**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 01 02:59:56 2007 Jul 01 04:35:35 is anyone around really? Jul 01 11:01:26 how can make matchbox to make all windows resizeable ?? Jul 01 12:02:01 hmm i rebooted and now i have no menu, just a thich white line Jul 01 12:05:46 TheCreat0r, tap that line Jul 01 12:07:32 dcordes : i didn't hide it Jul 01 12:07:41 mybe it hid itself Jul 01 12:07:48 dcordes : its as thick as the menu Jul 01 12:07:53 but there is no more menu Jul 01 12:08:02 TheCreat0r, you can also killall gpe-panel && gpe-panel Jul 01 12:08:15 TheCreat0r, ah i see. also experienced that Jul 01 12:08:24 what is it? Jul 01 12:08:31 sometimes a few items disappear from my panel Jul 01 12:09:15 hmm Jul 01 12:09:39 so how do i get the menu back? i tried powering off and booting back up Jul 01 12:11:32 TheCreat0r, still only a white bar? Jul 01 12:11:43 yeah Jul 01 12:13:41 TheCreat0r, that's really odd Jul 01 12:13:46 just readd your stuff Jul 01 12:13:59 that's what I'd do Jul 01 12:14:04 dcordes : yep, just doing that now :) Jul 01 12:14:40 I need to test out the youtube downloader script combined with gnash Jul 01 12:15:55 does the firefox in openembedded support plugins? Jul 01 12:20:28 sorry, I got matchbox-panel with gpe-panel confused Jul 01 12:37:33 CoreDump|afk, did you take a look at the zaurus speaker thing? Jul 01 12:49:58 is it possible to download from somewhere the zImage corresponding to http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/machine/htcuniversal/kernel-image-2.6.21-hh9_2.6.21-hh9-r1_htcuniversal.ipk Jul 01 12:52:38 padski: download the package and extract it Jul 01 12:53:10 Penix: did that, but it is only control file: 894 bytes Jul 01 12:55:02 apparently they are built this way for some targets because it is usual to have the zImage outside the root fs for booting. But I've yet to figure out where to go to download the zImage Jul 01 13:19:34 what the... Jul 01 13:19:55 i`ve started bitbake opie-irc last night and went to sleep... Jul 01 13:20:07 Darth_Wader, lol still bakin? Jul 01 13:20:15 NOTE: Running task 418 of 435 (ID: 9, /media/build/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-irc/opie-irc_cvs.bb, do_fetch) Jul 01 13:20:20 kinda hanged Jul 01 13:20:29 :( Jul 01 13:36:39 anyone around have any experience w/ gdb? Jul 01 13:38:56 summatusmentis : i do, CRTL + C Jul 01 13:39:34 TheCreat0r: I don't want to quit out of it :-) I'm trying to figure out how to interpret what it's telling me Jul 01 13:39:40 * summatusmentis is a coding/debugging newb Jul 01 13:39:58 summatusmentis : hehe, whats it giving you? Jul 01 13:40:24 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. Jul 01 13:40:24 0x4020ac8c in strncpy () from /lib/libc.so.6 Jul 01 13:40:44 obviously it's segfaulting, which is why I'm running gdb in the first place :-) what's the hex stuff? Jul 01 13:41:02 address Jul 01 13:41:14 memory address Jul 01 13:41:23 alright, so then, what am I looking for? Jul 01 13:42:03 there are 3 instances of strncpy in the code, and what I've garnered from the man page is that it's likely not enough memory allocated Jul 01 13:42:03 summatusmentis : so its attempting to access memory thats not allocated to it Jul 01 13:42:30 summatusmentis : which is obviously a no no Jul 01 13:42:37 right Jul 01 13:42:42 strncpy (quality, "Unknown", 10); Jul 01 13:42:46 is one of the instances Jul 01 13:43:04 in the other two s/quality/{level,noise}/ Jul 01 13:43:28 strncpy(dest, source, dest_size - 1); Jul 01 13:43:29 does it check wether the malloc succeeded or 'quality' isn't NULL? Jul 01 13:44:08 koen: not that I'm seeing, it checks to see if 'quality' != -1 Jul 01 13:44:33 summatusmentis : so it does check Jul 01 13:44:59 seems to, it's actually checking Mwb.quality, but as far as I can tell, it's the same thing? Jul 01 13:46:28 s/Mwb.quality/Mwd.quality Jul 01 13:47:36 arrrrrr Jul 01 13:47:46 how do i tell bitbake to show commands being executed? Jul 01 13:51:01 TheCreat0r: am I reading the code wrong? or would changing the 10 to an 11 fix it? Jul 01 13:54:44 summatusmentis : your copying 10 bytes from quality to unknown Jul 01 13:54:49 and thats causing a seg fault Jul 01 13:54:57 so 11 wouldn't make any difference Jul 01 13:55:06 what the hell is "unknown" Jul 01 13:55:25 I'm not sure... this is mb-applet-wireless code, I'm just trying to fix it Jul 01 13:55:54 strncpy (quality, "Unknown", 10); <-- so thats how its displayed in the source? Jul 01 13:56:03 yes Jul 01 13:56:08 I thought it went strncpy(dest, source, byte count) Jul 01 13:56:40 so I read that to mean "Unknown" was being copied to 'quality', w/ a byte count 10? Jul 01 13:57:09 it is, sorry, got it mixed around Jul 01 