**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 05 02:59:56 2007 Jul 05 03:10:36 cybane: recommended installed by default Jul 05 03:16:01 plz help me, ipkg upgrade installed the 2.6.21 kernel and modules this morning, it erased the modules for the old kernel (2.6.20.6) but i am still booting into the old kernel. I show that the new kernel image.ipk is installed but under /boot all i see is a broken symlink zImage -> zImage-2.6.21 Jul 05 03:18:57 psokolovsky: Really? Because when I use the cmd line ipkg install /path/to/file -d sd -t /path/to/temp I am always seeing information about recomendations that are not satisfied Jul 05 03:19:06 ultanium: so install old kernel back Jul 05 03:19:35 cybane: that could mean they're simply not available at all Jul 05 03:19:51 They are on my cf card in the same directory Jul 05 03:20:19 I found a work around to it however just wanted to see if there was a more elegant way than what I did Jul 05 03:22:36 cybane: well, installing from file is not the same as installing from feed. it's not supposed to look at "the same directory" (or any other directory for that matter). Jul 05 03:25:01 psokolovsky: was hoping I could just manually install the zImage in /boot but it isn't found in the ipkg files for the kernel. Me thinks the kernel has gone AWOL... :) Jul 05 03:26:21 Ahh gotcha Jul 05 03:26:40 ultanium: you likely look in wrong files Jul 05 03:28:31 ipkg files kernel-2.6.21_2.6.21-r7_spitz.ipk ipkg / files kernel-image-2.6.21_2.6.21-r7_spitz.ipk Jul 05 03:29:38 ultanium: you need kernel image. and of 2.6.20 version apparently Jul 05 03:33:27 psokolovsky: well I can take it back if i must, but would really like to get .21 working and share the bug and workaround so it can be fixed. Phoix had the same prob earlier 2day, not sure if he got his restored yet either. Jul 05 03:36:10 ultanium: well, then just do it ;-). module by module, you'll be able to do it. and yes, it sucks to have such issues, but we're still settling the proper kernel config, etc. I don't use Z, so can't be of more help. Jul 05 03:36:23 well, night, folks! Jul 05 03:36:47 psokolovsky: thanks! and goodnight! Jul 05 06:58:31 <_law_> whats the better choice for husky? xserver-kdrive-imageon_X11R7.1-1.1.0.bb or xserver-kdrive-imageon_1.2.0.bb ? Jul 05 07:03:46 1.2 Jul 05 07:25:35 <_law_> hrw, ok thanks Jul 05 08:16:22 morning Jul 05 09:25:09 hi Jul 05 12:31:26 is there a way to umount '/' and '/home' i keep getting 'device is busy' which is understandable, but i need to use the application 'parted' to resize both those partitions... or is there another way to do that, nor is it not possible? i am running angstrom on a zaurus sl-c3200 Jul 05 12:32:02 Phoix: you need to probably run parted from the sharp emergency recovery boot D+B on poweron stuff Jul 05 12:32:35 i dont know if i have that program in the emergancy startup Jul 05 12:32:39 Phoix: which means you'll need to find a static parted, or abandone your partitions and use fdisk that is already there Jul 05 12:32:48 ok Jul 05 12:33:10 isn't remount / readonly enough? Jul 05 12:33:24 and of course it's possible to kill everything that uses /home Jul 05 12:33:41 polyonymous: no, /home/root kills you there Jul 05 12:33:57 polyonymous: unless you run parted instead of /bin/init :-) Jul 05 12:34:09 hmm.. is init using home/root? Jul 05 12:34:24 polyonymous: no, but every shell you start does Jul 05 12:34:38 you can start shell that doesn't Jul 05 12:34:47 and use exec, of course. Jul 05 12:36:08 and you can login, change $HOME in /etc/passwd, relogin Jul 05 12:36:25 I