**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 20 02:59:56 2007
Jul 20 03:38:29 <Darth_Wader> lol
Jul 20 04:07:52 <summatusmentis> when I run fdisk -l and I get "Partition # does not end on a cylinder boundary" is that something to worry about?
Jul 20 04:08:17 <Zero_Chaos> not really, because flash doesn't have cylinders
Jul 20 04:08:31 <Zero_Chaos> but if this is the microdrive then I guess it's not "a good thing"
Jul 20 04:09:03 <summatusmentis> this is a microdrive, yes
Jul 20 04:09:45 <summatusmentis> Zero_Chaos: what's likely to happen, if anything?
Jul 20 04:10:28 <Zero_Chaos> summatusmentis: as I said it is not "a good thing", as for anything specifically bad... I don't really know.
Jul 20 04:10:44 * Zero_Chaos is not the expert in this field
Jul 20 04:11:15 <summatusmentis> :-/ I setup partitions with parted...
Jul 20 04:27:24 <mscdex> i had the same thing happen to me on my sd card when i ran fdisk -l on my laptop, but according to ramdiskrescue's utilities there's nothing wrong
Jul 20 04:29:01 <mscdex> but i cannot seem to boot to the ext2 partition on the sd card
Jul 20 04:30:32 <mscdex> i get an error saying cannot open root device mmcblk0p2 and please append a correct root= boot option
Jul 20 04:30:58 <mscdex> then of course the kernel panic reporting unable to moun troot fs
Jul 20 04:31:03 <mscdex> *mount root
Jul 20 05:11:22 <MrEMaN> i have a package which needs openssl to be built but i believe you cant have dropbear and openssl at the same time? i tried to install teh package but got a message saying you use one or the other?
Jul 20 05:11:46 <mscdex> ok i managed to fix the mmc error by adding in a rootdelay=2 for the kernel params but now i'm getting the dreaded "no init found. try passing init= option to kernel"
Jul 20 05:12:42 <MrEMaN> mscdex, what you attempting to do?
Jul 20 05:13:18 <mscdex> boot into the ext2 partition i installed angstrom to
Jul 20 05:13:43 <mscdex> with haret
Jul 20 05:15:54 <mscdex> i wonder if ramdiskrescue didn't untar the files correctly
Jul 20 05:38:18 <mscdex> ok that was the problem. there was only 3 directories on the ext2 partition for some odd reason, RR didn't untar it all.
Jul 20 06:40:57 <mscdex> psokolovsky_: do you happen to know which interface is used by the internal wifi for h4000?
Jul 20 06:41:17 <psokolovsky_> pcmcia
Jul 20 06:42:06 <mscdex> sorry, i meant network interface. i tried wlan0 but the wifi settings do not seem to stick
Jul 20 06:43:22 <psokolovsky_> ifconfig will help you
Jul 20 06:44:46 <mscdex> ifconfig -a only reports: irda0, irlan0, lo, usb0
Jul 20 06:44:48 <mscdex> :/
Jul 20 06:45:59 <psokolovsky_> that means there's no any wlan, right?
Jul 20 06:46:20 <mscdex> it's not finding any ethernet network interfaces
Jul 20 06:47:05 <mscdex> no eth0, eth1 or wlan0
Jul 20 06:47:51 <psokolovsky_> if you expect any hints, you'd need to be more detailed and in and how you do
Jul 20 06:51:18 <mscdex> i'm using Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070710-h4000.rootfs and zImage-2.6.21-hh10-h4000-20070710104232 from the latest available unstable for h4000. i installed the rootfs, and now I can use GPE. I read on the HH.org h4000 project page(s) that wifi supposedly works, however I am unable to get it working unless there is something extra that needs to be done that I'm not aware of.