13:58:29 summatusmentis : ONLY DO THIS FOR TESTING: strcpy (quality, "Unknown"); instead Jul 01 13:59:08 just so we narrow down the errors, we'll change it back later Jul 01 13:59:27 (notice no "n" in the middle) Jul 01 14:00:11 right, ok, hold on Jul 01 14:02:11 TheCreat0r: I appreciate this, I'm kinda... well, I'm a newb, and you'r probably busy Jul 01 14:02:32 summatusmentis : hehe, its no trouble :) Jul 01 14:02:49 Evening everyone Jul 01 14:02:59 hello Jul 01 14:02:59 hi BigAl, but it's 10 am here :-) Jul 01 14:03:13 BigAl: Ello Jul 01 14:03:17 What do you have to bitbake to update the Packages file in the build directory? Jul 01 14:03:41 TheCreat0r: I'm assuming I can just transfer the 'mb-applet-wireless' binary to my Z, and run that way right? I don't need to install the whole ipk again? Jul 01 14:03:46 package-index Jul 01 14:03:51 NAbyss_: Managed to get angstrom installed, just trying to cram some packages into it now Jul 01 14:04:06 BigAl: Good stuff Jul 01 14:04:15 Thanks, that'd doing it! Jul 01 14:04:28 BigAl: I've just played with the ANGSTROM_EXTRA_PACKAGES in my local.conf.. makes it easy to bang in a prebuilt image Jul 01 14:04:49 Only thing is I needed to repartition.. abiword et al aren't small Jul 01 14:05:49 NAbyss_: Hopefully I won't have to do that to fit on everything I need. Jul 01 14:06:01 BigAl: With any luck, yeah Jul 01 14:07:57 summatusmentis : you may need to install the whole ipk, try the binary Jul 01 14:08:11 trying the binary, and it's doing the same thing Jul 01 14:08:16 NAbyss_: I really should have done this sometime before the night before I leave. Jul 01 14:12:39 BigAl: Oh yeah. Jul 01 14:13:08 BigAl: If all else fails, I can give you my image which's got abiword/gpsdrive/gnumeric/madplay/mplayer/random GPE utils installed Jul 01 14:13:57 NAbyss_, you got gpsdrive running at a decent speed? o.o, here I get a screenupdate like, each 3 seconds when running Z overclocked x.x Jul 01 14:14:15 NAbyss_: Thanks, if I can't get everything installed tonight I might need that. Jul 01 14:14:25 Furre: Yeah, seems to be decent here Jul 01 14:14:32 Furre: And that's with 400 odd mb of maps Jul 01 14:15:06 gpsdrive? where does it get it's maps? Jul 01 14:16:46 NAbyss_, wierd ;-;, it actually runs at a good speed for you? :x Jul 01 14:17:37 summatusmentis: ~/.gpsdrive Jul 01 14:17:45 Furre: Hell yeah Jul 01 14:17:52 Furre: I use it when I'm driving interstate Jul 01 14:18:29 NAbyss_: well, there was a discussion in #openmoko about a gps program for the neo, and i was wondering if the maps were legal in the US Jul 01 14:18:58 that is, not infirnging on companies copyright Jul 01 14:19:00 for the US you can use the tiger data Jul 01 14:19:01 summatusmentis: Which maps? Jul 01 14:19:15 summatusmentis: In .au, I just use google maps ripped via wget Jul 01 14:20:07 NAbyss_: the maps you're using in gps drive. Apparently ripping from google maps is infringing on copyright Jul 01 14:20:10 koen: tiger? Jul 01 14:20:21 summatusmentis: Only if I redistribute them Jul 01 14:20:31 oh, I see Jul 01 14:20:43 summatusmentis: I've given a copy of the wget scripts to friends.. but not the maps as such Jul 01 14:21:07 summatusmentis: http://tiger.census.gov/ Jul 01 14:22:14 NAbyss_, could I take a look at that script? Jul 01 14:22:18 NAbyss_: oh, cool Jul 01 14:22:21 koen: thanks Jul 01 14:22:39 dcordes: I've only got maps for around Australia atm Jul 01 14:23:00 NAbyss_, doesn't matter I'm just interested in your script Jul 01 14:23:31 TheCreat0r: I'm not sure if the stupid ipk is installing, I'm getting errros about HOLD or PREFERRED being the same Jul 01 14:23:38 * summatusmentis is also an OE newb Jul 01 14:24:11 dcordes: It's a hacked up buildsystem around a set of scripts built around the output from this site: http://gtk.tel.uva.es/ztep/maps/dmap.htm - I'll see if I can create a tarball or two of the buildsystem Jul 01 14:24:35 summatusmentis: just copy the binary Jul 01 14:24:59 s/gtk/gtm/ Jul 01 14:25:01 koen: alright Jul 01 14:25:11 that much faster and easier Jul 01 14:25:20 koen: Yep, thanks :) Jul 01 14:25:23 Gotta love typos Jul 01 14:25:41 NAbyss_, I thought you were just using a wget script to get google maps? Jul 01 14:26:09 dcordes: Yes, I am... I'm wgetting 1280x1024 tiles, and I have a buildsystem generated around selecting sets of scripts Jul 01 14:26:12 im trying to install the links browser but i can get the dependency package jped (>= 6b), its not in the angstrom feed? Jul 01 14:26:35 i.e. I might have australia, low resolution, my state at medium resolution, and a couple of towns at high resolution Jul 01 14:26:56 I'll choose which towns to include, and build the appropriate metadata/image wget from that Jul 01 14:27:52 TheCreat0r: -force-depends, it's a bug in the package Jul 01 14:28:26 ah, thanks Jul 01 14:28:31 NAbyss_, would it be hard to change the location? Jul 01 14:28:40 TheCreat0r: that change(strcpy(quality, "Unknown)) didn't seem to do anyting Jul 01 14:28:41 anything* Jul 01 14:29:12 summatusmentis : can you post teh source? Jul 01 14:29:13 dcordes: Not really, just generate a wget script from that link, then plug it in as a new location. As it stands, I think I've got approx. 