think that's unnecessary. Jul 05 12:37:09 but it's turning into freak contest now :) Jul 05 12:42:54 could somebody give me a hint on finding out why my akita touchscreen stopped working? Jul 05 12:46:47 its strange i can no longer get into the emergency boot up it keeps booting angstrom... Jul 05 12:47:13 Phoix, wrong buttons? :) Jul 05 12:47:58 D+B held down while switching on after having taken the battery out and it is not connected to the power supply?? isnt that right?' Jul 05 12:48:24 Phoix, I don't remember, I haven't been booting there for ages :) Jul 05 12:48:46 i've done it loads of times the past few days.. Jul 05 12:49:13 well, I can't think of why it may not work, I'm pretty sure you're missing something Jul 05 12:49:14 it doesnt even come up with the sharp logo screen Jul 05 12:49:28 should it? Jul 05 12:49:40 it should on a cold boot i think Jul 05 12:50:10 im going to leave it unplugged and the battery out of it for a while.. lol Jul 05 12:50:36 runt as root, 'poweroff' though Jul 05 12:50:51 havent tried that.. will try it Jul 05 12:51:00 or shutdown -h now Jul 05 12:51:02 i used shutdown -h now Jul 05 12:51:07 yeah Jul 05 12:52:19 Phoix: hit the reset switch Jul 05 12:52:29 tried that aswell Jul 05 12:52:30 dunno about d+b, but "Ok" works after poweroff just fine and I haven't done any resets/battery extractions for ages either. Jul 05 12:53:21 if I remever right, OK works on reboot, D+B D+M needs reset Jul 05 12:53:44 maybe, I don't remember it either right or wrong :) Jul 05 12:55:18 got it to work :) while holding down reset hold down the d+b keys that did it Jul 05 12:55:33 Phoix: thats what I remebered :-) Jul 05 13:00:26 just spent ages installing packages and now realised my root partition was too small :( Jul 05 13:00:41 * polyonymous has one single partition. Jul 05 13:00:56 * XorA has three Jul 05 13:01:00 is that possible on the zaurus? Jul 05 13:01:08 stops my pr0n filling / and crashing everything Jul 05 13:01:27 and I can dual boot with cacko Jul 05 13:01:43 I haven't got anywhere close to filling / :) Jul 05 13:01:59 and I'm sure you can adjust cacko to dualboot anyway Jul 05 13:02:22 polyonymous: not without re-writing sharps HD detect scripts Jul 05 13:02:34 hehe Jul 05 13:03:17 XorA, well, maybe, I can't argue with that. Jul 05 13:03:32 * summatusmentis has 7 partitions Jul 05 13:05:31 oh god :) Jul 05 13:05:36 lol Jul 05 13:23:17 CoreDump|afk: can you make a wiki entry as to how you setup apache for your own local feed? Jul 05 13:25:15 Hi all ! Thanks for updating the feeds ! Jul 05 13:26:42 Just a question: I downloaded the whole feed with wget, but I deleted some files. Is there any way to get the deleted files again ? I do not want to download the whole feed again and I did not find a option in the manual of wgetr. Jul 05 13:26:44 wget Jul 05 13:28:27 wget -r -nc feed Jul 05 13:28:35 no.. Jul 05 13:28:46 wget --help|grep continue Jul 05 13:31:48 Ah, yes, that works ! Thanks ! I have no network or wlan-card at the moment,. so I have to put the whole feed on my sd-card. Jul 05 13:33:18 And I wanted to recursively delete all files with "*-dev*", and (shame on me) , I did the wrong syntax. Jul 05 13:33:36 So, I deleted other packages, too. Jul 05 13:39:14 next time move not delete Jul 05 13:39:56 Yes, this would have been much more clever. Jul 05 13:42:14 Do you know, if there will be a WAP-site for angstrom, if the Neo1973 will vome out ? Jul 05 13:42:26 WAP? Jul 05 13:42:38 WAP is for sick people Jul 05 13:42:53 Not, if you have a flatrate. Jul 05 13:43:09 So it could be nice, to