**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 24 02:59:58 2007
Jun 24 03:39:10 <summatusmentis> anyone have any experience using DUN w/ a cell phone on USB?
Jun 24 03:39:20 <Zero_Chaos> yes :-)
Jun 24 03:39:34 <Zero_Chaos> verizon wireless in the US
Jun 24 03:39:47 <summatusmentis> is it pretty straightforward to setup?
Jun 24 03:40:03 <summatusmentis> I've never setup ppp on linux before
Jun 24 03:40:08 <Zero_Chaos> summatusmentis: that depends on a LOT of things
Jun 24 03:40:23 <summatusmentis> such as?
Jun 24 03:40:25 <Zero_Chaos> summatusmentis: you have verizon wireless in the US?
Jun 24 03:40:42 <summatusmentis> it's US Cellular, still CDMA
Jun 24 03:40:56 <Zero_Chaos> every provider has different setup, and some are much more poorly documented
Jun 24 03:41:11 <summatusmentis> and apparently(according to howardforums.com) the process for dialing in is pretty easy, I just don't know how to setup the ppp end of it
Jun 24 03:41:17 <Zero_Chaos> important thing would be getting usb-cdc and cdc-acm modules ;-)
Jun 24 03:41:38 <Zero_Chaos> you can try kppp for gui of wvdial for cli
Jun 24 03:42:01 <summatusmentis> kppp isn't for angstrom x11 is it?
Jun 24 03:42:09 <Zero_Chaos> LoL, I doubt it
Jun 24 03:42:17 <Zero_Chaos> I don't even know if wvdial is there
Jun 24 03:42:33 <summatusmentis> any ideas on doing it in angstrom?
Jun 24 03:42:41 <Zero_Chaos> I've not tried, and sadly, I have higher priorities right now, like fixing mother f**king imagemagick
Jun 24 03:43:01 <summatusmentis> :-./ alright
Jun 24 03:43:11 <Zero_Chaos> no wvdial in OE, don't know what to say.
Jun 24 03:43:16 <Zero_Chaos> sorry mate
Jun 24 03:43:17 <summatusmentis> no worries, have fun w/ imagemagick
Jun 24 03:43:27 * Zero_Chaos slams head into wall, face first
Jun 24 03:43:39 <Zero_Chaos> now maybe imagemagick will not look so bad
Jun 24 03:44:00 <summatusmentis> lol
Jun 24 03:46:11 <Zero_Chaos> you have no idea....and sadly, nor do I ;-)
Jun 24 03:46:21 <summatusmentis> hrm... maybe bluetooth would be easier? that'd require a BT dongle though
Jun 24 03:46:37 <summatusmentis> Zero_Chaos: I can't even read a Makefile, you really think I'd have an idea? :-P
Jun 24 03:46:43 <Zero_Chaos> summatusmentis: ppp is ppp, bluetooth or usb doesn't matter
Jun 24 03:46:51 <Zero_Chaos> summatusmentis: keep practicing, it starts to make a little sense
Jun 24 03:47:30 <summatusmentis> yeah, I know, I know
Jun 24 03:47:34 <summatusmentis> no more tonight though
Jun 24 03:50:10 <summatusmentis> Zero_Chaos: gkdial!!!
Jun 24 03:51:39 <Zero_Chaos> cool
Jun 24 14:06:52 <dcordes> hey how can I use my usb cardreader with sd card in it?
Jun 24 14:07:34 <summatusmentis> what? on your Z?
Jun 24 14:08:46 <dcordes> summatusmentis, yep akita (sl-c1000). Got a card reader connected to usb. lsusb shows it
Jun 24 14:10:17 <summatusmentis> umm...maybe this is just my own ignorance, but why would you use a card reader for SD? you akita has an SD slot in it
Jun 24 14:10:39 <dcordes> summatusmentis, no you can relax it's not your ignorance
Jun 24 14:10:43 <dcordes> my fs is on SD
Jun 24 14:10:56 <summatusmentis> ah, rootfs, got it
Jun 24 14:11:00 <dcordes> yep
Jun 24 14:11:11 <summatusmentis> what does lsmod tell you?
Jun 24 14:11:13 <dcordes> 64 mb do not suffice really
Jun 24 14:11:26 <summatusmentis> right, that makes sense
Jun 24 14:11:30 <dcordes> erm you want me to pastebin the whole of it or just some grep?
Jun 24 14:11:44 <summatusmentis> just tell me if ochi-hcd is loaded
Jun 24 14:11:49 <dcordes> yep it is
Jun 24 14:11:57 <dcordes> lsusb shows up a new dev
Jun 24 14:12:53 <summatusmentis> ok, can you mount the SD?
Jun 24 14:13:10 <dcordes> I don't which dev I should try
Jun 24 14:13:31 <summatusmentis> ls /dev
Jun 24 14:13:43 <summatusmentis> see if there's an sd<a or b><number>
Jun 24 14:14:11 <dcordes> mmcblk* are the sds rightß
Jun 24 14:14:21 <dcordes> oh i see
Jun 24 14:14:44 <dcordes> unfortuneately there isn't
Jun 24 14:15:03 <summatusmentis> there should be a sd* because it's using a scsi driver for the USB
Jun 24 14:15:13 <dcordes> only mmcblk0 and mmcblk0p1
Jun 24 14:15:25 <summatusmentis> which are your native SD
Jun 24 14:15:31 <dcordes> let me check
Jun 24 14:15:34 <summatusmentis> do you have scsi_mod loaded(module)
Jun 24 14:16:34 <dcordes> I don't know if it was before but now it is loaded
Jun 24 14:16:46 <summatusmentis> you just loaded it?
Jun 24 14:16:55 <summatusmentis> or it shows up in lsmod?
Jun 24 14:17:46 <dcordes> I loaded it.
Jun 24 14:17:55 <dcordes> doesn't give any sd devs
Jun 24 14:18:00 <dcordes> in /dev/
Jun 24 14:18:12 <summatusmentis> try unplugging the device, and plugging it back in
Jun 24 14:18:25 <dcordes> my native SD is /dev/mmcblk0p1
Jun 24 14:18:31 <summatusmentis> right
Jun 24 14:18:56 <dcordes> that's the only partition on the card, an ext2
Jun 24 14:19:05 <summatusmentis> yep, that sounds right
Jun 24 14:19:16 <dcordes> good
Jun 24 14:20:37 <summatusmentis> try unplugging the card reader, and plugging it back in
Jun 24 14:21:06 <dcordes> ok. no SD
Jun 24 14:21:31 <summatusmentis> can you pastebin lsmod?
Jun 24 14:22:22 <dcordes> hmmm :(
Jun 24 14:22:29 <dcordes> wait a minute
Jun 24 14:22:59 <summatusmentis> alright
Jun 24 14:31:27 <dcordes> summatusmentis, lol
Jun 24 14:31:47 <dcordes> pastebin.ca on minimo doesn't show up your post's url after posting
Jun 24 14:33:02 <dcordes> summatusmentis, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27012
Jun 24 14:35:45 <dcordes> summatusmentis, you still around?