20 locations in the buildsystem around Aus.. melbourne, sydney, brisbane, etc etc Jul 01 14:29:23 dcordes: Let me just tar it up Jul 01 14:29:34 NAbyss_, ok cool Jul 01 14:29:57 TheCreat0r: yeah, hold on, I'll pastebin it. Do you want the whole source file? or just that section? Jul 01 14:30:09 summatusmentis whole Jul 01 14:30:24 alright Jul 01 14:31:23 TheCreat0r: http://rafb.net/p/ejlkOD60.html Jul 01 14:32:11 dcordes: It's not release quality, so I'll PM it to you Jul 01 14:32:30 NAbyss_, alright thank you very much Jul 01 14:33:36 dcordes: Each location (i.e. directory) has two files - the download script, and the metadata (coords/filename). Just take each half of the output from that site, and modify to fit accordingly.. Jul 01 14:36:10 NAbyss_, how did you get all those coods together? Jul 01 14:36:26 dcordes: From that site I mentioned earlier Jul 01 14:36:47 NAbyss_, 404 :( Jul 01 14:36:59 dcordes: Hmm, let me grab the link again Jul 01 14:37:00 http://gtk.tel.uva.es/ztep/maps/dmap.htm tuat Jul 01 14:37:03 that one? Jul 01 14:37:07 ah, change gtk to gtm Jul 01 14:37:09 typo Jul 01 14:37:28 ok Jul 01 14:39:09 summatusmentis : there is nothing wrong with that line Jul 01 14:39:16 summatusmentis : it must be somewhere else Jul 01 14:40:08 TheCreat0r: 0x4020ac8c in strncpy () from /lib/libc.so.6 when running mb-applet-wireless suggests that source file Jul 01 14:40:14 right? or maybe not? Jul 01 14:40:40 summatusmentis: tried 'bt' ? Jul 01 14:41:25 koen: ? Jul 01 14:41:32 in gdb Jul 01 14:42:01 NAbyss_: Any idea why ipkg would be complaining about not finding a package even though it comes up in an ipkg list? Jul 01 14:42:27 gotta run, summatusmentis ill give you a hand if your still stuck when i get back Jul 01 14:42:47 TheCreat0r: alright, thanks alot for all your help Jul 01 14:42:54 BigAl: No idea Jul 01 14:42:57 np, ciao Jul 01 14:43:23 BigAl: most likely the wrong architecture Jul 01 14:43:47 koen: armv5te is ok for spitz, isn't it? Jul 01 14:44:35 koen: ok, I'm seeing #{0,1,2,3,4}. What am I looking for? Jul 01 14:45:40 NAbyss_, ah now I'm understanding the whole thing... very useful! Thanks again Jul 01 14:50:38 dcordes: np :) Jul 01 14:55:15 hrm... I thought this was gonna be a relatively easy fix Jul 01 14:55:46 Ah-hah, got it. Needed an arch.conf Jul 01 15:01:06 how do I rebuild a packge, using changed source code? just rerun bitbake 'package name' ? Jul 01 15:02:31 summatusmentis: bitbake -cclean package && bitbake package Jul 01 15:02:48 actually, hang on.. Jul 01 15:02:55 you ran bitbake first, then changed the source in tmp/work? Jul 01 15:03:00 yes Jul 01 15:03:02 if that's the case, just -ccompile package Jul 01 15:03:08 ok, thanks Jul 01 15:05:42 NAbyss_: are you sure? that doesn't seem to have built anything Jul 01 15:06:07 summatusmentis: Hmm, you might have to remove the stamp for do_compile Jul 01 15:06:20 erm... where is that? Jul 01 15:06:30 tmp/stamps/package.do_compile Jul 01 15:06:51 and just delete it? Jul 01 15:07:00 Ja Jul 01 15:07:41 thanks Jul 01 15:09:51 is there a way to get gpsdrive to run faster, cause its really slow on the Akita atleast ._. Jul 01 15:10:23 Furre: Profile it and optimise the code? :) Jul 01 15:11:21 no clue howto do that so probably too advanced for me, but hmm, when you run gpsdrive, at what rate do your screen update? here its like, each 2-3seconds, making it very frustrating to actually do anything :x Jul 01 15:11:39 Hmm, I haven't run it lately, but it's at least 2Hz from memory Jul 01 15:11:46 If not more Jul 01 15:12:17 very wierd x.x Jul 01 15:12:28 I'm running on borzoi though Jul 01 15:12:31 have you modified it yourself somehow? Jul 01 15:12:35 whats borzoi? Jul 01 15:12:35 Not sure how that compares to akita Jul 01 15:12:38 c3100 Jul 01 15:12:45 aah, doubt there would be any difference :x Jul 01 15:13:07 Only component I've played with is gpsd, because my gps is kinda funny Jul 01 15:15:50 is there any other gps software that one can run? Jul 01 15:16:01 qpegps for opie.. Jul 01 15:16:32 kinda ment for gpe but oh well :x, maybe there will be working bette rin the feature? :x Jul 01 15:16:39 well, don't the 3x00 series have a graphics porcessor or something? Jul 