update via WAP. Jul 05 13:43:31 Otherwise updating will be rather expensive, I suppose. Jul 05 13:43:51 are you trying to say that wap has less overhead than http? Jul 05 13:44:14 1st - how many operators still have split gprs to normal-gprs and wap-only-gprs? Jul 05 13:44:40 No, but http costs lots of money for the traffic, in Germany there is a WAP-fltarate for only 5,- Euro/month. Jul 05 13:45:14 hrw: most UK ones Jul 05 13:45:42 weirdos. Jul 05 13:46:13 polyonymous: the idea is to keep bills as complex as possible so the idiots cant work out cheap methods to get stuff Jul 05 13:46:30 polyonymous: remeber these are the same people who will pay more than the cost of a cd for a crappy ring tone Jul 05 13:46:44 XorA, yes, I was just about to remark on my admiration of marketing people :) Jul 05 13:48:03 thank goodness for t-mobile Jul 05 13:48:14 Sry, for my questioning, but thought, it would be nice, to use WAP for installing applications and updating..... Jul 05 13:49:19 vanguard, I doubt it will be done before normal traffic gets cheaper :) You don't have to update your stuff wirelessly, though :) Jul 05 13:49:34 vanguard: it is your way how you will use your wap-gprs Jul 05 13:49:50 * hrw refuse to do any WAP pages. it is just too sick Jul 05 13:50:46 it's not about pages, it's about accessing feeds via wap. And I have no idea about technical part of the challenge. But it definitely wouldn't scratch my own itch. Jul 05 13:50:54 Yes, but IMO it seems to be the cheapes way, to get applications. 19c/10kB is very expensive. Jul 05 13:51:18 I'm not going to have neo, anyway. :) Jul 05 13:51:37 This is with normal gprs, and using WAP it would be 5,-E/month, this is a great difference. Jul 05 13:51:38 vanguard: I suspect you'll get charged the internet rate when provider realises .ipk files arent xml Jul 05 13:51:41 vanguard, can't you connect neo using, say, usb or something like that? Jul 05 13:52:07 XorA, maybe we should encapsulate .ipk into xml then? :) Jul 05 13:52:29 polyonymous: that would be a funky apache module Jul 05 13:52:33 heh Jul 05 13:52:33 oops Jul 05 13:52:35 * polyonymous is gone. Jul 05 13:53:07 polyonymous: Yes, I can instal the feed on sd-card, too. But if want install, when I am mobile, this will be expensive Jul 05 13:53:42 I mean, when I am on the road..... Jul 05 13:53:51 vanguard, you don't want to install on the road, every install has a potential to ruin your system :) Jul 05 13:53:55 but I'm really-really gone Jul 05 13:54:01 * polyonymous is really-really gone Jul 05 13:54:12 Bye polyonymous Jul 05 14:28:56 do all zaurus's have ttyS0, ttyS1, and ttyS2? Jul 05 14:29:26 summatusmentis: any PXA25x has also ttyS3 in addition to that Jul 05 14:29:56 PXA25x... == 3200? Jul 05 14:30:15 summatusmentis: 3x00 has PXA270 Jul 05 14:30:24 iirc, it's the non-clamshells that have a PXA25x Jul 05 14:30:43 no idea. but it's cpu what defines builtin serial ports. Jul 05 14:30:50 NAbyss: ok... I'm trying to figure out if my phone(via usb) is being recognized by the Z, I want to setup DUN Jul 05 14:31:18 sl-5000/5500 is sa1100, sl-5600 is pxa250/255, c700 is pxa250, c750/760/860 and sl-6000 are pxa255. c1000 and c3x00 are pxa27x Jul 05 14:31:32 summatusmentis: Usually, you'll need to insmod cdc-acm and it'll come up as ttyUSB0 Jul 05 14:32:38 NAbyss: is there a specific package for that? Jul 05 14:32:51 summatusmentis: kernel-module-...