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Jul 07 03:00:31 <nil> nothing... maybe it's not installed as a gpe dependency....
Jul 07 03:00:40 <NAbyss> I'd imagine it should be... that's rather odd
Jul 07 03:00:48 <NAbyss> That may explain the failure though
Jul 07 03:00:55 <nil> hehe, yes :)
Jul 07 03:01:47 <nil> xserver-common *is* installed
Jul 07 03:03:12 <NAbyss> You might be missing an actual xserver rather than the common files
Jul 07 03:04:08 <nil> haha, xinit *not* installed
Jul 07 03:04:58 <nil> i guess xserver-kdrive-fbdev is the one I need
Jul 07 03:05:13 <NAbyss> Sounds about right, yeah
Jul 07 03:05:50 <nil> installing...
Jul 07 03:06:49 <NAbyss> nil: I'd file a bug against gpe-dm for that.. make the error message more clear (no X server found etc.)
Jul 07 03:06:58 <nil> ok, staring!
Jul 07 03:07:17 <nil> starting
Jul 07 03:07:19 <nil> stanks
Jul 07 03:07:32 <nil> well, thanks :)
Jul 07 03:09:34 <NAbyss> no probs :)
Jul 07 03:37:16 <nil> NAbyss: and, from the (X) login screen, how do I get back to the console? Fn+left/right does nothing
Jul 07 03:40:08 <nil> ah, yes, chvt
Jul 07 03:43:43 <readon_> NAbyss, it works now:)
Jul 07 04:05:59 <readon_> how to use feed in angstrom-distribution.org?
Jul 07 04:06:45 <nil> readon_: i guess you have to update your /etc/ipkg.cong
Jul 07 04:06:47 <nil> readon_: i guess you have to update your /etc/ipkg.conf
Jul 07 04:07:23 <readon_> i use debian but it did not have ipkg packages
Jul 07 04:07:35 <nil> ah...
Jul 07 04:11:54 <readon_> is there tools that can help me build a image with ipkg packages and angstrom-minimal-image?
Jul 07 06:42:18 <nil> anyone knows where to find a working unison ipk ?
Jul 07 08:23:23 <koen|edinburgh> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.angstrom.devel
Jul 07 08:23:26 <koen|edinburgh> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.angstrom.user
Jul 07 08:31:20 * Furre wonders what koen is doing in edinburgh :)
Jul 07 08:43:08 <readon_> how to use tar.gz files? i know the usage of jffs2 and ext2.gz
Jul 07 09:23:43 <wvdschel> hi
Jul 07 09:24:12 <wvdschel> is there anyone here who knows where to find a decent userland for the h3800
Jul 07 10:04:04 <psokolovsky> wvdschel: finish 2.6 kernel port, and build Angstrom for it ;-)
Jul 07 10:16:16 <wvdschel> psokolovsky, I meant like something to put on it today ;)
Jul 07 10:16:30 <wvdschel> besides, I'm trying to port the kernel to the MP7x0
Jul 07 10:17:36 <psokolovsky> wvdschel: cool, then you really can't get around h3800's kernel too ;-)
Jul 07 12:07:25 <tobb> ok I've setup a scratchbox env with oe, can I install ipkgs built with oe into the scratchbox env?
Jul 07 12:09:07 <Laibsch> I think your question is better suited to #oe
Jul 07 12:09:21 <Laibsch> scratchbox like the scratchbox cross-compiler?
Jul 07 12:09:37 <Laibsch> I was unaware that oe and scratchbox can cooperate
Jul 07 12:09:58 <tobb> yeah, I got angstrom compilers setup in scratchbox
Jul 07 12:56:48 <readon> http://ossfans.org/paste?id=b82eb8
Jul 07 12:57:07 <readon> was this bug solved?
Jul 07 13:04:54 <XorA|gone> readon: was it logged in bugtracker?
Jul 07 13:05:06 <XorA|gone> readon: Ive never seen that one and I build jpeg a lot
Jul 07 13:19:26 <readon> XorA|gone, actually i met a error "arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuratio
Jul 07 13:19:26 <readon> n
Jul 07 13:19:26 <readon> arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
Jul 07 13:19:26 <readon> make: *** [apmd.o] Error 1
Jul 07 13:19:26 <readon> "
Jul 07 13:19:43 <readon> when i compile apmd
Jul 07 14:47:17 <summatusmentis> does anyone have a ppp dial out/hang up script written?