Jul 20 06:53:05 <psokolovsky_> -h12 is required for wifi to work
Jul 20 06:53:14 <psokolovsky_> you need to load "acx" module
Jul 20 06:53:27 <psokolovsky_> then do "ifconfig wlan0 up"
Jul 20 06:53:31 <psokolovsky_> then can configure
Jul 20 06:53:57 <mscdex> h12 is available only in the cvs right now?
Jul 20 06:55:40 <psokolovsky_> in cvs it is available always and for sure ;-)
Jul 20 07:10:16 <mscdex> i know this sounds like a dumb question to most in here but, what all do i need in order to compile the hh12 kernel from cvs? is there perhaps a guide or something specific to hh.org?
Jul 20 07:18:08 <psokolovsky_> mscdex: sure, see hh.org wiki. Or install OE and it will compile everything for you.
Jul 20 07:38:53 <dcordes> morning
Jul 20 09:03:31 <PsyKro> Hi, i ve a little question, did someone had problems with generating locale binary ? qemu returns segfault
Jul 20 09:04:21 <XorA|guadec> PsyKro: amd64?
Jul 20 09:05:53 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: dont think so where can i see that ?
Jul 20 09:07:46 <XorA|guadec> PsyKro: you dont know what CPU you have in your machine?
Jul 20 09:07:55 <XorA|guadec> cat /proc/cpuinfo
Jul 20 09:08:09 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: thanks, it is a working machine not mine ;D
Jul 20 09:08:46 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: as i expected it is not
Jul 20 09:09:14 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: I m on fedora 7
Jul 20 09:09:20 <XorA|guadec> oh, then thats wierd, is it debian based, or SuSe/Redhat
Jul 20 09:09:47 <XorA|guadec> ah, I think you have hit gcc4 issue with qemu
Jul 20 09:09:47 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: yep, i got qemu with yum
Jul 20 09:10:06 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: i removed it and recompiled using gcc34
Jul 20 09:10:18 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: same error
Jul 20 09:10:19 <XorA|guadec> OE builds its own version of qemu
Jul 20 09:10:29 <gremlin[it]> hi all 
Jul 20 09:10:41 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: oh ok :)
Jul 20 09:10:51 <koen> http://pfalcon-oe.blogspot.com/2007/06/running-user-qemu-emulation-on-fedora.html
Jul 20 09:10:53 <XorA|guadec> PsyKro: you havent picked you the ASSUME_PROVIDED stuff that some people touted have you?
Jul 20 09:10:56 <gremlin[it]> i have a small issue ... the x86qemu image isn't writeable :( ... 
Jul 20 09:11:24 <gremlin[it]> i mean ... never stay into the disk image across qemu restart ...
Jul 20 09:11:38 <gremlin[it]> i notice i have / mounted two times ... 
Jul 20 09:11:47 <gremlin[it]> rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
Jul 20 09:11:47 <gremlin[it]> /dev/root on / type ext2 (rw)
Jul 20 09:11:51 <gremlin[it]> it's normal ? 
Jul 20 09:11:53 <XorA|guadec> PsyKro: ah yeah, read the link koen posted, I forget that as I always run my own kernel on Fedora because theirs is broken
Jul 20 09:11:56 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: hm i m not english and did not understand ur question Xora, sorry :(
Jul 20 09:12:13 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: ok i ll have a look at that :D
Jul 20 09:12:16 <XorA|guadec> PsyKro: its ok, my question was not in english, I made some mistakes in grammar/spelling
Jul 20 09:12:28 <XorA|guadec> too much IPA, too little sleep
Jul 20 09:12:41 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: then my english is not so bad :D
Jul 20 09:12:51 <XorA|guadec> PsyKro: looks good to me
Jul 20 09:12:52 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: thanks for ur help
Jul 20 09:13:06 <PsyKro> And koen too 
Jul 20 09:13:15 <gremlin[it]> hi koen XorA|guadec 
Jul 20 09:13:22 <koen> hey gremlin[it] 
Jul 20 09:15:17 <lrg> XorA|guadec: see you in reception at 12
Jul 20 09:15:24 <lrg> hey koen
Jul 20 09:15:28 <koen> hey lrg 
Jul 20 09:15:41 <XorA|guadec> lrg: ok
Jul 20 09:15:57 * lrg was late for breakfast
Jul 20 09:16:00 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec, koen: if i understand i have to recompile the kernel, not using the one provided by fedora ?