Jun 24 14:38:06 <summatusmentis> yep, hold on
Jun 24 14:38:10 <summatusmentis> sorry, was working on something
Jun 24 14:39:13 <summatusmentis> dcordes: rmmod g_ether
Jun 24 14:40:03 <dcordes> summatusmentis, ok
Jun 24 14:40:59 <summatusmentis> are you getting a /dev/sd*
Jun 24 14:41:19 <summatusmentis> whoa... the logo on boot/shutdown keeps changing... weird
Jun 24 14:41:36 <dcordes> summatusmentis, negative
Jun 24 14:42:08 <summatusmentis> hold on, I'm rebooting my Z, and then I'll plug in a mass storage device
Jun 24 14:43:55 <dcordes> ok thanks
Jun 24 14:44:01 <summatusmentis> modprobe sd_mod
Jun 24 14:44:47 <summatusmentis> my mass storage device mounted itself and everything, so it does work...
Jun 24 14:45:04 <summatusmentis> and yours seems to be working as well... sort of
Jun 24 14:46:41 <dcordes> summatusmentis, sda, sdb, sdc ,sdc1, sdd
Jun 24 14:47:02 <summatusmentis> ok, that's a good sign
Jun 24 14:47:05 <dcordes> sdc1 mounted itself
Jun 24 14:47:06 <dcordes> great
Jun 24 14:47:10 <summatusmentis> there you go
Jun 24 14:47:16 <dcordes> thanks man
Jun 24 14:47:17 <summatusmentis> I assume it's a multi-card reader?
Jun 24 14:47:55 <dcordes> so actually which modules have to be loaded manually so I can put that in a small script?
Jun 24 14:48:08 <dcordes> summatusmentis, yep it can load almost everything
Jun 24 14:48:16 <dcordes> housing says 9in1
Jun 24 14:48:47 <summatusmentis> that's why you've got the different sd*
Jun 24 14:48:58 <summatusmentis> modules can be loaded on boot, hold on
Jun 24 14:48:58 <dcordes> I see
Jun 24 14:49:18 <dcordes> summatusmentis, nice. Also ohci_hcd would be good
Jun 24 14:49:45 <summatusmentis> make a file in /etc/modutils called the name of the module you want loaded at boot
Jun 24 14:49:53 <summatusmentis> then inside the file, put the name of the module you want
Jun 24 14:50:26 <dcordes> summatusmentis, sounds weird. why can't the system take the modules name from the filename itself?
Jun 24 14:50:41 <summatusmentis> repeat for as many modules as you want, then run update-modules to get it to boot
Jun 24 14:50:48 <summatusmentis> that I don't know, I just know that this way works :-P
Jun 24 14:50:54 <summatusmentis> hey, I've gotta head out, sorry
Jun 24 14:51:00 <dcordes> summatusmentis, okay see you
Jun 24 15:09:26 <lvcargnini> somebody there I need some help with angstrom distro
Jun 24 15:09:39 <lvcargnini> problems doing bitbake task-base or cups
Jun 24 15:10:01 <lvcargnini> I having problems with cups /var/run/cups/certs permissions
Jun 24 15:19:00 <koen> lvcargnini: have you looked at the bugtracker?
Jun 24 15:20:22 <lvcargnini> no 
Jun 24 15:20:42 <lvcargnini> I think this was not a bug I will check it now
Jun 24 15:21:38 <lvcargnini> bug id 2345
Jun 24 15:29:26 <lvcargnini> koen: I applied the patch but have no effects I still having the permissions problem
Jun 24 15:42:29 <lvcargnini> applied the patch cleaned and did bitbake again now It worked
Jun 24 16:14:13 <summatusmentis> koen: why is that not part of OE yet? if the patch fixes it...
Jun 24 16:44:33 <lvcargnini> please could the udev version been upgraded to 112-r1 version ?
Jun 24 16:45:02 <lvcargnini> is the version that I use on my filesystem hand made
Jun 24 16:45:03 <summatusmentis> is there anyone around w/ a collie?
Jun 24 16:47:07 <lvcargnini> and it work perfectly
Jun 24 16:47:47 <lvcargnini> after did bitbake angstrom-x11-image, where the image is located ?
Jun 24 16:48:11 <summatusmentis> deploy/glibc/images
Jun 24 16:48:14 <summatusmentis> or something like that
Jun 24 16:53:14 <lvcargnini> thanks
Jun 24 16:53:19 <lvcargnini> summatusmentis: thanks
Jun 24 16:53:26 <summatusmentis> sure thing lvcargnini 
Jun 24 16:54:19 <lvcargnini> summatusmentis: paste the error of sysvinit 
Jun 24 16:55:22 <summatusmentis> www.rafb.net/p/NzRlKv14.html == run.do_compile
Jun 24 16:55:36 <summatusmentis> http://rafb.net/p/Fd6Jvn23.html == log.do_compile
Jun 24 16:57:01 <CoreDump> the log doesn't show any errors
Jun 24 16:57:06 <lvcargnini> yep
Jun 24 16:57:12 <lvcargnini> there is no error
Jun 24 16:57:26 <summatusmentis> alright, hold on, I have to scroll up
Jun 24 16:59:10 <lvcargnini> ok
Jun 24 16:59:33 <summatusmentis> http://pastebin.ca/587488 == the output of the bitbake command
Jun 24 16:59:54 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: might be easier if you participated here, instead of my needing to use two channels :-P
Jun 24 17:00:04 <polyonymous> no prob
Jun 24 17:00:11 <summatusmentis> thanks
Jun 24 17:00:46 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, it has USRBIN  += utmpdump wall ifeq($(DISTRO),) in makefile
Jun 24 17:01:47 <summatusmentis> that means absolutely nothing to me aside from the face that's its roughly equal to if(<something here == $DISTRO) in C
Jun 24 17:01:55 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, do you put DISTRO in environment?
Jun 24 17:02:26 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, exactly if(distro==NULL) build_wall_too(); :)
Jun 24 17:02:37 <polyonymous> or better #ifndef :)
Jun 24 17:02:44 <summatusmentis> MACHINE="collie" DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1" bitbake angstrom-console-image
Jun 24 17:02:45 <polyonymous> anyway, do you have DISTRO in environment?
Jun 24 17:02:48 <summatusmentis> that's the command I ran
Jun 24 17:02:49 <polyonymous> aha
Jun 24 17:02:54 <polyonymous> got it, hang on.
Jun 24 17:03:39 <summatusmentis> and in local.conf DISTRO ?="angstrom-2007.1"
Jun 24 17:03:39 <polyonymous> http://rafb.net/p/X2t5re81.html ?