Jul 07 14:47:34 <mimecar> i don't
Jul 07 14:52:00 <mimecar> norning / evening / night dcordes ;)
Jul 07 14:52:19 <dcordes> hey mimecar, MET here.
Jul 07 14:52:37 <dcordes> mimecar, did you find time for the GPE icons yet :) ?
Jul 07 14:52:47 <mimecar> last week of this month
Jul 07 14:52:50 <mimecar> hi koen
Jul 07 14:53:18 <koen|inverness_> hey mimecar 
Jul 07 15:00:39 <mimecar> dcordes: have you suggestions ?
Jul 07 15:00:53 <dcordes> mimecar, for the icons?
Jul 07 15:00:59 <mimecar> yes
Jul 07 15:01:08 <dcordes> it would be nice to have them as .ipk
Jul 07 15:01:26 <mimecar> las time i worked with icons, i overwrite original icons
Jul 07 15:01:48 <dcordes> mimecar, in angstrom?
Jul 07 15:01:49 <mimecar> shall I do the same, or change icon depending of mathcbox theme ?
Jul 07 15:01:55 <mimecar> on openzaurus with gpe
Jul 07 15:02:06 <dcordes> would be cool with a theme! so there is no hassle installing them
Jul 07 15:02:11 <dcordes> and you can switch back
Jul 07 15:03:18 <mimecar> i saw some theme witch can change icons
Jul 07 15:03:34 <mimecar> i'll read matchbox manual
Jul 07 15:04:53 <dcordes> mimecar, let me know if you need any help. between: do you use wifi with your zaurus?
Jul 07 15:05:16 <mimecar> yes, i use wifi
Jul 07 15:05:23 <dcordes> mimecar, CF?
Jul 07 15:05:59 <mimecar> yes, a dlink 660w
Jul 07 15:13:21 <dcordes> mimecar, that is prism2, isn't it?
Jul 07 15:13:47 <mimecar> i thinkso
Jul 07 15:14:08 <dcordes> do you have WPA encryption with it?
Jul 07 15:14:27 <mimecar> this model haven't wpa
Jul 07 15:14:55 <dcordes> I heard something about a new firmware that makes wpa available with prism2 chipsets
Jul 07 15:15:42 <mimecar> it would be useful
Jul 07 15:16:01 <mimecar> but use a vpn connection is a higher priority for me
Jul 07 15:19:48 <mimecar> how can i change windows title font on matchbox ?
Jul 07 15:21:07 <summatusmentis> has anyone found a good GUI media/mp3 player?
Jul 07 15:21:17 <XorA|gone> dcordes: install prism-firmware and all hostap cards can use wpa
Jul 07 15:21:48 <Darth_Wader> summatusmentis: yes. opie-player :)
Jul 07 15:22:15 <mimecar> summatusmentis: madplay :P
Jul 07 15:22:21 <XorA|gone> Darth_Wader: he said good :-)
Jul 07 15:22:34 <mimecar> that's good
Jul 07 15:22:35 <summatusmentis> Darth_Wader: can't use that in gpe :-) and there's no wy that'd come close to making up for the rest of opie either
Jul 07 15:22:42 <summatusmentis> mimecar: madplay is CLI, right?
Jul 07 15:22:50 <mimecar> CLI ?
Jul 07 15:22:58 <summatusmentis> command line
Jul 07 15:23:09 <mimecar> yes, it¡s commandline
Jul 07 15:23:27 <summatusmentis> CLI == CommandLineInterface
Jul 07 15:23:38 <mimecar> you tell the music folder and begin the music :)
Jul 07 15:23:39 <mimecar> ok
Jul 07 15:24:01 <Darth_Wader> XorA|gone: it`s definitely good. at least, never seen anything near as usable as opie-player for gpe 
Jul 07 15:24:27 <summatusmentis> I'm looking for a video/music player.... something that could wrap mplayer for video, and use playlists as well
Jul 07 15:24:31 <mimecar> I love mp3 player of the original rom
Jul 07 15:24:39 <mimecar> clean design and works very good
Jul 07 15:24:52 <koen|inverness_> XorA|gone: I pinged the psx dude to send you or me a link to the source so we can build packages for it, so don't be surprised if he contacts you
Jul 07 15:25:09 <summatusmentis> encoding videos for terrier makes a large file :-/
Jul 07 15:25:20 <XorA|gone> large?