Jul 20 09:16:14 <XorA|guadec> PsyKro: yes
Jul 20 09:17:06 <gremlin[it]> nobody have info about qemu ?!
Jul 20 09:17:09 <XorA|guadec> PsyKro: what are you actually trying to acheive, because there is another way if you dont have root access to do this stuff
Jul 20 09:17:10 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: ok that's why i hadn't this error on my laptop ... :D thought it was related to the fedora version
Jul 20 09:17:31 <XorA|guadec> PsyKro: but it leaves you without working locales on most machines
Jul 20 09:17:33 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: no problem i have full access
Jul 20 09:18:31 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: I want to have a build of angstrom for h3970
Jul 20 09:19:19 <XorA|guadec> PsyKro: probably best to try and fix the kernel way first then
Jul 20 09:20:12 <PsyKro> XorA|guadec: thanks for ur help again :)
Jul 20 09:42:09 <codyl> why was the alsa bluetooth plugin pulled out of the bluez package ..?
Jul 20 09:43:10 <XorA|guadec> codyl: accident?
Jul 20 09:43:56 <codyl> XorA|guadec, its one C file compiled to an .so - should have just been sucked in with "make install"
Jul 20 09:44:08 <codyl> someone must have removed it for a reason 
Jul 20 09:45:28 <XorA|guadec> codyl: which package did it used to be inj?
Jul 20 09:46:30 <codyl> XorA|guadec, I'm not exactly sure- its quite new
Jul 20 09:46:51 <XorA|guadec> #  --enable-alsa           enable ALSA support its commented out, probably because whoever made recipe doesnt use it and cant test it
Jul 20 09:47:18 <codyl> oh thanks- see theres the culprit ;-)
Jul 20 09:48:03 <XorA|guadec> codyl: just add it into EXTRA_OECONF, and report on bugtracker if it works for you
Jul 20 09:48:36 <koen> feel free to enable it :)
Jul 20 09:48:44 <codyl> koen, why was it disabled ?
Jul 20 09:49:09 <koen> probably an oversight with the rewrite of the recipe
Jul 20 09:49:19 <codyl> ah
Jul 20 09:49:32 * XorA|guadec is building it
Jul 20 09:49:34 * koen pleads guilty
Jul 20 09:49:56 <codyl> the code is still fairly new - so I wasnt the it was even usable yet
Jul 20 09:50:03 <codyl> * sure
Jul 20 09:50:05 <codyl> heh
Jul 20 09:51:35 <codyl> XorA|guadec, I'd like to test pcm_bluetooth.so really quick before we decide to include it ;-) could you send it to me if it compiles?
Jul 20 09:52:14 * koen mentions armv4t
Jul 20 09:52:22 <codyl> ep93xx
Jul 20 09:52:56 <codyl> koen, once i get uboot up on my at91 board this stupid ep93xx piece of crap will go back to the closet from which it came
Jul 20 09:53:25 <codyl> :-P
Jul 20 09:53:37 * ade|desk is reminded that his jtag arrived on monday and hasn't used it with his ep9302
Jul 20 09:54:02 <codyl> cody doesnt know how to do the third person trick on irc
Jul 20 09:54:24 <koen>  /me something
Jul 20 09:54:45 * codyl codys feel better 
Jul 20 09:55:03 <codyl> cool.
Jul 20 09:56:35 * XorA|guadec attempts to fix right bluez-utils now
Jul 20 09:57:23 <XorA|guadec> codyl: Im compiling for a different arch to yuou
Jul 20 09:57:39 <codyl> XorA|guadec, what are you compiling for?