-cdc-acm Jul 05 14:33:30 NAbyss: ok, looks like 2.6.20 doesn't have it, rebooting to 2.6.21 Jul 05 14:36:38 erm... Jul 05 14:36:50 opie`s start menu item called terminal is such a trap... Jul 05 14:36:58 a trap? Jul 05 14:37:09 NAbyss: any idea how to tell the Z not to boot 2.6.20? Jul 05 14:37:17 yum Jul 05 14:37:19 yup Jul 05 14:37:21 summatusmentis: Er.. flash 2.6.21 onto it? Jul 05 14:37:32 i`ve just switched to neighbour terminal on my ipaq... Jul 05 14:37:44 and it was /dev/vcs terminal, not console one Jul 05 14:37:53 NAbyss: it needs flashing? 3200... it updated to 2.6.21 via ipkg... or seemingly, a bunch of modules are there anway Jul 05 14:38:03 (ipaq are keyboardless :) Jul 05 14:38:11 summatusmentis: To change your boot kernel, you need to flash the zImage Jul 05 14:38:44 grr... NAbyss ok, so then... put the new image on cf, and just use that right? I can leave rootfs intact, etc. Jul 05 14:38:54 Yeah Jul 05 14:38:58 just the updater.sh and zImage Jul 05 14:39:02 ok, thanks Jul 05 14:46:23 * Darth_Wader wants to kill opie-irc author Jul 05 14:47:23 Darth_Wader: why opie? Jul 05 14:50:15 Darth_Wader: why? Jul 05 14:50:51 summatusmentis: it`s more usable on qvga devices even with lack of gui bluetooth connector Jul 05 14:51:09 hrw: author? because he forgotten about non-latin1 speaking people.. Jul 05 14:51:21 and about utf-8 too Jul 05 14:52:08 there was few utf8 fixes for it Jul 05 14:52:14 NAbyss: it's not liking that Jul 05 14:52:25 but opie usually had locale wrong set Jul 05 14:53:11 i`ve just tried starting opieirc from console... Jul 05 14:53:36 and second bad thing about opieirc is that it kinda filtering output messages.. Jul 05 14:53:55 maybe all with ascii 128+ codes Jul 05 14:55:06 NAbyss: actually, nvm, I can't read instructions Jul 05 15:03:42 summatusmentis: I could of course,but there is no magic whatsoever involved Jul 05 15:04:01 hi Jul 05 17:07:15 i have just removed 'xserver-kdrive' and installed 'xserver-xorg' and now x does not work any more.. startx does not seem to exist? am gong to google xserver-xorg, Jul 05 17:10:41 anyone using xserver-xorg on a zaurus running angstrom? Jul 05 17:15:59 is there any web-browser for opie? Jul 05 17:45:42 ciao ciao Jul 05 17:49:44 hi Jul 05 17:52:31 can i disable login every time i suspend pda ? Jul 05 18:04:14 * CoreDump|home dunnos Jul 05 18:18:26 mimecar, yep in the gpe settings tab, in the login or suspend settings Jul 05 18:18:37 I didn't showed it Jul 05 18:18:39 there is some option for that Jul 05 18:19:08 mimecar, do you have gpe or opie? Jul 05 18:19:11 found Jul 05 18:19:14 on login app Jul 05 18:19:14 ok Jul 05 18:19:17 yep Jul 05 18:19:17 thanks Jul 05 18:19:19 np Jul 05 18:19:33 hi dcordes Jul 05 18:19:43 heey :) Jul 05 18:20:15 erdinger__ = dcordes Jul 05 18:20:28 mimecar, could you do me a favour in see what kernel version you have? Jul 05 18:20:36 yes, one second Jul 05 18:21:05 thanks. my touchscreen does not work and I want to find out if it is me who did a mistake or the latest build Jul 05 18:21:10 what's the command for console ' Jul 05 18:21:45 2.6.20.6 Jul 05 18:21:55 is updater than kernel on my pc :P Jul 05 18:23:26 * mimecar should change default icons for gpe on a near future Jul 05 18:23:34 same ehre :) Jul 05 18:23:48 i had a gartoon port for gpe on collie Jul 05 18:23:58 it should be a doog idea update it for angstrom Jul 05 18:24:01 cool I like that theme Jul 05 18:24:14 Yes I would welcome this Jul 05 18:24:29 dcordes: did you see a scrrenshot of that icon theme? Jul 05 18:25:08 mimecar, I think I tried the gonme desktop version of it Jul 05 18:25:38 http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/gallery/albums/themes-and-art/port_27100.png Jul 05 18:26:16 heh looks good on gpe Jul 05 