Jul 07 15:25:41 <mimecar> pokemon the movie is a large video :P
Jul 07 15:25:42 <summatusmentis> well... when you've got 8 partitions, and the largest being 1.9GB, 810MB is large
Jul 07 15:26:16 <dcordes> hi there, XorA|gone, that's what I was looking for :) 
Jul 07 15:26:26 <XorA|gone> 200M for 45 mins for me, but I could probably drop the bitrate and save a lot on that
Jul 07 15:26:50 <XorA|gone> bizarre, music made using spectrum tape sounds
Jul 07 15:26:51 <summatusmentis> bitrate... hrm... I ripped directly from DVD, and it's a full length movie
Jul 07 15:27:14 <summatusmentis> XorA|gone: how does dropping bitrate work?
Jul 07 15:27:14 <XorA|gone> -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=400
Jul 07 15:27:35 <mimecar> you can use virtualdub on windows
Jul 07 15:27:48 <XorA|gone> but from memory 300kbits is watchable, same 1/4 on my 200M
Jul 07 15:28:12 <XorA|gone> http://zxm.speccy.cz/files/down/psb%5Ehalloween%5Etriumph-tap_music.mp3
Jul 07 15:28:33 <summatusmentis> -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=400 <-- arguments to which command?
Jul 07 15:29:06 <XorA|gone> summatusmentis: mencoder
Jul 07 15:29:14 <summatusmentis> ok
Jul 07 15:29:23 <XorA|gone> summatusmentis: see email I sent to angstrom-users a few days ago
Jul 07 15:29:29 <XorA|gone> summatusmentis: that has the full script
Jul 07 15:29:41 <summatusmentis> XorA|gone: alright, thanks
Jul 07 15:30:04 <XorA|gone>  [Angstrom-distro-users] Encoding and playing movies under   Angstrom on Spitz
Jul 07 15:30:51 <XorA|gone> in that tread
Jul 07 15:31:07 <XorA|gone> koen|inverness_: psx4all4angstrom would be good
Jul 07 15:31:10 <summatusmentis> alright, coo, thanks
Jul 07 15:31:12 * summatusmentis goes to find
Jul 07 15:31:28 <summatusmentis> cool*
Jul 07 15:31:40 <XorA|gone> reminds me, must see about buying cradle for my gp2x
Jul 07 15:35:59 <summatusmentis> XorA|gone: 320x240?
Jul 07 15:36:25 <mimecar> do gpe-task use sqlite for data ?
Jul 07 15:38:05 <XorA|gone> summatusmentis: that is the size of screen best used
Jul 07 15:38:23 <summatusmentis> 640x480 doesn't work?
Jul 07 15:38:39 <XorA|gone> summatusmentis: pxa->ram doesnt have enough bandwidth to render that
Jul 07 15:38:59 <summatusmentis> damn... :-/ then I'm gonna need to reencode this thing
Jul 07 15:39:00 <XorA|gone> summatusmentis: if you use iwmmxt mplayer with -vo pxa, it will zoom automatically if you use -vm
Jul 07 15:40:28 <summatusmentis> XorA|gone: I don't know if the mplayer I've got is iwmmxt mplayer or not
Jul 07 15:40:54 <summatusmentis> I'm gonna rebuild it, but I was hoping the video I ripped would be ready in the 10 minutes it'll take to finish scp'ing
Jul 07 15:52:00 <dcordes> hmm pasta with pesto rosso
Jul 07 17:33:24 <Darth_Wader> grrr... can`t set my timezone in opie. that stinks :/
Jul 07 17:33:26 <Darth_Wader> and it also complains that i have to install citytime which is already installed
Jul 07 17:33:41 <mimecar> Darth_Wader: did you complied opie for angstrom ?
Jul 07 17:34:03 <Darth_Wader> yup
Jul 07 17:35:29 <mimecar> an opie fan ;)
Jul 07 17:36:11 <polyonymous> bad time to build opie for angstrom :)
Jul 07 17:36:24 <Darth_Wader> it was 20070703 build :)
Jul 07 17:36:26 <mimecar> a friend of mine do it also
Jul 07 17:36:53 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, was it not yet touched wrt /usr ?
Jul 07 17:36:56 <Darth_Wader> and it even works, of course almost w/o bt support
Jul 07 17:37:00 <Darth_Wader> wrt?