Jul 20 09:58:03 <XorA|guadec> armv5te
Jul 20 09:58:29 <codyl> ah
Jul 20 09:58:32 <XorA|guadec> koen: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/6906543.stm
Jul 20 09:59:11 <koen> the snowman is indeed cool
Jul 20 09:59:29 <koen> the nightwish rendition of walking in the air is cool as well
Jul 20 09:59:39 * XorA|guadec likes the cheer up goth have a brew series
Jul 20 10:01:10 <XorA|guadec> s/brew/bru/ as XorA|guadec inadvertantly uses the old spelling
Jul 20 10:01:39 <koen> BRUteFIR
Jul 20 10:02:32 <XorA|guadec> did you know its spelt Irn Bru as it neither contains Iron or is a Brew so they had to change spelling
Jul 20 10:02:41 <koen> heh
Jul 20 10:02:56 <XorA|guadec> and it used to say Made in Scotland from Girrrrrrrders, but it isnt actually made in Scotland so they had to drop that as well
Jul 20 10:03:07 <koen> :)
Jul 20 10:04:49 <codyl> koen, I am compiling the one file natively because that was easiest - but I am apparently missing linux/errno.h 
Jul 20 10:04:55 <codyl> which I have a hard time believing..
Jul 20 10:05:04 <codyl> and asm/socket.h
Jul 20 10:05:17 <koen> linux-libc-headers-dev ?
Jul 20 10:05:19 <XorA|guadec> NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package:
Jul 20 10:05:19 <XorA|guadec> NOTE:   /usr/lib/cups/backend/.debug/bluetooth
Jul 20 10:05:19 <XorA|guadec> NOTE:   /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_bluetooth.so
Jul 20 10:05:19 <XorA|guadec> NOTE:   /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_bluetooth.so
Jul 20 10:05:19 <XorA|guadec> NOTE:   /usr/lib/alsa-lib/.debug/libasound_module_ctl_bluetooth.so
Jul 20 10:05:20 <XorA|guadec> NOTE:   /usr/lib/alsa-lib/.debug/libasound_module_pcm_bluetooth.so
Jul 20 10:05:56 * koen vaguely remembers marcel saying that they didn't actually work, but that was 2 releases ago
Jul 20 10:06:50 <codyl> koen, thought I had grabbed that already- thanks
Jul 20 10:07:25 <codyl> oh I see the problem now
Jul 20 10:07:31 <koen> (linux-libc-headers-dev conflicts with glibc-dev, so use -force-overwrite)
Jul 20 10:07:35 <koen> stupid GNU software
Jul 20 10:07:43 <codyl> haha I was just about to say that
Jul 20 10:07:59 <codyl> er..type that
Jul 20 10:10:42 <codyl> compiled
Jul 20 10:10:43 <codyl> trying it now
Jul 20 10:15:36 <XorA|guadec> codyl: just pushed a fixed bluez-utils package, it puts alsa in bluez-alsa
Jul 20 10:15:54 <XorA|guadec> s/package/recipe/
Jul 20 10:16:22 <codyl> XorA|guadec, okay cool- will that get automagically compiled and pushed out?
Jul 20 10:16:27 <codyl> oh nevermind
Jul 20 10:16:29 <codyl> recipe
Jul 20 10:16:45 <XorA|guadec> codyl: it will get pushed out next time koen syncs probably, I guess tomorrow
Jul 20 10:17:32 <XorA|guadec> anyway Im off to finish packing to checkout of hotel
Jul 20 10:17:45 <codyl> XorA|guadec, thanks for the help 
Jul 20 10:43:50 <MrEMaN> i have a package which needs openssl to be built but i believe you cant have dropbear and openssl at the same time? i tried to install teh package but got a message saying you use one or the other? 
Jul 20 10:44:29 <hrw> openssl or openssh?
Jul 20 11:52:20 * xota saluda!
Jul 20 13:53:39 * xota re!
