**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 05 02:59:56 2007
Aug 05 13:06:51 <mimecar> hi guys
Aug 05 14:17:15 <hans0lo> After trying about 6 different distros for Zaurus, I've setteled on Angstrom for my C1000. There is only one issue I am having, with the cpuspeed app - It gives an error: Error: Could not open file for writing: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
Aug 05 14:17:32 <hans0lo> Am I missing a kernel module for my processor or something?
Aug 05 14:17:44 <mimecar> what's the version you're using?
Aug 05 14:18:22 <hans0lo> Version of Angstrom, or of cpuspeed?
Aug 05 14:18:30 <mimecar> version of angstrom
Aug 05 14:18:42 <mimecar> there're many builds and there's not a stable version yet
Aug 05 14:19:27 <hans0lo> 20070710 is the date on the rom image
Aug 05 14:19:48 <mimecar> have you update the system ?
Aug 05 14:20:08 <hans0lo> with ipkg upgrade? not yet
Aug 05 14:20:35 <mimecar> it can fix the bug
Aug 05 14:20:45 <hans0lo> running it now, thanks :)
Aug 05 14:21:32 <mimecar> hans0lo: do you like starwars ;) ?
Aug 05 14:22:05 <hans0lo> mimecar: yeah, but it's "Hans 0lo" not "Han S0lo" :)
Aug 05 14:23:03 <mimecar> it's similar
Aug 05 14:23:51 <hans0lo> Just "hans" was already taken on freenode
Aug 05 14:26:11 <hans0lo> Angstrom reminds me alot of Debian (I assume it's a derivitave?)
Aug 05 14:26:20 <mimecar> yes
Aug 05 14:27:43 <hans0lo> Is there a feed that would have some more games, perhaps?
Aug 05 14:29:29 <vanguard> Hi all. I saw there is a new image available for akita. But there is no kernel for this image. The latest kernel does not run with the new image. Will you build a new one ?
Aug 05 14:29:55 <mimecar> vanguard: what's the date of the image?
Aug 05 14:30:55 <vanguard> Very new, wait a moment....
Aug 05 14:31:20 <vanguard> 20070803
Aug 05 14:31:27 <vanguard> 4th of August.
Aug 05 14:31:48 <mimecar> why don't you install a previous version and then, upgrade the system ?
Aug 05 14:32:12 <vanguard> :) I had had the previous version before, but wanted to test the latest.
Aug 05 14:32:28 <vanguard> The version before has still some bugs.
Aug 05 14:32:39 <mimecar> if you upgrade, you will have the same
Aug 05 14:33:04 <vanguard> Maybe, may not be. I hope, the bugs are fixed.
Aug 05 14:34:24 <vanguard> An upgrade would not work, as the kernel seem to have to renewed, too. 
Aug 05 14:34:52 <vanguard> Otherwise the latest image would work with the older kernel, wouldn't it ?
Aug 05 14:34:54 <mimecar> why don't you build the kernel yourself?
Aug 05 14:35:43 <vanguard> I am not experienced with the build-environment and it is to complicated for me to install and configure all the stuff.
Aug 05 14:35:54 <mimecar> not really
Aug 05 14:38:44 <hans0lo> mimecar: ok, my upgrade finished, and I am still getting the same error with cpuspeed
Aug 05 14:38:54 <hans0lo> (note: rebooted also)
Aug 05 14:39:15 <mimecar> then, write a bug report on bugtracker
Aug 05 14:39:26 <hans0lo> will do
Aug 05 15:18:21 <Darth_Wader> arrgh
Aug 05 15:18:29 <Darth_Wader> mtn: error: sqlite error: SQL logic error or missing database        
Aug 05 15:18:30 <Darth_Wader> > mtn pull                                                                                                       
Aug 05 15:18:32 <Darth_Wader> mtn: doing anonymous pull; use -kKEYNAME if you need authentication                                                                                                  
Aug 05 15:18:38 <Darth_Wader> anyone had such issues?
Aug 05 15:18:47 <mimecar> Darth_Wader: with the "pull" option of monotone ?
Aug 05 15:18:52 <Darth_Wader> yup
Aug 05 15:19:20 <mimecar> mtn --db=OE.mtn pull ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl
Aug 05 15:19:32 <mimecar> i have problems this afternoon, it doesn't update 
Aug 05 15:20:19 <Darth_Wader> hm, you suggest re-pull from scratch?
Aug 05 15:34:56 <Darth_Wader> seems like repull helped
Aug 05 15:52:12 <vanguard> I have to take back my sentneces from just ago. There is no new image, there is a new kernel for akita available.