Jul 07 17:37:04 <polyonymous> with regard to
Jul 07 17:37:20 <polyonymous> mimecar, so do I :)
Jul 07 17:37:30 <Darth_Wader> this one installed in /usr
Jul 07 17:37:47 <Darth_Wader> but one or two packages for somewhat reason were put into /opt
Jul 07 17:37:51 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, then your problem may be that it's half in /usr :)
Jul 07 17:38:07 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, please, report packages in question.
Jul 07 17:38:35 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, you can also grep -rl /opt/Qt /usr and pastebin the file (you'll have to install the real grep first, though)
Jul 07 17:39:25 <Darth_Wader> which recipe do i need to build for "real" grep?
Jul 07 17:39:30 <readon> "unable to infer tagged configuration" reported when apmd is compiled.
Jul 07 17:39:36 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, grep :)
Jul 07 17:39:40 <Darth_Wader> :)
Jul 07 17:39:59 <polyonymous> the one used by the image is busybox
Jul 07 17:41:39 <Darth_Wader> btw, opie still can`t restart itself
Jul 07 17:41:56 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, I noticed. Haven't looked into it yet, though
Jul 07 17:42:33 <Darth_Wader> maybe just find where it actually calls something and replace with system(/etc/init.d/opie restart) ?
Jul 07 17:42:54 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, first find cause, then find fix, not the other way around :)
Jul 07 17:43:38 <Darth_Wader> oh, btw
Jul 07 17:43:45 <Darth_Wader> Configuring h2200-bootloader
Jul 07 17:43:45 <Darth_Wader> postinst script returned status 1
Jul 07 17:43:45 <Darth_Wader> ERROR: h2200-bootloader.postinst returned 1
Jul 07 17:44:08 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, I can take a look at it, but I don't have the device in question
Jul 07 17:44:24 <Darth_Wader> it fails at finding /dev/mtdblock* device... i remember in familiar there was a kernel-module-mtdchar package, but i don`t see it in angstrom
Jul 07 17:44:55 <polyonymous> grep them for mtd. I dunno, not my device...
Jul 07 17:48:47 <polyonymous> I think it tries to relaunch itself from /usr/lib/opie/bin
Jul 07 17:48:49 <Darth_Wader> http://pastebin.ca/607527
Jul 07 17:49:01 <Darth_Wader> that`s grep -rl + ls -lR /opt
Jul 07 17:49:34 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, thanks. half of it will be fixed by pull :)
Jul 07 17:50:12 <polyonymous> I'll be fixing the rest now, thanks.
Jul 07 17:50:21 <polyonymous> but first - opie restart :)
Jul 07 17:58:46 <readon> "unable to infer tagged configuration" reported when apmd is compiled.
Jul 07 17:58:52 <readon> http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2060
Jul 07 18:01:53 <Darth_Wader> o_O
Jul 07 18:02:32 <Darth_Wader> polyonymous: after i did /etc/init.d/opie restart the keboard applet disappeared from panel
Jul 07 18:02:54 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, the oneon the left?
Jul 07 18:03:03 <Darth_Wader> yup
Jul 07 18:03:13 <Darth_Wader> multikey applet was still there
Jul 07 18:03:19 <polyonymous> hmm...what else have you done between restarts?
Jul 07 18:03:27 <polyonymous> hm.
Jul 07 18:03:30 <Darth_Wader> nothing
Jul 07 18:03:34 <polyonymous> I use multikey, luckily :)
Jul 07 18:03:39 <polyonymous> is it opie-keyboard or what?
Jul 07 18:04:30 <Darth_Wader> the one gets in default opie-image
Jul 07 18:04:31 <Darth_Wader> *that gets
Jul 07 18:04:47 <mimecar> xD
Jul 07 18:05:22 <polyonymous> hm. 
Jul 07 18:05:49 <polyonymous> I have handwriting/multikey and pickboard installed by default
Jul 07 18:06:34 <Darth_Wader> oh, nevermind
Jul 07 18:07:11 <Darth_Wader> it somewhat switched to handwriting and i didn`t found the input method switched first time
Jul 07 18:07:31 <Darth_Wader> (my color scheme makes it invisible)
Jul 07 18:07:38 <polyonymous> heh
Jul 07 18:10:02 <Darth_Wader> is "switch vt" in opie menu appears as single package or included in something other?