18:26:40 the bad thing is original icon set is not update Jul 05 18:29:09 dcordes: what do you think about tango icon set Jul 05 18:31:48 mimecar, tango gnome icons are cool Jul 05 18:32:21 I don't know now theme I'll update / create Jul 05 18:43:23 hi kRiMe8 Jul 05 18:51:28 CoreDump|home, the process for setting up apache/feed is straightforward? Jul 05 18:52:00 * summatus|PDA is connected via DUN :-) Jul 05 18:52:30 if you abuse your deploy dir as source for apache it is a matter of creating a few symlinks... Jul 05 18:52:34 NOTE: package glibc-2.5-r6: task do_populate_staging: started Jul 05 18:52:37 it takes almost forever... Jul 05 18:53:03 CoreDump|home, symlinks to where? Jul 05 18:53:21 how can I know disp space i will spend on a program Jul 05 18:53:24 on installing it ? Jul 05 18:53:29 and source == DocumentRoot ? Jul 05 18:53:51 your distribution should preconfigure apache for you Jul 05 18:53:51 Darth_Wader: use GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES Jul 05 18:54:07 psokolovsky: ? Jul 05 18:54:19 just symlink deploy somewhere into DocumentRoot Jul 05 18:55:43 I see, so don't mess w/ http.conf at all. and what about all the subdirs to deploy? they're recognized by ipkg? Jul 05 18:59:07 psokolovsky: i`ve turned of binary locale generation at all Jul 05 18:59:21 grr... LAG! Jul 05 19:01:18 time to go out Jul 05 19:01:20 byes... Jul 05 19:02:05 Darth_Wader: ah, if it's still slow, then it's hardware ;-) Jul 05 19:04:17 yup.. it`s the hardware.. but i just can`t imagine what one must create in Makefiles to slow things so heavily Jul 05 19:04:56 * Darth_Wader never liked glibc though Jul 05 19:42:58 Back Jul 05 19:44:05 Can someone be so kind and make a "ipkg search locale" ? The search option is not working here on my 1000 Jul 05 19:44:37 If there is output, please tell me. Jul 05 19:45:48 I would like to localize angstrom to German locales. Is there an easy way ??? Jul 05 19:59:53 The Sharp Zaurus collie Ångström initrd/zimage, are they basically a test console boot images? Jul 05 20:01:09 Or is there software.. opie/x11 Jul 05 20:14:51 TuomasT: It is only console, because X11 did not fit in the image. Jul 05 20:15:28 You can install into sd, after flashing. There is a X11-image available, as far as i KNOW. Jul 05 20:45:51 re Jul 05 20:46:36 hi mim Jul 05 20:46:45 mimecar* sorry :-) Jul 05 20:46:51 xDD Jul 05 20:47:22 nick completion is not easy, you need a high degree Jul 05 20:47:25 ;) Jul 05 20:47:45 lol, I can't type for some reason today, I missed the tab key Jul 05 20:48:16 did you trowed the keyboard throught the windows ? Jul 05 20:48:44 no, I just suck :-) Jul 05 23:12:44 hi Jul 05 23:13:06 re Jul 05 23:14:34 the build of process of angstrom-x11-image failed with the error "cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-base-extended: bluez-dtl1-workaround. For me that sounds like something went wrong building that packages, so it could not be included into the image. Is that right? How can I geet around that? Jul 05 23:15:42 i`ve recently seen something about dtl1 Jul 05 23:15:56 dcordes: please pull, update, and rebuild. it shouldn't happen any longer. in worst case, just build that package manually and then retry original build. Jul 05 23:21:45 psokolovsky: did you just fix that? Jul 05 23:22:05 I started my build this afternoon Jul 05 23:22:14 MET Jul 05 23:22:51 dcordes: not just, but it is fixed for 7-8 hours I guess Jul 05 23:24:26 psokolovsky: ok thank you very much. I hope I will get rid of the touchscreen thing after build. I completely rebuilt because I think there was