Jul 20 13:54:55 <PsyKro> hi again, i m experiencing problems using HaRet when i launch it, it opens a window where i can choose a file, but when a choose this file the window will close and nothing happens
Jul 20 13:55:19 <PsyKro> (i click run after choosing the file)
Jul 20 13:57:16 <psokolovsky_> you choose wrong file
Jul 20 14:01:26 <PsyKro> or the file is corrupted or something ?
Jul 20 14:01:35 <PsyKro> coz it is the good file
Jul 20 14:02:38 <PsyKro> psokolovsky: what do you mean by you chose wrong file ?
Jul 20 14:07:06 <PsyKro> psokolovsky_: what could make haret crash ? my startup script is good
Jul 20 14:07:31 <PsyKro> psokolovsky_: or seems to be good ;)
Jul 20 14:16:48 <Readon> why i can't disable gdb after i use DISTRO_TYPE = 'release' instead of 'debug'?
Jul 20 14:21:32 <PsyKro> Haret needs a initrd file to make the ipaq boot ?
Jul 20 14:32:21 <ade|desk> anyone every created a livecd/pendrive for i586 using angstrom ?
Jul 20 14:32:29 <ade|desk> s/every/ever
Jul 20 14:37:03 <PsyKro> another question, when building angstrom i get an error related to ncurses: 
Jul 20 14:37:05 <PsyKro> ERROR: '/home/DevelUbique/Development/OpenEmbedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/ncurses/ncurses_5.4.bb' failed
Jul 20 14:38:35 <PsyKro> i get that error too
Jul 20 14:38:39 <PsyKro> | tic: symbol lookup error: tic: undefined symbol: _nc_check_termtype
Jul 20 14:38:39 <PsyKro> | ? tic could not build /home/DevelUbique/Development/OpenEmbedded/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ncurses-5.4-r8/image/usr/share/terminfo
Jul 20 14:52:22 <PsyKro> someone here ?
Jul 20 15:06:47 <PsyKro> no one encountered problems with ncurses when building angstrom ?
Jul 20 15:29:49 <hrw> PsyKro: suse/redhat?
Jul 20 15:39:24 <PsyKro> hrw: fedora
Jul 20 15:39:48 <PsyKro> hrw: so yes redhat
Jul 20 15:40:46 <hrw> can you do "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=tmp/staging/i686-linux/lib bitbake ncurses"
Jul 20 15:41:35 <PsyKro> it fails
Jul 20 15:42:17 <hrw> there was bug reorted about it
Jul 20 15:42:23 <PsyKro> hrw: complaining 
Jul 20 15:42:24 <hrw> please check our bugtracker
Jul 20 15:42:25 <PsyKro> | tic: symbol lookup error: tic: undefined symbol: _nc_check_termtype
Jul 20 15:42:25 <PsyKro> | ? tic could not build /home/DevelUbique/Development/OpenEmbedded/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ncurses-5.4-r8/image/usr/share/terminfo
Jul 20 15:42:33 <PsyKro> ok
Jul 20 15:42:53 <hrw> thats because your system ncurses is different to OE one
Jul 20 15:42:58 <PsyKro> forgot to check that source 
Jul 20 15:43:02 <hrw> and Oe does not use proper one
Jul 20 15:43:11 <PsyKro> ok
Jul 20 15:51:44 * xota re!
Jul 20 15:51:59 <dreamer_> the last ipkg update i did killed all my 2.6.20.6 kernel modules and i now have 2.6.21 modules, but i still have 2.6.20.6 flashed on my z. it doesn't seem like this should be an automatic behavior . . .