Jun 24 17:03:47 <polyonymous> ah
Jun 24 17:03:59 <polyonymous> then you can omit DISTRO= in your bitbake invocation.
Jun 24 17:04:03 <polyonymous> It's no-op, anyway.
Jun 24 17:04:07 <polyonymous> But better test the patch :)
Jun 24 17:04:37 <summatusmentis> well, I set up the local.conf when there was a different distro target for oabi machiens
Jun 24 17:04:39 <summatusmentis> machines*
Jun 24 17:04:51 <polyonymous> anyway, summatusmentis, nevermind your reasons, test the patch :)
Jun 24 17:05:12 <summatusmentis> lol, alright, into the Makefile?
Jun 24 17:05:27 <polyonymous> no
Jun 24 17:05:29 <polyonymous> to .bb
Jun 24 17:05:35 <polyonymous> it's a patch againt mtn tree.
Jun 24 17:05:38 <polyonymous> against
Jun 24 17:05:56 <polyonymous> and my guess it should save the life of yours :)
Jun 24 17:07:00 <lvcargnini> you can remove this two lines target os and taget_arch
Jun 24 17:07:01 <summatusmentis> alright :-) patch -p1 <.bb file> <path to patch> ?
Jun 24 17:07:09 <polyonymous> what?
Jun 24 17:07:22 <lvcargnini> remove DISTRO_VERSION
Jun 24 17:07:38 <lvcargnini> the defines on local.conf of summatusmentis
Jun 24 17:08:00 <polyonymous> I'm more interested in fixing the problem once and for all.
Jun 24 17:09:06 <summatusmentis> patching file ../org.openembedded.dev/packages/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb
Jun 24 17:09:06 <summatusmentis> patch: **** malformed patch at line 19: do_install () {
Jun 24 17:09:31 <polyonymous> wget -O - http://rafb.net/p/X2t5re81.txt | patch.... ?
Jun 24 17:09:48 <polyonymous> sounds like you've cut it out from pastebin the wrong way
Jun 24 17:10:11 <lvcargnini> for example, please take a look on http://pastebin.ca/587505, this is my build.conf, maybe it could help you I don't now if it is exactly your problem
Jun 24 17:10:13 <koen> there is a bug in mtn 0.33 or something that generated patches with an off-by-one line number
Jun 24 17:10:22 <lvcargnini> upgrade mtn to 0.35
Jun 24 17:10:31 <koen> or mtn diff --external
Jun 24 17:10:38 <lvcargnini> and bitbake  to 1.8.4
Jun 24 17:10:40 <polyonymous> I've upgraded to 0.35 yesterday.
Jun 24 17:10:43 <lvcargnini> use tha latest versions
Jun 24 17:10:46 <polyonymous> and I've been user .31 before, I think.
Jun 24 17:11:05 <lvcargnini> you did a pull on OE.mtn ?
Jun 24 17:11:10 <polyonymous> and 'malformed patch' doesn't sound like off by one to me, anyway.
Jun 24 17:11:24 <polyonymous> lvcargnini, no worries, lvcargnini, I did :)
Jun 24 17:11:30 <polyonymous> oops. I even named you twice :)
Jun 24 17:11:36 <lvcargnini> polyonymous:  ok
Jun 24 17:11:42 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, how is it going? :)
Jun 24 17:11:57 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: sorry, had to take care of something
Jun 24 17:12:04 <lvcargnini> polyonymous: neither me 8-) sorry too
Jun 24 17:12:04 <polyonymous> no prob.
Jun 24 17:12:09 <summatusmentis> I copied and pasted the patch, wget will work better?
Jun 24 17:12:18 <polyonymous> lvcargnini, neither you what?
Jun 24 17:12:26 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, I wouldn't trust copy'n'paste
Jun 24 17:12:33 <polyonymous> better wget plaintext version
Jun 24 17:12:36 <lvcargnini> polyonymous: netiher I have named you too
Jun 24 17:12:48 <polyonymous> lvcargnini, ah
Jun 24 17:13:44 <lvcargnini> summatusmentis:the build.conf that I uploaded to  http://pastebin.ca/587505, help you anyway ?
Jun 24 17:13:52 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: File to patch: ../org.openembedded.dev/packages/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb
Jun 24 17:13:52 <summatusmentis> patching file ../org.openembedded.dev/packages/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb
Jun 24 17:13:52 <summatusmentis> patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line
Jun 24 17:13:52 <summatusmentis> Hunk #1 succeeded at 51 with fuzz 1.
Jun 24 17:14:12 <polyonymous> huh 
Jun 24 17:14:15 <summatusmentis> looks like it worked?
Jun 24 17:14:22 <polyonymous> no clue.
Jun 24 17:14:32 <polyonymous> I've just reproduced your problem, I'll test the fix now.
Jun 24 17:14:34 <lvcargnini> summatusmentis: 
Jun 24 17:14:44 <polyonymous> and then I'll commit it to OE tree
Jun 24 17:14:44 <lvcargnini> summatusmentis: try to build it now
Jun 24 17:15:13 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, and yes, it seems it worked
Jun 24 17:15:42 <summatusmentis> ok, I assumed the "Hunk #1 succeeded" suggested the patch worked, which is what I was asking :-P
Jun 24 17:16:08 <polyonymous> yes, your assumption is right.
Jun 24 17:16:16 <summatusmentis> lvcargnini: why was I looking ath build.conf?
Jun 24 17:17:28 <lvcargnini> summatusmentis: just for help, a simpler build.conf could help, my $0,02 of contribution trying to retribute your previous help
Jun 24 17:17:47 <polyonymous> EUR 0.02, please :)
Jun 24 17:17:51 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: what was the long string of hexadecimal that got switched?
Jun 24 17:17:56 <summatusmentis> lvcargnini: oh, ok
Jun 24 17:18:01 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, what?
Jun 24 17:18:45 <summatusmentis> in the patch it did --- <something> <long string of hexadecimal
Jun 24 17:19:02 <lvcargnini> summatusmentis: how did you notice I put $ and do not defined the currency 8-)
Jun 24 17:19:03 <summatusmentis> then +++ <same something> <different string of hexadecimal>
Jun 24 17:19:11 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, probably, mtn revisions
Jun 24 17:19:17 <summatusmentis> oh, ok
Jun 24 17:19:42 <summatusmentis> lvcargnini: huh?
Jun 24 17:19:43 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, I've just pushed the patch to oe mtn.
Jun 24 17:19:57 <summatusmentis> ok, I'm cleaning, and rebuilding
Jun 24 17:20:00 <polyonymous> I wonder why didn't it prompt me for password... previous mtn did...