Jul 07 18:10:30 <Darth_Wader> it can cause unwantend reboots to keyboard-less devices
Jul 07 18:10:44 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, no idea...
Jul 07 18:11:12 <polyonymous> Darth_Wader, I'm in qemuarm opie now and it has no switch vt in menu :)
Jul 07 18:11:22 <polyonymous> so, i guess, it can be disabled.
Jul 07 18:11:55 <Darth_Wader> it can be turned off in launcher config, but looks like it is turned on by default in 20070703 build
Jul 07 18:12:13 <polyonymous> could be
Jul 07 18:12:39 * Darth_Wader once got in this trap with ipaq and was forced to press reset button :/
Jul 07 19:20:10 <CorsaiR> hi all
Jul 07 20:58:54 <mimecar> re hi
Jul 07 21:47:15 <mwa> looking for an oe clue... I got OE installed, built angstrom-minimal-image, updated spitz defconfig to enable airprime.ko, reconfigured and rebuilt. insmod tells me "error inserting 'airprime.ko': -1 Invalid module format"
Jul 07 21:47:25 <mwa> what did I miss?
Jul 07 21:47:57 <Laibsch> 2.6.21 kernel?
Jul 07 21:48:02 <mwa> 2.6.20
Jul 07 21:48:20 <Laibsch> What does "depmod -ae" say?
Jul 07 21:49:27 <mwa> it's not in /lib/modules, just copied across... hold on a sec
Jul 07 21:50:02 <mwa> no complaints
Jul 07 21:51:04 <mwa> hmm..
Jul 07 21:51:21 <mwa> mwa@zdebian:~$ file /lib/modules/2.6.20.6/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/belkin_sa.ko
Jul 07 21:51:21 <mwa> /lib/modules/2.6.20.6/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/belkin_sa.ko: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
Jul 07 21:51:27 <mwa> mwa@zdebian:~$ file /lib/modules/2.6.20.6/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/airprime.ko
Jul 07 21:51:27 <mwa> /lib/modules/2.6.20.6/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/airprime.ko: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, ARM, version 1, not stripped
Jul 07 21:51:46 <mwa> what's "(SYSV)" and why don't I have it?
Jul 07 21:53:27 <Laibsch> mwa: It looks to me you are fooling around with the system in a way not meant to be.
Jul 07 21:53:39 <mwa> heh
Jul 07 21:53:43 <Laibsch> mwa: I guess your SOL, unless somebody else steps to the plate ;-)
Jul 07 21:53:44 <mwa> wouldn't be the first time
Jul 07 21:54:09 <mwa> is there a "how to add a module" oe hint somewhere?
Jul 07 21:56:05 <Laibsch> mwa: maybe this is more #oe material
Jul 07 21:56:23 <mwa> k, thanks
Jul 07 22:45:03 <summatusmentis> grr... pidgin doesn't like aim
Jul 07 22:51:35 <summatusmentis> what does "an error occurred, return value: 4" mean?
Jul 07 22:52:29 <summatusmentis> nvm, just means I'm not root
Jul 07 22:52:59 <CoreDump|home> you shouldn't run that as root in any case
Jul 07 22:54:11 <summatusmentis> CoreDump|home: different problems, the return value: 4 was ipkg
Jul 07 22:54:24 <CoreDump|home> ah heh
Jul 07 22:54:59 <summatusmentis> CoreDump|home: suggestions on getting aim working w/ pidgin?
Jul 07 22:56:43 <summatusmentis> or on playing video?