Jul 20 15:54:34 <hrw> thats because kernel is not updated with ipkg - you need to flash it
Jul 20 15:55:10 <wirelessdreamer> i know that, but ipkg shouldn't automatically kill your kernel modules
Jul 20 15:55:23 <wirelessdreamer> because of the fact the device needs flashed to change the kernel
Jul 20 15:56:29 <hrw> no. ipkg updates packages to latest versions
Jul 20 16:01:53 <wirelessdreamer> do we have doc's anywhere on the site for just updating the kernel, its been a while since i last reflashed a kernel
Jul 20 16:03:07 <hrw> put  zImage.bin and updater.sh on card  and flash
Jul 20 16:03:11 <hrw> but only those files
Jul 20 16:03:19 <hrw> no initrd* not hdimage*
Jul 20 16:03:44 <wirelessdreamer> :)
Jul 20 16:10:18 <wirelessdreamer> is there a config option to disable the splash screen on boot, or is that done at build time?
Jul 20 16:10:39 <hrw> remove psplash package to get rid of it
Jul 20 16:11:03 <wirelessdreamer> thank you again :)
Jul 20 16:12:48 <wirelessdreamer> after updating to 2.6.21 i'm hanging on restoring alsa mixer settings
Jul 20 16:13:38 <hrw> then read angstrom mailinglists and bugracker again
Jul 20 16:45:07 <Furre> Hmm, what happens if one try to take out more than 100mA on the Z, will any circuit burn? o.o
Jul 20 17:32:52 <nodens> Furre, I guess the battery will drain quicky, and you will have trouble to get it running again (as I done yesterday with mine)
Jul 20 17:34:00 <nodens> (drained battery while in NAND console, needed to charge it 3 hours just for it to boot up, despite my resets and D+M tries)
Jul 20 18:47:49 <wirelessdreamer> does anyone else here use e17 on their z?
Jul 20 19:06:02 <Wick3d> Hmm... my zaurus writes everything so slowly to my SD card...
Jul 20 19:20:45 <wirelessdreamer> hdparm /dev/mmcblk0, if its around 1.7 Mb/sec its normal
Jul 20 19:20:57 <wirelessdreamer> if its <1 get a newer sd card
Jul 20 19:21:25 <wirelessdreamer> has anyone here ever used a mic with their z?
Jul 20 19:26:06 <go1dfish> wirelessdreamer: I just set up e17 on the 3.5.4.1 oz release on my 3100 last night
Jul 20 19:26:13 <go1dfish> pretty sweet
Jul 20 19:40:26 <Jon_Bradbury> Is there anyone here?
Jul 20 19:47:20 <wirelessdreamer> yea i've got e17 on my c3000, just installed the new version in the feed, menus are working now, i think its faster or as fast as openbox now
Jul 20 19:47:43 <wirelessdreamer> i'm sorta here :)
Jul 20 19:48:24 <Jon_Bradbury> I seek knowledge about the Psion Netbook Pro. Then I'm gonna update the Wiki.
Jul 20 19:48:46 <wirelessdreamer> sry i've never even heard of it
Jul 20 19:48:59 <wirelessdreamer> i use a zarus, and have a few ipaq's laying around
Jul 20 19:50:22 <Jon_Bradbury> It is supported, supposedly. Koen's got Linux running on it. Me too, but all I can find is a stripped out gpe image which works, but hasn't got anything on it (and it's OpenEmbedded / Familiar, not proper Angstrom)
Jul 20 19:51:38 <Jon_Bradbury> If I could get my Wavelan Orinoco Silver card going, I could try to access the feeds. But the orinoco_cs.o driver isn't installed.
Jul 20 19:51:59 <wirelessdreamer> i'd think you only need to change a few config files to build angstrom on it, the manual has info on setting up new devices to build on
Jul 20 19:52:13 <Jon_Bradbury> ...and I can't find a copy, only the source package.
Jul 20 19:52:42 <wirelessdreamer> usb network device?
Jul 20 19:52:51 <Jon_Bradbury> Yes, but according to Koen it needs the 2.6.22 kernel image. Can I get that from Angstrom?