01 15:16:42 What's a good music player for gpe? Jul 01 15:16:47 Not really.. they're both as bad as each other. Jul 01 15:16:56 BigAl: I have yet to find one Jul 01 15:17:01 summatusmentis: Nope, that's the sl5500 or 6000, iirc Jul 01 15:17:26 BigAl: xterm + madplay Jul 01 15:17:36 NAbyss_: I thought there was something about the 3x00 series that had something like iwxmmt(or something, I can't remember) Jul 01 15:17:44 Looks like it'll be ogg123 and madplay with a shell script Jul 01 15:17:59 summatusmentis: Yeah, the pxa270 has iwmmxt.. but that's no GPU Jul 01 15:18:07 dinnertime *afk* Jul 01 15:18:42 NAbyss_: oh... :-/ I knew it helped out mplayer... nvm Jul 01 15:19:13 summatusmentis: It's good for iDCT in mpeg decoding, but that's about it afaik.. only helps with the codec, not the bitblitting Jul 01 15:19:29 oh, ok Jul 01 15:19:41 * summatusmentis is a n00b, ignore him Jul 01 15:19:49 summatusmentis: You only learn by asking :) Jul 01 15:20:14 lol, I suppose, I feel stupid by asking too :-P Jul 01 16:05:15 hmm, which ttyS is the one for USB when using a GPS device? o.o Jul 01 16:13:08 trying cat ttyS0 to S2 gives nothing at all :/, wierd x.x Jul 01 16:14:59 try ttyUSB0 or similar Jul 01 16:15:34 some nice gui frontend for hal that displays such info would be nice Jul 01 16:15:49 or maybe just popups using libnotify Jul 01 16:15:52 CoreDump|home, not showing anything at all :/ Jul 01 16:16:09 "you plugged un a usb serial device, portnumber /dev/ttyUSB0" Jul 01 16:16:14 Furre: dmesg Jul 01 16:16:21 koen: that would rock Jul 01 16:16:24 oh wait, was it here there was an error in the driver? @.@, what was the name of the driver, iwas it like, module-pl2303 ? Jul 01 16:16:36 was* Jul 01 16:16:55 I think I remember having to redownload it, but not sure what the name of it is :/ Jul 01 16:18:35 ah, kernel-module-pl2303 it was Jul 01 16:20:28 hmm, is there a way to like, re-awake the CF slot? it appears not to register any CF card inserted :/ Jul 01 16:20:45 pccardctl eject ; pccardctl insert Jul 01 16:21:41 ah thanks, taht gave it power atleast :) Jul 01 16:37:25 aww, now wlan card stopped working, AP says its connected to it, but I cant ping anything from the Z, nor get connection x.x Jul 01 16:40:19 does ipkg-link come with the angstrom x11 install? Jul 01 16:41:33 no, ipkg-link is broken, so it isn't in the feeds Jul 01 16:41:48 koen : oh Jul 01 16:41:57 100% of the users can't fix the errors it introduces when using it Jul 01 16:42:18 koen : so only installing on internal flash? Jul 01 16:42:46 you can install software to where you want Jul 01 16:43:14 just don't expect it to work properly when overriding the destroot Jul 01 16:43:45 koen : yeah, ofcourse, so whats going to happen to ipkg-link? getting replaced? Jul 01 16:43:55 no Jul 01 16:44:12 if people want to install stuff to say, SD, they should be able to boot from sd Jul 01 16:44:43 you mean chroot to it? Jul 01 16:44:49 hmm.. Jul 01 16:45:14 chroot, or just boot straight into it Jul 01 16:45:23 the Familiar way - defining multiple install paths in ipkg.conf - is it still awailable? Jul 01 16:45:40 Darth_Wa1er: see above Jul 01 16:45:57 ? Jul 01 16:46:01 it was ipkg-link? Jul 01 16:46:04 and that's not 'the Familiar way', it's a standard feature of ipkg Jul 01 16:46:59 koen : do you happen to know how fast the sd slot on akita is? just wondering how much slower it would be to boot into sd Jul 01 16:47:17 depends on your sd card Jul 01 16:47:27 so there is no limit on the slot? Jul 01 16:47:28 but I don't notice a big speed difference on my machines Jul 01 16:47:36 oh ok Jul 01 16:47:49 there's a limit on the slot, but a slow sd card will be slow regardless of how fast the sd controller is Jul 01 16:48:10 will it be able to keep up with 150x speed? Jul 01 16:48:14 "live on the edge, mount async" Jul 01 16:48:21 lol koen Jul 01 16:48:23 and uber-fast cards don't work at all :\ Jul 01 16:48:54 koen you use altboot? Jul 01 16:48:58 my sandisk OMG WTF ULTRA 2 1gb cards give mixed results Jul 01 16:49:16 TheCreat0r: no, I don't use devices where altboot works on Jul 01 16:49:23 oh Jul 01 16:49:38 incidentally, all those devices have a (semi) sane bootloader :) Jul 01 16:50:42 ok so to boot into an sd, you could install the minimal angstrom image, then a bootloader, and then an x11 image to sd? Jul 01 16:51:22 on a zaurus I just compile a kernel that boots straight from SD Jul 01 16:51:41 and I unpack the .tar.gz to SD using a cardreader (the fastest way) Jul 01 16:52:04 ah i see Jul 01 16:52:45 do extract the rootfs.tar.gz you wish to use to sd, then compile kernel and install to internal flash, and then it should just boot straight into sd Jul 01 16:52:57 that sound