Jul 07 22:56:48 <CoreDump|home> not really. I do not have an AOL account
Jul 07 22:57:08 <summatusmentis> hrm... for some reason my built version isn't liking the aim plugin
Jul 07 22:57:10 <CoreDump|home> summatusmentis: I wish :\ video playback is a big problem for me as well
Jul 07 22:57:53 <summatusmentis> bummer... XorA|gone seemed like he had it working, but even w/ the iwmmxt thing in mplayer, it's not working
Jul 07 22:59:35 <CoreDump|home> the iwmmxt is dog slow on my spitz. No speedup compared to the default -vo what so ever
Jul 07 23:00:07 <summatusmentis> I'm not even seeing a possibility for -vo iwmmxt when I run mpalyer -vo help
Jul 07 23:00:19 <CoreDump|home> IIRC it's -vo pxa
Jul 07 23:00:24 <CoreDump|home> or something like that
Jul 07 23:00:35 <summatusmentis> but the package was called mplayer_0.0+1.0rc1-r14_iwmmxt.ipk
Jul 07 23:00:38 <summatusmentis> oh, pxa
Jul 07 23:00:39 <summatusmentis> hrm
Jul 07 23:00:50 <CoreDump|home> I'm not sure tho =)
Jul 07 23:00:55 <CoreDump|home> XorA|gone: would know
Jul 07 23:01:20 <summatusmentis> yeah, but he's not here :-)
Jul 07 23:01:25 <summatusmentis> it didn't like pxa
Jul 07 23:08:15 <CoreDump|home> I have yet to find a mencoder cmdline to convert a *cough* 350Mb *cough* avi into a full-screen video w/ smooth playback
Jul 07 23:22:29 <summatusmentis> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-users/2007-July/000410.html <-- that's XorA|gone's script
Jul 07 23:23:28 <CoreDump|home> thanks for the pointer
Jul 07 23:23:40 <CoreDump|home> I shall look at it tomorrow =)
Jul 07 23:24:01 <summatusmentis> I haven't tried it yet, but yeah
Jul 07 23:57:20 <reyawn> that's odd, when I do an angstrom update this morning it presents me with two new forks to choose from
Jul 07 23:57:25 <reyawn> anyone else have this?
Jul 07 23:57:50 <summatusmentis> new forks?
Jul 07 23:58:36 <reyawn> yes...one from laibsch@openembedded, another from polyonymous@openembedded
Jul 07 23:58:50 <summatusmentis> reyawn: forks of what?
Jul 08 00:01:07 <reyawn> when I do mtn update on my org.openembedded.dev repository grab for angstrom
Jul 08 00:01:18 <reyawn> to build it again
Jul 08 00:02:00 <reyawn> mtn: updating along branch 'org.openembedded.dev'
Jul 08 00:02:00 <reyawn> mtn: multiple update candidates:
Jul 08 00:02:00 <reyawn> mtn:   5076ed26abde44cf0e9a27bb249bb0829b19ea16 Laibsch@openembedded.org 2007-07-07T22:04:46
Jul 08 00:02:00 <reyawn> mtn:   9a0ea0926b71ceec737d423255d8fce2074cc8b7 polyonymous@openembedded.org 2007-07-07T23:29:36
Jul 08 00:02:00 <reyawn> mtn: choose one with 'mtn update -r<id>'
Jul 08 00:02:18 <summatusmentis> huh.. interesting... no, I haven't seen that
Jul 08 00:02:27 * summatusmentis goes to check
Jul 08 00:02:37 * Darth_Wader just updated 2 or 3 times for last 24h
Jul 08 00:02:40 <Darth_Wader> no conflicts..
Jul 08 00:03:18 <reyawn> hmmm
Jul 08 00:03:22 <Darth_Wader> reyawn: maybe you shoul pull one more time
Jul 08 00:04:03 <reyawn> I'm trying that right now...
Jul 08 00:04:05 <reyawn> hmm
Jul 08 00:04:07 <reyawn> no different
Jul 08 00:05:00 <reyawn> how odd
Jul 08 00:05:12 <reyawn> maybe I should just delete the whole thing and re-pull from scratch
Jul 08 00:05:36 <Darth_Wader> btw, when _exact_ your last pull was?
Jul 08 00:05:49 <reyawn> about 30 seconds ago : )
Jul 08 00:06:02 <Darth_Wader> previous to that :)
Jul 08 00:06:14 <reyawn> before that, I had done my first angstrom build yesterday based on a pull that I had finished the previous night
Jul 08 00:06:29 <reyawn> took a loooong time to build on my p4 1.6 laptop :)
Jul 08 00:06:50 <reyawn> a long time ago it had present me with another fork option
Jul 08 00:06:58 <Darth_Wader> i`d prefer this being said in utc time 
Jul 08 00:07:20 <summatusmentis> reyawn: I'm updating/pulling sucessfully
Jul 08 00:07:21 <reyawn> and I picked koen kooi's fork since he was the one that works with IPAQs (I have a 5450)
Jul 08 00:07:45 <reyawn> odd...I'm not sure about UTC time, but a minute ago shoudl be the same for both of us :)
Jul 08 00:08:07 <Darth_Wader> minute ago will, but "previous night" won`t :)
Jul 08 00:08:12 <reyawn> I think I'll just do a repull from scratch on my desktop...the athlon should be just a tad faster at building this monstrosity
Jul 08 00:08:14 <Darth_Wader> and "this morning" too
Jul 08 00:08:33 <Darth_Wader> btw, i`m ipaq 2210 and building all this crap on athlon-1200 :)
Jul 08 00:08:42 <reyawn> hahaha
Jul 08 00:08:51 <reyawn> probably burns this P4
Jul 08 00:09:05 <summatusmentis> Darth_Wader: ouch... I'm on athlon xp-m 2800+
Jul 08 00:09:17 <reyawn> I hear athlons excel because of their far better branch prediction for such things...