Aug 05 15:52:35 <vanguard> It looks like an image, but it is none.
Aug 05 15:53:03 <vanguard> I have unpacked it manually and inside is only initrd.bin, zimage.bin and updater.sh.
Aug 05 15:53:46 <vanguard> Maybe it should be renamed to zimage*****.tgz
Aug 05 15:54:32 <mimecar> it can be a wrong inmage
Aug 05 15:55:30 <vanguard> Yes, muight be, I also think, it is an 2.4.*** kernel, and no 2.6.2*
Aug 05 15:55:59 <vanguard> I think, someone with access to the feed should test it !
Aug 05 15:57:22 <vanguard> It would also be nice (this is a wish !) , if the packages named *-dev.ipk would be in an own directory.
Aug 05 15:59:00 <vanguard> So they will not interfere with the binaries. In fact, this is not a real problem, but in my special case, where I put the packages on an sd-card to install (I have vo wlan-card at the moment available) it would spent less space.
Aug 05 16:00:00 <vanguard> Please remark: It is just a wish !
Aug 05 16:00:24 <mimecar> :)
Aug 05 16:01:10 <vanguard> Apropos wish: There is another wish: wireshark does not have an icon automatically installed. Is it a bug or a feature ?
Aug 05 16:01:26 <mimecar> what's that app?
Aug 05 16:01:51 <vanguard> wireshark
Aug 05 16:02:33 <vanguard> You do not know wireshark ? formerly ethereal.
Aug 05 16:13:48 <koen> vanguard: that's a bug (wireshark)
Aug 05 16:14:10 <mimecar> koen, is there problems with monotone and ewi ?
Aug 05 16:14:25 <vanguard> O.k. :) Di you know, if it is reported by now ?
Aug 05 16:14:25 <mimecar> i can't download revisions for angstrom 
Aug 05 16:14:44 <koen> mimecar: there isn't a problem with it
Aug 05 16:15:00 <mimecar> I can't pull monotone database
Aug 05 16:15:01 <koen> mimecar: why don't you use the main repository (monotone.openembedded.org) ?
Aug 05 16:15:13 <mimecar> i didn't knowed it
Aug 05 16:18:06 <mimecar> it works, thanks koen
Aug 05 19:45:04 <syamajala> hi
Aug 05 20:53:05 <syamajala> can anyone run ipkg update?
Aug 05 20:53:27 <syamajala> i keep getting a 404 error at python
Aug 05 21:39:24 <flowolf> hi all
Aug 05 21:40:20 <flowolf> could someone tell me if angstrom is usable on the Collie?
Aug 05 21:54:56 <XorA|gone> flowolf: it is not
Aug 05 21:55:23 <flowolf> XorA|gone: thank you
Aug 05 21:56:48 <flowolf> I should sell this thing
Aug 05 21:58:00 <XorA|gone> flowolf: depends what you wish to use it for
Aug 05 21:58:40 <flowolf> I'd like to use it as an ebook reader
Aug 05 21:59:32 <XorA|gone> flowolf: then the OZ distro, or the sharp based cacko/shepard will work
Aug 05 22:00:05 <flowolf> I'd like to use the SD and a 2.6 kernel
Aug 05 22:00:51 <joshin> flowolf: http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~tkunze/zaurus/patches/
Aug 05 22:01:00 <joshin> There are the patches for SD on collie
Aug 05 22:01:12 <flowolf> (there is a wifi driver I'd like to try)
Aug 05 22:02:53 <XorA|gone> Angstrom on collie is currently experts only
Aug 05 22:03:02 <XorA|gone> and the SD driver isnt 100% working yet
Aug 05 22:03:23 <flowolf> ouff
Aug 05 22:04:05 <XorA|gone> of course if you are a kernel hacker jump right in
Aug 05 22:04:49 <flowolf> I don't really have the time for this
Aug 05 22:08:38 <joshin> If not you then who?
Aug 05 22:09:56 <flowolf> maybe you
Aug 05 22:09:58 <flowolf> or XorA|gone 
Aug 05 22:09:59 <flowolf> :)
Aug 05 22:11:34 * XorA|gone owns a collie, but spends too much time on s3c24xx based devices
Aug 05 22:13:52 <joshin> flowolf: Sorry man, I do have a Collie but am putting my effort into my Nokia 770 as my Collie's backlight is going bad.  
Aug 05 22:14:07 <flowolf> :)
Aug 05 22:16:49 <XorA|gone> collie is the poor dog in the recue center, too old for the young couples walking past
Aug 05 22:57:06 <nil> hihi
Aug 05 22:57:18 <nil> poor collie....
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