right? Jul 01 16:53:14 right Jul 01 16:53:34 great Jul 01 16:54:41 is there a small howto available on the steps to compiling the kernel ? Jul 01 16:55:11 it basically involves installing OE Jul 01 16:56:20 my vm with OE died yesterday :( better get setting it up again Jul 01 16:56:27 I still need to find a way to teach OE to tag the kernel with the bootdevice for zaurusses Jul 01 16:59:37 CoreDump|home : ok so after installing OE, whats next? Jul 01 17:00:27 edit CMDLINE to change the root partition, then bitbake virtual/kernel Jul 01 17:01:26 so that would be /media/sd Jul 01 17:02:18 no, that would be the device file Jul 01 17:02:37 /dev/mmcblk0p1 rootdelay=5 Jul 01 17:02:56 ah ofcourse Jul 01 17:03:09 also filesystem type of ext3 ok? Jul 01 17:03:18 dunno if that's compiled in Jul 01 17:03:40 note the 'rootdelay' since the card isn't initialized before trying to mount / anymore Jul 01 17:04:09 i see Jul 01 17:04:34 which file systems do you guys use on sd? any which give better performance? Jul 01 17:04:46 hurray, redownloading the PL2303 driver fixed it :3 Jul 01 17:05:08 ext2, as a journal will wear out your card faster Jul 01 17:05:29 you also allocate a swap partition or forget it? Jul 01 17:06:08 I don't use swap Jul 01 17:06:16 ok cool Jul 01 17:14:55 by the way, i used a newer version of monotone and migrated the database, should i just reinstall the oldversion and holdoff migrating the database? Jul 01 17:15:00 angstrom needs an auto-builder :\ Jul 01 17:15:05 or does it not matter Jul 01 18:29:47 Hello... Jul 01 18:31:12 Is there partially a difference between akita and spitz ? I suppose, it will only be the installtion source, isn't it ?= Jul 01 18:31:57 SL-C1000 and SL-C3000 should be the same hardware, exept of the hard drive. Jul 01 18:32:38 BTW: someone told, the last kernel is 2.6.21, is that true ? Jul 01 18:32:44 and a different cpu revision, 16mb nand vs 128MB nand, etc Jul 01 18:33:03 vanguard: 2.6.21 can be built for all zaurus clamshells, yes Jul 01 18:33:05 Oh, I see. Jul 01 18:34:06 koen: I read on the trisoft site, that they are the same. Anyway, I just wondred, because the kernel for akita is still 2.6.20. Jul 01 18:34:50 You might know about my bug with sd-cards. So I have the hope, with 2.6.21 it will be gone . Jul 01 18:34:51 they are the same as is "has screen and keyboard" Jul 01 18:35:25 http://pastebin.ca/598944 - can someone help me with this? problem building qemu Jul 01 18:36:02 Kevin`: ask on #oe Jul 01 18:36:24 koen: BTW: Is there a kind of "wishlist" available, where one can suggest application to port ? Jul 01 18:36:32 hmm. Jul 01 18:36:40 afair, qemu is needed only for locale generation Jul 01 18:38:11 the problem I think is qemu is bieng build with gcc4 Jul 01 18:38:43 if you know how to specify which compiler to use for that package it would probably fix it Jul 01 18:47:55 hi Jul 01 18:48:26 test 123 Jul 01 18:48:40 the test works Jul 01 18:48:55 I thought, I was disconnected. Jul 01 18:49:10 you re-enter Jul 01 18:49:29 is there jpilot on angstrom ? Jul 01 18:49:39 Yes, I did manually, to verify, I am again online. Jul 01 18:50:36 I don't see a jpilot folder in my build system Jul 01 18:50:42 seems not be in there. Jul 01 18:50:47 ok, thanks Jul 01 18:51:09 I have some problems with calendad and I'm searching another program Jul 01 18:51:49 Is there a reason, why neither /home nor /root is in the image ? Jul 01 18:52:08 Failed to open...calendar: eventd_db_new:....converting a version 1 to a version 2 db: table events aleady exist Jul 01 18:52:18 vanguard, maybe those folders are created on first login Jul 01 18:52:20 /home is for user data Jul 01 18:52:40 Oh, yes, that would expalin it. Jul 01 18:53:15 vanguard, and I think root is located in /home Jul 01 18:53:52 dcordes: Hmm, yes, this could be, I did not search there, Jul 01 18:53:55 :) Jul 01 18:53:57 fbreades has bigger toolbar :) Jul 01 18:54:02 thanks for the fix Jul 01 18:57:30 I discovered another "bug" in akita. Maybe it is no bug, maybe it is: A CF-Card will be recognized as /dev/hda and not (as it should be) /dev/hda1. This behaviour was in openzaurus 3.5.4.1 , collie, too. Jul 01 18:58:30 I could not discover the reason, because sometimes it works, sometimes not. My solution was a little script, which tested and mounted new. Jul 01 18:58:58 it's strange Jul 01 18:59:09 vanguard you mean the partition is recognized as /dev/hda? what is /dev/hda recognized as then Jul 01 18:59:41 Kevin`: It should be /dev/hda1. As it is only one partition on it. Jul 01 18:59:58 vanguard BOTH devices should be created. did you check dmesg for any error reading the partition table? Jul 01 19:00:34 how can I read out the battery status