Jul 08 00:09:20 <Darth_Wader> yup.. i`m using ooold hardware
Jul 08 00:09:25 <reyawn> compiling kills p4
Jul 08 00:09:31 <reyawn> haha
Jul 08 00:09:50 <Darth_Wader> reyawn: not in this case, 400MHz of ur p4 will do the job faster for sure
Jul 08 00:09:55 <reyawn> hey, when I got my athlon 1200 (it is running in my server now) it was the best thing since sliced bread
Jul 08 00:10:18 <reyawn> I don't know...it took me literally a whole day to build
Jul 08 00:10:35 <reyawn> how long does it take you to crunch it?
Jul 08 00:11:04 <reyawn> Darth_Wader: btw...nice athlon, the m's are nice
Jul 08 00:11:05 <Darth_Wader> i didn`t measure build times, maybe next time
Jul 08 00:11:18 <Darth_Wader> m?
Jul 08 00:11:22 <reyawn> shootz...I mean summatusmentis
Jul 08 00:11:24 <Darth_Wader> :)
Jul 08 00:11:26 <reyawn> sry
Jul 08 00:11:34 <reyawn> not used to IRC totallly
Jul 08 00:11:36 <summatusmentis> reyawn: well, I want c2d :-)
Jul 08 00:12:04 <Darth_Wader> c2q will fit better for OE/angstrom building, i think
Jul 08 00:12:17 <reyawn> summatusmentis: agreed
Jul 08 00:12:21 <summatusmentis> Darth_Wader: that does't fit better on a laptop though :-)
Jul 08 00:12:34 <reyawn> Dark_Wader: haha
Jul 08 00:12:47 <reyawn> well, my desktop is only an athlon 2000+
Jul 08 00:13:29 <reyawn> believe it or not I had a non-overclocked and cool-running (around 36C) athlon 2200+ die on me a few months ago, and I had to downgrade...it was strange and unfortunate :(
Jul 08 00:14:10 <Darth_Wader> btw it`s interesting what hw do koen use, as i`ve seen in some of him bugreports he`s a mac user
Jul 08 00:14:13 <Darth_Wader> hm..
Jul 08 00:14:42 <summatusmentis> he is, afaik. 12" powerbook
Jul 08 00:14:49 <reyawn> ah
Jul 08 00:14:56 <reyawn> didn't know that
Jul 08 00:15:39 <Darth_Wader> powerbook... nice build host ;)
Jul 08 00:15:42 <reyawn> all I know is, the image I burned works beautifully...until it gives some sort of freeing init (88k) or something of that sort and halts
Jul 08 00:16:01 <Darth_Wader> unused kernel memory?
Jul 08 00:16:25 <reyawn> oh, except for how it disables the lcd first thing
Jul 08 00:16:27 <reyawn> I don't know
Jul 08 00:16:39 <summatusmentis> anyone have any idea what I need for mencoder in angstrom?
Jul 08 00:16:53 <reyawn> the 7/04 images from the site work fine, despite lots of random errors
Jul 08 00:17:00 <reyawn> I actually get to a boot prompt
Jul 08 00:17:19 <reyawn> so I must be using a bad fork...perhaps re-pulling would be a very good idea
Jul 08 00:17:24 <reyawn> mencoder?
Jul 08 00:17:47 <summatusmentis> reyawn: yeah, re-encoding video
Jul 08 00:18:18 <reyawn> ahh
Jul 08 00:18:20 <reyawn> interesting
Jul 08 00:18:39 <reyawn> you have all the codecs you need?
Jul 08 00:19:02 <summatusmentis> I want to re-encode to a smaller bitrate and resolution
Jul 08 00:19:22 <reyawn> on the device itself?