Jun 24 17:20:11 <summatusmentis> my computer blows, sorry for the slowness
Jun 24 17:20:20 <lvcargnini> summatusmentis: forget it, I agree with EUR
Jun 24 17:20:37 <summatusmentis> lvcargnini: lol, alright
Jun 24 17:26:43 <polyonymous> lvcargnini, what do you mean not defined? '$' is quite a definition, means USD :)
Jun 24 17:27:06 <summatusmentis> what's the symbol for AUD?
Jun 24 17:27:06 <polyonymous> That's why I suggested € ;-)
Jun 24 17:27:22 <summatusmentis> I think some other countries use the same symbol
Jun 24 17:27:23 <lvcargnini> polyonymous: wow, I thinked that $ was a generci symbol for .... money
Jun 24 17:27:45 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, dunno. you mean like $ or € ?
Jun 24 17:28:03 <lvcargnini> polyonymous: my keyboard don't have Euro symbol
Jun 24 17:28:07 <polyonymous> lvcargnini, for most americans, yes, they're mostly not aware of the rest of the world existance :)
Jun 24 17:28:12 <summatusmentis> I think other countries use the '$' symbol to denote their currency
Jun 24 17:28:16 <polyonymous> lvcargnini, neither my does :)
Jun 24 17:28:31 <summatusmentis> actually, some new dell keyboards have the euro symbol on them
Jun 24 17:28:35 <lvcargnini> polyonymous: wow let explain something I'm not american
Jun 24 17:28:49 <polyonymous> lvcargnini, I figured that a while ago :)
Jun 24 17:29:08 <lvcargnini> polyonymous: ok I get it 8-/
Jun 24 17:29:14 <summatusmentis> I _AM_ american :-P
Jun 24 17:29:47 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, ah, I didn't know. They I think lvcargnini done it right with $ :)
Jun 24 17:30:14 <summatusmentis> lol, yep, looks like it. :-D no worries
Jun 24 17:30:16 <lvcargnini> dears could we adopt yenes 
Jun 24 17:30:32 <summatusmentis> lvcargnini: if you don't mind my asking, what country are you from?
Jun 24 17:30:42 <lvcargnini> summatusmentis: Brasil
Jun 24 17:30:47 <polyonymous> lvcargnini, does your keyboard have ¥? :)
Jun 24 17:30:52 <polyonymous> ah
Jun 24 17:30:56 <polyonymous> so you ARE american :)
Jun 24 17:31:02 <summatusmentis> LOL
Jun 24 17:31:03 <polyonymous> just south american :)
Jun 24 17:31:04 <lvcargnini> polyonymous: ..... no
Jun 24 17:31:07 <CoreDump> lol
Jun 24 17:31:21 <lvcargnini> summatusmentis: ...... ok I'm american
Jun 24 17:31:44 <summatusmentis> lol, yes, you are
Jun 24 17:31:45 <lvcargnini> but my parents are Europeans
Jun 24 17:31:47 * polyonymous has just discovered american conspiracy here.
Jun 24 17:31:55 <summatusmentis> you're not... United States-ian?
Jun 24 17:31:57 <lvcargnini> hehe
Jun 24 17:32:08 <NAbyss> American conspiracy? That's just a distraction to hide the Australian conspiracy.
Jun 24 17:32:19 <polyonymous> NAbyss, most likely.
Jun 24 17:32:24 * summatusmentis rehides the Australian conspiracy
Jun 24 17:32:30 * NAbyss whistles innocently.
Jun 24 17:32:30 <summatusmentis> SSSHH!! You're not supposed to mention that
Jun 24 17:32:40 <polyonymous> Not to mention EU conspiracy.
Jun 24 17:32:53 <lvcargnini> no, my parents
Jun 24 17:32:57 <lvcargnini> 8-)
Jun 24 17:32:59 <summatusmentis> at least that ones way out in the open though
Jun 24 17:33:36 <polyonymous> yes, staying open is the best way to hide.
Jun 24 17:33:47 <polyonymous> did you build your sysvinit yet? :)
Jun 24 17:34:02 <summatusmentis> I just finished cleaning it, it's gonna start building here shortly, hopefully
Jun 24 17:34:19 <summatusmentis> it had to reparse all the files, I think
Jun 24 17:34:33 <polyonymous> not unless you also modified your local.conf
Jun 24 17:35:00 <polyonymous> Well, I committed the patch, anyway.
Jun 24 17:35:12 <summatusmentis> | /mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/build/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/install-sh: mountpoint does not exist.
Jun 24 17:35:14 <summatusmentis> wtf?
Jun 24 17:35:31 <polyonymous> while you were cleaning, I've reproduced your bug and tested the fix :)
Jun 24 17:35:41 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, mind giving a bit of context?
Jun 24 17:35:50 <summatusmentis> lol, OE hates me, it's the only explanation
Jun 24 17:36:05 <polyonymous> that sounds like a reasonable explanation :)
Jun 24 17:36:09 <summatusmentis> ERROR: function do_install failed
Jun 24 17:36:09 <summatusmentis> ERROR: log data follows (/mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/build/tmp/work/collie-angstrom-linux/sysvinit-2.86-r34/temp/log.do_install.840)
Jun 24 17:36:09 <summatusmentis> | NOTE: make -e MAKEFLAGS= INSTALL=install bindir=/bin sbindir=/sbin usrbindir=/usr/bin usrsbindir=/usr/sbin includedir=/usr/include mandir=/usr/share/man DISTRO= ROOT=/mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/build/tmp/work/collie-angstrom-linux/sysvinit-2.86-r34/image install
Jun 24 17:36:09 <summatusmentis> | install -d /mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/build/tmp/work/collie-angstrom-linux/sysvinit-2.86-r34/image/bin
Jun 24 17:36:11 <summatusmentis> | for i in  mountpoint; do \
Jun 24 17:36:13 <summatusmentis> |                       install -m 755 $i /mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/build/tmp/work/collie-angstrom-linux/sysvinit-2.86-r34/image/bin/; \
Jun 24 17:36:16 <summatusmentis> |               done
Jun 24 17:36:18 <summatusmentis> | /mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/build/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/install-sh: mountpoint does not exist.
Jun 24 17:36:20 <summatusmentis> | make: *** [install] Error 1
Jun 24 17:36:22 <summatusmentis> | FATAL: oe_runmake failed
Jun 24 17:36:24 <summatusmentis> NOTE: Task failed: /mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/build/tmp/work/collie-angstrom-linux/sysvinit-2.86-r34/temp/log.do_install.840
Jun 24 17:36:27 <summatusmentis> NOTE: package sysvinit-2.86-r34: task do_install: failed
Jun 24 17:36:29 <summatusmentis> ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting
Jun 24 17:36:31 <summatusmentis> NOTE: package sysvinit-2.86: failed
Jun 24 17:36:32 <polyonymous> lemme read that makefile again
Jun 24 17:36:33 <summatusmentis> ERROR: Build of /mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb do_install failed
Jun 24 17:36:37 <summatusmentis> ERROR: Task 887 (/mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb, do_install) failed
Jun 24 17:36:38 <polyonymous> and rememeber pastebin :)
Jun 24 17:36:40 <summatusmentis> NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 809 tasks of which 809 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed.