from a terminal? Jul 01 19:00:39 apm Jul 01 19:00:50 Sorry, forget everything !!! Jul 01 19:00:51 ok Jul 01 19:01:02 I think there is something wrong with akita battery monitor Jul 01 19:01:07 somebody with zaurus clamshell here? Jul 01 19:01:16 dcordes: I Jul 01 19:01:20 This was not angstrom, it was openzaurus, sorry !!! Jul 01 19:01:34 (Getting already mad !) Jul 01 19:01:50 :) Jul 01 19:01:57 dcordes : im testing my bitbake environment and im getting the error: ERROR: Jul 01 19:01:58 mimecar, does your battery power status show up correctly? Jul 01 19:02:08 i think it works ok Jul 01 19:02:08 NO providers of build target X Jul 01 19:02:16 (for []) Jul 01 19:02:19 TheCreat0r, then there is no .bb file for your desired package Jul 01 19:02:42 when you want to specifiy the .bb file you have to do it like this: bitbake -b bitbakefile.bb Jul 01 19:03:06 dcordes : the OE tutorial just said to type bitbake packageName Jul 01 19:03:09 hmm Jul 01 19:03:28 bye... Jul 01 19:03:48 TheCreat0r, as I said. -b only when you specify the path and filename of your .bb file, otherwise packagename. You have made a typo or the pack does not exist. Jul 01 19:05:49 dcordes : not even bitbake nano works Jul 01 19:06:53 works just fine here Jul 01 19:06:56 must be you Jul 01 19:07:13 TheCreat0r, did you download OE yet? Jul 01 19:07:20 ofcourse Jul 01 19:07:29 try mtn update Jul 01 19:07:32 what does that say? Jul 01 19:08:20 says: Jul 01 19:08:47 mtn: updating along branch 'org.openembedded.dev" Jul 01 19:08:48 then Jul 01 19:08:56 mtn: already up to date at XXXX Jul 01 19:11:34 dcordes : any ideas? Jul 01 19:12:20 mtn pull Jul 01 19:14:19 hehe was just doing that, hopefully it should do the trick Jul 01 19:14:35 might be a good ide Jul 01 19:14:37 a Jul 01 19:14:57 dcordes : same error Jul 01 19:15:30 at the top it says Error: no files to build and then as usual, ERROR: no providers for target nano (for []) Jul 01 19:16:31 TheCreat0r, sorry I have no idea what you did wrong Jul 01 19:16:37 maybe ask in #oe ? Jul 01 19:16:59 dcordes if i look in org.openembedded.dev i can see nano_2.0.6.bb Jul 01 19:17:18 this must be some sort of path error but i set the paths just as the tutorial said Jul 01 19:18:32 TheCreat0r, try "bitbake -b youroefolder/org.openembedded.dev/packages/nano/nano_2.0.6.bb" Jul 01 19:18:40 dcordes : mind showing me your BBPATH ? Jul 01 19:18:53 dcordes : i think that will work, sec Jul 01 19:20:34 dcordes : it begins to build then i get the error bb.parse.ParseError: Could not inherit file classes/autotools.bbclass Jul 01 19:21:24 hmm Jul 01 19:22:02 still noone have any ideas, why bitbake could hand at do_fetch tasks ? Jul 01 19:23:43 TheCreat0r, sorry, no idea. I'm pretty new myself so I guess I'm rather the wrong guy to ask Jul 01 19:23:51 have to leave no Jul 01 19:23:56 s/no/now Jul 01 19:25:08 dcordes : hehe, np, thx for your help Jul 01 21:11:28 TheCreat0r: I haven't had much more time to look at this mb-applet-wireless issue, but do you have any suggestions? Jul 01 21:22:10 does anyone have an ISO image of a bootable MS-DOS cd? Jul 01 21:22:34 CoreDump|home: why would anyone have an MS-DOS _cd_? Jul 01 21:22:54 to upgrade the BIOS of a floppy-less notebook Jul 01 21:23:12 correction: floppy and windows-less Jul 01 21:43:24 oh, I see... hrm Jul 01 21:43:56 the IT person at my HS made one once... I don't remember how he did it though... Jul 01 21:44:15 hrm Jul 01 22:02:15 sup summatusmentis Jul 01 22:54:46 cybane: ? Jul 01 22:56:02 Just saying hi Jul 01 22:56:57 Right now I am trying to figure out the best way to get Angstrom to boot off of a SD card I have so I can use it for testing while maintaining OZ on my 5500 Jul 01 23:06:43 lol, oh, alright Jul 01 23:06:51 I'd use altboot Jul 01 23:06:59 particularly if you've got OZ already on it Jul 01 23:07:35 That is what I am going to do Jul 01 23:07:59 However, I am not finding much documentation on what files need to be where and the proper method Jul 01 23:08:51 I think sd needs to be formatted ext2, then you mkdir boot-images Jul 01 23:09:09 then put a loopback file in the boot-images dir Jul 01 23:11:28 yeah I am not familiar with performing those tasks Jul 01 23:15:02 my normal user can't run the root shell n'either can it do any changes to the gpe settings Jul 01 23:16:39 how can I get rid of that problem? Jul 01 23:28:45 summatusmentis: Well I found out how to make altboot boot the image I want now I have another question for you Jul 01 23:29:31 If I want to use Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070604.rootfs.tar.gz do I need to convert that file into an image first or is it already an image? Jul 01 23:30:19 just unpack to memory card Jul 01 23:30:52 