Jul 08 00:19:24 <Darth_Wader> but why do you need mencoder for angstrom?
Jul 08 00:19:34 <reyawn> seems a bit slow if you ask me
Jul 08 00:20:08 <Darth_Wader> and if it will use fpu calculations it would be painfully slow
Jul 08 00:20:13 <summatusmentis> erm... convenience, I guess, I've already got a file on the HD :-)
Jul 08 00:20:38 <summatusmentis> as compared to having to scp it over again after re-encoding it
Jul 08 00:20:38 <Darth_Wader> erm.. maybe just use downsampling ability of mplayer itself?
Jul 08 00:21:46 <summatusmentis> Darth_Wader: ??
Jul 08 00:28:56 <Darth_Wader>  -lavdopts lowres=1:fast:skiploopfilter=all
Jul 08 00:29:57 <Darth_Wader> details are in man mplayer /-lavdopts
Jul 08 00:32:36 <summatusmentis> didn't do anything
Jul 08 00:33:17 <Darth_Wader> maybe you should try lowres=2 or =3
Jul 08 00:34:09 <summatusmentis> hrm... I'll look into it, thanks
Jul 08 01:20:21 <summatusmentis> Darth_Wader: I've got a video working, but it's really small... is there a way to zoom in on it in mplayer?
Jul 08 01:20:31 <Darth_Wader> summatusmentis: -zoom ?
Jul 08 01:20:57 <Darth_Wader> btw, lowres=3 makes 1024x578 h.264 video play smoothly even on my athlon-1200 cpu
Jul 08 01:21:28 <summatusmentis> I'm using -vo pxa -dropframe w/ a 320x240 res mp4 video
Jul 08 01:21:42 <Darth_Wader> -zoom enables sw scaler 
Jul 08 01:22:03 <summatusmentis> oh, and I'm using -vm as well
Jul 08 01:22:22 <summatusmentis> it doesn't like -zoom
Jul 08 01:22:51 <Darth_Wader> never user -vm switch
Jul 08 01:23:06 <summatusmentis> there, that did it, I left off the -vo pxa
Jul 08 01:23:07 <Darth_Wader> (actually, never played video on handheld devices too :)
Jul 08 01:23:56 <summatusmentis> never? seems to be working well for my Z :-D
Jul 08 01:24:41 <Darth_Wader> i`m just an owner of old hardware :)
Jul 08 01:24:57 <summatusmentis> lol, no worries there, me too
Jul 08 01:24:57 <Darth_Wader> and all those tricks are needed for it to play some videos too
Jul 08 01:25:48 <Darth_Wader> your cpu would play those videos with no adv. switches at all :)
Jul 08 01:26:04 <summatusmentis> my lappy cpu, yes
Jul 08 01:26:18 <summatusmentis> I've got an old AIX box, 333Mhz
Jul 08 01:26:40 <Darth_Wader>  ibm 8x0 ? o_O
Jul 08 01:27:00 <summatusmentis> IBM RX/6000 44p model 170
Jul 08 01:27:06 <Darth_Wader> oh
Jul 08 01:27:10 <summatusmentis> s/RX/RS
Jul 08 01:27:24 <Darth_Wader> i thought u`re owner of one of ibm aix/powerpc laptops
Jul 08 01:27:43 <Darth_Wader> btw, i forgot how to enable .mkv internal subs to display in mplayer
Jul 08 01:28:34 <summatusmentis> no, not an ibm laptop, it's an old server
Jul 08 01:28:42 <summatusmentis> my laptop is a compaq presario 2100
Jul 08 01:28:53 <summatusmentis> subtitles?
Jul 08 01:29:13 <Darth_Wader> nvw, already found a clue in mplayer output
Jul 08 01:33:12 <summatusmentis> the Z doesn't seem to like anything above 320x240, btw
Jul 08 01:33:48 <Darth_Wader> as it was mentioned above, this is due to lack of cpu<>ram bandwidth
Jul 08 01:34:05 <Darth_Wader> i don`t think that it Z-specific
Jul 08 01:34:12 <summatusmentis> I guess that's true
Jul 08 01:34:40 <summatusmentis> not that I mistrusted XorA|gone, but yeah
Jul 08 01:35:48 <Darth_Wader> i`ve heard things like it  before i came to #angstrom 
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