Jun 24 17:36:41 <summatusmentis> ERROR: '/mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb' failed
Jun 24 17:36:43 <summatusmentis> sorry, flooding!
Jun 24 17:36:46 <summatusmentis> yeah, sorry!
Jun 24 17:37:03 <polyonymous> ok,lemme checkthat damn makefile again.
Jun 24 17:37:47 <summatusmentis> i'm pulling and updating as we speak, maybe that'll fix this
Jun 24 17:38:34 <polyonymous> ah mountpoint is binary name... mind pasting your compile log?
Jun 24 17:39:50 <polyonymous> well, it's supposed to build mountpoint with the patch...
Jun 24 17:40:00 <polyonymous> pull harder :)
Jun 24 17:40:35 <summatusmentis> http://rafb.net/p/GN79Da78.html
Jun 24 17:40:50 <summatusmentis> that's the compile log, but the name is the same as the one I posted way early
Jun 24 17:41:18 <polyonymous> what?
Jun 24 17:41:30 <polyonymous> can you please bitbake -c rebuild sysvinit?
Jun 24 17:41:41 <polyonymous> (with whatever env prefix you use)
Jun 24 17:41:50 <summatusmentis> hold on
Jun 24 17:42:05 <summatusmentis> it's seeing if the mtn pull mtn update did anything
Jun 24 17:42:13 <summatusmentis> I've gotta go eat, I'll be back in a while
Jun 24 17:42:28 <polyonymous> bon appetit.
Jun 24 17:54:33 <summatusmentis> same error, I'll run the rebuild
Jun 24 17:55:07 <polyonymous> hm.
Jun 24 17:55:30 <polyonymous> well, it does take rerunning compile task, so do -c rebuild sysvinit
Jun 24 17:55:43 <summatusmentis> and the rebild seemed to work
Jun 24 17:55:49 <summatusmentis> rebuild*
Jun 24 17:56:14 <summatusmentis> do you still want the compile log?
Jun 24 17:56:23 <polyonymous> as long as it's working, I don't :)
Jun 24 17:56:59 <summatusmentis> so, -c rebuild sysvinit worked, so now I should be able to run the angstrom-console-image, and have that work too, right?
Jun 24 17:57:17 <polyonymous> yes. unless you have more bugs in store :)
Jun 24 17:57:28 <polyonymous> just invoke your "old" command.
Jun 24 17:57:45 <summatusmentis> I've spent 5 freaking days on this build, there'd better not be any more bugs :-P
Jun 24 17:58:08 <summatusmentis> gmp is running now, which means it seems to have skipped sysvinit, which is good
Jun 24 17:58:28 <polyonymous> Hmm.. I wasn't away for 5 days... 
Jun 24 17:58:30 <polyonymous> Maybe 5 hours.
Jun 24 17:58:56 <summatusmentis> well, I haven't really asked a whole lot, most of the 5 days was just compile time, etc
Jun 24 17:59:09 <summatusmentis> I'm never gonna be useful to angstrom at this rate :-P
Jun 24 17:59:53 <polyonymous> heh
Jun 24 18:00:06 <polyonymous> you're already useful - you've just spotted a bug :)
Jun 24 18:00:27 <polyonymous> it took you 5 freaking days, though :)
Jun 24 18:01:22 <lvcargnini> thanks polyonymous and summatusmentis, now I need some food bye and thanks
Jun 24 18:01:38 <polyonymous> lvcargnini, bon appetit. Not sure what are you thanking me for, though :)
Jun 24 18:02:45 <summatusmentis> lvcargnini: sure thing.... but I didn't do anything...
Jun 24 18:03:22 <lvcargnini> for the help of summatusmentis of bug tracking and polyonymous for good chating
Jun 24 18:03:32 <summatusmentis> lol, ok
Jun 24 18:03:34 <lvcargnini> any way bye guys and until next 
Jun 24 18:03:35 <polyonymous> :)
Jun 24 18:03:39 <summatusmentis> toodles
Jun 24 18:03:52 * polyonymous is a great chatter :)
Jun 24 18:04:21 <summatusmentis> hrm... I need a bigger HD
Jun 24 18:05:38 <polyonymous> Everyone does.
Jun 24 18:05:54 <summatusmentis> lol, or I could just get rid of windows... hrm
Jun 24 18:05:57 <polyonymous> But I suspect that you, like me, actually need to clean up yours :)
Jun 24 18:06:01 <polyonymous> oh that too :)
Jun 24 18:06:35 <summatusmentis> well, I've got a bunch of partitions, and I just need more room for OE
Jun 24 18:07:03 <polyonymous> I have a separate partition for OE tmp :)
Jun 24 18:07:16 <polyonymous> sometimes it's faster to mkfs than wipe it with rm :)
Jun 24 18:07:18 <summatusmentis> lol, that would be a good idea... 
Jun 24 18:08:16 <polyonymous> besides, I found that qt4 build takes 5 minutes less on jfs, although I don't want to move the whole system to jfs :)
Jun 24 18:08:58 <summatusmentis> :-)
Jun 24 18:09:34 <summatusmentis> well, I'm gonna be getting a new laptop soon, and from there I'll redo partition scheming, and give OE more room
Jun 24 18:09:42 <summatusmentis> maybe like 30GB
Jun 24 18:10:20 <polyonymous> my OE tmp partition is ~40G
Jun 24 18:10:53 <summatusmentis> and you run out of room?
Jun 24 18:11:09 <polyonymous> only when I move away old tmp instead of wiping it.
Jun 24 18:11:32 <summatusmentis> mm.. I'm making do w/ a 15GB partition
Jun 24 18:16:28 * polyonymous is waiting for du on tmp to finish :)
Jun 24 18:17:32 <polyonymous> 12G     tmp
Jun 24 18:17:47 <summatusmentis> that's a lot of tmp
Jun 24 18:18:20 <polyonymous> I think that's opie-kdepim-image + angstrom-x11-image
Jun 24 18:18:39 <summatusmentis> ah, I guess that'd make sense... even still
Jun 24 18:18:50 <summatusmentis> thats 3GB < my entire OE partition
Jun 24 18:19:07 <polyonymous> yup
Jun 24 18:19:31 <summatusmentis> it's building busybox :-) starting to get somewhere
Jun 24 18:27:42 <mimecar> hi
Jun 24 18:27:43 <JaMa> hi
Jun 24 18:27:52 <summatusmentis> hi
Jun 24 18:28:00 <mimecar> evening JaMa  & summatusmentis 
Jun 24 18:28:19 <summatusmentis> evening? oh wait.. you're in EU
Jun 24 18:28:41 <mimecar> it's 20:28 here
Jun 24 18:28:57 <summatusmentis> 14:28 here :-P
Jun 24 18:29:06 <JaMa> I have read mail from hrw about hostap fw loading script.. I'm using it for about a year and now again I'm thinking about non-volatile reflash of my wifi card
Jun 24 18:29:10 <mimecar> the sime time :P
Jun 24 18:29:31 <JaMa> I'm ready to rebuild hostap kernel modules with support for non-volatile fw loading
Jun 24 18:29:54 <mimecar> but you'll need write on the internal memory of wifi card
Jun 24 18:29:55 <JaMa> but is it good idea?
