**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 28 02:59:56 2007 Aug 28 10:34:29 we carry neither lynx nor w3m in our feed? I have to use a tty with a large-ish font to read ebooks comfortably, and in that tty links help overruns the available space Aug 28 10:35:37 tty uses a 16-pixel or -point font, available space is 61 columns by 21 lines Aug 28 10:36:55 eekee: links and links-x11 are there Aug 28 10:37:11 eekee: which are links2 varients Aug 28 10:37:32 XorA: let me try links-x11 again Aug 28 10:40:45 s/-x11// Aug 28 10:46:14 hmm, /unstable/feed/armv5te/base contains jpeg-dev and jpeg-doc but not jpeg *searches* Aug 28 10:46:29 libjpeg6? Aug 28 10:47:05 * eekee tries Aug 28 10:49:37 I should get this thing networked & use the feeds the way they are meant to be used. I got the desktop doing ip masqueuading the other day, but haven't got round to hooking the Z up, & haven't got time today. Am going away this afternoon, want to read my ebooks on holiday ^^' Aug 28 10:53:20 libjpeg62 is no good Aug 28 10:55:49 you're no good Aug 28 10:56:46 * eekee consigns daurnimator to the dungeons for insulting his personage :p Aug 28 10:56:49 can't find anything to satisfy links jpeg dependency then. Have to leave it now, I guess. Aug 28 10:56:59 eekee: what program do you use for reading ebooks?, or do you convert them to html? Aug 28 10:57:07 eekee: does the non x11 links still need jpeg Aug 28 10:57:14 eekee: I would have thought not Aug 28 10:58:04 tobb: html ebooks from gutenberg.org. for plain text I use a pipe with fmt & tr & ending in less Aug 28 10:59:10 I suppose I could get plucker maybe. dunno if I have time to get all my ebooks again now. will pack & stuff & check later Aug 28 11:00:36 eekee: fmt, didn't know about that one, thanks Aug 28 11:01:24 yw! Aug 28 11:01:26 anyway, just annoyed with links for having a trace of the gui "give me the screen space I fancy or I refuse to work properly" system Aug 28 11:14:43 * eekee takes a deep breath... :d okay, links won't install. there is no */bin/links, ipkg files links tells me it's not installed, ipkg remove links tells me it's not installed. Aug 28 11:15:12 ipkg install links-x11* failes because it conflicts with links Aug 28 11:19:40 I wanted to port a distro where I know the package sytem very well, but I kinda phailed at that Aug 28 11:23:25 where does ipkg keep it's data? I'll have a tinker with it while I'm away Aug 28 11:27:19 ahuh! got it back Aug 28 11:27:34 <_sodium> /usr/lib/ipkg Aug 28 11:27:58 ty _sodium Aug 28 11:28:44 <_sodium> are you doing this all in the root partition or are you tinkering on a card, ramdisk, home partition, etc? Aug 28 11:28:56 root Aug 28 11:29:41 <_sodium> unless you plan to reflash your device its wise to play around outside of root Aug 28 11:29:46 <_sodium> and link to root with ipkg-link Aug 28 11:32:10 already reflashed, I can't read Japanese :o) I got it to tinker with, & I can always 'flash' again if I screw up too badly. Aug 28 11:32:22 <_sodium> what is it anyways? Aug 28 11:32:26 spitz Aug 28 11:32:56 <_sodium> ah ok - as long as you know there are other places to install ipks Aug 28 11:33:02 yeah Aug 28 12:30:17 <`pwgen`> hi all Aug 28 12:34:26 <`pwgen`> someone here with knowledge about the oe_install target ? Aug 28 12:54:47 * xota saluda! Aug 28 13:35:43 re Aug 28 14:36:14 hi rio Aug 28 14:36:19 hi xkill Aug 28 14:42:16 :) Aug 28 14:46:13 hi dcordes Aug 28 15:06:20 <`pwgen`> someone here with knowledge about the oe_install target ? Aug 28 15:13:24 do_install() task you mean? Aug 28 15:14:44 <`pwgen`> yupp Aug 28 15:15:05 <`pwgen`> i tried building an iscsi-initator bb file. Aug 28 15:15:41 <`pwgen`> it compiles fine , but when i try to do manage the package i got problems. Aug 28 15:47:04 is there some tool to