wtf... Jul 01 23:31:10 anyone remembers my wtf about bitbake stuck at do_fetch? Jul 01 23:32:36 * Darth_Wader did a cleanup of working directory... looks like it helped Jul 01 23:35:13 can anyone suggest gui mp3 player that i could use in "blind" mode - e.g without having to look at screen to play/pause/etc... Jul 01 23:48:11 Does anyone know how to make a loopback file? Jul 01 23:48:28 losetup /dev/loopx file Jul 01 23:48:41 or do you mean make the actual file.. Jul 01 23:49:03 The actual file Jul 01 23:49:10 do you want a sparse file Jul 01 23:49:11 ? Jul 01 23:49:20 I am trying to put an Angstrom image on an SD card to boot for testing Jul 01 23:50:11 if you do, dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=1M seek=sizeinmb count=1, if you don't, dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=1M count=sizeinmb Jul 01 23:54:16 cybane: so why do you need loopback then? Jul 01 23:54:43 Because Altboot will not boot the image from just unzipping into the SD card Jul 01 23:55:20 Jul 01 23:55:33 altboot says it wants a loopback file Jul 01 23:55:51 it supports both, loopback and realfs Jul 01 23:56:19 CoreDump|afk: if I use a realfs do I ommit the boot-images folder? Jul 01 23:56:57 yes Jul 02 00:04:48 Or I can just use altboot to make the loopback file from the .tar.gz file I got from the website Jul 02 00:08:54 ROFL nothing ever works the way it should Jul 02 00:32:05 loopback file is not a hard thing to make heh Jul 02 00:32:22 make an empty file of reasonable size, format it, and copy the files to it Jul 02 00:33:02 or if you want to use squashfs/cramfs, run the utility like you would for zip Jul 02 00:33:23 Kevin`: I am used to writing applets and small peices of software for my personal use. This is the first time I have ventured into the OS level work Jul 02 00:34:00 cybane do you want this file to be readwrite? Jul 02 00:34:30 or read only Jul 02 00:35:52 readwrite Jul 02 00:36:04 what filesystem are you putting it on Jul 02 00:36:10 ext2 Jul 02 00:36:12 ok Jul 02 00:36:13 do this Jul 02 00:36:38 dd if=/dev/zero of=filename bs=1M seek=SIZE_IN_MB count=1 Jul 02 00:36:49 should complete rather fast Jul 02 00:36:53 then do this Jul 02 00:37:02 mke2fs filename Jul 02 00:37:11 mke2fs -j if you want ext3 Jul 02 00:37:30 mount -o loop filename /mnt/somewhere Jul 02 00:37:37 then copy files or whatever you need to do Jul 02 00:38:11 of=filename is the .tar.gz file correct? Jul 02 00:38:51 no. Jul 02 00:38:57 that's the name you want for the loop file Jul 02 00:39:34 be sure to allow some extra size beyond the size of the uncompressed files your putting on it Jul 02 00:40:12 when you do this? where exactly am I doing this? Jul 02 00:40:50 do it on a linux system on the sd card or whatever you want the image on Jul 02 00:43:13 as to when, whenever you want I suppose, but now would be a good time if you want further help Jul 02 00:44:08 NAbyss_: How does the dd command know to use a tar.gz file as the source file? Jul 02 00:44:12 he woops Jul 02 00:44:19 that was directed to you Kevin` Jul 02 00:44:22 simple, it doesn't. Jul 02 00:44:26 you'll see Jul 02 00:44:33 cybane: It doesn't Jul 02 00:44:35 I'll have some faith Jul 02 00:44:49 cybane: You create the blank file (think: hdd, fresh from the factory, full of 0s) Jul 02 00:44:58 you then format the "disk" (file) with mke2fs Jul 02 00:45:06 then you untar onto the mounted file Jul 02 00:46:00 the reason i'm using seek instead of count is you will get a sparse file - it won't actually take any space (except the last 1 mb..) until you copy files to it Jul 02 00:47:43 So then I untar into that filename afetr I mount it Jul 02 00:48:01 into the directory you mounted it Jul 02 00:52:06 okay done I hope it works Jul 02 00:52:24 you extracted the tar to it? Jul 02 00:52:34 unmount it, then unmount the sd card, then test Jul 02 00:52:35 yes Jul 02 00:52:48 I am working that now Jul 02 00:52:55 hey, does angstrom support txpower control for prism2? Jul 02 00:53:10 that would be extremely useful, as this card likes to use a lot of power and get hot Jul 02 00:56:31 Well I do not think it is going to work for me. When I try to boot from the SD card it tries to pivot root... and just outputs illegal operation Jul 02 00:56:55 can you boot to a shell and try it yourself? Jul 02 00:59:02 You mean chroot into the SD card? Jul 02 00:59:21 well mount the loop file and pivot or chroot to it Jul 02 01:02:59 when I mount it to /mnt/cf and chroot /mnt/cf I get illegal operation Jul 02 01:03:18 cybane mount what, the sd card? Jul 02 01:03:34 No filename.rootfs.bin Jul 02 01:03:38 ah Jul 02 01:04:11 are you using the latest kernel for your device? Jul 02 01:04:25 I am using OpenZaurus 3.5.4 Jul 02 01:05:03 which is a 2.4 kernel I believe Jul 02 01:05:07 I recall someone recently contributed a better working sd driver for the platform I think your using, but I thought it always worked with loop images Jul 02 01:05:37 Could it be that the collie angstrom image is based off of a 2.6 kernel? Jul 02 01:05:43 cybane if it's bieng picky you could try making a non-sparse file Jul 02 01:05:50 let me check, moment. Jul 02 01:06:19 bart machine # grep -i kernel *collie* Jul 02 01:06:19 MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION ?= "2.6" Jul 02 01:06:19 require conf/machine/include/collie-${MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION}.conf Jul 02 01:06:20 bart machine # Jul 02 01:06:27 seems so Jul 02 01:07:13 angstrom takes so long to compile :/ Jul 02 01:07:27 oh wtf Jul 02 01:07:30 it JUST FINISHED Jul 02 01:07:32 after hours Jul 02 01:07:48 NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 2935 tasks of which 182 didn't need to be rerun and 0 failed. Jul 02 01:07:48 NOTE: build 200707011418: completed Jul 02 01:07:49 weee Jul 02 01:08:33 alright Jul 02 01:08:38 cybane: what was your question? Jul 02 01:09:50 where are the output images and packages put? Jul 02 01:10:26 tmp/deploy/ Jul 02 01:10:45 My question is if it is possible for me to have OpenZaurus Flashed onto my 5500 and then put Angstrom on a SD card and boot between the two depending on my needs Jul 02 01:10:47 hmm Jul 02 01:10:55 I don't see a kernel image, I wonder where it put that Jul 02 01:11:51 Kevin`: tmp/deploy/glibc/images/$machine I'd guess Jul 02 01:12:00 bart h1940 # ls Jul 02 01:12:00 Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070701-h1940.rootfs.jffs2 x11-image-h1940.jffs2 Jul 02 01:12:00 Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070701-h1940.rootfs.tar x11-image-h1940.tar Jul 02 01:12:13 although I found it put the kernel in the tar file Jul 02 01:13:05 cybane: yeah, it is Jul 02 01:13:16 using altboot, you can choose to boot off of sd or flash Jul 02 01:18:09 kinda funny to be using one pda to install stuff on another pda Jul 02 01:18:18 it's one of the only sd card readers I have :) Jul 02 01:18:49 Is there anything wrong with this command mtn db migrate OE.mtn ? Jul 02 01:18:56 Kevin`: that's ok. I used my moms' camera once to redo the NAND on my 3200, because it was the only SD reader I had :-) Jul 02 01:20:12 how can I use a console over usb? Jul 02 01:21:21 you need to setup usb networking Jul 02 01:21:22 or infared I suppose, if that's easier? Jul 02 01:21:29 you can't do it with usbserial? Jul 02 01:22:08 erm.. i don't know if you can or not... Jul 02 01:22:14 easiest way would be wifi Jul 02 01:22:43 only have bluetooth, infared, and usb on the target device Jul 02 01:22:46 summatusmentis: You use 'easy' and 'wifi' in the same sentence? Jul 02 01:23:21 NAbyss_: of course Jul 02 01:23:27 i'll see if the infared is working if it boots properly, I think that can be used directly for a console Jul 02 01:23:30 wifi + ssh = easy Jul 02 01:23:40 and i'd never use it for anything else Jul 02 01:24:04 hmm Jul 02 01:24:14 where's the infared on an sl-c3200 Jul 02 01:24:45 on the left side, when you're looking at the keyboard Jul 02 01:24:52 I mean logically Jul 02 01:24:54 in software Jul 02 01:25:21 oh, umm... settings -> Network Setup Jul 02 01:25:36 eh, I don't have a gui on it Jul 02 01:26:03 oh... /etc/network/interfaces, I think Jul 02 01:26:18 afaict it's called irda0, but I don't know that for sure, never use it Jul 02 01:26:29 I want to use it for serial, not networking Jul 02 01:26:53 why serial? Jul 02 01:27:01 so I can use it for kernel messages Jul 02 01:27:10 ah... hrm Jul 02 01:27:28 you're out of me league then... Jul 02 01:27:31 I can use usb for networking easily enough Jul 02 01:27:35 (wifi on the zaurus) Jul 02 01:28:01 right, I thought you just wanted a prompt, so I was going through networking Jul 02 01:29:24 booting linux, cross your fingers for random magic to happen Jul 02 01:29:37 :-D Jul 02 01:30:16 grumble, linux loaded but angstrom didn't start Jul 02 01:30:28 and no magic messages in the most obvious places Jul 02 01:31:12 Kevin`: Setup your kernel to use serial console then, on /dev/ircomm0? Jul 02 01:32:14 hm i don't have that, maybe I don't have the module for irda loaded on the host Jul 02 02:49:27 hey, don't I have this program? : Jul 02 02:49:37 bin/sh: /mnt/raid/OE/org.openembedded.dev/tmp/cross/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/objcopy: No such file or directory Jul 02 02:49:37 make[1]: *** [arch/arm/boot/Image] Error 1 Jul 02 02:49:37 make: *** [zImage] Error 2 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 02 02:59:56 2007