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Aug 25 09:33:20 * xota saluda!
Aug 25 10:51:57 <`pwgen`> hi all
Aug 25 13:07:39 <dnix> hi all
Aug 25 13:59:21 <mimecar> hi
Aug 25 16:24:32 * xota saluda!
Aug 25 21:19:18 <mimecar> hi vero
Aug 25 21:19:24 <mimecar> hi Vorondil
Aug 25 21:20:02 <Vorondil> Word up, mimecar.
Aug 25 21:26:06 <mimecar> hi dcordes
Aug 25 21:26:10 <dcordes> hey mimecar 
Aug 25 21:26:12 <mimecar> and hrw ;)
Aug 25 21:26:13 <dcordes> how you doing?
Aug 25 21:26:24 <hrw> good
Aug 25 21:26:29 <mimecar> losing time
Aug 25 21:26:44 <mimecar> losting time
Aug 25 21:26:49 <dcordes> hm?
Aug 25 21:26:59 <dcordes> mimecar: you should try mokoui 2 on your akita
Aug 25 21:27:09 <mimecar> from openmoko project?
Aug 25 21:27:14 <dcordes> yes
Aug 25 21:27:17 <dcordes> it is in the repos
Aug 25 21:27:23 <mimecar> i know
Aug 25 21:27:25 <dcordes> just install task-openmoko-ui
Aug 25 21:27:40 <mimecar> look and feel of openmoko it's good
Aug 25 21:27:41 <dcordes> and some moko sesion package and you're done
Aug 25 21:27:47 <dcordes> yes very nice
Aug 25 21:27:54 <dcordes> should give it a try
Aug 25 21:28:04 <dcordes> it makes your z like new :)
Aug 25 21:28:10 <mimecar> I must finish some task before
Aug 25 21:28:19 <dcordes> heh icon creation?
Aug 25 21:28:27 <mimecar> such as build my **** angstrom image
Aug 25 21:28:34 <mimecar> that's another task 
Aug 25 21:28:56 <mimecar> did you see subject on innerzaurus web ?
Aug 25 21:29:09 <dcordes> I haven't been there long time, sorry
Aug 25 21:29:11 <dcordes> let me check1
Aug 25 21:29:12 <mimecar> I don't remember if you were on the channel when i comment
Aug 25 21:29:17 <mimecar> wait
Aug 25 21:29:23 <dcordes> I don't think so
Aug 25 21:29:56 <mimecar> http://www.innerzaurus.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=229&Itemid=185
Aug 25 21:30:03 <mimecar> there's a small english brief at the end
Aug 25 21:30:14 <dcordes> I also know a bit spanish
Aug 25 21:30:23 <mimecar> my english is not so bad ;)
Aug 25 21:30:50 <dcordes> I will try your icons later
Aug 25 21:30:56 <dcordes> thing is - I don't have the gpe desktop anymore
Aug 25 21:31:14 <dcordes> but there is an overview of all applictaions in the moko ui now
Aug 25 21:31:20 <dcordes> without categories
Aug 25 21:31:25 <dcordes> just all gpe apps
Aug 25 21:31:35 <mimecar> yes, i saw some screenshots
Aug 25 21:31:51 <dcordes> yea you have that basic application called today from where you do everything
Aug 25 21:31:59 <dcordes> it also has a nice taskmanager integrated
Aug 25 21:32:00 <mimecar> I think you can change look and feel with a gtk theme
Aug 25 21:32:25 <dcordes> yep I still can set it with the old look and feel application from gpe
Aug 25 21:32:45 <dcordes> but you have to set the mokoui window content and icons otherwise it looks crappy!
Aug 25 21:33:41 <mimecar> first, finish the icon theme script, after, another things
Aug 25 21:35:01 <mimecar> dcordes: matchbox can be customizable
Aug 25 21:35:10 <mimecar> editing some files
Aug 25 21:35:31 <hrw> openmoko-today from om-2007.2 is nice indeed
Aug 25 21:35:53 <mimecar> I don't say, openmoko is not a good systeam
Aug 25 21:36:05 <mimecar> it looks usable and ready for final users
Aug 25 21:37:36 <mimecar> hrw: do that app share code with gpe-today or it's a independent code?
Aug 25 21:37:58 <hrw> mimecar: openmoko apps does not use anything from gpe
Aug 25 21:38:04 <mimecar> ok
Aug 25 21:38:51 <hrw> mimecar: most of core apps are written by OpenedHand and we do not use gpe at all
Aug 25 21:39:18 <mimecar> openedhand is the developer of dates and tasks ?
Aug 25 21:40:46 <hrw> dates, tasks, contacts, today
Aug 25 21:41:09 <hrw> and matchbox
Aug 25 21:41:15 <mimecar> I have installed some apps of that
Aug 25 21:41:33 <mimecar> is today app on the web?
Aug 25 21:42:49 <hrw> screenshots? source? package for angstrom?
Aug 25 21:42:57 <mimecar> package
Aug 25 21:43:09 <hrw> no idea
Aug 25 21:43:22 <mimecar> http://pimlico-project.org/ only has dates, tasks, contacts and sync
Aug 25 21:43:27 <dcordes> mimecar: as I said: install task-openmoko-ui
Aug 25 21:43:31 <dcordes> to get everything set
Aug 25 21:43:43 <mimecar> dcordes: I crashed my angstrom some days ago
Aug 25 21:44:29 <mimecar> I can't reinstall angstrom if something gets wrong
Aug 25 21:44:38 <mimecar> such as not disk space
Aug 25 21:44:56 <mimecar> hrw: do you know the folder where data of dates, tasks... are stored?
Aug 25 21:45:16 <hrw> feed? probably armv4t
Aug 25 21:45:23 <hrw> use feed-browser
Aug 25 21:45:29 <mimecar> no
Aug 25 21:45:52 <mimecar> for example, if I use dates, what's the file name of data?
Aug 25 21:46:07 <mimecar> i would like use dates on my pc and copy dataf ile to my zaurus
Aug 25 21:47:40 <hrw> .evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics iirc
Aug 25 21:47:51 <mimecar> ok, thanks
Aug 25 21:53:22 <mimecar> can altboot work with angstrom?
Aug 25 21:54:53 <hrw> should
Aug 25 21:55:10 <mimecar> for zaurus sl5500 is a must
Aug 25 21:55:18 <hrw> not a must
Aug 25 21:55:27 <mimecar> for small free space
Aug 25 21:55:28 <hrw> with 2.6 you can boot directly from sd/cf
Aug 25 21:55:41 <mimecar> and launch a loopfile?
Aug 25 21:56:04 <hrw> I do not understand why people use loopfiles
Aug 25 21:56:14 <hrw> I used rootfs directly on sd/cf
Aug 25 21:56:31 <mimecar> is easier for me backup one file than a system
Aug 25 21:56:59 <mimecar> with the system on the sd, how can i tell the kernel he must load the system on sd?
Aug 25 21:58:52 <hrw> root=/dev/mmcblk0p1
Aug 25 21:59:08 <mimecar> can i change kernel parameters at startup?
Aug 25 22:00:27 <hrw> no
Aug 25 22:00:35 <hrw> on Z it is hardcoded in kernel
Aug 25 22:01:12 <mimecar> then, I must compile a kernel with that feature?
Aug 25 22:03:16 <mimecar> time to go out
Aug 25 22:03:28 <mimecar> night all
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