something wrong with my last build, as also the terminal did not start and a few other things. Jul 05 23:25:50 ok, hope it indeed will help Jul 05 23:26:17 psokolovsky: I just tried bitbake angstrom-x11-image again but it failed ending up in the same error again after a few seconds Jul 05 23:26:27 Do I have to -c rebuild? Jul 05 23:27:11 try bitbkae bluez-dtl1-workaround; bitbake angstrom-x11-image Jul 05 23:27:19 *bitbake Jul 05 23:27:37 btw, what is dtl1? Jul 05 23:28:07 dcordes: yes, please do that. Jul 05 23:28:09 I have no idea Jul 05 23:28:20 Darth_Wader: some crappy BT card with broken driver. Jul 05 23:28:41 _not_ onboard? Jul 05 23:28:50 that reminds me on trying my usb bt device with the akita! Jul 05 23:28:59 nope, CF Jul 05 23:29:17 erm.. so why does it compiled in -image then? Jul 05 23:29:32 maybe its better to make it optional? Jul 05 23:29:51 Darth_Wader: Maybe that is because so many people use bluetooth on their devices Jul 05 23:30:10 Darth_Wader: it is optional. only devices with CF slot select it. Jul 05 23:30:14 like with the prism cards. They aren't onboard either but still hostapd is included Jul 05 23:30:22 hm.. Jul 05 23:30:32 NOTE: build 200707060128: completed Jul 05 23:30:37 so my further builds will need it too... Jul 05 23:30:37 thank you very much again Jul 05 23:30:57 even if i don`t know what the card is it.. good :/ Jul 05 23:31:24 (my ipaq 2210 -- cf+mmc/sd+internal bt) Jul 05 23:32:13 I whish the zaurus had included bt Jul 05 23:32:22 also a little atheros inside would be great Jul 05 23:32:30 Darth_Wader: it's bad, or more precisely, that code which is now bluez-dtl1-workaround is bad. it breaks up BT connection on suspend/resume for *any* card. Jul 05 23:32:53 not as bad as it sounds Jul 05 23:32:59 Another way to not have it in image is to not enable dtl1-cs driver in kernel config. Jul 05 23:33:05 my ipaq does same shit anyways Jul 05 23:33:29 is it possible to use bluetooth 2.0 devices with those modules? Jul 05 23:34:16 * Darth_Wader wants to kill the ones who decided to put Zeevo chips in IPAQs Jul 05 23:34:35 Darth_Wader: if you mean wince, then I have to say that sh%tty BT working was actually the reason why I started to work on Linux port. You may imagine my rage when I saw that linux had the same crap ;-). Thankfully, here it can be easily fixed. Jul 05 23:34:46 no.. Jul 05 23:34:59 this ipaq is linux-only Jul 05 23:35:44 i have to do off/on cycle on resume to bluetooth to get it working or else it would be kinda hanged Jul 05 23:36:21 i don`t know if it zeevo chip or bluez fault but it exists... at least since familiar 0.8.4 Jul 05 23:38:20 Darth_Wader: so, the aim is to get rid of such "workings", and make sure that device features, BT in particular work robustly across suspend. Jul 05 23:39:38 maybe.. Jul 05 23:40:07 and it would be a big luck if someone will port the bluetooth fix from wm2003 to bluez stack Jul 05 23:40:30 fix from wm2003? lol Jul 05 23:40:47 :) Jul 05 23:40:48 it look like it patches something in the firmware.. it`s only about 10kb in size Jul 05 23:41:21 * dcordes booting Jul 05 23:42:58 * dcordes has a working TS again Jul 05 23:48:36 when I try to become root with the user I just created, I get su: cannot set groups: Operation not permitted. Before I started putting the system on SD card that was working. How can I make it work again? Jul 05 23:52:47 dcordes: congrats on TS (make sure you submit patches as needed), not sure what you got with su. try to login as root in the first place. Jul 05 23:52:48 gn! Jul 05 23:53:29 btw Jul 05 23:53:38 i`ve found