reliably measure a network-device's traffic? I want to have something to see how much traffic i've got left in my monthly gprs-plan Aug 28 15:47:16 there are Aug 28 15:47:26 iftop is nice Aug 28 15:48:02 hrw: does it store data? So nothing gets lost upon e.g. a reboot? Aug 28 15:50:11 no - its interactive tool Aug 28 15:50:32 <`pwgen`> ipcad-3.7.3 can collect information about long time Aug 28 15:54:44 <`pwgen`> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipcad Aug 28 15:55:55 i'm having a look.. seems to be platform independant.. nice Aug 28 15:57:18 hmhm.. a gui should be easy to code. Aug 28 15:58:17 <`pwgen`> it use rsh for information gatering .. i use it on my router ... Aug 28 16:00:23 <`pwgen`> back to my question.: how can i control the creating of ipkg's ( my binarys are always in the debug package ) Aug 28 16:02:00 `pwgen`: PACKAGES/FILES vars Aug 28 16:02:55 `pwgen`: alternatively, ipcad can dump the traffic-info into a text-file. Thats nice, imho. Aug 28 16:03:33 `pwgen`: does it withstand reboots? The traffic counter may not start at zero then. That would make the whole idea pointless.. ;) Aug 28 16:05:00 <`pwgen`> riot: it stores tempory in memory ( size configurable ) . on reboot ( clean shutdown !!! ) it stores it to files Aug 28 16:05:43 hmm. sounds reasonable.. Worst case would be one session. As my avg. sessions don't run for longer than some hours, that wouldn't be bad. Aug 28 16:06:16 maybe it can be tweaked, to write the information on regular intervals. Aug 28 16:07:54 <`pwgen`> maybe tcpdump can also do what you want it has an accounting part build in Aug 28 16:08:35 <`pwgen`> or simple iptable rules with frequently reading the counter. Aug 28 16:10:15 yeah, that would be a very simple solution. I'll investigate that and try out some variants. Aug 28 16:10:18 <`pwgen`> ipac is stuck to old iptables and the the develper has stopped working on it Aug 28 18:31:44 hi Aug 28 19:26:11 hi~ i am using C750, and i cannot get the latest angstrom x11 image start. it seems root filesystem have been used all~ Aug 28 19:26:30 can i resize the root partition? Aug 28 19:26:35 is the system bigger than your memory? Aug 28 19:26:39 is it safe? Aug 28 19:27:03 no idea, I haven't test thar image Aug 28 19:27:06 yes, larger Aug 28 19:27:09 I haven't a c750 Aug 28 19:28:12 you can write a bug report Aug 28 19:28:13 it seems pdaXrom need to resize root partition, but angstrom asks for a standard partition~ Aug 28 19:28:17 and some developper will check it Aug 28 19:28:49 can i use pdaXrom to enlarge the root partition and install the angstrom rom? Aug 28 19:29:14 it's already a bug reported there~ Aug 28 19:30:06 have your root partition be changed or it has the original size? Aug 28 19:39:47 it's the original size yet~ Aug 28 19:40:10 then, there's a error on configuration files for angstrom Aug 28 19:40:10 i am downloading the pdaXrom rom, and just trying to resize it~ Aug 28 19:40:22 what's the free space you have? Aug 28 19:41:04 i've no idea now~ i installed the console rom right now ~ Aug 28 19:41:26 ok Aug 28 19:41:27 and i tried to install x11 from console, it took even more space Aug 28 19:41:57 well, i just want to sure if it's safe to resize the partition~ Aug 28 19:42:20 on my c1000 I haven't resize partitions Aug 28 19:42:33 if i fail, can i just resize it back safely? Aug 28 19:43:00 well, c1000 has lager rom, and even HD~ Aug 28 19:43:04 if you can boot with another rom, teorically yes Aug 28 19:43:11 128 MB, no hard disk Aug 28 19:43:17 ok~ Aug 28 19:50:34 pH5: do you upgrade the angstrom feeds with moko stuff? Aug 28 19:53:50 LeiraHu1: there's some X11 image in 20070709 Aug 28 19:54:03 for c7x0 Aug 28 22:08:05 * xota saluda! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 29 02:59:56 2007