Jul 20 19:53:06 <wirelessdreamer> we're at 2.6.21 right now in the feed
Jul 20 19:53:20 <wirelessdreamer> not sure when 22 is planned for it
Jul 20 19:54:04 <Jon_Bradbury> OK, thanks! I need to check my eMails! Have not got a USB adapter for it - yet. It has a funny plug which looks like a mini USB socket but ain't.
Jul 20 19:55:51 <Jon_Bradbury> Oh, as to bit bake - it has a config file for the NetBook Pro already, but as I've only been doing this for a few days I have not yet downloaded any of it.
Jul 20 19:56:49 <wirelessdreamer> maybe you could backport a patch for what you need, or post a question to the list asking when 2.6.22 will be in the feed
Jul 20 19:57:20 <Jon_Bradbury> Dunno WD, I've never built a kernel before!
Jul 20 19:57:33 <wirelessdreamer> wait for 2.6.22 it is ;)
Jul 20 19:57:51 <Jon_Bradbury> Been programming C and C++ for over 15 years though...
Jul 20 19:58:04 <wirelessdreamer> oh it wouldn't be a problem then
Jul 20 19:58:23 <wirelessdreamer> i'd reccoment building a kernel for a desktop system to become familiar with it if you interested
Jul 20 19:58:45 <wirelessdreamer> then you just have to make a patch and add a few lines to your bb file for your kernel
Jul 20 19:59:47 <Jon_Bradbury> No just need to get the time to set it all up. However the NetBook has a wierdo bootloader called BooSt which has these binary headers that no one seems to understand. There's a very small amount of info  which I have, and on the basis of that I've written a smal program to manipulate the headers.
Jul 20 20:07:43 <koen> Jon_Bradbury: it needs a kernel >2.6.16
Jul 20 20:08:42 <koen> Jon_Bradbury: could you try the 2.6.17 from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/netbook-pro/20070709/ ?
Jul 20 20:09:06 <Jon_Bradbury> Yes. Which file is it? One of the zImages?
Jul 20 20:09:40 <Jon_Bradbury> ..because all the other files are root filesystems
Jul 20 20:10:58 <koen> yes, the zImages
Jul 20 20:11:10 <Jon_Bradbury> Koen : why are the zImages both 1Mb? The 2.6.16 image I have is 3.2 megs!
Jul 20 20:11:17 <koen> I just got back from holiday, so I can now reply to emails without bothering with the broken vpn
Jul 20 20:11:27 <koen> the 2.6.9 image?
Jul 20 20:11:29 <Jon_Bradbury> Sorry koen
Jul 20 20:11:38 <koen> that has a shitload of useless stuff compiled in
Jul 20 20:12:11 <Jon_Bradbury> ...but no support for my Lucent card!
Jul 20 20:12:32 <koen> right
Jul 20 20:12:54 <koen> You also want to talk to Philippe and florian on #oe
Jul 20 20:13:03 <koen> they were in the original porting project
Jul 20 20:13:22 * koen needs to find the weirdo 15V charger that went missing
Jul 20 20:13:59 <Jon_Bradbury> OK, here's what I propose. Take a zImage (the most recent one), stick a Boost header in the front of it (properly populated) and rename the file nbkproos.img. Then replace the old one with this one and boot. Yes?
Jul 20 20:14:12 <Jon_Bradbury> ken, I have one of those chargers
Jul 20 20:14:30 <Jon_Bradbury> well two actually. one's for the netbook, the other's for the pro
Jul 20 20:14:52 <Jon_Bradbury> it's 15v at 1.25A in case you need to buy a "general purpose" charger.
Jul 20 20:15:16 <koen> I know in what room it is, but not in which box
Jul 20 20:15:34 <Jon_Bradbury> Ha ha I know the feeling!
Jul 20 20:16:13 <koen> I suspect it's near the nbp mainboard
Jul 20 20:16:28 <Jon_Bradbury> By the way (off topic) I think your photos are very good!