one bad thing of opie-image Jul 05 23:53:51 it omits almost all vital comm modules for h2200 Jul 05 23:53:58 e.g irda&bluetooth Jul 05 23:54:21 they got built, but wouldn`t install by default Jul 05 23:54:37 psokolovsky: oh I didn't fix anything :) Jul 05 23:54:53 I can login as root but I can't do the password required things in GPE Jul 05 23:54:59 (with the normal user) Jul 05 23:56:01 Darth_Wader, no worries, they doesn't work mostly either :) Jul 05 23:56:12 maybe Jul 05 23:56:17 but not with h2200 Jul 05 23:56:40 there works everything :) Jul 05 23:56:45 Darth_Wader, I think it's not related to device. Jul 05 23:56:50 in oe? Jul 05 23:56:57 in h2200 port Jul 05 23:57:27 afaiu, the h221x and hx470x are most well-supported ipaqs Jul 05 23:58:03 well, psokolovsky knowns better, but for what I know irda/bt breakage has nothing to do with the device. Well, maybe irda does, although I doubt it. Jul 05 23:58:20 irda works... Jul 05 23:58:40 just used it some hours ago :) Jul 05 23:59:00 and bluetooth to - i`ve currently logged in to ipaq via bnep Jul 05 23:59:06 Darth_Wader, well, irda is in somewhat better state it partially works, I think. Jul 05 23:59:12 Darth_Wader, in opie? Jul 06 00:00:07 bluetooth was initiated through console, but actual bnep connection was made via opie bt manager Jul 06 00:01:00 Darth_Wader, that may work. you can't, though, controll bt stack from opie, I think. Jul 06 00:01:32 yup, but Marex are doing something weird to opie bluetooth right now Jul 06 00:02:06 wassup? Jul 06 00:02:33 nothing but highlight Jul 06 00:02:56 hey Marex :) Jul 06 00:03:05 hi polyonymous :) Jul 06 00:03:34 tried the poky qemu yet? Jul 06 00:03:48 current status - btapplet loads/unloads bt driver kernel module, enables/disables bt, enables visibility ... disabling will be a bit harder :T Jul 06 00:03:59 polyonymous, not yet :T Jul 06 00:04:02 Marex, via dbus? Jul 06 00:04:12 via hciconfig calls.. Jul 06 00:04:14 polyonymous, I dont want to use dbus Jul 06 00:04:24 Marex, how do you control modern bluez? Jul 06 00:04:30 ah Jul 06 00:04:43 yeah, some cheating :) Jul 06 00:04:47 btw Jul 06 00:04:57 I don't think it's a good idea, but well... Jul 06 00:05:00 Marex: hciconfig noscan was broken there? Jul 06 00:05:33 psokolovsky, implementing dbus into opie would be like making facioplastic to rotting corpse Jul 06 00:06:03 CoreDump|afk: when you have the time, would you mind terribly pastebin'ing your httpd.conf? Jul 06 00:06:06 Darth_Wader, I havent implemented it yet :b Jul 06 00:06:10 Marex, here you're right. But psokolovsky yourself :) Jul 06 00:06:31 summatusmentis, what's up with httpd.conf? :) Jul 06 00:06:31 eek! :-X Jul 06 00:07:02 polyonymous: trying to setup a local feed, and I'm either not understanding what CoreDump|afk was explaining, or I'm just really freaking dense Jul 06 00:07:17 summatusmentis, what is your problem? I, of course, use a local feed. Jul 06 00:07:23 if only bluez reported its status to sysfs :T Jul 06 00:07:38 summatusmentis, and basically, what I have is Alias /angstrom-feed/ /home/hacker/OE/angstrom/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/ Jul 06 00:08:04 Marex: which status? Jul 06 00:08:19 Darth_Wader, huh? Jul 06 00:08:23 ah ... Jul 06 00:08:46 any info that hciconfig returns ... it cant be found in sysfs I guess Jul 06 00:08:46 polyonymous: thanks :-) he was talking about symlinks, and DocumentRoot(which doesn't seem to be set for some reason) Jul 06 00:09:08 summatusmentis, you can also symlink and Options FollowSymlinks in your docroot. Jul 06 00:09:25 summatusmentis, do