Jun 24 18:30:04 <CoreDump> JaMa: Worked for me ;)
Jun 24 18:30:28 <JaMa> I have the same card as hrw has
Jun 24 18:30:29 <CoreDump> OTOH, the volatile approach works just as well
Jun 24 18:31:36 <JaMa> I have dificulties with our eduroam wifi access.. it just stops working in few minutes and I have to restart wpa_supplicant and reconnect
Jun 24 18:32:05 <JaMa> probably not related to volatile approach.. but just for test..
Jun 24 18:33:29 <CoreDump> I recommend trying firmware 1.8.2 instead of 1.8.4
Jun 24 18:35:22 <JaMa> for non-volatile or its worth trying 1.8.2 even for volatile aproach?
Jun 24 18:35:31 <CoreDump> both
Jun 24 18:35:44 <CoreDump> 1.8.4 causes problems with some cards an/or APs
Jun 24 18:37:13 <JaMa> thanks
Jun 24 18:37:17 <JaMa> I'll try
Jun 24 18:37:18 <CoreDump> np
Jun 24 18:37:42 <JaMa> and PRI?
Jun 24 18:37:48 <JaMa> I have 1.1.4
Jun 24 18:38:09 <CoreDump> that should be fie
Jun 24 18:38:12 <CoreDump> *fine
Jun 24 18:38:49 <JaMa> ok
Jun 24 18:39:28 <CoreDump> bbiab
Jun 24 18:39:38 <summatusmentis> bye CoreDump 
Jun 24 19:16:54 <JaMa> CoreDump: non-volatile worked for me too :) .. PRI v1.1.1 and STA v1.8.2 now on card
Jun 24 19:39:35 <CoreDump> JaMa: excellent. Now try if it gets rid of the disconnects
Jun 24 20:27:34 <summatusmentis> CoreDump: d'you know if altboot'll work on the collie?
Jun 24 20:29:18 <CoreDump> summatusmentis: no idea
Jun 24 20:29:26 <summatusmentis> lol, alright
Jun 24 20:29:28 <summatusmentis> thanks
Jun 24 20:29:39 <CoreDump> I believe there is a bug-report about this
Jun 24 20:29:51 * summatusmentis looks
Jun 24 20:43:23 <hrw> morning
Jun 24 20:44:44 <CoreDump> hey hrw 
Jun 24 20:45:04 <summatusmentis> hi HRH_H_Crab 
Jun 24 20:45:04 <summatusmentis> erm... hrw 
Jun 24 20:45:04 <summatusmentis> sorry HRH_H_Crab 
Jun 24 20:57:32 <mimecar> re hi
Jun 24 20:58:20 <CoreDump> wb mimecar 
Jun 24 20:59:21 <mimecar> re CoreDump 
Jun 24 21:18:26 <mimecar> hi Marex-notebook 
Jun 24 21:18:34 <Marex> hi mimecar 
Jun 24 21:25:21 <mimecar> a "Oh my goddess" fan
Jun 24 21:38:34 <TheCreat0r> koen : im having some trouble with bikbake, im getting this error: ERROR : No providers of build target angstrom-minimal (for [])
Jun 24 21:38:57 <koen> try 'angstrom-minimal-image' instead of 'angstrom-minimal'
Jun 24 21:39:18 <TheCreat0r> ok sec
Jun 24 21:41:07 <TheCreat0r> koen : works :)
Jun 24 21:41:30 <hrw> it has to
Jun 24 21:41:37 <TheCreat0r> koen : but the setup environment tutorial sait to use angstrom-minimal
Jun 24 21:41:47 <hrw> koen: can you mtn rename that recipe and push?
Jun 24 21:42:30 <koen> hrw: why? 
Jun 24 21:42:46 <koen> TheCreat0r: it says " source source-me.txt ; cd /path/to/org.openembedded.dev ; mtn pull ; mtn update ; bitbake angstrom-minimal-image ; bitbake angstrom-console-image ; bitbake  angstrom-x11-image"
Jun 24 21:43:34 <hrw> koen: because that one should not be marked as distro related rather
Jun 24 21:43:36 <TheCreat0r> koen : hmm, must have got it from somewhere else because i copied and pasted it...
Jun 24 21:44:46 <koen> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom is the canonical place to get instructions
Jun 24 21:45:21 <koen> I know some people copied it (badly) and fixed (broke) it
Jun 24 21:46:42 <koen> hrw: I'd rather not rename it just because people don't read
Jun 24 21:47:14 <koen> anyway
Jun 24 21:47:19 * koen zzzzz
Jun 24 21:47:41 <mimecar> night all
Jun 24 21:48:30 <TheCreat0r> keon : http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2007-May/005250.html
Jun 24 21:49:27 <hrw>   n8 all too
Jun 24 21:50:00 <TheCreat0r> nn
Jun 24 22:01:17 <dcordes> somebody tried charging his sl-c*000 over usb power?
Jun 24 22:08:24 <CoreDump> dcordes: I don't think that this is possible
Jun 24 22:08:39 <dcordes> CoreDump, why shouldn't it?
