom, I do not think we want unwashed masses to use opie-image built from current oe.
Jun 08 22:02:18 <polyonymous> btw, CoreDump|home, do you have a clue about qt programming?
Jun 08 22:02:27 <CoreDump|home> nope
Jun 08 22:02:31 <polyonymous> ah..
Jun 08 22:02:49 <hvontres|poodle> polyonymous: I think zecke and hrw are pretty good at it
Jun 08 22:02:51 <polyonymous> just been wondering how to get rid of gray frame on qt-x11 opie reader.
Jun 08 22:03:11 <polyonymous> hvontres|poodle, the task is pretty trivial and I think I can solve it myself, don't want to bother masters :)
Jun 08 22:03:26 <polyonymous> hvontres|poodle, just thought someone may have an answer right away.
Jun 08 22:03:40 <hvontres|poodle> polyonymous: but master zecke can use his zen ways to lead you down the correct path :)
Jun 08 22:03:46 <polyonymous> :)) 
Jun 08 22:04:01 <polyonymous> The correct path is always "do it yourself", actually :)
Jun 08 22:04:12 <polyonymous> hacker's dao :)
Jun 08 22:04:38 <hvontres|poodle> polyonymous: " If you want it done right, do it yourself"
Jun 08 22:04:52 <polyonymous> hvontres|poodle, that too
Jun 08 22:05:09 <hvontres|poodle> Murphy's Law on outsourcring
Jun 08 22:05:19 <polyonymous> But that's a bit different issue, if I was to refer to this that would be an insult to master zecke :)
Jun 08 22:05:40 * hvontres|poodle has been screwed over by too many vendors
Jun 08 22:06:34 <CoreDump|home> hvontres|poodle: who hasn't been
Jun 08 23:28:55 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: ping
Jun 08 23:29:22 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, pong
Jun 08 23:29:49 <summatusmentis> will you look at this? http://pastebin.ca/551836 I don't see anything wrong... 
Jun 08 23:30:04 <summatusmentis> I mean, obviously it's not compiling, but  can't tell wh
Jun 08 23:30:05 <summatusmentis> why*
Jun 08 23:31:03 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, well, I know static qte has problems, but never got to figure them out because I think I didn't ever used static
Jun 08 23:31:53 <polyonymous> !oebug 2181
Jun 08 23:31:55 <cdbot2> * * Bug 2181, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-30 22:24
Jun 08 23:31:55 <cdbot2> * * angus(AT)handheldshell.com: qte-mt-static build fails
Jun 08 23:31:56 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2181
Jun 08 23:32:18 <summatusmentis> ok, so how do you build an image then?
Jun 08 23:32:35 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, seen angstromwithopie page?
Jun 08 23:32:55 <polyonymous> pp[s
Jun 08 23:32:56 <polyonymous> oops
Jun 08 23:33:00 <polyonymous> opiewithangstrom :)
Jun 08 23:33:05 <summatusmentis> no, I haven't, I'll go find it
Jun 08 23:33:08 <polyonymous> http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpieWithAngstrom
Jun 08 23:33:46 <summatusmentis> oh, thanks
Jun 08 23:34:08 <polyonymous> np
Jun 09 00:06:56 <polyonymous> Laibsch, now for impatient it may be worth giving another go.
Jun 09 00:25:25 <Laibsch> Cool
Jun 09 00:25:35 <Laibsch> But it will likely take until tomorrow morning
Jun 09 00:25:53 <polyonymous> Laibsch, overnight builds are the coolest :)
Jun 09 02:25:50 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: it hates me
Jun 09 02:26:01 * summatusmentis is reading the signs, opie is not right for him
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