you have _anything_ in your apache? like default vhost? Jul 06 00:10:20 polyonymous: yeah, there's all sorts of stuff Jul 06 00:10:23 * summatusmentis is an apache newb Jul 06 00:10:38 summatusmentis, well, if you have anything then alias at toplevel may do the trick for you Jul 06 00:10:58 polyonymous: thanks, I'll try this Jul 06 00:11:07 summatusmentis, you're welcome and good luck :) Jul 06 00:11:20 summatusmentis, you may have to adjust your feeds in /etc/ipkg.conf too, though. Jul 06 00:11:47 I'm afraid it's not controlled properly via local.conf, but maybe I'm a bit behind, though. Jul 06 00:11:50 polyonymous: well, right, will going from angstrom feed to local feed screw anything up? Jul 06 00:12:05 summatusmentis, I never ever used official feeds :) Jul 06 00:12:29 summatusmentis, but redoing the whole bind doesn't screw everything up. Anything... maybe, not sure. But no major screwup Jul 06 00:12:42 s/bind/build/ Jul 06 00:13:30 alright, thanks Jul 06 00:18:06 btw, one more about opie Jul 06 00:18:27 maybe opie-batteryapplet should be included into opie-image? Jul 06 00:20:27 maybe. But it's not so basic and it increases image size. Well... Goodnight, anyway :) Jul 06 00:20:38 bb Jul 06 00:21:26 battery applet`s .ipk is only 20kb in size Jul 06 00:26:39 will creating a swap partition speed up my akita? Jul 06 00:33:27 polyonymous: what're the perms on that deploy dir(in order for the feed to work) Jul 06 00:42:22 oh.. he's asleep... guess i miseed that Jul 06 00:43:34 summatusmentis: i think 755 for dir would be sufficient :) Jul 06 00:44:18 Darth_Wader: I'm unfamiliar w/ the numbering... care to translate to rwx lingo? Jul 06 00:44:27 rwxr-xr-x Jul 06 00:45:08 that's what I've got... getting perm denied Jul 06 00:45:14 it`s simple - 1 for eXecute 2 for write 4 for read Jul 06 00:45:22 403 denied? Jul 06 00:45:34 Forbidden Jul 06 00:46:02 but 403 anyway Jul 06 00:46:06 yes Jul 06 00:46:27 so it may be unrelated to fs permissions but may be missing index.html and no autoindex turned on Jul 06 00:46:51 it is missing an index.html, because it's the feed page... Jul 06 00:47:00 /angstrom-feed/ Jul 06 00:47:01 Im new to this stuff, i want to paqckage up some perl modules from CPAN to angstrom using the OE build tool, can anyone tell me if this ispossible? Jul 06 00:47:27 i think u`d better to ask in #oe Jul 06 00:47:34 thx Jul 06 00:48:05 summatusmentis: echo "Option +Indexes" > /.htaccess Jul 06 00:49:44 Darth_Wader: still 403 Jul 06 00:50:14 hm.. maybe your httpd.conf disallows use of .htaccess by default Jul 06 00:50:42 ugh..gentoo :-/ Jul 06 00:50:50 never used it Jul 06 00:52:45 Darth_Wader: AccessFileName .htaccess Jul 06 00:52:48 seemingly not? Jul 06 00:53:26 sounds like it`s ok to .htaccess Jul 06 00:53:34 maybe you just misplaced it Jul 06 00:55:24 doesn't look like it Jul 06 00:55:42 Alias /angstrom-feed/ /mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/build/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/ Jul 06 00:55:58 and I did echo "Option +Indexes" > /mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/build/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/.htaccess Jul 06 00:55:58 and .htaccess in /mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/build/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/ ? Jul 06 00:56:14 hm.. Jul 06 00:56:33 do I need to restart apache? Jul 06 00:57:01 nope Jul 06 00:57:03 no, it should apply immediately after refresh Jul 06 00:57:15 (refresh of page in browser) Jul 06 00:58:03 doesn't do anything Jul 06 00:59:01 oh. Jul 06 00:59:25