Jun 24 22:08:52 <dcordes> afaik the akita requires 5v for loading
Jun 24 22:09:13 <CoreDump> because the device needs to explicitly support that
Jun 24 22:09:37 <dcordes> also there are USB batteries made for the playstation portable and iirc the psp has exactly the same voltage as the zauri
Jun 24 22:10:56 <dcordes> CoreDump, my battery is a 2200 mah LiIo which is designed for chargin iPods
Jun 24 22:11:02 <CoreDump> the PSP has nothing in common with a Zaurus
Jun 24 22:15:27 <dcordes> http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=24011
Jun 24 22:16:40 <dcordes> brb
Jun 24 22:23:34 <Zero_Chaos> CoreDump: the PSP has one thing in common with the Zaurus, the charging port ;-) size, voltage and polarity
Jun 24 22:24:12 <CoreDump> I was under the impression that he intended to charge his Z via the Z's USB port
Jun 24 22:24:23 <Zero_Chaos> CoreDump: the battery pack dcordes spoke of was referenced to him by me, I made a usb->zaurus power adapter and it charges the Z very well
Jun 24 22:24:33 <Zero_Chaos> CoreDump: he phrased it poorly, but no, that is not what he meant
Jun 24 22:24:42 <Zero_Chaos> CoreDump: or he was confused ;-0
Jun 24 22:24:55 <CoreDump> =)
Jun 24 22:25:23 <CoreDump> I caught my understanding error when I read the posted he linked to
Jun 24 22:25:44 <CoreDump> he did leave before I could say anything ;)
Jun 24 22:26:25 <Zero_Chaos> CoreDump: I'm in need of a little help.  Do you know a good .bb or a part of the manual to reference if I want to learn about staging? (and please don't say glibc)
Jun 24 22:26:40 <CoreDump> sorry no :\
Jun 24 22:26:51 <CoreDump> never had to stage anything yet =D
Jun 24 22:27:03 <Zero_Chaos> shizzle
Jun 24 22:30:34 <CoreDump> dizzle
Jun 24 22:32:08 <Zero_Chaos> fo' rizzle
Jun 24 22:32:13 <Zero_Chaos> mah nizzle
Jun 24 22:33:26 <CoreDump> +mhentges@oe-spitz:..es/spitz/hentges-release >du -sh
Jun 24 22:33:26 <CoreDump> 149M
Jun 24 22:33:30 <CoreDump> bah
Jun 24 22:40:52 <rhealy> Installed Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070605-tosa.rootfs.jffs2.bin on my SL-6000
Jun 24 22:41:25 <rhealy> Was wondering what kind of input developers would like about the image.
Jun 24 22:41:49 <Zero_Chaos> rhealy: bug reports not already on bugs.openembedded.org
Jun 24 22:43:01 <rhealy> Zero_Chaos: Can do.
Jun 24 22:43:36 <Zero_Chaos> rhealy: great, I'm sure it will be appreciated
Jun 24 22:45:42 <rhealy> Also I've updated/verified the Installation instructions for the SL-6000 based on the old OZ instructions. It's pretty much cut and paste from the originals..
Jun 24 22:46:00 <rhealy>  Who would I talk to about getting it onto the Angstrom site?
Jun 24 22:47:21 <Zero_Chaos> it's the angstrom site a wiki?
Jun 24 22:47:41 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, huh?
Jun 24 22:47:53 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: I wasn't talking to you
Jun 24 22:48:12 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: you know that usb battery pack needs an adapter to charge the Z, right? you can't charge with the Z's usb port
Jun 24 22:48:44 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, of course I was thinking of making a cable for that purpose but I was not sure if I can charge it that way. Did you try?
Jun 24 22:50:28 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: My battery pack came with a USB->PSP cable, that charges the Zaurus fine, and prior to that I hacked up a usb cable and a psp cable to make the same adapter
Jun 24 22:50:38 <Zero_Chaos> the PSP end fits in the Z just fine
Jun 24 22:51:09 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, that's that "hack" I was thinking of
Jun 24 22:51:31 <Zero_Chaos> just making sure
Jun 24 22:51:37 <Zero_Chaos> try not to reverse the polarity
Jun 24 22:51:38 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, and since it looks like we have that same device I will just try
Jun 24 22:51:45 <dcordes> good idea
Jun 24 22:52:33 <rhealy> Zero_Chaos: There is a wiki portion on linuxtogo.org. The installation instructions are at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/taxonomy/term/2
Jun 24 22:52:51 <Zero_Chaos> ahh
Jun 24 22:53:15 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, an hostap progress yet?
Jun 24 22:53:47 <dcordes> s/an/any
Jun 24 22:54:32 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: working on imagemagick so that I can make kismet/gpsmap work.  After that I promise I will work on hostap
Jun 24 22:54:39 <Zero_Chaos> RP: PING
Jun 24 22:56:26 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, I don't use the prism atm anyway. Was just wondering if I coul help testing. If so let me know. 
Jun 24 22:56:33 <Zero_Chaos> sure
Jun 24 23:07:14 <dcordes> what kind of gps device are you using with the akita?
Jun 24 23:10:33 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: BU-353 if I recall correctly, I've yet to give it a full test (I want to make gpsmap work first)
Jun 24 23:13:48 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, are you talking about http://freshmeat.net/projects/gpsmap/ ?
Jun 24 23:16:21 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: no, I'm talking about kismet's gpsmap
Jun 24 23:23:07 <CoreDump> Zero_Chaos: did you manage to enable sound in kismet_client?
Jun 24 23:24:37 <Zero_Chaos> CoreDump: to be honest I've not tried for years, but it was REALLY easy last I did it.  needed /usr/bin/play which I made a crappy little shell script for.
Jun 24 23:24:47 <Zero_Chaos> CoreDump: good point though, I'll be sure to add that ;-)
Jun 24 23:24:57 <CoreDump> =)
Jun 24 23:25:00 * Zero_Chaos begins to cry
Jun 24 23:25:07 <Zero_Chaos> CoreDump: I'm just so glad someone cares!
Jun 24 23:25:48 <CoreDump> Zero_Chaos: ;)
Jun 24 23:31:42 <Zero_Chaos> CoreDump: if something is an RDEPEND should I also make it a DEPEND to be sure it is build?
Jun 24 23:32:00 <CoreDump> Zero_Chaos: correct
Jun 24 23:32:06 <Zero_Chaos> thanks
Jun 24 23:32:40 <CoreDump> there are some mechanisms to auto-DEPEND on any RDEPEND but that works only for image builds AFAIK
Jun 24 23:33:33 <Darth_Wader> hi, what`s the current status of OPIE in angstrom ?
Jun 24 23:33:54 <Zero_Chaos> Darth_Wader: buildable
Jun 24 23:36:51 <Darth_Wader> hm.. will try to build it..
Jun 24 23:37:18 <Zero_Chaos> Darth_Wader: there is opie-16mb-image or something like that I think
Jun 24 23:37:23 <Zero_Chaos> Darth_Wader: what device do you have?
Jun 24 23:37:30 <Darth_Wader> ipaq 2210
Jun 24 23:38:40 <Zero_Chaos> Darth_Wader: trying to fit into flash or loopback?
Jun 24 23:38:46 <Zero_Chaos> Darth_Wader: ie, do you have enough flash?
Jun 24 23:38:56 <Darth_Wader> i`m currently using angstrom on sd card
Jun 24 23:39:24 <Darth_Wader> the ipaq itself, however, flashed with LAB and familiar/gpe 0.8.4 :)
Jun 24 23:41:08 <Zero_Chaos> Darth_Wader: I'd get angstrom-console-image and alt-boot into the flash, get a better kernel ;-)
Jun 24 23:52:46 <Darth_Wader> i`m thinking about creating gpe-image  with pidgin built-in to flash it in for now, but QVGA is a serious show-stopper because of developers thinking in SVGA+ (not sure if pidgin`s config dialog would fit it vga)
Jun 24 23:56:30 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, pidgin is in the feeds.