Jul 20 20:16:34 <koen> thanks
Jul 20 20:16:57 <Jon_Bradbury> "I suspect it's near the nbp mainboard"... you have one of these just lying around?
Jul 20 20:17:04 <koen> yes
Jul 20 20:17:20 <koen> wolfsonmicro is lending me a nbp unit + nbp mainboard
Jul 20 20:17:29 <koen> the complete unit has 256MB of ram :)
Jul 20 20:17:44 <Jon_Bradbury> Rats. Is a normal nbp upgradeable?
Jul 20 20:18:17 <koen> not that I know off
Jul 20 20:18:33 <Jon_Bradbury> So that is in fact one of the fabled Netbook LX prototypes.
Jul 20 20:18:37 <koen> I ended up running openzaurus in a chroot on a microdrive
Jul 20 20:19:14 <Jon_Bradbury> That is what I want. I thought I could alter the initrd to pivot_root onto the microdrive or CF card
Jul 20 20:19:30 <koen> the initrd is basically read-only
Jul 20 20:19:51 <koen> the stuff in anonymous flashed kernel + initrd
Jul 20 20:20:19 <koen> the initrd is pretty broken
Jul 20 20:20:22 <Jon_Bradbury> Yes, you can't alter it once it's on the nbp
Jul 20 20:20:39 <Jon_Bradbury> Well, I have the thing booting, and gpe works.
Jul 20 20:21:41 <koen> I installed e-wm because that's using a saner redraw algo for the background
Jul 20 20:21:57 <Jon_Bradbury> "Philippe and florian on #oe" - are these their nicknames?
Jul 20 20:22:07 <koen> yes
Jul 20 20:22:11 <koen> and real names as well :)
Jul 20 20:22:13 <wirelessdreamer> is there a reccomended way to natively test new packages without touching the root fs on a device
Jul 20 20:23:19 <Jon_Bradbury> koen : Right. I will ask in there too. Guess what my real name is :)  .  e-wm (elightenment?) is better than gpe if you have a propoer keyboard IMHO
Jul 20 20:24:00 <koen> matchbox-wm is great for devices with a smallscreen (or high dpi)
Jul 20 20:24:10 <koen> but for the npb a non-fullscreen wm is better
Jul 20 20:25:11 <Jon_Bradbury> You mean something that opens wall the windows in full screen? You're right there! I mean, we have 600x800 to play with!
Jul 20 20:48:57 <go1dfish> how is angstrom on the clamshell zaurii?
Jul 20 20:49:15 <go1dfish> as far as stability/everyday use
Jul 20 20:50:58 <go1dfish> I've got my tosa running gpe at the moment, but I think I may switch it over to e17 as well
Jul 20 20:51:26 <go1dfish> one of these days I'll try to make my collie useful again, probably with gpe
Jul 20 21:02:36 <jpmatrix> hi!
Jul 20 21:02:46 <Jon_Bradbury> hi
Jul 20 21:05:00 <jpmatrix> someone succeed to mount a windows share with angstrom ?
Jul 20 21:43:13 <wirelessdreamer> i use angstrom-e17 on my c3000, i find it more useful the pdaxrom because it has a good kernel with working power management
Jul 20 22:03:13 <wirelessdreamer> i created a bb file for a library i want to link against, the lib built fine, but what do i have to add to its file so the include files are installed correctly into OE/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include
Jul 20 22:17:30 <CoreDump|home> hi
Jul 20 22:25:00 <jpmatrix> yup
Jul 20 23:05:11 <jpmatrix> ciao
Jul 20 23:59:58 <Wick3d> Hey, need a bit of help, no idea how to do this, whenever I take my flash card out, and put it back in, it has a hard time fiuring out that it is there
Jul 21 00:00:06 <Wick3d> Any way to force it to recheck or something?
Jul 21 00:01:43 <nodens> I suppose pccardctl insert could help
Jul 21 00:02:40 <Wick3d> Probably
Jul 21 00:13:06 * xota saluda!
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