Jun 24 23:57:20 <Darth_Wader> yup, and i`m using it, but for almost any changes in configuration i must connect my ipaq to laptop and start pidgin on that screen
Jun 24 23:57:46 <Darth_Wader> btw, last versions of gaim was free of this problem
Jun 24 23:58:40 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, sorry I got that resolution thing twisted. I was assuming ipaq had the same resolution as the zauri 
Jun 24 23:59:06 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: it does, the same as SOME of the Zaurii
Jun 24 23:59:42 <Darth_Wader> some of ipaq have vga resolution, e.g hx4700, but 90% of IPAQs  don`t
Jun 24 23:59:45 <dcordes> like poodle and friends?
Jun 25 00:08:26 <Darth_Wader> anyone aware of solutions to make pidgin and/or x-chat config windows usable on qvga?
Jun 25 00:10:23 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, are they not?
Jun 25 00:10:36 <polyonymous> ah qvga is 320x240 or something like that?
Jun 25 00:11:08 <Darth_Wader> 320x240 exactly
Jun 25 00:11:38 <Darth_Wader> and those dialogs are just a mess of buttons and other controls, put in 3+ layers one above other
Jun 25 00:22:11 <Darth_Wader> btw, anyone succeeded in turning font antialiasing off completely in gpe?
Jun 25 00:33:29 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, one thing that comes to my mind about your issue is fluxbox. I used that on openzaurus with gpe. You were able to move every window there holding alt. That could solve your problem with the config screens not fitting your screen. But on my machine (Zaurus sl-c1000 akita) it does not work.
Jun 25 00:33:41 <dcordes> Try installing fluxbox or fluxbox-gpe
Jun 25 00:34:58 <Darth_Wader> alt key is not possible on ipaq due to lack of keboard on it :)
Jun 25 00:37:34 <CoreDump> ALT-Drag works fine here
Jun 25 00:38:08 <Darth_Wader> here = ?
Jun 25 00:38:56 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, maybe you could configure right or middle click to be alt click?
Jun 25 00:39:12 <dcordes> and then use xmonobuttun to get into "drage mode"
Jun 25 00:39:26 <Darth_Wader> oh. that`s one more issue there
Jun 25 00:40:23 <Darth_Wader> xmonobut are`nt working at all
Jun 25 00:45:14 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, that's annoying
Jun 25 00:45:27 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, can't you add it to the panel or what is it?
Jun 25 00:45:32 <dcordes> does it crash?
Jun 25 00:45:57 <Darth_Wader> it doesn`t crash, it just produces nothing but changing mouse pointer
Jun 25 00:46:08 <CoreDump> here = Spitz
Jun 25 00:46:17 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, that's what it should..
Jun 25 00:46:24 <dcordes> afaik
Jun 25 00:46:41 <Darth_Wader> yup, and it also must change behaviour of mouse clicks
Jun 25 00:46:46 <Darth_Wader> but it wont
Jun 25 00:49:46 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, how did you test?
Jun 25 00:50:06 <dcordes> because in most gpe application it did not seem to have any effect
Jun 25 00:50:08 <dcordes> on me
Jun 25 00:50:18 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: not much time, but by build died at the do_rooftfs stage http://rafb.net/p/sSXcMB85.html
Jun 25 00:50:22 <dcordes> er on the mouse behaviour from my observation :)
Jun 25 00:50:57 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, I'm not even going to look at it now, heading to bed.
Jun 25 00:51:06 <summatusmentis> alright, goodnight
Jun 25 00:51:10 <polyonymous> night :)
Jun 25 00:51:10 <summatusmentis> sorry to bother you
Jun 25 00:51:12 <Darth_Wader> dcordes: funny.. seems like someone demoliting it since familiar 0.8.4 -- there xmonobut was working in any gtk or xlib widget i`ve tried
Jun 25 00:51:52 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, let me check wait a second
Jun 25 00:51:54 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, bb.parse.ParseError: Could not inherit file classes/rootfs_${IMAGE_PKGTYPE}.bbclass - check your IMAGE_PKGTYPE. I'm off 
Jun 25 00:52:12 <summatusmentis> I thought you weren't gonna look at it :-P
Jun 25 00:52:32 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, I thought so too.
Jun 25 00:52:39 <polyonymous> But I couldn't resist the temptation.
Jun 25 00:52:42 <summatusmentis> goodnight, sleep well
Jun 25 00:52:47 <polyonymous> Well, I'm really off now :)
Jun 25 00:52:50 <polyonymous> thanks :)
Jun 25 00:52:52 * polyonymous is gone
Jun 25 00:58:46 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, where do you want me to right-click?
Jun 25 00:59:56 <Darth_Wader> not right click, but launch terminal, select some text there with left button and try to paste it with middle
Jun 25 01:00:07 <dcordes> ok
Jun 25 01:01:34 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, doesn't paste from gpe-su to gpe-edit
Jun 25 01:01:59 <dcordes> selected with left click, switched to gpe-edit, tried to paste with middle, didn't work
Jun 25 01:02:24 <dcordes> the opie terminal has those fancy copy and paste buttons
Jun 25 01:06:53 <Darth_Wader> opie seems to be created with low-res touchscreen devices in mind
Jun 25 01:07:37 <dcordes> yea
Jun 25 01:07:51 <dcordes> you should still take a look at fluxbox. although you have no alt.-
Jun 25 01:07:57 <dcordes> have to catch some sleep 
Jun 25 01:08:04 <Darth_Wader> i`ve already tried with fluxbox
Jun 25 01:08:10 <dcordes> no success?
Jun 25 01:08:15 <Darth_Wader> last time it ended up with soft-reset
Jun 25 01:08:30 <Darth_Wader> fluxbox gone catching sigsegv upon lauch
Jun 25 01:08:32 <dcordes> hm yea that's what I feared
Jun 25 01:08:48 <dcordes> It kicked me back to login screen directly
Jun 25 01:10:16 <dcordes> last time I tried it on angstrom
Jun 25 01:10:32 <Darth_Wader> yup... and due to bluetooth controls that exist only on panel i was unable to revert it back until reset and connecting card with angstrom to desktop pc
Jun 25 01:12:05 <Darth_Wader> there`s also one sad problem, that seems to be never fixed - bluetooth pairing with modern nokia and some other phones that refuses unit key auth (nokia 6021 f.e) - for wm2003 there is a patch, for bluez there are nothing..
Jun 25 01:14:33 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, maybe you could make some useful tickets
Jun 25 01:14:51 <dcordes> Darth_Wader, http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2558 you could confirm the fluxbox issue. Just opened that one.
Jun 25 01:15:55 <Darth_Wader> okay, will confirm it later 
Jun 25 01:18:57 <dcordes> thanks, see you
Jun 25 02:27:31 <Zero_Chaos> How does one say, "I want to run autoreconf before configure"?
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